On Fri, 2022-07-08 at 12:40 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
> Discussion of Microsoft Store policies is off-topic for this list. The
> Water Cooler category[1] on Fedora Discussion would be a good place to
> have this conversation.
Sorry, I sent my last reply before seeing this one.
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On Fri, 2022-07-08 at 17:59 +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> On 08/07/2022 17:48, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > That's not what that story says. It says you can't charge for them.
> >
> > Additionally, Microsoft says[1] the intent is not to stop F/OSS
> > developers from charging for their
Discussion of Microsoft Store policies is off-topic for this list. The
Water Cooler category[1] on Fedora Discussion would be a good place to
have this conversation.
[1] https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/c/fun/8
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Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> For example, last week they decided to kill all OSS applications from
> the Microsoft Store:
>
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/vtxr9r/software_freedom_conservancy_heads_up_microsoft/
Actually, what they did there actually makes sense to me. The rule
On 08/07/2022 17:48, Adam Williamson wrote:
That's not what that story says. It says you can't charge for them.
Additionally, Microsoft says[1] the intent is not to stop F/OSS
developers from charging for their own software, but to stop others
passing off for a profit. I agree that the current
On Fri, 2022-07-08 at 17:20 +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> On 08/07/2022 16:14, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > And Microsoft is not the 1990s Microsoft. They know that
> > they need to do this differently and I know there are people (actual, real,
> > humans!) who care about open source and
On 08/07/2022 16:14, Matthew Miller wrote:
And Microsoft is not the 1990s Microsoft. They know that
they need to do this differently and I know there are people (actual, real,
humans!) who care about open source and making Linux better for everyone.
And now that includes Lennart.
No. Microsoft
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
But upstream is now under a hostile corporation's control? Can we trust the
most privileged userspace program when it is effectively controlled by a
hostile corporation?
Yes we can, by reading and evaluating the code like we always do. If it
On Fri, Jul 08, 2022 at 04:08:55PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Peter Robinson wrote:
> > Why? There's other maintainers, and he's not been the lead maintainer
> > in Fedora for some time.
>
> But upstream is now under a hostile corporation's control? Can we trust the
> most privileged
Neal Gompa wrote:
> Microsoft has people working on a number of core Linux projects ever
> since they started making their own Linux distribution.
It is fun how the old
https://web.archive.org/web/20220312030903/http://www.mslinux.org/
joke has suddenly become reality.
I hope we are not getting
On Fri, Jul 08, 2022 at 04:08:55PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> But upstream is now under a hostile corporation's control? Can we trust the
> most privileged userspace program when it is effectively controlled by a
> hostile corporation?
Let's please not do this. Upstream is an LGPL
On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 10:09 AM Kevin Kofler via devel
wrote:
>
> Peter Robinson wrote:
> > Why? There's other maintainers, and he's not been the lead maintainer
> > in Fedora for some time.
>
> But upstream is now under a hostile corporation's control? Can we trust the
> most privileged
Peter Robinson wrote:
> Why? There's other maintainers, and he's not been the lead maintainer
> in Fedora for some time.
But upstream is now under a hostile corporation's control? Can we trust the
most privileged userspace program when it is effectively controlled by a
hostile corporation?
On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 9:34 AM Chris Adams wrote:
>
> Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler said:
> > Luna Jernberg wrote:
> > > https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=Systemd-Creator-Microsoft
> > > https://linuxactionnews.com/248
> >
> > Time to remove systemd from the distribution?
>
>
Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler said:
> Luna Jernberg wrote:
> > https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=Systemd-Creator-Microsoft
> > https://linuxactionnews.com/248
>
> Time to remove systemd from the distribution?
What part of Free and Open says "judge people based on their
On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:05 PM Kevin Kofler via devel
wrote:
>
> Luna Jernberg wrote:
> > https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=Systemd-Creator-Microsoft
> > https://linuxactionnews.com/248
>
> Time to remove systemd from the distribution?
Why? There's other maintainers, and he's not
Luna Jernberg wrote:
> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=Systemd-Creator-Microsoft
> https://linuxactionnews.com/248
Time to remove systemd from the distribution?
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On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 10:08 AM Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> On Sa, 02.07.22 00:15, Marius Schwarz (fedora...@cloud-foo.de) wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have some bug reports for PA opening
Am 03.07.22 um 19:33 schrieb Kevin Fenzi:
On Sun, Jul 03, 2022 at 11:52:26AM +0200, Marius Schwarz wrote:
Am 03.07.22 um 04:02 schrieb Neal Gompa:
On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 8:52 PM Kevin Kofler via devel
wrote:
Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
The e-mail address reaches nowhere
or actually, does
On Mon, 2022-07-04 at 10:07 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Sa, 02.07.22 00:15, Marius Schwarz (fedora...@cloud-foo.de) wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have some bug reports for PA opening BZ and only one ever got a response.
> >
> > Is it possible that this is the cause:
> >
> > You can't
On Monday, 04 July 2022 at 10:07, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Sa, 02.07.22 00:15, Marius Schwarz (fedora...@cloud-foo.de) wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have some bug reports for PA opening BZ and only one ever got a response.
> >
> > Is it possible that this is the cause:
> >
> > You can't ask
On Sa, 02.07.22 00:15, Marius Schwarz (fedora...@cloud-foo.de) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have some bug reports for PA opening BZ and only one ever got a response.
>
> Is it possible that this is the cause:
>
> You can't ask /Lennart Poettering / because that
> account is disabled.
>
> I tried a needinfo
On Sun, Jul 03, 2022 at 11:52:26AM +0200, Marius Schwarz wrote:
> Am 03.07.22 um 04:02 schrieb Neal Gompa:
> > On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 8:52 PM Kevin Kofler via devel
> > wrote:
> > > Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> > > > The e-mail address reaches nowhere
> > > or actually, does it still work?
On Sat, Jul 02, 2022 at 05:31:13PM -0500, Maxwell G via devel wrote:
> On Saturday, July 2, 2022 3:11:44 PM CDT Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 02, 2022 at 11:54:17AM -0500, Maxwell G via devel wrote:
> > > On Saturday, July 2, 2022 10:01:18 AM CDT Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > > > This is an
Am 03.07.22 um 04:02 schrieb Neal Gompa:
On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 8:52 PM Kevin Kofler via devel
wrote:
Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
The e-mail address reaches nowhere
or actually, does it still work? Have you tried it? I assume that the fact
that the Bugzilla account was disabled means he
On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 8:52 PM Kevin Kofler via devel
wrote:
>
> Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> > The e-mail address reaches nowhere
>
> or actually, does it still work? Have you tried it? I assume that the fact
> that the Bugzilla account was disabled means he has left Red Hat and hence
> the
Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> The e-mail address reaches nowhere
or actually, does it still work? Have you tried it? I assume that the fact
that the Bugzilla account was disabled means he has left Red Hat and hence
the @redhat.com e-mail address has also become invalid, but I might be
Marius Schwarz wrote:
> Can we change the defaults for PA inside bugzilla to Wim and transfer
> the open tickets to him?
Just invoke the fast-track nonresponsive maintainer policy. The e-mail
address reaches nowhere and Lennart has not requested reassigning the
packages to a personal account,
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 3:11:44 PM CDT Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 02, 2022 at 11:54:17AM -0500, Maxwell G via devel wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 2, 2022 10:01:18 AM CDT Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > > This is an extremely common problem in Fedora: the de facto maintainer
> > > is not the
On Sat, Jul 02, 2022 at 11:54:17AM -0500, Maxwell G via devel wrote:
> On Saturday, July 2, 2022 10:01:18 AM CDT Michael Catanzaro wrote:
>
> > This is an extremely common problem in Fedora: the de facto maintainer
> > is not the main admin, and so the bugs are assigned to the wrong
> > person.
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 10:01:18 AM CDT Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> This is an extremely common problem in Fedora: the de facto maintainer
> is not the main admin, and so the bugs are assigned to the wrong
> person. Ideally we would automatically orphan a package if the main
> admin does not
On Sat, Jul 2 2022 at 12:35:44 PM +0200, Marius Schwarz
wrote:
Can we change the defaults for PA inside bugzilla to Wim and transfer
the open tickets to him?
it does not make sense to have Leonard as default assignee if the
accoutn is disabled.
This is an extremely common problem in Fedora:
On 02/07/2022 11:35, Marius Schwarz wrote:
Am 02.07.22 um 10:37 schrieb Adam Williamson:
Probably not, no. Lennart hasn't maintained PA upstream or downstream
for a long time. The current downstream maintainer is Wim Taymans (I
think).
Can we change the defaults for PA inside bugzilla to
Hi,
Am 02.07.22 um 10:37 schrieb Adam Williamson:
Probably not, no. Lennart hasn't maintained PA upstream or downstream
for a long time. The current downstream maintainer is Wim Taymans (I
think).
Can we change the defaults for PA inside bugzilla to Wim and transfer
the open tickets to
On Sat, 2022-07-02 at 00:15 +0200, Marius Schwarz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have some bug reports for PA opening BZ and only one ever got a response.
>
> Is it possible that this is the cause:
>
> You can't ask /Lennart Poettering / because that
> account is disabled.
>
> I tried a needinfo request
On Sat, 2022-07-02 at 00:15 +0200, Marius Schwarz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have some bug reports for PA opening BZ and only one ever got a
> response.
>
> Is it possible that this is the cause:
>
> You can't ask Lennart Poettering because that
> account is disabled.
>
> I tried a needinfo request
Hi,
I have some bug reports for PA opening BZ and only one ever got a response.
Is it possible that this is the cause:
You can't ask /Lennart Poettering / because that
account is disabled.
I tried a needinfo request after a month long silence.
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