Re: Marvell 88W8388 USB Development Dongles

2009-12-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 5:29 PM, vbx dev vbx...@gmail.com wrote: OLPC XO-1 uses the Marvell 88W8388 USB wireless adapter. I want to contribute to the development of the libertas/libertas-tf driver for this wireless adapter. Could I buy a few 88W8388 USB development dongles from OLPC to get

Re: [Sugar-devel] Ticket 8104

2009-12-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Cecilia Abalde caba...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy wrote: I download the patch, then run rpm-ivh Name patch but there is a problem with the files: ... Any ideas ??? Yes - you are trying to upgrade the RPM, instead of installing a previously not installed package, so do

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 9:56 PM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote:             I would argue that an operating system that doesn't natively host its development tools is not appropriate for OLPC's target audience. Does the XO-1 host its own development tools?  I don't think anyone has ever

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-28 Thread NoiseEHC
Actually, no. The .class - .dex compiler consumes an enormous amount of memory, so it is out of the question at least for now. How much is enormous ? A laptop/tablet is likely to have more than a smartphone... With hundreds of classes in a .jar to convert it uses some 256M, with

Re: [Sugar-devel] Ticket 8104

2009-12-28 Thread Cecilia Abalde
Thank you very much !! cheers, Cecilia 2009/12/28 Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Cecilia Abalde caba...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy wrote: I download the patch, then run rpm-ivh Name patch but there is a problem with the files: ... Any ideas ???

Re: [Sugar-devel] Ticket 8104

2009-12-28 Thread Daniel Drake
On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 09:46 +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: - Daniel Drake (cc'd) suspects the bug has not been fixed upstream (the latest NM/dbus pairing seems to have similar issues). So a similar issue may exist in the F11 images. I don't know if he's filed a corresponding ticket on

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-28 Thread John Watlington
On Dec 28, 2009, at 8:54 AM, NoiseEHC wrote: You can still create applications with http://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/ With the existing tools it is true that children cannot create the same quality applications what is possible with the Android SDK environment (even if we

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-28 Thread John Watlington
I just installed Fedora Eclipse on an XO-1.5 and launched it under Gnome.Granted, I ran into #9927 (/var/cache/yum too small)... Cheers, wad ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: User workflow sharing Journal Entries over USB sticks

2009-12-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
Aleksey, List, Hope everyone is relaxing, enjoying and not reading the list... if you are... might be the right time to wake up from the excesses of Christmas celebrations :-) Looks like everyone forgot about these patches of mine. I've now posted them as http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1636 --

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:07 AM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: Ahem.   With XO-1.5, I feel that I AM shipping a full-fledged Linux PC to every child. Since when did it take more than a GB of RAM and 4GB of disk to host an IDE ? I think that was Emacs 23. j/k. ;-) --scott --

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 7:25 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: j/k. ;-) emacs is what I am using on both XO-1 and XO-1.5 so pretty good going ;-) (Along with vim! Peace!) Lots of people here want to claim we need Eclipse to have an IDE. Of all the developers involved in the whole

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-28 Thread Paul Fox
martin wrote: On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 7:25 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: j/k. ;-) emacs is what I am using on both XO-1 and XO-1.5 so pretty good going ;-) (Along with vim! Peace!) Lots of people here want to claim we need Eclipse to have an IDE. Of all the

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-28 Thread John Watlington
On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Paul Fox wrote: martin wrote: On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 7:25 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: j/k. ;-) emacs is what I am using on both XO-1 and XO-1.5 so pretty good going ;-) (Along with vim! Peace!) Lots of people here want to claim we need

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-28 Thread Paul Fox
wad wrote: Emacs forever ! (although it has gotten huge) hmm. how's its Flash player? :-) =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-28 Thread John Gilmore
Since when did it take more than a GB of RAM and 4GB of disk to host an IDE ? I think that was Emacs 23. No, that was Eight Megs and Continuously Swapping. I.e. in an amazingly large and expensive Sun Workstation with 8 *megabytes* of RAM, emacs would still make the system page-fault at a

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-28 Thread Neil Graham
On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 19:38 +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: emacs is what I am using on both XO-1 and XO-1.5 so pretty good going ;-) (Along with vim! Peace!) Lots of people here want to claim we need Eclipse to have an IDE. Of all the developers involved in the whole Linux

Re: User workflow sharing Journal Entries over USB sticks

2009-12-28 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 07:25:21PM +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: Aleksey, List, Hope everyone is relaxing, enjoying and not reading the list... if you are... might be the right time to wake up from the excesses of Christmas celebrations :-) Looks like everyone forgot about these patches

Need Live CD to take to Argentina

2009-12-28 Thread Caryl Bigenho
H All i... Did this ever get implemented? If so where do I find it? Are there any special instructions I need to make and use the live CD? Can a usb stick be used for file storage? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.84/Sugar_LiveCD I would like to be able to take several copies with me to

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-28 Thread NoiseEHC
Ahem. With XO-1.5, I feel that I AM shipping a full-fledged Linux PC to every child. Since when did it take more than a GB of RAM and 4GB of disk to host an IDE ? My point still stands: until Android supports its own development tools, you are turning it's users into second class

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 29.12.2009, at 01:47, NoiseEHC wrote: Ahem. With XO-1.5, I feel that I AM shipping a full-fledged Linux PC to every child. Since when did it take more than a GB of RAM and 4GB of disk to host an IDE ? My point still stands: until Android supports its own development tools, you

Re: Need Live CD to take to Argentina

2009-12-28 Thread satyaakam goswami
I would like to be able to take several copies with me to give to a tech person at an elementary school in Buenos Aires when I go there in mid-January. Thanks, check these out http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Strawberry http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick

Re: #9927 LOW Future : filesystem has trouble with large yum installs

2009-12-28 Thread John Watlington
While #9927 is personally interesting to me, can I instead divert your attention to the logs I just posted for #9865 ? Tmw. I will be in a position to verify this bug on a largish number of C1 machines, and can hand off the poster child (prebuild #2) to someone else. I would blame hardware, but

Re: #9927 LOW Future : filesystem has trouble with large yum installs

2009-12-28 Thread James Cameron
Have you tried with timeouts.timer_rtcwake set to zero yet? My current gut feel based on 9865_1.txt is that there is a race of sorts between rtcwake and the apparent removal of the block device for the SD card. But I'm no expert there. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/

Re: #9927 LOW Future : filesystem has trouble with large yum installs

2009-12-28 Thread John Watlington
Good intuition. That stopped the crashing... On Dec 28, 2009, at 10:22 PM, James Cameron wrote: Have you tried with timeouts.timer_rtcwake set to zero yet? My current gut feel based on 9865_1.txt is that there is a race of sorts between rtcwake and the apparent removal of the block

Re: #9927 LOW Future : filesystem has trouble with large yum installs

2009-12-28 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, While #9927 is personally interesting to me, can I instead divert your attention to the logs I just posted for #9865 ? Looks identical to the bug (#9702) with 3.3V not coming up fast enough to successfully resume the internal SD card. We should check that your C1 brings up the 3.3V

Re: #9927 LOW Future : filesystem has trouble with large yum installs

2009-12-28 Thread Paul Fox
john wrote: Good intuition. That stopped the crashing... On Dec 28, 2009, at 10:22 PM, James Cameron wrote: Have you tried with timeouts.timer_rtcwake set to zero yet? My current gut feel based on 9865_1.txt is that there is a race of sorts between rtcwake and the

Re: #9927 LOW Future : filesystem has trouble with large yum installs

2009-12-28 Thread John Watlington
On Dec 28, 2009, at 11:15 PM, Chris Ball wrote: Hi, While #9927 is personally interesting to me, can I instead divert your attention to the logs I just posted for #9865 ? Looks identical to the bug (#9702) with 3.3V not coming up fast enough to successfully resume the internal SD card.

Re: #9927 LOW Future : filesystem has trouble with large yum installs

2009-12-28 Thread John Watlington
On Dec 28, 2009, at 11:15 PM, Chris Ball wrote: Hi, While #9927 is personally interesting to me, can I instead divert your attention to the logs I just posted for #9865 ? Looks identical to the bug (#9702) with 3.3V not coming up fast enough to successfully resume the internal SD card.

os100 ?

2009-12-28 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
I see mention being made of os100. What is it? Where is it ? mikus ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: os100 ?

2009-12-28 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, I see mention being made of os100. What is it? Where is it ? It's the first build of what will eventually become the 10.2.0 release, but it hasn't been released yet -- that will probably happen tomorrow. - Chris. -- Chris Ball c...@laptop.org One Laptop Per Child

Re: os100 ?

2009-12-28 Thread James Cameron
It is the first release of the new build system, but it is not yet announced. It will be announced eventually. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: [IAEP] Need Live CD to take to Argentina

2009-12-28 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 03:47:25PM -0800, Caryl Bigenho wrote: H All i... Did this ever get implemented? If so where do I find it? Are there any special instructions I need to make and use the live CD? Can a usb stick be used for file storage? If you need livecd only because machines

Re: [Server-devel] Various / PDF resources in Moodle

2009-12-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:47 AM, David Leeming da...@leeming-consulting.com wrote: A Todays files folder would be useful Sounds right. You can make that now, by hand, and add a link to it from the homepage, or from the top section of the course. (1) what happens if the version on the XS is

Re: [Server-devel] Various / PDF resources in Moodle

2009-12-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: (A) PDFs uploaded to Moodle folders always open in the Rainbow-Daemon dialogue when you left click on the links. If you go to hyperlinks on HTML pages either in my local public folders or out on the net, a PDF

Re: [Server-devel] [ejabberd] mnesia corruption with concurrent ejabberdctl usage

2009-12-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Badlop bad...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if your ejabberdctl shell script has the problem described in this thread/message: http://lists.jabber.ru/pipermail/ejabberd/2009-September/005351.html That sure looks like the smoking gun. To check I am understanding