joyride-1820: no space left on device

2008-04-02 Thread Martin Dengler
Hi, I'm getting "no space left on device: '/home/upserv/builds/[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[1] from olpc-update when trying to run olpc-update joyride-1820. I've been getting a different error when trying joyride-1819 ('unknown module build-joyride-1819')[2], but now it's the same (just changed as I was re

Power Management

2008-04-02 Thread Aswathy
Hi We are trying to enhance the power management module in OLPC. We thought of developing the application using Gtk+ in C. We have tried one small program in OLPC. Built using gtk+ in C. It displays the battery details of the OLPC. We have run the program in Linux platform and got the required

Re: http access to git repository

2008-04-02 Thread Charles Merriam
Try "man git-http-push", "man git-http-pull". -- Charles 2008/4/1 Ravi Kondamuru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > I have problem accessing git as the firewall seems to be disallowing git > port. Are there any alternative ways to accessing git repository? > thanks, > Ravi. > >

Re: [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-02 Thread david
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: > Ryan, > > Like Ben said, inducing the physical layout of the network from metrics > such as RSSI will give you poor results for various reasons. What > "Space" did was to average arrival rates from direct neighbors over a > "long" period of

Re: Power Management

2008-04-02 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, if you want to use an activity to display that information this thread may help you: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-March/012280.html Simon Aswathy wrote: > Hi > > We are trying to enhance the power management module in OLPC. We thought > of developing the application using

Re: Power Management

2008-04-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 02.04.2008, at 09:54, Aswathy wrote: > > Hi > > We are trying to enhance the power management module in OLPC. We > thought of developing the application using Gtk+ in C. > > We have tried one small program in OLPC. Built using gtk+ in C. It > displays the battery details of the OLPC. We h

Re: Power Management

2008-04-02 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/4/2 Aswathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi > >We are trying to enhance the power management module in OLPC. We thought > of developing the application using Gtk+ in C. > > We have tried one small program in OLPC. Built using gtk+ in C. It displays > the battery details of the OLPC. We have r

Re: [PyCON-Organizers] 2009 volunteers, etc.

2008-04-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:49 AM, Jeff Rush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Edward Cherlin wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 2:30 AM, Cosmin Stejerean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> I'd like to take our video recording to the next level and be able to > >> stream all the talks live next year.

Re: Power Management

2008-04-02 Thread Aswathy
Hi, Thanks for the suggestions... The whole scenario goes like this: As part of our final year project, we have decided to do a power management application for the OLPC. As per our ideas, we have decided to implement the features that normal laptops have as a power management module

Re: OLPC security project

2008-04-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:27 AM, Jeremy Flores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone know of any security-related projects that need to be worked on > for OLPC? I am taking a computer and network security class, and I was > thinking that Bitfrost would be an interesting topic for

Re: Power Management

2008-04-02 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Aswathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is our whole idea. Do give suggestions on this. Also how we can make > this application compatible with the OLPC. Actually we were really new to > the OLPC. We just came to know about OLPC last year. We started thinking > a

Re: Becoming involved in XO software development?

2008-04-02 Thread Greg Smith (gregmsmi)
Hi Janine, Coming at your question from the user requirements side, I have one request from the deployment in Uruguay. They want to make it easier for kids to blog. Description of the requirement is at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Uruguay Click on the link called: Requiremientos Para XO It ha

Re: [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 4:27 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > trying to work from signal strength won't work well, but you may be able > to triangulate based on the arrival time of the signal at various > locations. > > there are companies that do this commercialy with 3+ access points The rec

Wireless Congestion Management Option

2008-04-02 Thread Greg Smith (gregmsmi)
Hi All, FYI, I came across this proposed protocol enhancement for wireless mesh network which may interest you: http://netsrv.csc.ncsu.edu/twiki/bin/view/Main/DiffQ Looks like its really designed for a mesh of Access points instead of clients and focused on TCP at L4. Also, may not currently wo

No Software Status Meeting

2008-04-02 Thread Michael Stone
Folks, Jim and I are skeptical that having a software status meeting today will help us so we propose to cancel today's software status meeting in favor of spending the time on other tasks. (If you do have a weekly status update that you wish to deliver publicly, please include it in a reply to th

Re: Wireless Congestion Management Option

2008-04-02 Thread John Watlington
Meshes of access points don't tend to change topology over time. The laptop mesh very well might. The need to handle this is one of the problems causing congestion. Anybody find new algorithms for mobile meshes ? John On Apr 2, 2008, at 10:37 AM, Greg Smith (gregmsmi) wrote: > Hi All, > > FY

Stop Motion Animation?

2008-04-02 Thread Kent Loobey
From: Re: [PyCON-Organizers] 2009 volunteers, etc. "Teleconferencing using the XO's built-in camera is doable in Record at a reasonable frame rate, except that it isn't currently set up for continuous transmission. I'm pretty sure that Mary Lou Jepsen can come up with a clip-on wide-angle lens for

1. Project name : Funny Talk is set up

2008-04-02 Thread Henry Hardy
Tue, 1 Apr 2008 14:09:16 -0700, "Jacob Joaquin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1. Project name : Funny Talk Done. Your tree is here: git+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/git/activities/funnytalk Please follow instructions here for importing your project: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Importing_your_proje

quick mini-conference update.

2008-04-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Hey, folks. I've been sick for the past two days, so I apologize for not doing as much mini-conference planning as I might have. We're still on for tomorrow and Friday, at 1cc, although our mini-conference might be somewhat scaled down from its original proposal -- I certainly won't be able to do

Re: [Testing] New OLPC Process and Rules for Builing Activities, Releases, and Firmware Builds

2008-04-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Charles Merriam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > New OLPC Process and Rules for Building Activities, Releases, and > Firmware Builds > > I. Introduction > > It's an exciting time at the OLPC Foundation! In the next few weeks > we will be releasing Update 1 and hold

Re: [Testing] New OLPC Process and Rules for Builing Activities, Releases, and Firmware Builds

2008-04-02 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:14 AM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can we present this as a formal proposal at the mini-conference? > --scott Agreed, I was right there with it until the stages of water metaphor. :) Wade ___ Devel mailing

Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-02 Thread Oliver Mattos
To be honest I very much doubt the hardware in the wireless adaptors could measure time in single digit nanoseconds, and even if they could it would probably require a change in the over the air signal to use more bandwidth (spectrum) for a "pulse" to get better time resolution, which in turn would

Re: [sugar] Mini-Conference Proposal: Toolbars & Tabs (or lack thereof)

2008-04-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eben Eliason writes: > > 1. Toolbar buttons use icons instead of text as an identifier. Beyond Just to throw another dog into this fight, I've recently been very concerned with making legacy applications "work as well

Re: Mini-Conference Proposal: olpcfs

2008-04-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Delta-based storage is an implementation detail, certainly possible (I > > provided cites in the olpcfs page for how it would be done). I

Re: [sugar] Mini-Conference Proposal: Toolbars & Tabs (or lack thereof)

2008-04-02 Thread Jim Gettys
On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 13:27 -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Eben Eliason writes: > > > 1. Toolbar buttons use icons instead of text as an identifier. Beyond > > Just to throw another dog into this fight, I've recen

New joyride build 1821

2008-04-02 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1821 Changes in build 1821 from build: 1819 Size delta: 0.00M -kernel 2.6.22-20080318.1.olpc.bd40014b4232921 +kernel 2.6.22-20080402.1.olpc.bb855af96a4caa7 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/anno

New faster build 1821

2008-04-02 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1821 Changes in build 1821 from build: 1815 Size delta: 0.00M -kernel 2.6.22-20080318.1.olpc.bd40014b4232921 +kernel 2.6.22-20080402.1.olpc.bb855af96a4caa7 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/annou

Re: [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-02 Thread david
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, Oliver Mattos wrote: > To be honest I very much doubt the hardware in the wireless adaptors could > measure time in single digit nanoseconds, and even if they could it would > probably require a change in the over the air signal to use more bandwidth > (spectrum) for a "pulse"

Re: [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:38 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the problem with trying to use sound is that it requres a clear path from > the servers to the laptops, something I would not expect to see very much. > it's also very sensitive to the direction the laptops are pointing. Absolutely, an

Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-02 Thread John Watlington
On Apr 2, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:38 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> the problem with trying to use sound is that it requres a clear >> path from >> the servers to the laptops, something I would not expect to see >> very much. >> it's also very

Mini-conference schedule

2008-04-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Here's a proposed schedule: Thursday (April 3) 12:30pm: Ben Schwartz, "Frameworks for collaboration" 1:30pm: Richard Smith, "Suspend/Resume" 2:30pm: Chris Ball, "Power Management" 3:30pm: break Lightning talks: 4:00pm - Eben Eliason, "New Activity management design" 4:30pm - E

Re: Mini-conference schedule

2008-04-02 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Wednesday 02 April 2008, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > Here's a proposed schedule: > > Thursday (April 3) > 12:30pm: Ben Schwartz, "Frameworks for collaboration" > 1:30pm: Richard Smith, "Suspend/Resume" > 2:30pm: Chris Ball, "Power Management" > 3:30pm: break > Lightning talks: >

Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-02 Thread John Watlington
On Apr 2, 2008, at 5:05 PM, John Watlington wrote: > > On Apr 2, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:38 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> the problem with trying to use sound is that it requres a clear >>> path from >>> the servers to the laptops, something

Re: Connecting a non python activity to sugar

2008-04-02 Thread Paul Fox
bert wrote: > On 31.03.2008, at 14:52, Paul Fox wrote: > > bert wrote: > >> Also, try the sugarize script and library: > >> > >> http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-January/009387.html > >> > >> (maybe that should be added to the Wiki) > > > > indeed -- that would be a nice additi

update.1 "breaking" wrapped activities?

2008-04-02 Thread Paul Fox
in a description of how non-sugar apps need some help to run properly under sugar, the current front page of OLPC News contains the following quote: "... there is some discussion that Update 1, a forthcoming upgrade to Sugar, will break all existing wrappers, and current Activities wi

New faster build 1822

2008-04-02 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1822 Changes in build 1822 from build: 1821 Size delta: -0.39M -sugar 0.75.14-1.olpc2 +sugar 0.79.2-1.olpc2 +sugar-toolkit 0.79.1-1.olpc2 -vte 0.16.9-1.fc7 --- Included sugar-toolkit version 0.79.1-1.olpc2 --- -- This mail was autom

SVG images not loading properly?

2008-04-02 Thread kawk
I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but anyhow. I have a bit of a problem with SVG images in my Activity. I have a collection of .SVG images I designed with Inkscape. They are not saved in Inkscape .SVG, but "plain .SVG", according to Inkscape. Now, I am attempting to load these afor

Re: Mini-conference schedule

2008-04-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
Great - I will join in for Friday afternoon over the phone., and will send an outline of my XS notes beforehand. Will we use the conferencing rig? cheers, martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny

Re: Mini-conference schedule

2008-04-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On undefined, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I will join in for Friday afternoon over the phone., and will send an > outline of my XS notes beforehand. Will we use the conferencing rig? I assume so; I'm checking with Kim; will send email. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) _

Re: [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-02 Thread Hal Murray
> The recommended configuration for mid-to-high-end school servers has 3 > active antennaes attached, and our recommendation is that they are > placed well apart. They can be up to 10m apart due to USB cable lenght > limits, and Wad mentioned 2m minimum recommended distance. If the > distance is e

Re: update.1 "breaking" wrapped activities?

2008-04-02 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Paul Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > in a description of how non-sugar apps need some help to run > properly under sugar, the current front page of OLPC News > contains the following quote: > > "... there is some discussion that Update 1, a forthcoming >

Phone-in # for mini-conference; video & chat info, too.

2008-04-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Phone-in info: > From the United States > 866-213-2185 > From Outside the United States > 1-609-454-9914 > accesscode: 8069698 I'll try to keep this open during all the talks. We may have to mute the speaker on our end if there's too much background noise. We'll also be on #olp

Re: update.1 "breaking" wrapped activities?

2008-04-02 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
> in a description of how non-sugar apps need some help to run > properly under sugar, the current front page of OLPC News > contains the following quote: > > "... there is some discussion that Update 1, a forthcoming > upgrade to Sugar, will break all existing wrappers, and > current

4-way Activity Sharing 100% Reliable on Ethernet

2008-04-02 Thread Michael Stone
Dear devel, I just did an extremely small test: 1) reflashed 4 XOs with candidate-703 + recent bundles 2) installed olpc-utils-0.71-1 and a usb ethernet adapter on each XO 3) started Chat, Write, and Read (Phyla.pdf) 4) made friends among all 4 xos 5) shared Chat by invitation; and accepted

Re: update.1 "breaking" wrapped activities?

2008-04-02 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > in a description of how non-sugar apps need some help to run > > properly under sugar, the current front page of OLPC News > > contains the following quote: > > > > "... there is some discussion that Update 1,

Re: Mini-conference schedule

2008-04-02 Thread Carol Lerche
For the hangers-on such as myself, it wouldn't be necessary to have a video record if that's too difficult...an audio recording plus slideware might be just fine. (Personally, I am watching XOs be used in a kindergarten tomorrow and Friday, as I have been all week, and will be greatly appreciative

Re: http access to git repository

2008-04-02 Thread Ravi Kondamuru
I am still seeing some issue with doing a fetch? Is this the equivalent to git-clone? $ git-http-fetch git://dev.laptop.org/sugar-jhbuild fatal: Not a git repository $ git-http-fetch git://18.85.2.147/sugar-jhbuild fatal: Not a git repository thanks, Ravi. On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:11 AM, Charles

New joyride build 1823

2008-04-02 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1823 Changes in build 1823 from build: 1821 Size delta: -0.40M -sugar 0.75.14-1.olpc2 +sugar 0.79.2-1.olpc2 +sugar-toolkit 0.79.1-1.olpc2 -vte 0.16.9-1.fc7 --- Included sugar-toolkit version 0.79.1-1.olpc2 --- -- This mail was auto

Re: [sugar] Mini-Conference Proposal: Toolbars & Tabs (or lack thereof)

2008-04-02 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 7:27 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could someone with some experience with GTK/Gnome themes comment > briefly on how reasonable it would be to create a theme to make legacy > applications look as much as possible like our "old" sugar and "new" > sugar

Re: New joyride build 1823

2008-04-02 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1823 > > Changes in build 1823 from build: 1821 > > Size delta: -0.40M > > -sugar 0.75.14-1.olpc2 > +sugar 0.79.2-1.olpc2 > +sugar-toolkit 0.79.1-1.olpc2 >

Bugs ML (or archiving) stop?

2008-04-02 Thread Korakurider
Hi. I can't see April archive of Bugs ML on http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/bugs/ while there are surely some changes on Trac (see http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/etoys-notify/2008-April/000472.html for instance). What's broken? I don't know whether bugs ML itself is broken now as I 'm not su

Re: OLPC security project

2008-04-02 Thread Jeremy Flores
I think this might be a very interesting topic. I'm unsure as to what has or has not been investigated though... should I concentrate my analysis more on D-Bus, Telepathy, or how the presence service implements these and the logical paths the system takes to get to the service? If I should focu

Re: update.1 "breaking" wrapped activities?

2008-04-02 Thread Carol Lerche
Is this the reason that Bryan Berry in Nepal found that Tux Paint did not work, and is the instruction given here: http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Test_Config_Notes&action=edit§ion=29 still the correct way to disable isolation? On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL

Re: [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-02 Thread david
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, Oliver Mattos wrote: >> the commercial products are able to do it with unmodified laptops, so it >> should not require a change to the over-the-air signal (unless this >> generation of active antenna hardware isn't up to the task) >> > > I'd be very innterested to know how they

Re: Line In Not Responding

2008-04-02 Thread Richard A. Smith
Chris Barrett wrote: > batteries I had lying around. I see that there is a max voltage, I'm > worried I may have inadvertently fried the controller or some component > of the system that the mic and audio in system rely on. The line in is protected by a 5.1V zener and then there is a 1k resis

Re: [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-02 Thread david
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, Hal Murray wrote: > Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:49:38 -0700 > From: Hal Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], devel@lists.laptop.org, > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > Ryan Crawford Comeaux

Re: 24 teachers start OLPC training

2008-04-02 Thread Bryan Berry
Hey Edward, Papert built on the theories of Piaget and Vygotsky. Co-learning, experiential learning - these ideas were pioneered by Piaget and Vygotsky. David Cavallo and Edith Ackermann talked extensively of Piaget and Vygotsky at the OLPC Learning conference I attended in January. I am particul

Re: [sugar] Mini-Conference Proposal: Toolbars & Tabs (or lack thereof)

2008-04-02 Thread Wade Brainerd
I wonder if the differences between Sugar and a regular window manager aren't so severe that it might be worth offering a simple desktop environment which runs within Sugar as a Activity? You would download and launch this Activity, and its interface would be a regular Linux desktop. It would sup

Re: update.1 "breaking" wrapped activities?

2008-04-02 Thread Michael Stone
That's the big on/off switch for all isolation. Sugar also independently decides to turn off isolation for a small number of activities listed in its source code. Michael On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 07:33:36PM -0700, Carol Lerche wrote: > Is this the reason that Bryan Berry in Nepal found that Tux Pa