On Jul 19, 2008, at 9:36 PM, John Gilmore wrote:
But a certain former
security wizard at OLPC removed that recommendation from the Wiki
page, thus leading to your current troubles.
This is untrue; please support your claims with diffs. As per:
Hi,
sugar - 0.81.6-4.20080715git8137d5c37f.fc9.i386: Insufficient space
in download directory
/home/cscott/public_html/xo-1/streams/joyride/build2187-20080720_2235/devel_jffs2/install_root/var/cache/yum/olpc_development/packages
to download
Regards,
Tomeu
Hi Andrés!
I'm also a Go player and I'd really love to see this activity improve.
Is it already possible to share this activity so that children can play
together from two different XOs? I was unable to get this working when
I last tried. If this is not possible yet, I think this should be a
On 21.07.2008 11:53, Ivan Krstić wrote:
On Jul 19, 2008, at 9:36 PM, John Gilmore wrote:
But a certain former
security wizard at OLPC removed that recommendation from the Wiki
page, thus leading to your current troubles.
This is untrue; please support your claims with diffs. As
On Jul 21, 2008, at 8:38 AM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
Sorry, but that's untrue, unless your definition of nothing else is
political stuff.
My definition of nothing else is nothing else relevant to the claim
the poster was making. John was quite aware of the changes to the
political
Hi,
Problem: switching between activities and the journal is slow
Test-case: the test consist of starting Write and switching between it
and the journal for a sensible amount of time. All tests were run on a
xo; the journal had 50 entries. Switching was automated by calling
Greg rocks!
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I've already sent this note to a bunch of lists, but this is the list that
really counts. You folks are the ones who will make or break this effort.
Much of the work that lies before us is exactly the kind of work that all
of you have been doing for years now.
Forwarding again without the annoying attachment style
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Am 20.07.2008 um 12:27 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Am 17.07.2008 um 07:37 schrieb Bert Freudenberg:
Am 17.07.2008 um 00:10 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso:
Marco has added a session manager to Sugar (in 8.2.0) that takes
care
Am 20.07.2008 um 08:59 schrieb Marco Pesenti Gritti:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Thanks for not answering,
Hmm? Both Tomeu and me answered.
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-July/016914.html
I think this is a huge problem. Here in Uruguay they are seeing
a flood of machines with this problem, and it will only get worse
over time (and we will encounter this in every other deployment
soon.)
They desperately need a fix...
wad
On Jul 21, 2008, at 12:55 PM, Greg Smith wrote:
Hi
There are two issues here that we should be sure to not intertwingle:
1) whatever behavior Sugar may have when low/out of space, during
operation, or at boot time.
2) JFFS2's behavior when the file system is almost full. When it gets
almost full, it can spend all its time trying to garbage
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 19:54 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
In update.1 we shipped the DBus version of gnome-vfs2 (Nokia patches)
which didn't bring ORBit in. I'm not sure if that's still the case in
joyride.
I looked at the OLPC-2 gnome-vfs2 spec file and I don't see what you
mean here.
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 19:00 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
I guess GConf2-dbus provides an equivalent interface to the GConf2
package and hence is a drop-in replacement.
Oh ok, that make sense and I guess it's the case here...
So do we want to use GConf2-dbus like we did for update1,
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 19:00 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
I guess GConf2-dbus provides an equivalent interface to the GConf2
package and hence is a drop-in replacement.
Oh ok, that make sense and I guess it's the
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 9:36 PM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
security wizard at OLPC removed that recommendation from the Wiki
page, thus leading to your current troubles.
If Mikus had followed your suggestion, we would not have found this
(legitimate) bug. Thank you, Mikus.
It's
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are two issues here that we should be sure to not intertwingle:
1) whatever behavior Sugar may have when low/out of space, during
operation, or at boot time.
A number of independent issues here:
a) the initscripts
On Jul 21 2008, at 13:39, C. Scott Ananian was caught saying:
2) JFFS2's behavior when the file system is almost full. When it gets
almost full, it can spend all its time trying to garbage collect, and
you can lose completely (the system sort of gets the slows, and grinds
to a halt).
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 09:51 -0700, Deepak Saxena wrote:
On Jul 21 2008, at 13:39, C. Scott Ananian was caught saying:
2) JFFS2's behavior when the file system is almost full. When it gets
almost full, it can spend all its time trying to garbage collect, and
you can lose completely (the
Hi, agreed on the action items, not so sure about the roadmap.
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 7:39 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
d) trying to save new content to the journal should also give an
obvious message that the NAND is full.
Should the DS also reserve some free space?
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 09:51 -0700, Deepak Saxena wrote:
On Jul 21 2008, at 13:39, C. Scott Ananian was caught saying:
2) JFFS2's behavior when the file system is almost full. When it gets
almost full, it can spend all its time trying to garbage collect, and
you can lose completely (the
Robert Myers wrote:
Is this a software issue or did my mic die? Things were working before I
upgraded to Joyride. Anything I can do to check?
You stated that it work in the ofw selftest so your hardware appears good.
If this is a software issue are there libraries or versions I need to
On Sunday 20 July 2008 01:14:48 Edward Cherlin wrote:
2008/7/19 Andrés Ambrois [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hello all!
I've recently started learning python and sugar programming and, while
trying to be useful in the meantime, have been tinkering around with the
PlayGo activity.
Thanks. I
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 13:28 -0400, Jim Gettys wrote:
The bonobo-activation-server likes to chew up 40mb (of RAM), for doing
almost nothing.
ORBit doesn't appear to depend on any bonobo components. And we've
successfully kicked bonobo out of the build.
Daniel
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 1:55 PM, David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
#6480 is fixed as of yesterday, should be in next joyride.
Yeah. Since it was purely cosmetic I figured it might as well just wait
to come through 'naturally'.
It's not purely cosmetic: in my testing the bogus
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 13:28 -0400, Jim Gettys wrote:
The bonobo-activation-server likes to chew up 40mb (of RAM), for doing
almost nothing.
ORBit doesn't appear to depend on any bonobo components. And we've
successfully
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 1:39 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A number of independent issues here:
I have edited http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7125 to clarify the pieces
of this bug and to make the component tasks (including #5317) more
obvious. I have *not* attempted to set
In general, gnome is moving away from Bonobo/Orbit toward dbus based
messaging.
- Jim
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 20:09 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 13:28 -0400, Jim Gettys
On Monday 21 July 2008 08:50:53 Bastien wrote:
Hi Andr�s!
I'm also a Go player and I'd really love to see this activity improve.
Is it already possible to share this activity so that children can play
together from two different XOs? I was unable to get this working when
I last tried. If
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In general, gnome is moving away from Bonobo/Orbit toward dbus based
messaging.
Yeah, there is no plan yet (that I know of) to replace GConf with
something dbus based though :(
Marco
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:03 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sugar - 0.81.6-4.20080715git8137d5c37f.fc9.i386: Insufficient space
in download directory
On Jul 21 2008, at 13:55, Jim Gettys was caught saying:
#6480 is fixed as of yesterday, should be in next joyride.
I'll be re-doing Nokia's patches so that they go upstream if we still want
them after 8.2 is out; however, I don't think the approach used by them
actually
helps us.
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 01:39:25PM -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are two issues here that we should be sure to not intertwingle:
1) whatever behavior Sugar may have when low/out of space, during
operation, or at
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 20:25 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In general, gnome is moving away from Bonobo/Orbit toward dbus based
messaging.
Yeah, there is no plan yet (that I know of) to replace GConf with
something
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
b) sugar should, ideally, start even if flash is full. It is
currently failing when writing to ~olpc/.boot_time or some such, and
crashing.
In olpc-utils: usr/bin/olpc-session. This was done for performance
testing
Dear world,
We should meet tomorrow to discuss release questions and on Wednesday to
discuss tickets. I will arrive fifteen minutes early for each of these meetings
to finalize the agenda for each; however, here are some tentative items:
-
For TUESDAY:
*
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 15:36 -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
7319 DBG jcardonaMulticast rx broken in joyride
\ No wireless team members present; we'll
need to get a separate update.
I'll have fixed this before I leave tonight. Looks like a number
It sounds like you are working on the root causes.
Tday I'm hanging out with the logistics/repair team,
and the problem is worse than I thought this morning.
They are being innundated with new problems caused
by full disk (but weren't really aware that was the cause.)
Since fixes in 8.2 won't
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 3:57 PM, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems like we should be able to produce a upgrade and
customize key that does this in one step, and preserves the
activation key for the laptop.
Yes. The issues in the past have just been coordination-related. I
Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:45:51 -0300, Gabriel Eirea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. Project name : Conozco Uruguay
Done. Your tree is here:
git+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/git/activities/conozco-uruguay
Please follow instructions here for importing your project:
My changes from the last 2 weeks are now in joyride, leaving us 2mb over
target.
I slimmed down 2 more packages today (pam and xorg-x11-utils) which
should bring us to the target.
We also need to get these package forks into Fedora. I filed a load of
RH bugzilla bugs about them today.
Andr�s Ambrois [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, I don't own an XO, but I've tried running two sugar-jhbuild instances,
and it works fine. Well, there's no turn enforcement (you can play anywhere
anytime, even if it's the other guys turn), and you can't really tell if
anyone connected until
Hi,
I am looking for the right rpms to install for the Java plugin
java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin
For a G1G1 XO-1 build 703, previously advertised method did not work;
Also trying to locate watch-listen-nonfree-14.xo The wiki says download it
from Helix site, it's not there, the Hleix Community
Hi Andrés!
I'm also a Go player and I'd really love to see this activity improve.
Is it already possible to share this activity so that children can play
together from two different XOs? I was unable to get this working when
I last tried. If this is not possible yet, I think this should be a
HG == Hemant Goyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
HG Hi, What is the need for speech-dispatcher to run as root? Is it
HG possible to run it as non-root? We need to modify the
HG speechd.conf files from a non-root program and as such run the
HG speech-dispatcher daemon with non-root
They are being innundated with new problems caused
by full disk (but weren't really aware that was the cause.)
Since fixes in 8.2 won't help them for months, they need
the short term fix (c).
Mitch added Forth words to delete files from the NAND flash, after
we had similar troubles after
I should've said that just removing a couple of useless or easily
replaced files -- rather than reflashing -- means that the kids don't
lose all their work when the NAND fills up.
John
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On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 10:29 -0700, Deepak Saxena wrote:
I can go ahead and apply the existing Nokia patch into the 8.2 kernel as
a short-term measure but don't want to arbitrarilly choose a reservation
size.
Dave, do you have a suggestion as to what percentage should be reserved to
keep
Hi,
Here's a small Python script that acts as a final fail-safe in the event
that the datastore is full and we can't boot because of it, by deleting
datastore files largest-first until we cross a threshold of how much
free space is enough. It could be incorporated into the Python init
process.
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, Chris Ball wrote:
Hi,
Here's a small Python script that acts as a final fail-safe in the event
that the datastore is full and we can't boot because of it, by deleting
datastore files largest-first until we cross a threshold of how much
free space is enough. It could be
Hi,
I'll go on record repeating the comments made earlier. deleting the
students largest file is probably deleting their most important
work.
Of course, it should be only a last resort; I tried to make that clear.
I hope that in 8.2 we'll fix the problem in general, in a way that
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:37 AM, David Leeming
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Trying out the school server for the first time at a training session in a
Solomon Islands deployment. With 23 trainee teachers, using G1G1 XO-1
laptops with build 703 (update 1). All registered successfully and all able
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