Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

Walter Bender wrote: > First of all, just to clear, Flash does run on the laptop: there is a > choice of both the Adobe Flash player and the FOSS Flash player, > Gnash. We opted to install the Gnash player by default. Many of the > problems people have with Flash are actually related to codecs rath

Re: [Community-news] [sugar] where is Walter?

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Martin Langhoff > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Edward Cherlin <

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

Mitch Bradley wrote: > But in the steady > state, the > web is the high-order bit, sufficient to qualify as education in and of > itself. Well ... it *was* at one time -- a university library made up of electrons. But in my mind, that was long ago in a galaxy far away. Oh, sure, you can still

Re: [sugar] [Community-news] where is Walter?

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:20:22PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Suppose you were to do that. What would you actually chang

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

Hi all! This is Spiky, Japanese volunteer. Reading through whole the discussion on Suger v.s. Windows, (or whatever) what I'm so afraid of is there's no discussion from the aspect of the very root principle of OLPC, that is, "Learning learning" or constructionism theory with which OLPC is fundame

Re: [Community-news] [sugar] where is Walter?

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Martin Langhoff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What's this hostility about? Does it accomplish somet

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

> I believe Sugar was, is, and will be the greatest effort along with > OLPC principles, and constructionism point of view, > Etoys and other current activities on Sugar play very important > roles on it. This idea soon drives the simple conclusion that > Windows itself doesn't have to do with our

Re: [sugar] [Community-news] where is Walter?

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:20:22PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Suppose you were to do that. What would you actually change? I mean, I > > don't see an imminent threat to Sugar and the constructivist Activity > >

Re: [Community-news] [sugar] where is Walter?

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What's this hostility about? Does it accomplish something? > > Not everyone knows everything about your project - though it's > interesti

Re: [sugar] [Community-news] where is Walter?

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Edward Cherlin wrote: > 2008/4/22 Martin Edmund Sevior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> I've stayed away from this discussion until now. But for my own part, if the >> OLPC becomes just another laptop running "standard" educational software of >> the kind that inhabits my daughters

Re: [sugar] [Community-news] where is Walter?

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 09:58:20PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: > > 2008/4/22 Martin Edmund Sevior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > I really bought into the "new paradigm" of pervasive collaboration and > > > constructi

Re: Software Status Meeting Tomorrow @ 1400 EST, #olpc-meeting, irc.freenode.org

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We'll be having our weekly status meeting tomorrow at 2:00 PM EST in > #olpc-meeting on irc.freenode.org. Alright! That's a 6AM'er for me, but I'll be there ;-) cheers, martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Community-news] [sugar] where is Walter?

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's this hostility about? Does it accomplish something? Not everyone knows everything about your project - though it's interesting to hear. Regardless of project size, getting hold of key people at a large project is

Re: [sugar] [Community-news] where is Walter?

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 09:58:20PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: > 2008/4/22 Martin Edmund Sevior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I really bought into the "new paradigm" of pervasive collaboration and > > constructionist education. I'm not particularly interested in a cheap laptop > > clone and in any cas

Re: [sugar] [Community-news] where is Walter?

2008/4/22 Martin Edmund Sevior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I've stayed away from this discussion until now. But for my own part, if the > OLPC becomes just another laptop running "standard" educational software of > the kind that inhabits my daughters primary school, I'm no longer interested > in the

Re: [Community-news] [sugar] where is Walter?

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Wes Kussmaul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Edward Cherlin wrote: > > > I recently wrote to Nicholas about Illinois HB5000, the Children's > > Low-Cost Laptop Act, and received no reply. > > Yeah, I know the feeling. I recently wrote to the CEO of General Motors

Re: [Community-news] [sugar] where is Walter?

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Wes Kussmaul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Edward Cherlin wrote: > > > I recently wrote to Nicholas about Illinois HB5000, the Children's > > Low-Cost Laptop Act, and received no reply. > > Yeah, I know the feeling. I recently wrote to the CEO of General Motors >

RE: [sugar] [Community-news] where is Walter?

I've stayed away from this discussion until now. But for my own part, if the OLPC becomes just another laptop running "standard" educational software of the kind that inhabits my daughters primary school, I'm no longer interested in the project. I really bought into the "new paradigm" of perva

RE: [Community-news] where is Walter?

Walter, As someone who only knows you recently I am sorry to hear that you will be ‘redirecting’ your work with OLPC. I’ve appreciated your help in getting me more involved with the program, and look forward to my current collaboration with Tom Boonsiri. As a teacher who is not involve

Re: [Community-news] [sugar] where is Walter?

Edward Cherlin wrote: > I recently wrote to Nicholas about Illinois HB5000, the Children's > Low-Cost Laptop Act, and received no reply. Yeah, I know the feeling. I recently wrote to the CEO of General Motors about customizing my minivan for my work and didn't hear back either... OLPC now has

Re: [Community-news] where is Walter?

Hoi, the most imporant thing is that we are left with a sense of gratitude of all the great things the leaders that have left have done. In this way we know the history of the project. We also remember that the people who left did good.. and we cherish them for it. We still need to move on and make

I seemed to have caused a XO power glitch reboot...

Hi, I seemed to have caused a XO power glitch reboot at; storyjamunicef.googlepages.com at which Henry suggested [after examining /var/logs] that you may wish to know how I did so. Reaching across the table for the charger plug in the XO that was being charging I not very smoothly attem

New faster build 1895

http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1895 Changes in build 1895 from build: 1894 Size delta: 0.00M -Journal 86 +Journal 87 --- Changes for Journal 87 from 86 --- + First code for the journal redesign: -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org

New joyride build 1895

http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1895 Changes in build 1895 from build: 1894 Size delta: 0.00M -Journal 86 +Journal 87 --- Changes for Journal 87 from 86 --- + First code for the journal redesign: -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.or

TP interface assignment keeps changing

I don't have wireless. My XO is connected through an USB-ethernet adapter. Way back when, this wired interface was always being assigned to eth0. From time to time I install a newer Joyride build. More than a week ago (1852 ?) the wired interface was being assigned to eth1 instead. Then (1

Re: [Community-news] where is Walter?

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Stephen John Smoogen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Chris Preimesberger > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Walter, you have been a shining light of good information for all this > > time, and it's sad to see you pull away from the

Software Status Meeting Tomorrow @ 1400 EST, #olpc-meeting, irc.freenode.org

Dear everyone, We'll be having our weekly status meeting tomorrow at 2:00 PM EST in #olpc-meeting on irc.freenode.org. See you there! Michael ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:44:43AM +0200, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: > The big problem is that most people see this as a Linux+Sugar vs. > Windows decision. Presently, I'm not very concerned by the role that Windows plays in OLPC's aims -- there's plenty of stuff to learn from and through Wind

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 23.04.2008 03:09, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > In theory, mesh networking is a feature of the wireless firmware and > should work fine regardless of operating system choice. In practice, this is manifestly not t

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

On 23.04.2008 03:09, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The laptops are even more wonderful with a child-friendly UI, loads of fun >> activities, and a non-proprietary software stack. But in the steady >> state, the >> we

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Ivan Krstić <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 22, 2008, at 5:25 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote: > > > > > Who says Negroponte is shifting? Certainly not Walter in any of his > > public posts. Can't happen. We would all be out of here like a shot to > fork Sugar. Nichola

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: > Mitch Bradley wrote: >> No, I'm saying that giving laptops to all the world's children is a >> Good Thing, >> and worthy of being called an "education project", even if they don't >> have the >> world's friendliest UI or free software. And the reason for that

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

2008/4/23 Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/4/22 Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Ivan Krstić > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My solution is the simplest design I could create that allows both > > > emergency restore (laptop FS has been

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The laptops are even more wonderful with a child-friendly UI, loads of fun > activities, and a non-proprietary software stack. But in the steady > state, the > web is the high-order bit, sufficient to qualify as educat

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

Mitch Bradley wrote: > No, I'm saying that giving laptops to all the world's children is a Good > Thing, > and worthy of being called an "education project", even if they don't > have the > world's friendliest UI or free software. And the reason for that is because > the web is so immensely valu

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

No, I'm saying that giving laptops to all the world's children is a Good Thing, and worthy of being called an "education project", even if they don't have the world's friendliest UI or free software. And the reason for that is because the web is so immensely valuable. The laptops are even more

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:28:20 -1000 Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > Suppose, as a thought experiment, that someone were to propose giving > every child in the world > a device that could do nothing but access the web. Would you consider > that a positive > educational step? >

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

Mitch Bradley wrote: > I know quite a few children in the US who benefit from laptops running a > proprietary stack. > > Web access is the core capability that transforms the computer from a > convenience to a near necessity. > > Before the web, most people in developed countries had computers at

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Suppose, as a thought experiment, that someone were to propose giving > every child in the world > a device that could do nothing but access the web. Would you consider > that a positive > educational step? It would

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

I am not sure what you are driving at Mitch: web browsers are available to fundamentalists of both camps. Are you suggesting that a proprietary browser will reach more children more quickly? -walter On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know quite a few

Re: list of laptops connected to jabber

thanx, thats exactly what i needed On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 5:56 AM, Guillaume Desmottes < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le lundi 21 avril 2008 à 10:05 +0200, Guillaume Desmottes a écrit : > > Le samedi 19 avril 2008 à 22:18 +0300, Giannis Galanis a écrit : > > > In the testbed in peabody, the list

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

I know quite a few children in the US who benefit from laptops running a proprietary stack. Web access is the core capability that transforms the computer from a convenience to a near necessity. Before the web, most people in developed countries had computers at work for doing "Office" stuff,

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 08:00:06PM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:25:12 -0700 > Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At least Ivan quoted this part properly: "Negroponte said he was mainly > > concerned with putting as many laptops as possible in children's hands

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:25:12 -0700 Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 05:29:58PM -0400, Ivan Krstić wrote: > > "Eventually, Negroponte added, Windows might be the sole operating > > system ... Negroponte said he was mainly concerned with putting as > > many

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

First of all, just to clear, Flash does run on the laptop: there is a choice of both the Adobe Flash player and the FOSS Flash player, Gnash. We opted to install the Gnash player by default. Many of the problems people have with Flash are actually related to codecs rather than the player itself. We

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 07:29:22PM -0400, Ivan Krstić wrote: > On Apr 22, 2008, at 7:25 PM, Joshua N Pritikin wrote: >> The laptop might run Windows or Linux or both, but not Sugar on >> Windows. > > That's not accurate. Care to elaborate? Suppose Sugar was running on Windows. What's the benefi

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

On Apr 22, 2008, at 7:25 PM, Joshua N Pritikin wrote: > The laptop might run Windows or Linux or both, but not Sugar on > Windows. That's not accurate. -- Ivan Krstić <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | http://radian.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.o

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 05:29:58PM -0400, Ivan Krstić wrote: > "Eventually, Negroponte added, Windows might be the sole operating > system ... Negroponte said he was mainly concerned with putting as > many laptops as possible in children's hands." > > -- via Associated Press >

New faster build 1894

http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1894 Changes in build 1894 from build: 1893 Size delta: 0.00M -sugar-toolkit 0.79.4-1.olpc2 +sugar-toolkit 0.79.5-1.olpc2 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/faster-pkgs.html for aggregat

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

On Apr 22, 2008, at 7:00 PM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: > It confirms that this has become a > pure laptop project and not an education project as the official > mission > states (stated?). Giving laptops to children is not an education > project, it's giving laptops to children. Which is why

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 03:52:35PM -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I always forget that when I reply the message does not go to the list. > On the support-gang list there is quite a bit of discouragement over > Walter leaving because Negroponte has decided to go the XP route with > the XO. And he is

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

"Eventually, Negroponte added, Windows might be the sole operating system ... Negroponte said he was mainly concerned with putting as many laptops as possible in children's hands." ..and credit cards with huge overdrafts for all. so this project IS about the colonization of minds and expanding 'ma

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 05:29:58PM -0400, Ivan Krstić wrote: > On Apr 22, 2008, at 5:25 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote: > > Who says Negroponte is shifting? Certainly not Walter in any of his > > public posts. Can't happen. We would all be out of here like a shot > > to fork Sugar. Nicholas is weird, b

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

On 22.04.2008 23:29, Ivan Krstić wrote: > On Apr 22, 2008, at 5:25 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote: > >> Who says Negroponte is shifting? Certainly not Walter in any of his >> public posts. Can't happen. We would all be out of here like a shot >> to fork Sugar. Nicholas is weird, but not utterly stup

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

In brief, As Peruvian collaborator and open source developer, the issue of the departure of Walter and rumors about Windows XP really worry me. In Peru there are those who have worked with politicians and authorities speaks about the freedoms that the OLPC / XO means, may lose that? We need someon

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

On 22.04.2008 23:25, Edward Cherlin wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Aaron Konstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I always forget that when I reply the message does not go to the list. >> On the support-gang list there is quite a bit of discouragement over >> Walter leaving because N

New joyride build 1894

http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1894 Changes in build 1894 from build: 1890 Size delta: 0.00M -sugar 0.79.3-1.olpc2 +sugar 0.79.4-1.olpc2 -sugar-base 0.2.3-1.olpc2 +sugar-base 0.79.1-1.olpc2 -sugar-toolkit 0.79.3-1.olpc2 +sugar-toolkit 0.79.5-1.olpc2 -telepathy-glib 0.

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

The OLPC Association has done amazing things with limited resources and deserves to take great pride in this. However, this Negroponte quotation from the article seems correct to me: He lamented that an overriding insistence on open-source had hampered the XOs, saying Sugar "grew amorphously" and

Re: Internet wide chat

Ar 22/04/2008 am 09:59, ysgrifennodd Guillaume Desmottes: > Le lundi 21 avril 2008 à 11:54 -0400, Chris Ball a écrit : > > Hi, > > > >> - They asked if video chat is possible. I recall someone was > >> working on it months ago. What is the current status? > > > > We need two things: a

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

On Apr 22, 2008, at 5:25 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote: > Who says Negroponte is shifting? Certainly not Walter in any of his > public posts. Can't happen. We would all be out of here like a shot > to fork Sugar. Nicholas is weird, but not utterly stupid. "Eventually, Negroponte added, Windows might

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Aaron Konstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I always forget that when I reply the message does not go to the list. > On the support-gang list there is quite a bit of discouragement over > Walter leaving because Negroponte has decided to go the XP route with > the

Re: [sugar] where is Walter?

On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Drew Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Kim Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OLPC has increased funding and resources in 2008 toward a continued > > commitment to helping kids in the least developed countries through > > deploy

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

2008/4/22 Kim Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm not seeing the use case that I *think* is the primary one: That's still listed as the main one, at least in Ivan's email, and definitely from my perspective. This discussion of how to deal with the secondary one with minimal fuss and with a good fit w

Walter leaving and shift to XP.

I always forget that when I reply the message does not go to the list. On the support-gang list there is quite a bit of discouragement over Walter leaving because Negroponte has decided to go the XP route with the XO. And he is in talks with MS$ to get a version of XP to run on the XO. How may dev

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

I'm not seeing the use case that I *think* is the primary one: 1) Backup and restore from a disaster recovery perspective. and the secondary that goes with that is: 2) Ability to restore to a new laptop (as in the child lost the laptop or it died and they need to restore their work to a new lapto

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

2008/4/22 Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/4/22 Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > 2008/4/22 Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > 2008/4/22 Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Ivan Krstić > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

2008/4/22 Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/4/22 Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > 2008/4/22 Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Ivan Krstić > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > My solution is the simplest design I could create

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

2008/4/22 Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/4/22 Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Ivan Krstić > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My solution is the simplest design I could create that allows both > > > emergency restore (laptop FS has been

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

2008/4/22 Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Ivan Krstić > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My solution is the simplest design I could create that allows both > > emergency restore (laptop FS has been trashed, get everything back) and > > individual file res

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

2008/4/22 Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Ivan Krstić > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My solution is the simplest design I could create that allows both > > emergency restore (laptop FS has been trashed, get everything back) and > > individual file res

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Ivan Krstić <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My solution is the simplest design I could create that allows both > emergency restore (laptop FS has been trashed, get everything back) and > individual file restore and sharing via a web interface running on the XS, Inde

New faster build 1893

http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1893 Changes in build 1893 from build: 1890 Size delta: 0.00M -sugar 0.79.3-1.olpc2 +sugar 0.79.4-1.olpc2 -sugar-base 0.2.3-1.olpc2 +sugar-base 0.79.1-1.olpc2 -sugar-toolkit 0.79.3-1.olpc2 +sugar-toolkit 0.79.4-1.olpc2 -telepathy-glib 0.7

Re: [Community-news] where is Walter?

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Chris Preimesberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Walter, you have been a shining light of good information for all this > time, and it's sad to see you pull away from the project. Sad to see > the project melting away, too -- at least that's my impression. > On

Re: [squeak-dev] to be deployed Epaati version is out!

Congratulations ! I have not looked at the latest stuff yet, but it looked impressive a few weeks back :-) Karl Ties Stuij wrote: > Well, it took us at OLE Nepal a whole lot of sweat and especially > tears, but finally, after half a year of hard work, we finished the > first build that is actu

Re: [Olpc-open] Making Plans

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Kim Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OLPC's focus is on development, funding and delivery of laptops to the > least > > developed countries. The expectations for features, testing, sup

Re: Internet wide chat

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Bernie Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Urko Fernandez wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 13:13 +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > >> The "download codecs yourself" (aka "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") is an > > > > I don't think you can call it piracy when all you are

Re: Internet wide chat

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Urko Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 13:13 +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > The "download codecs yourself" (aka "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") is an > > I don't think you can call it piracy when all you are doing is using the > free implement

Re: Internet wide chat

On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 16:31 +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > And even if they _do_ ask you, patent law only allows patent holders > a compensation proportional to the market opportunity involved in > the specific breach. So, if I download an mp3 codec, I can be > asked to refund the market value o

Re: Turkish keyboard layout

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Bernie Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Walter Bender wrote: > > > Actually, I don't recall ever approving a Turkish keyboard... The rest > > of the table seems up to date as far as I know. I had been in close > > contact with several groups in Turkey about 12

Re: Internet wide chat

Urko Fernandez wrote: > On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 13:13 +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >> The "download codecs yourself" (aka "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") is an > > I don't think you can call it piracy when all you are doing is using the > free implementation of a codec. This is completely legal in some > cou

Re: Disk Images and Version Control

joshua n pritikin wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 01:45:21AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > * provide root access on some Linux host(s) (or take great care with > >fakeroot / qemu configuration) to allow others to work on the > >filesystem without screwing up file ownership and per

Re: Document sharing issues

Guillaume, I was using gabble every time. The Collabora jabber server was up each time I did a test, so I assume that by default I was using gabble. I have not yet tried a test with Salut because that seems to be broken on the computer I have sugar-jhbuild on. (I do have it working on anoth

Re: Disk Images and Version Control

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 01:45:21AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > * provide root access on some Linux host(s) (or take great care with >fakeroot / qemu configuration) to allow others to work on the >filesystem without screwing up file ownership and permissions If you use GIT, you need to

Re: Turkish keyboard layout

Walter Bender wrote: > Actually, I don't recall ever approving a Turkish keyboard... The rest > of the table seems up to date as far as I know. I had been in close > contact with several groups in Turkey about 12 months ago and at the > time, they were advocating the F layout. It would certainly be

Re: [Server-devel] Customizing build 703 for mass deployment

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 04:19:33PM +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: > here is what i have I tried this afternoon > > bunzip xo-1tar.bz2 > mkdir os703 > tar xvf xo-1..tar -C os703/ > > then > > mkfs.jffs2 -n -e128KiB -r os703 -o testpre.img > sumtool -n -p -e 128KiB -i testpre.img -o testpost.img >

Re: Translation refresh

Kim Quirk wrote: > Collaboration is really important to any release... so we need to include > some activities that collaborate as part of formal testing. Similarly, > Journal is much more than just an activity... so that will have to be part > of systematic testing. > > Browse has to work as it

Re: Internet wide chat

On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 13:13 +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > The "download codecs yourself" (aka "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") is an I don't think you can call it piracy when all you are doing is using the free implementation of a codec. This is completely legal in some countries, you are not stealing anyt

Re: Internet wide chat

Guillaume Desmottes wrote: > Right. As said we need a good free encoder as H263 has legal issues. > > So, if we want to have full audio/video support on XO's we have to: > a) Solve this legal codec issue and make farsight work with the chosen > free codec The "download codecs yourself" (aka "[EM

Re: Internet wide chat

Guillaume Desmottes wrote: > We use XMPP/Jabber when the laptop is connected to a schoolserver. So > basically all we need to do to allow this is: > - Enable communications between jabber server > - Add a way in Sugar to add not OLPC contact as Friend, initiate chats > with them, etc. > - Modify C

Re: [Server-devel] Customizing build 703 for mass deployment

here is what i have I tried this afternoon bunzip xo-1tar.bz2 mkdir os703 tar xvf xo-1..tar -C os703/ then mkfs.jffs2 -n -e128KiB -r os703 -o testpre.img sumtool -n -p -e 128KiB -i testpre.img -o testpost.img ../pilgrim/crcimg/crcimg testpost.img copyied testpost.img and testpost.crc to my

Re: [sugar] where is Walter?

Edward Cherlin wrote: > Basically, the impression that outsiders get is of imperial rule > by Nicholas Negroponte, with no sense that the workers or the public > deserve to be informed of anything until after the decisions have all > been made, and made wrongly. > What's so imperial about the Un

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

On Apr 22, 2008, at 12:46 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Wad's too simple, I am hoping to use a slightly simplified version of > Ivan's. For the restore part, I think I will drastically simplify > things from Ivan's approach. My solution is the simplest design I could create that allows both emerg

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Michael, > > thanks for looking into this - I had the wikipage in my sight, but not > the bugs you listed. Excellent, reading up to fill the gaps. > > > > Based on feedback from Peru, Mexico, and Nepal, the "restor

Re: list of laptops connected to jabber

Le lundi 21 avril 2008 à 10:05 +0200, Guillaume Desmottes a écrit : > Le samedi 19 avril 2008 à 22:18 +0300, Giannis Galanis a écrit : > > In the testbed in peabody, the list of peers seen from the server is > > usually a superset of what we see from each individual mesh view. > > > > Could be re

Re: Disk Images and Version Control

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 01:45:21AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > * provide root access on some Linux host(s) (or take great care with >fakeroot / qemu configuration) to allow others to work on the >filesystem without screwing up file ownership and permissions Virtual machines would help

Re: fun and games with trying to un-suspend

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:20:49AM -0400, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi, > >> I've had these symptoms often over the course of the last two >> months, with various update.1 / joyride builds. > > This is http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6590. I'll put more effort into > reproducing it here. Thanks

Re: [Olpc-open] Making Plans

On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Kim Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OLPC's focus is on development, funding and delivery of laptops to the least > developed countries. The expectations for features, testing, support, > logistics, delivery, IT and RF infrastructure (to name a few things) are > w

Re: Translation refresh

2008/4/21 Kim Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I guess I'd like to err on the side that people believe by default that 'no > activities are supported'. That way anything that works is a plus! > > In reality there are going to be some important things that we want to > ensure are really working with eve

Re: [Server-devel] The road towards xs-0.3

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 4:32 AM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Martin Langhoff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So with all these tours, my planned xs-0.3 is a bit delayed. Being in > NZ, and with a proper private office, it won't take long. Any news

Re: [sugar] where is Walter?

On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 05:54:13PM -0500, Joe Barr wrote: > > It really sucks to see OLPC shriveling up and dying. > > Joe, > > It's good for people who have been unable to reconcile their differences > with one another

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