Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-26 Thread Edward Cherlin
Ohshima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:47:11 -0700, > Edward Cherlin wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I'm glad that Debian didn't break the rules for etoys. >> >

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-26 Thread Edward Cherlin
ll of these questions will allow us to go back to Debian and say, Sorry for the misunderstanding, here is everything you asked for (Smalltalk/Squeak source code files, reasonably commented C source for VM and toolset). And to put into our git whatever people want in git, without making pointless bu

Re: etoys implementation

2008-06-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
e now have a few more patches in the OLPC VM branch > but it is not significant. The VM is a separeted rpm BTW. > > Why do you refer it to as "binary blob"? Yeah, it's mostly Smalltalk source and objects created in Smalltalk. > -- Yoshiki > ___

Re: etoys implementation

2008-06-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
defined in Squeak itself and different from GNU Smalltalk, and assemble the results into an executable image that could read all the Smalltalk source for a particular image. Or a file that gst could run to create an Etoys equivalent. There are strong reasons why Smalltalk developers generally don'

Re: wiki spam!

2008-06-20 Thread Edward Cherlin
__ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ "The best way to predict the future is

Unicode for Etoys

2008-06-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
oaded ... What is the status? -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ "The best way to predict the future is to invent it."--Alan Kay ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Switching to Kreyol ?

2008-06-17 Thread Edward Cherlin
>> Devel mailing list >> Devel@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >> > > > > -- > Sayamindu Dasgupta > [http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings] > ___ > Devel mailing list >

Re: Read Etexts now supports Text To Speech

2008-06-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
org/go/Read_Etexts > > James Simmons > > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.Ea

Re: [Localization] [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-06-03 Thread Edward Cherlin
dard files. Walter, Kim, what can you tell us about XO-ization? How standard are the changes for Latin-alphabet layouts? What do we know about the remaining non-Latin layouts? Who else has worked on this? > Best regards. > >Lionel. -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty a

Re: [Localization] [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-06-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
proposed originally for OLPC keyboards by cycling through a list. See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Category:Keyboard for links to other available layouts. On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry for so much cross-posting, but this affects us all. &

Re: [Localization] [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-06-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
gt; So, yes I'm really think that we need an appropriate keyboard in France, like > in Deutschland, in Italy and in others countries. > > My name is Lionel, Lionel Laské (please, don't miss the accent on my name). Oui, bien sûr. > Regards. > > > Lionel. > > --

Re: [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-05-31 Thread Edward Cherlin
and 8 candidates. Non-members include Switzerland, Norway, and the new countries formed from former Yugoslavia (except Slovenia). >> ;) >> --A! %-[ -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ "The best way to predict the future is to invent it."--Alan Kay ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-30 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:47 AM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Sun, May 18, 200

Re: Bitfrost and dual-boot

2008-05-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> I do believe that, pr

Re: Bitfrost and dual-boot

2008-05-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Arne Babenhauserheide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Freitag 30 Mai 2008 01:44:29 schrieb Edward Cherlin: > >> > I don't often write here, but at the moment I don't see why BitFrost >> > should be used in the first case (

Re: Bitfrost and dual-boot

2008-05-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Arne Babenhauserheide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Donnerstag 29 Mai 2008 23:07:23 schrieb Edward Cherlin: >> The question was, how to protect Linux from Windows, in particular >> from malware allowed in by Windows. (Or possibly from mal

Re: Video from last week's country meetings.

2008-05-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
Kay's talk is frozen at >> one point and never comes back. Is it possible to resurrect it? > > And Edward Cherlin wrote: >>I got to see only short bits of Nicholas's presentations, using Gnash on >>Ubuntu. The others I tried seemed to be complete. >> T

Re: Bitfrost and dual-boot

2008-05-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
rket in no more than two or three years. > _______ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ &qu

Re: Video from last week's country meetings.

2008-05-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
-Peru%20(medium).ogg > starting at 31:18) > --scott I got to see only short bits of Nicholas's presentations, using Gnash on Ubuntu. The others I tried seemed to be complete. The slide decks are very badly formatted, with text running off the pages, and remarkably uninformative. Al

Fwd: Open Source Voting Demonstration

2008-05-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
Public Domain--with the exception of copyrighted material quoted according to fair use, including publicly archiving at http://gnosis.python-hosting.com/voting-project/ -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ "The best way to pred

Re: OLPC: Open Organized Transparent

2008-05-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
orite) http://wiki.laptop.org/go/MotionDetection). And read the Alan Dean Foster novel Quozl, too. I showed Foster and many others an XO at the BayCon2007 Science Fiction convention, and he thinks what we are doing is totally wonderful. > --scott > > -- > ( http://cscott.net/ ) > _

Re: There's Still Time! Enter the Dr. Dobb's Challenge Now

2008-05-21 Thread Edward Cherlin
information please review the contest guide. > > TAKE THE DR. DOBB'S CHALLENGE NOW! > > Dr. Dobb's Journal > Think Services, a Division of United Business Media LLC > 600 Harrison Street > San Francisco, CA 94107 > United Business Media LLC Privacy Policy > > To opt-

Re: Turkish keyboard layout

2008-05-20 Thread Edward Cherlin
ts correct handling of these characters: i, I, ı, İ. (the dot is treated much like a typical European accent, being neither added nor removed during case conversion) Currently the Turkish locale settings make Sugar immediately crash. Even if this were fixed, Turkish text would still be mangled duri

Documentaries (was Re: View Source question)

2008-05-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:59 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... >> but there is >> some anecdotal evidence, such as the children in Galadima creating >> their own Igbo spel

Re: View Source question

2008-05-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
which had Brad Pitt narrating. Who has contacts at PBS or National Geographic or anywhere else suitable? > -walter > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > -- Edwa

Re: View Source question

2008-05-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
hould > ideally dive into the Browse source, not the Write source... User option, menu choice, alternate key combination... My plea to all software developers is, please don't tell me what I want. > Morgan -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://w

Re: View Source question

2008-05-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
because it is not Windows. Strange. Without real education > content, neither is good enough.) Linux is, of course, way better than Windows. Not least in supporting better education software and content, because we can integrate security, collaboration, and fantastically low power cons

Re: Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Sat, May 17, 2008

Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
cific language doesn't matter. This is a picture of learning only enough so that you never have to think for yourself again, and being taught to _like_ it that way. -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ "The best way to predict the future is to invent it."--Alan Kay ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: OLPC: Open Organized Transparent

2008-05-17 Thread Edward Cherlin
! See the parents' eyes when they realize that their children will have the opportunities the parents never got! Remember this moment to tell your grandchildren! Etc. etc. > The OLPC developers may be amazing and brilliant, but apparently there > aren't enough of t

Re: [sugar] Microsoft

2008-05-17 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 5:28 AM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Just look at the deal

Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view

2008-05-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
st but some innocence? >> >> That being said, I believe Bill G is a prime example of 'Daniel >> Plainview' capitalism -- it's not enough for him to win, everyone else >> has to lose. So OLPC has to be careful. >> >> Bob >>

Re: [sugar] Microsoft

2008-05-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
at heart a technology program and the XO is not a product in any conventional sense of the word. We are non-profit: constructionism is our goal; XO is our means of getting there. It is a very cool, even revolutionary machine, and we are very proud of it. But we would also be delighted if someone built s

Re: [sugar] Microsoft

2008-05-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
e to make Windows survive about an hour before crashing. > (keep the feature secret of course, to make debugging painful) It would have been a lot simpler to have left OFW as it was, unable to support a Windows boot. But the point is now moot. > _______ &g

Re: Priorities for Develop?

2008-05-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
and I will copy any > results of this thread to that page, but if you just have some votes you can > just vote there. > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > --

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Edward Cherlin
were installed. Your wish is noted on the Wiki page for the Architecture Manual. > mikus > > _______ > Sugar mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar > -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching

Re: Mind improving tool announcement

2008-05-13 Thread Edward Cherlin
ach:diplomants:projects:2009:olpcmind:artifacts:inception:requirements:uiprototype > Other artifacts are only in Russian, we will translate it, if it's > necessary. Хорошо, спасибо. > Yura > _______ > Devel mailing list > Devel

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

2008-05-13 Thread Edward Cherlin
estions > - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first > - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff > _______ > > > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > -- Edward

Re: What this list is about

2008-05-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 5:48 AM, Bernie Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Edward Cherlin wrote: >> >> 2008/5/9 Alan Kay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> >>> We are now several dimensions off topic ... >>> >> >> The Research mailing

Re: Sugar on the EEE PC

2008-05-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
king on making that a self-fulfilling prophecy. Certainly they acknowledged their current dependence on Microsoft in the launch announcement. > Subbu > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/list

Re: [Its.an.education.project] Sugar on the EEE PC

2008-05-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
n have some influence, by getting into the discussion with every legislature and every school board considering a laptop program. Nicholas Negroponte refuses to let us know who they are, so we must recruit people to the task ourselves. But remember, "Against stupidity the Gods themselves

Re: Wanted: Peruvian Folk Heroes.

2008-05-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
gt; p.s. In the next two emails, I'll suggest (a) a mechanism for spinning > of 3rd party development and merging back contributions upstream, and > (b) a list of interesting projects you might tackle. > > -- > ( http://cscott.net/ ) > ___

Core activities (was Re: An OLPC Development Model)

2008-05-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
visualization and analysis tools. The proposed literacy engine (Text-to-speech with karaoke text coloring) is another good candidate, and there are several more. I suggest that we take this discussion to the Research list, and that we put some thoughts on a Wiki page linked from Research. > -- >

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

2008-05-09 Thread Edward Cherlin
___ > Its.an.education.project mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.lo-res.org/mailman/listinfo/its.an.education.project > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > now. > _

Re: CIPA done

2008-05-09 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Martin Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 04:06:03PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: >> [. . .] >> It is sufficient if we clearly obey the law, and don't seek >> to go beyond it. > > Any lawyers around?

Re: CIPA done

2008-05-08 Thread Edward Cherlin
gt; fnord XXXemble, and to fnord peXXXion the government for a fnord redress of > grievances." > (with apologies to the EPIC) IFYP Our target countries in Asia, Africa, and elsewhere are fairly seriously conservative, and you can't invoke the US constitution on them. Actually, these da

Re: [Production] Amharic input

2008-05-08 Thread Edward Cherlin
___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ "The best way to predict the future is to invent it."--Alan Kay ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: [Its.an.education.project] Sugar on the EEE PC

2008-05-07 Thread Edward Cherlin
p://www.codewiz.org/ > \|_X_| "It's an education project, not a laptop project!" > ___ > > > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by

Re: An OLPC Development Model

2008-05-07 Thread Edward Cherlin
e discussing and worrying about has changed, and this > can distract from addressing issues such as what the best activty > presentation is for children and clasrooms in different settings -- one > reason that recent discussions on the education.project list have been great > to see and ta

Docs, Help tickets (was Re: OLPC Project suggestions.)

2008-05-06 Thread Edward Cherlin
h. Do we have any volunteers with UI testing experience? -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ "The best way to predict the future is to invent it."--Alan Kay ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Sugar API documentation

2008-05-06 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Bernie Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Edward Cherlin wrote: ... > > I am a professional API tech writer, and I have been a developer. I > > would be delighted to work on this, if I could get the support I need. > > What do the

Re: 15 computer science collegians looking for a project

2008-05-05 Thread Edward Cherlin
r > > here, if you have a good idea which of the project ideas we could > > implement. > > > > Thank you in advance, > > > > > > Patrick > > > > > > P.S. Please forgive me my English skills > > > > > > > > > > > > > > &g

Re: Marvell microkernel

2008-05-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Alex Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Edward Cherlin wrote: > > > How is everybody doing? and how is progress on the microkernel? > > > > Has anybody else gotten involved? > > > > Now that rms has actually switc

Re: Teacher Preparation Program for the OLPC Project in Nepal — Part II , Onsite training

2008-05-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
how > XO's can be used to help kids in the manner they naturally do. > > > > On Sun, 2008-05-04 at 22:00 -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: > > This is all excellent. It becomes even more urgent to have this > > material translated to English. Whom do we know who can h

Re: Teacher Preparation Program for the OLPC Project in Nepal — Part II , Onsite training

2008-05-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
* The learning objectives should determine when and how E-Paati is > used in class, not the other way round > * E-paati should be viewed as one of the many tools and activities > used to achieve the learning objectives > * The goal is to integrate E-paati in

Re: Too much "sugar" and too little "coffee": The real risks of failure for the OLPC project

2008-05-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
.org/go/Controversies). > > > > > _______ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreas

Re: [bytesforall_readers] Can we rescue OLPC from Windows?: RMS

2008-05-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
Thanks, Richard, for all that you do so that we can help each other, and so that we can bring hundreds of millions of children into our community, along with their teachers, families, and friends. > Copyright 2008 Richard Stallman > Verbatim copying and distribution of this entire article are > permitt

Organization was Re: A technical assessment of porting "Sugar" to Windows.)

2008-05-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
community-news/2008-April/thread.html#112 Where is Walter http://www.olpcnews.com/people/negroponte/open_source_fundamentalists.html http://www.olpcnews.com/people/negroponte/one_laptop_per_child_off_the_track.html http://www.olpcnews.com/people/negroponte/negroponte_is_further_gone.html http://www.olpcnews.com/pe

Adobe opens Flash--How much?

2008-05-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
* Publishing the Adobe Flash(R) Cast™ protocol and the AMF protocol for robust data services * Removing licensing fees – making next major releases of Adobe Flash Player and Adobe AIR for devices free -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http

Controversies

2008-04-30 Thread Edward Cherlin
ents somewhere else? Maybe create a new Policy mailing list? -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ "The best way to predict the future is to invent it."--Alan Kay ___ D

Re: 15 computer science collegians looking for a project

2008-04-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
. > >> > >> > >> > >> We are open for all your suggestions, you can email me directly if > >> > >> you have a project we can take part on, but you could also just > answer > >> > >> here, if you have a good ide

Re: 15 computer science collegians looking for a project

2008-04-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
started reading and working in Python and GTK, and saw, we can > cope that. > > We are open for all your suggestions, you can email me directly if > you have a project we can take part on, but you could also just answer > here, if you have a good idea which of the project

Re: typing tutor activity

2008-04-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
gt; Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ "The best way to predict the future is to invent it."--Alan Kay ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: [sugar] Sugar\Windows won't ship

2008-04-26 Thread Edward Cherlin
; Ivan Krstić <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | http://radian.org > > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.E

Re: what matters

2008-04-26 Thread Edward Cherlin
nerally agree on, and discuss what to do after that. Then maybe Walter and Ivan and a few other valuable contributors would be willing to discuss coming back. -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ "The best way to predict the future is to invent it."--Alan Kay ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Organization was Re: A technical assessment of porting "Sugar" to Windows.)

2008-04-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
community-news/2008-April/thread.html#112 Where is Walter http://www.olpcnews.com/people/negroponte/open_source_fundamentalists.html http://www.olpcnews.com/people/negroponte/one_laptop_per_child_off_the_track.html http://www.olpcnews.com/people/negroponte/negroponte_is_further_gone.html http://www.olpcnews.com

Re: A technical assessment of porting "Sugar" to Windows.

2008-04-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
Sugar/Windows > indistinguishable from Sugar/GNU/Linux). By better defining the > features we intend to accomplish in Sugar/Windows, we can more > rationally assess the costs and benefits of such investment. I think you make a strong case that it would take Microsoft several years to implement Sugar o

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

2008-04-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Peter Krenesky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Edward Cherlin wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Tom Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [sugar] This project is rolling, so should OLPC

2008-04-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
r OLPC. But Sugar will be fine, regardless, because most of the volunteers are ignoring the kerfuffle and continuing to code, test, and tweak. I'm still recruiting localizers and thinking about the design possibilities for textbooks and manuals for use on a ubiquitous hardware and software p

Re: [Community-news] [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
School Server Architect > - ask interesting questions > - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first > - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff > ___ > > > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.lapto

Re: Dailymotion videos on the XO laptop

2008-04-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
in a previous email that we should "try contacting > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - which is handled by Darah" for partnerships, right? That should be right, although I got a form letter back just the other day when I e-mailed her. > Thanks for your help > > Sebastien -- Edward Cherlin

Re: sugar's amorphousness

2008-04-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
9XLMsWfaqt-sI9FqFy2IewgD9074MH82 > > I guess it's too late now to ask for a rectification. It's never too late, but it's true that the new message will never catch up with the old one. > Thanks, > > Tomeu > _______ >

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

2008-04-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
.. and before anybody figures out what is > going on, all the teachers and students will fall in love with Sugar + > GNU/Linux See, you lose me there. How did they find out about Linux, and how were they able to install it? Schools can't install any software whatsoever without o

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

2008-04-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Tom Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:27 AM, Torello Querci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > If is possibl

Re: [Community-news] on Sugar

2008-04-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
onsibility to port and > support them (on windows at least)? I certainly hope not. People who sell their souls should at least take the trouble to get paid. > /Korakurider > > /Korakurider -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTre

Re: [Community-news] on Sugar

2008-04-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
e a betrayal of the worst kind. Letting Microsoft spend its own money rearranging the deck chairs, and sticking to our own knitting, is the best we can do for the children. > Kids will be the agents of change and our job is to reach > the most of them. That is not just selling laptops, b

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

2008-04-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
ructivist and Constructionist educators, and many other pioneers. See Student-Centered Education on the Wiki for a few pointers. > -walter -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ "The best way to predict the future is to inv

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

2008-04-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
end our time in other manner. If OLPC > not thing to became a Laptop company we ask to understand how OLPC wants to > do this. You will be welcome to join the fork, if it comes to that. > P.S. Sorry for my awful english Mi scuzi, canto in Italiano, ma non parlo. > Regards, > T

Re: Turkish keyboard layout

2008-04-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
ly we'll get more and more of these > > > > cases as we deploy to a wider range of countries. So this > > > > seems like a good time to discuss how to have per-country > > > > builds released in parallel with ease. > > > > > > > > -- >

Re: Turkish keyboard layout

2008-04-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
gt; -walter You have done a number of layouts, so can you tell us whether the modifications for the XO form a consistent pattern that we could apply in a more automated way? Or do you have to wrestle with details in adapting different layouts? -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by te

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

2008-04-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
rprising. > > While there are efforts to replace these, OLPC itself has been > > diligently working with both Marvell and Quanta to make the best of > > the situation.To suggest that fundamentalism has impeded progress on > > those two subsystems is not corr

Re: [Community-news] [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Martin Langhoff > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On We

Re: [sugar] [Community-news] where is Walter?

2008-04-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:20:22PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Suppose you were

Re: [Community-news] [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What's this hostility about? Does it accomplish something? > > Not everyone knows everything

Re: [sugar] [Community-news] where is Walter?

2008-04-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 09:58:20PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: > > 2008/4/22 Martin Edmund Sevior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > I really bought into the "new pa

Re: [sugar] [Community-news] where is Walter?

2008-04-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
Negroponte added, Windows might be the sole operating > system, and Sugar would be educational software running on top of it. > > > -- > Stephen J Smoogen. -- CSIRT/Linux System Administrator > How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed > in a naughty world. = Shakesp

Re: [Community-news] [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Wes Kussmaul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Edward Cherlin wrote: > > > I recently wrote to Nicholas about Illinois HB5000, the Children's > > Low-Cost Laptop Act, and received no reply. > > Yeah, I know the feeling. I recently

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

2008-04-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Ivan Krstić <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 22, 2008, at 5:25 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote: > > > > > Who says Negroponte is shifting? Certainly not Walter in any of his > > public posts. Can't happen. We would all be out

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

2008-04-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
ron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.Ea

Re: [Olpc-open] Making Plans

2008-04-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Simon Schampijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Edward Cherlin wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > &

Re: Translation refresh

2008-04-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
a > > > similar fashion that seems like a good way to go. > > > > So no activities at all are supported by OLPC? (the journal is > > technically an activity today, but is set to be merged into the shell > > when time permits). > > > > Thanks, > > > >

Re: [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
we are frozen out of the OLPC process. I don't like the thought of Nicholas and I and other OLPC Chicago members all turning up to testify before the Illinois Senate's Education Committee without prior consultation. -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teach

Re: What about Sugar? (Was: Mtg with Nicholas at 3pm on Thursday)

2008-04-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
hat doesn't run > Windows? > > Sameer Surely that would be Microsoft's problem and not ours. Unless Microsoft would like to put up some money, GPL its own software, and take a seat on the board? *<{;-{P}}} -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business ht

Re: Airlink 101

2008-04-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
.50 Yes Used WEP-Open with 128-bit hex key password -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ "The best way to predict the future is to invent it."--Alan Kay ___

Re: New Planning Thoughts draft.

2008-04-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
elease. I have worked at eBay, where a large number of development teams works on different projects, with a merge and rollout of a new set of features every two weeks. I have also worked with several kinds of Agile programming, where one of the goals is to have something shippable every two w

Re: Making Plans

2008-04-13 Thread Edward Cherlin
nois HB5000, The Children's Low-Cost Laptop Act, which proposes to put laptops in up to 300 schools. It has passed the Illinois House and gone to the Senate. It needs amendments, and we are working with the Lieutenant Governor's office on this. We would like to coordinate our efforts with

Re: [OLPC-Games] Wordsmith ( Scrabble ) :GSoC application

2008-04-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
wever, i am yet to find any implementation of scrabble in Hindi. I think > Hindi would be a too complicated to implement but would ask some hindi > professors i know for confirmations. Google finds nothing. > On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >

Jobs (was Re: "Chilling Effects" paper at USENIX UPSEC)

2008-04-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
re and software manuals, training materials, and textbooks? or some paid Volunteer Coordinators? -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ "The best way to predict the future is to invent it."--Alan Kay __

UNICEF school in a box (was Re: networking scenarios)

2008-04-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
mesh > > - no access point > > - no school server > > - we are currently aiming to support up to 15 laptops in this case > > - simple WiFi > > - access points > > - which tend not to handle multicast very well (1Mbit/s peak) > > - no school server > > - this is what G1G1 laptops will te

Re: [OLPC-Games] Wordsmith ( Scrabble ) :GSoC application

2008-04-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:36:14PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Aditya Vishwakarma > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I am Aditya

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