Re: semantic black ops for Activities? (Re: Greg Smith's Weekly Report)
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 3:47 AM, S Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey activity maintainers, > > I shrank the wasteful junky layout slightly and got rid of all the > warning triangles for empty values. If you see any yellow triangles > after updating your activity page, please let me know. thanks a lot, the wiki has been looking pretty sharp these days :) bobby > The Template:Activity_page could omit altogether table rows that have no > value. That would shrink it further but you'd lose the reminder to fill > in Related projects, Contributors, etc. Speak up if you want empty rows > omitted. > > Gary C Martin wrote: >> I think the main weird oddity I see now is that every activity page now >> using the new for has two blocks of apparently duplicate data showing, >> very confusing. There's a nicely formatted table at the very bottom >> (Facts about Moon), > > That's the "factbox" you see on pages with semantic info. (Since it > repeats info that's annotated somewhere else on the page, the newer > version of Semantic MediaWiki hides it by default.) > >> but before it is a great long ~page screed of the >> same data in a wasteful junky layout (Activity Summary). > > -- > =S Page user:skierpage > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: semantic black ops for Activities? (Re: Greg Smith's Weekly Report)
Hey activity maintainers, I shrank the wasteful junky layout slightly and got rid of all the warning triangles for empty values. If you see any yellow triangles after updating your activity page, please let me know. The Template:Activity_page could omit altogether table rows that have no value. That would shrink it further but you'd lose the reminder to fill in Related projects, Contributors, etc. Speak up if you want empty rows omitted. Gary C Martin wrote: > I think the main weird oddity I see now is that every activity page now > using the new for has two blocks of apparently duplicate data showing, > very confusing. There's a nicely formatted table at the very bottom > (Facts about Moon), That's the "factbox" you see on pages with semantic info. (Since it repeats info that's annotated somewhere else on the page, the newer version of Semantic MediaWiki hides it by default.) > but before it is a great long ~page screed of the > same data in a wasteful junky layout (Activity Summary). -- =S Page user:skierpage ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: semantic black ops for Activities? (Re: Greg Smith's Weekly Report)
Am 16.09.2008 um 22:54 schrieb Bert Freudenberg: > > (hehe, wouldn't http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities#X be a nicer > link? No way to do that I fear) Oh, thanks to Walter this works now :) - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: semantic black ops for Activities? (Re: Greg Smith's Weekly Report)
Actually, even more interestingly you could update data in any one of these forms, and then call that data in a different format on the [[Activities]] page, the [[/Activities/G1G1]] page, or even in another language. Setting that the Property:LatestVersion for the page [[Help_(activity)]] can be aggregated on another page to fill in a field... Let me try to find a good example... On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Am 16.09.2008 um 22:27 schrieb Seth Woodworth: > > So far the semantic form for activities is very rough in actual >> data-points and very rough in layout. >> >> On the actual form, I think that there needs to be some small changes; a >> drop down for languages, ability to add wiki-pages in certain fields instead >> of urls, etc. >> >> On the form's display, it would be possible to wrap the current data into >> a box on the right hand side of the page, much like the current Activities >> box. I will try to describe what I would like to see more clearly on the >> wiki-gang list and try to implement it (if I can). >> > > > As an activity author I'd love to have a single place to edit when a new > release is made. The box appearing on the Activities page should be > automatically created from the the activity's page, if you know what I mean. > > I made an approximation of this for the X activity (inspired by the small > boxes on top of the Activities page): > >http://wiki.laptop.org/go/X_Activity > > which includes the activity box at > >http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/X > > that is also referenced in the Activities page: > >http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities#Other > > (hehe, wouldn't http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities#X be a nicer link? No > way to do that I fear) > > - Bert - > > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: semantic black ops for Activities? (Re: Greg Smith's Weekly Report)
On 16 Sep 2008, at 21:54, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > As an activity author I'd love to have a single place to edit when a > new release is made. The box appearing on the Activities page should > be automatically created from the the activity's page, if you know > what I mean. > > I made an approximation of this for the X activity (inspired by the > small boxes on top of the Activities page): > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/X_Activity > > which includes the activity box at > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/X > > that is also referenced in the Activities page: > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities#Other Oooh. Nice idea using wiki includes! I do like. Anyone see any potentially nasty issues here? Control Panel software update happy with it? How about we do a sweep of all the Activity pages and use the same recipe? Objections? --Gary ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: semantic black ops for Activities? (Re: Greg Smith's Weekly Report)
Am 16.09.2008 um 23:14 schrieb Walter Bender: > You can add anchors to pages in the wiki, so you could do Activities#X My wiki-fu is not strong enough ... and I do not see "anchors" mentioned on http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Help:Editing - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: semantic black ops for Activities? (Re: Greg Smith's Weekly Report)
You can add anchors to pages in the wiki, so you could do Activities#X -walter On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 16.09.2008 um 22:27 schrieb Seth Woodworth: > >> So far the semantic form for activities is very rough in actual data- >> points and very rough in layout. >> >> On the actual form, I think that there needs to be some small >> changes; a drop down for languages, ability to add wiki-pages in >> certain fields instead of urls, etc. >> >> On the form's display, it would be possible to wrap the current data >> into a box on the right hand side of the page, much like the current >> Activities box. I will try to describe what I would like to see >> more clearly on the wiki-gang list and try to implement it (if I can). > > > As an activity author I'd love to have a single place to edit when a > new release is made. The box appearing on the Activities page should > be automatically created from the the activity's page, if you know > what I mean. > > I made an approximation of this for the X activity (inspired by the > small boxes on top of the Activities page): > >http://wiki.laptop.org/go/X_Activity > > which includes the activity box at > >http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/X > > that is also referenced in the Activities page: > >http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities#Other > > (hehe, wouldn't http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities#X be a nicer > link? No way to do that I fear) > > - Bert - > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: semantic black ops for Activities? (Re: Greg Smith's Weekly Report)
Am 16.09.2008 um 22:27 schrieb Seth Woodworth: > So far the semantic form for activities is very rough in actual data- > points and very rough in layout. > > On the actual form, I think that there needs to be some small > changes; a drop down for languages, ability to add wiki-pages in > certain fields instead of urls, etc. > > On the form's display, it would be possible to wrap the current data > into a box on the right hand side of the page, much like the current > Activities box. I will try to describe what I would like to see > more clearly on the wiki-gang list and try to implement it (if I can). As an activity author I'd love to have a single place to edit when a new release is made. The box appearing on the Activities page should be automatically created from the the activity's page, if you know what I mean. I made an approximation of this for the X activity (inspired by the small boxes on top of the Activities page): http://wiki.laptop.org/go/X_Activity which includes the activity box at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/X that is also referenced in the Activities page: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities#Other (hehe, wouldn't http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities#X be a nicer link? No way to do that I fear) - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: semantic black ops for Activities? (Re: Greg Smith's Weekly Report)
So far the semantic form for activities is very rough in actual data-points and very rough in layout. On the actual form, I think that there needs to be some small changes; a drop down for languages, ability to add wiki-pages in certain fields instead of urls, etc. On the form's display, it would be possible to wrap the current data into a box on the right hand side of the page, much like the current Activities box. I will try to describe what I would like to see more clearly on the wiki-gang list and try to implement it (if I can). On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 11:58 PM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On 15 Sep 2008, at 23:58, Seth Woodworth wrote: > > Gary, the wiki is generally discussed on the library list, and on the new >> wiki-gang(@lists.l.o) list. That may be why you missed information about >> the implementation of SMW. >> > > Thanks Seth, I'm still contemplating the changes (+ links as per your > previous email). Just to be clear, I do like the move direction, I'm just > trying to work out if it's now 'done' and if I (and other activity) > developers should now go back and spend time revisiting and revising their > activity wiki pages to comply. > > I think the main weird oddity I see now is that every activity page now > using the new for has two blocks of apparently duplicate data showing, very > confusing. There's a nicely formatted table at the very bottom (Facts about > Moon), but before it is a great long ~page screed of the same data in a > wasteful junky layout (Activity Summary). I initially thought my browser was > showing some hidden or accidental field of junk data, but Firefox shows it > too. > > --Gary > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
