Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 02:39:01AM -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, David Dawes wrote: Also check the LICENSE document http://www.xfree86.org/~dawes/pre-4.4/LICENSE.html. There is a lot of FUD being circulated about the licensing, so check here for the facts. Also check

Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread David Dawes
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 02:39:01AM -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, David Dawes wrote: Also check the LICENSE document http://www.xfree86.org/~dawes/pre-4.4/LICENSE.html. There is a lot of FUD being circulated about the licensing, so check here for the facts. Also check out the

Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread David Dawes
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 09:26:23AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 02:39:01AM -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, David Dawes wrote: Also check the LICENSE document http://www.xfree86.org/~dawes/pre-4.4/LICENSE.html. There is a lot of FUD being circulated

Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread Aidan Kehoe
Ar an 18ú lá de mí 2, scríobh David Dawes : Lets face it: Your real objection is to giving credit to XFree86 and its contributors. GPL-incompatibility and FUD about FSF-freeness(*) of the modified licence is just a poor excuse. I think it's unfair to assume that, David, especially since

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Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread Diego Calleja
El Tue, 17 Feb 2004 21:01:13 -0500 David Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Don't rely on the FUD being circulated by people who can barely hide their prejudice. Go straight to the definitive sources on licensing issues, namely the FSF and the OSI, and come to your own conclusions. Well, if

Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
DD [XFree86] was not, as a whole, FSF-free before the change, let DD alone GPL-compatible. Same after the change. But then XFree86 DD has never factored in those two licensing criteria. That's not quite the point, David. Of the many reasons for which I was happy to contribute my work to

Crashing Xvfb

2004-02-18 Thread Paul Millar
Hi, [I hope this is the right forum for this ...] I'm using the Xvfb from XFree86 as a dummy server for regression testing WINE. A recently added conformance/regression test causes Xvfb to consistently seg-fault. I've tried rebuilding Xvfb with the CVS HEAD version (as of 2004-02-17). The

Re: Crashing Xvfb

2004-02-18 Thread Jeff Epler
Paul, for what it's worth, I've also noticed wine apps killing Xvfb. This was with redhat 9's XFree86-Xvfb-4.3.0-2. We ended up changing from Xvfb to vncserver, both for this reason and because an error condition can require user intervention with our wine app. I don't have any better test

Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread David Dawes
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 04:19:31PM +0100, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: DD [XFree86] was not, as a whole, FSF-free before the change, let DD alone GPL-compatible. Same after the change. But then XFree86 DD has never factored in those two licensing criteria. That's not quite the point, David. Of

Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread David Dawes
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 09:30:35AM +, Aidan Kehoe wrote: Ar an 18ú lá de mí 2, scríobh David Dawes : Lets face it: Your real objection is to giving credit to XFree86 and its contributors. GPL-incompatibility and FUD about FSF-freeness(*) of the modified licence is just a poor excuse.

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Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
It was okay for Debian or FreeBSD to grab a routine that I wrote, as it was for Apple or Microsoft. DD They still can use your code, because *you* choose the licence for DD your code. And you choose one for yours, and Mark for his? The situation is going to become mighty confused. Are you

Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread David Dawes
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 08:30:48PM +0100, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: It was okay for Debian or FreeBSD to grab a routine that I wrote, as it was for Apple or Microsoft. DD They still can use your code, because *you* choose the licence for DD your code. And you choose one for yours, and Mark for

Re: [forum] Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread Marc Evans
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, David Dawes wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 09:30:35AM +, Aidan Kehoe wrote: There have been almost no expressions of support for this change, and coherent objections from many of those whose contributions matter to the project. I'm surprised you're still going ahead

Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
DD Even FreeType requires something in the documentation I know that. I disagree with FreeType's licensing as much as I disagree with the new XFree86 license, and I have told David Turner what I think about it. David, the fact that other people use silly licensing terms does not mean that we

i855GM: New BIOS breaks i810-driver

2004-02-18 Thread Christian Zietz
Hi, as developer of 855patch I get a lot of feedback from people using XFree86 on computers with i855GM graphics. It seems like new notebooks by Dell feature a new video BIOS from Intel (iirc Build 3066) which finally implements the int 0x10 0x5f11 function to set the amount of video RAM and thus

typo in 4.4.0 pre-Release Notes, font style comment

2004-02-18 Thread John Himpel
I found the link to the DocBook pre-release note for 4.4 on XFree86.org http://www.xfree86.org/~jwhimpel/html/ReleaseNotes-Smm-of-Upd.html says: On Darwin, IOKit mode now used shadowfb for must faster drawing. I think that should be now uses shadowfb for much faster drawing. Since I'm

Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread Kean Johnston
My point all along has been that the XFree86 licensing policy has not changed. If it is bad now, it was bad before. Why wasn't anyone complaining before? I hope my FQDN does not negatively impact my remarks but ... if no-one was complaining before why are you so determined to change the