Re: Heads-up: RPM 4.16 alpha coming to rawhide

2020-04-01 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 4/1/20 10:32 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: Dne 31. 03. 20 v 8:26 Panu Matilainen napsal(a): # rpmdb --rebuilddb I always wanted to ask: how the rebuilddb works? The man page states that rpmdb rebuilds db from package headers. Where are those headers stored? The database rebuild indeed just

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Clement Verna
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 09:34, Julen Landa Alustiza wrote: > > > 20/4/1 08:42(e)an, Clement Verna igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > > > > On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 22:41, Robbie Harwood > > wrote: > > > > Clement Verna > > writes: > > >

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-01 Thread Vít Ondruch
So although this update clarifies some part, we have not moved anywhere: ~~~ === Can we do this in a branch instead of in master? === This adds no value to the current approach where Red Hat maintainers would manually merge their changes into the internal build infrastructure. There's no way

Fedora-Cloud-30-20200401.0 compose check report

2020-04-01 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 1/1 (x86_64) -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/check-compose ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Michal Konecny
On 31/03/2020 20:53, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:40:55PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: ...snip... Because of switching costs, this is likely to prevent us from going back to Pagure if it does develop a vibrant independent community. That would be unfortunate. So, currently

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-01 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:31:38AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > I sent out the V2 version of the Change on Friday and then promptly > managed to injure myself and be away from email until today. I've read > through the email threads again this morning and I decided that, > rather than try to

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 01. 04. 20 v 10:37 Michal Konecny napsal(a): > > > On 31/03/2020 20:53, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:40:55PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> ...snip... >>> Because of switching costs, this is likely to prevent us from going back to >>> Pagure if it does develop a vibrant

Re: What could prevent from screen blanking / DPMS

2020-04-01 Thread Lukas Zapletal
I am gonna repost this in desktop, sorry for the incorrect list. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

What could prevent from screen blanking / DPMS

2020-04-01 Thread Lukas Zapletal
Hey, I have pretty minimal i3wm install and I recently tried to set up blanking and DPMS, but the thing is it does not work: $ xset s blank s 10 dpms 10 15 20 $ xset q Keyboard Control: auto repeat: onkey click percent: 0LED mask: 0002 XKB indicators: 00: Caps Lock:

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 12:24 PM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 7:44 PM Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:45 AM Adam Williamson >> wrote: >> > >> > On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 13:08 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: >> > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:48:55AM -0500,

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 12:39:21 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: * Bruno Wolff, III: RHEL is a special case, as CENTOS provides a free drop in replacement and switching from CENTOS to Fedora shouldn't be much work. Is there other proprietary software at the OS level or above, that is used for

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Clement Verna
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 14:40, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 08:16, Pierre-Yves Chibon > wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 11:49:41AM +0200, Clement Verna wrote: >> >There is also an historical taste to write in house applications for >> >things that don't

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 01. 04. 20 10:53, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 01. 04. 20 v 10:37 Michal Konecny napsal(a): On 31/03/2020 20:53, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:40:55PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: ...snip... Because of switching costs, this is likely to prevent us from going back to Pagure if

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Florian Weimer
* Bruno Wolff, III: > RHEL is a special case, as CENTOS provides a free drop in replacement > and switching from CENTOS to Fedora shouldn't be much work. Is there > other proprietary software at the OS level or above, that is used for > Fedora infrastructure? The Bugzilla fork running on

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 7:47 AM Jeff Fearn wrote: > > On 1/4/20 21:11, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 12:39:21 +0200, > > Florian Weimer wrote: > >> * Bruno Wolff, III: > >> > >>> RHEL is a special case, as CENTOS provides a free drop in replacement > >>> and switching from

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 9:26 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Dne 01. 04. 20 v 14:33 Alex Scheel napsal(a): > > - Original Message - > >> From: "Panu Matilainen" > >> To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 6:22:39 AM > >> Subject: Re: CPE Git Forge Decision > >>

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 4:49 PM wrote: > -- snip -- > > > > As for Pagure itself, I think this is where we fundamentally > > disagree. > > I think it behooves us to own and provide an experience tailored for > > our community from beginning to end. That's why we have Koji, Bodhi, > > Dist-Git,

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 11:33 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 12:24 PM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 7:44 PM Chris Murphy > wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:45 AM Adam Williamson > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 13:08

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Jeff Fearn
On 1/4/20 21:11, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 12:39:21 +0200, >  Florian Weimer wrote: >> * Bruno Wolff, III: >> >>> RHEL is a special case, as CENTOS provides a free drop in replacement >>> and switching from CENTOS to Fedora shouldn't be much work. Is there >>> other

Fedora-Cloud-31-20200401.0 compose check report

2020-04-01 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 1/1 (x86_64) -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/check-compose ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Fedora-IoT-32-20200401.0 compose check report

2020-04-01 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-IoT-32-20200328.0): ID: 563097 Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso base_services_start URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/563097 Passed openQA tests: 7/8 (x86_64) Installed

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 01. 04. 20 v 14:41 Michal Konecny napsal(a): > > > On 01/04/2020 10:53, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> >> >> Dne 01. 04. 20 v 10:37 Michal Konecny napsal(a): >>> >>> >>> On 31/03/2020 20:53, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:40:55PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: ...snip... >

Re: Heads-up: RPM 4.16 alpha coming to rawhide

2020-04-01 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 3/31/20 8:24 PM, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 6:43 AM Panu Matilainen wrote: Based on rpm-specs-latest.tar.xz from this morning, there are thirtysome packages relying on this behavior, which will need fixing to be buildable with 4.16. Is there a list of those thirty

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Michal Konecny
On 01/04/2020 10:53, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 01. 04. 20 v 10:37 Michal Konecny napsal(a): On 31/03/2020 20:53, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:40:55PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: ...snip... Because of switching costs, this is likely to prevent us from going back to Pagure

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Clement Verna
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 14:16, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 11:49:41AM +0200, Clement Verna wrote: > >There is also an historical taste to write in house applications for > >things that don't really seems critical to the Fedora Project, for > example > >do we

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-01 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 01. 04. 20 10:53, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:31:38AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: I sent out the V2 version of the Change on Friday and then promptly managed to injure myself and be away from email until today. I've read through the email threads again

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 8:02 PM Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 2:37 AM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:38 PM Chris Murphy > wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 5:56 AM Leigh Griffin > wrote: > >> > > >> > We haven't ironed out the full

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 6:52 AM Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: > > Le mercredi 01 avril 2020 à 11:30 +0100, Leigh Griffin a écrit : > > > > To distill it down: > > > > - Gitlab has more features that are needed right now for our > > stakeholder group > > - Gitlab has an entire company dedicated

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Panu Matilainen" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 6:22:39 AM > Subject: Re: CPE Git Forge Decision > > > I also appreciate that as a community developing our own solutions is > > something important and something that

Re: Heads-up: RPM 4.16 alpha coming to rawhide

2020-04-01 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 4/1/20 4:24 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:11 AM Panu Matilainen wrote: On 3/31/20 3:34 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 8:10 AM Panu Matilainen wrote: It's that time of year again... as our RPM change proposals passed with flying colors in

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 01. 04. 20 v 14:33 Alex Scheel napsal(a): > - Original Message - >> From: "Panu Matilainen" >> To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 6:22:39 AM >> Subject: Re: CPE Git Forge Decision >> >>> I also appreciate that as a community developing our own

Re: Heads-up: RPM 4.16 alpha coming to rawhide

2020-04-01 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:11 AM Panu Matilainen wrote: > > On 3/31/20 3:34 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 8:10 AM Panu Matilainen wrote: > >> > >> It's that time of year again... as our RPM change proposals passed with > >> flying colors in yesterdays meeting, I'll hope

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Clement Verna
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 09:47, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On 3/31/20 8:44 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I understand there are practical resource considerations and so on > > here, but I still think this merits more high level and serious > > consideration. At the very least, if we have somehow

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 4/1/20 12:49 PM, Clement Verna wrote: On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 09:47, Panu Matilainen > wrote: On 3/31/20 8:44 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > I understand there are practical resource considerations and so on > here, but I still think this merits more

Re: silly question: finding root.log/build.log of FTBS F32 package (slim)

2020-04-01 Thread Richard Shaw
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:12 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 3/31/20 7:16 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > > > > It doesn't look like the spec can even be parsed... Something must be > > off. There are conditionals in the spec for Fedora 15 so that tells me > > the spec file is in major need of an

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 6:32 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 17:47 +0200, jkone...@redhat.com wrote: > > -- snip -- > > > As for Pagure itself, I think this is where we fundamentally > > > disagree. > > > I think it behooves us to own and provide an experience tailored for > >

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 6:31 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 01. 04. 20 10:53, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:31:38AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> I sent out the V2 version of the Change on Friday and then promptly > >> managed to injure myself and be away

Why is "local" insecure PATH element ?

2020-04-01 Thread Lukas Czerner
Hi, I've noticed some failures in automated tests in bodhi, specifically this one: { "arch" : "x86_64", "code" : "SuspiciousPath", "context" : { "excerpt" : [ "PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin" ],

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 08:16, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 11:49:41AM +0200, Clement Verna wrote: > >There is also an historical taste to write in house applications for > >things that don't really seems critical to the Fedora Project, for > example > >do we

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Clement Verna [01/04/2020 15:04] : > > What does NIH stands for ? Not invented here (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_invented_here for the gory details) Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Solomon Peachy
On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 03:04:57PM +0200, Clement Verna wrote: > What does NIH stands for ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_invented_here - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Springs, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine

Fedora-IoT-33-20200401.0 compose check report

2020-04-01 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Iot dvd x86_64 Iot dvd aarch64 Failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-IoT-33-20200329.0): ID: 562769 Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso base_services_start URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/562769 Soft failed openQA

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread clime
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 10:54, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Dne 01. 04. 20 v 10:37 Michal Konecny napsal(a): > > > > On 31/03/2020 20:53, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:40:55PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > ...snip... > > Because of switching costs, this is likely to prevent us

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 7:44 PM Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:45 AM Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 13:08 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:48:55AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > > > Some failure of process or

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-01 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 12:30:13PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 01. 04. 20 10:53, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:31:38AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >>I sent out the V2 version of the Change on Friday and then promptly > >>managed to injure myself and be

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le mercredi 01 avril 2020 à 11:30 +0100, Leigh Griffin a écrit : > > To distill it down: > > - Gitlab has more features that are needed right now for our > stakeholder group > - Gitlab has an entire company dedicated to roadmap features, we do > not. Unfortunately, Gitlab’s roadmap is also

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-01 Thread Pavel Valena
- Original Message - > From: "Vít Ondruch" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 10:19:08 AM > Subject: Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose > V3 > > So although this update clarifies some part, we have not moved anywhere: >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 11:49:41AM +0200, Clement Verna wrote: >There is also an historical taste to write in house applications for >things that don't really seems critical to the Fedora Project, for example >do we really need a custom calendar application ? or election application >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 8:34 AM Alex Scheel wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Panu Matilainen" > > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 6:22:39 AM > > Subject: Re: CPE Git Forge Decision > > > > > > I also appreciate that as a community developing

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 01. 04. 20 v 12:37 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): > On 01. 04. 20 10:53, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> >> Dne 01. 04. 20 v 10:37 Michal Konecny napsal(a): >>> >>> >>> On 31/03/2020 20:53, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:40:55PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: ...snip... > Because

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Petr Kubat
On 3/31/20 8:59 PM, Clement Verna wrote: On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 14:57, Neal Gompa > wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 7:10 AM Clement Verna mailto:cve...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote: > > I just want to give a bit of insight from someone who is working

Re: Heads-up: RPM 4.16 alpha coming to rawhide

2020-04-01 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 3/31/20 7:45 PM, Björn Persson wrote: Panu Matilainen wrote: new expression features (in spec %if and macros) including but not limited to ternary operator (eg %[1==0?"yes":"no"]) For dependencies I'm told that the syntax is if else . So the syntax for conditional expressions is

Re: Heads-up: RPM 4.16 alpha coming to rawhide

2020-04-01 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 3/31/20 3:34 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 8:10 AM Panu Matilainen wrote: It's that time of year again... as our RPM change proposals passed with flying colors in yesterdays meeting, I'll hope to land RPM 4.16 alpha in rawhide later today or tomorrow by latest.

Re: Heads-up: RPM 4.16 alpha coming to rawhide

2020-04-01 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 31. 03. 20 v 8:26 Panu Matilainen napsal(a): > # rpmdb --rebuilddb I always wanted to ask: how the rebuilddb works? The man page states that rpmdb rebuilds db from package headers. Where are those headers stored? -- Miroslav Suchy, RHCA Red Hat, Associate Manager ABRT/Copr, #brno,

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Clement Verna
On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 22:41, Robbie Harwood wrote: > Clement Verna writes: > > > Neal Gompa wrote: > >> Clement Verna wrote: > >> > >> As for Pagure itself, I think this is where we fundamentally > >> disagree. I think it behooves us to own and provide an experience > >> tailored for our

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 01. 04. 20 v 8:42 Clement Verna napsal(a): > > > On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 22:41, Robbie Harwood > wrote: > > Clement Verna > writes: > > > Neal Gompa mailto:ngomp...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> Clement Verna

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
20/4/1 08:42(e)an, Clement Verna igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 22:41, Robbie Harwood > wrote: > > Clement Verna > writes: > > > Neal Gompa mailto:ngomp...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> Clement Verna

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 3/31/20 8:44 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: I understand there are practical resource considerations and so on here, but I still think this merits more high level and serious consideration. At the very least, if we have somehow reached a point where Red Hat is no longer willing to provide

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 2:47 PM Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > > > [...] Nor would it have helped with the SLA requirements and > > operational cost. [...] > > What reason is there to believe that a gitlab commercial SaaS might a > smaller operational cost? > I meant that in the sense of the time we

Re: Heads-up: RPM 4.16 alpha coming to rawhide

2020-04-01 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 01. 04. 20 9:11, Panu Matilainen wrote: Besides meta-packages, another potential use-case for meta (whether Requires or weak dependencies) is those just-in-case dependencies across sub-packages to ensure nobody runs weird combinations even though sonames might permit it. Often they are in

Re: Fedora 32 FTBFS packages to be orphaned in 1 week

2020-04-01 Thread Ian McInerney
> > > x11vnc hubbitus > It looks like this one just needs a new build kicked off for Rawhide and the Rawhide spec merged into f32, since it was a GCC10 failure and it appears the spec has been fixed for rawhide since then. -Ian ___ devel

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-01 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 10:19:08AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: So although this update clarifies some part, we have not moved anywhere: ~~~ === Can we do this in a branch instead of in master? === This adds no value to the current approach where Red Hat maintainers would manually merge their

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
> [...] Nor would it have helped with the SLA requirements and > operational cost. [...] What reason is there to believe that a gitlab commercial SaaS might a smaller operational cost? - FChE ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Take over maintenance of Hugo package

2020-04-01 Thread W. Michael Petullo
I would like to co-maintain or take over the maintenance of our Hugo package. The package presently does not build, and thus it is at risk of being orphaned: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1799514 -- Mike :wq ___ devel mailing list --

Fedora-Rawhide-20200401.n.0 compose check report

2020-04-01 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Compose PASSES proposed Rawhide gating check! All required tests passed Failed openQA tests: 11/171 (x86_64), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20200330.n.1): ID: 563350 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso apps_startstop URL:

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2020-04-02 16:00 UTC)

2020-04-01 Thread James Antill
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2020-04-02 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. uitime): = Day: Thursday == 2020-04-02 09:00 PDT US/Pacific 2020-04-02

Re: Why is "local" insecure PATH element ?

2020-04-01 Thread Lukas Czerner
On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 04:10:02PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:58 PM Lukas Czerner wrote: > > > > On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 11:26:04AM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > On 4/1/20 4:27 AM, Lukas Czerner wrote: > > > > I've noticed some failures in automated tests in

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Paul Frields
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 7:03 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 6:52 AM Nicolas Mailhot via devel > wrote: > > > > Le mercredi 01 avril 2020 à 11:30 +0100, Leigh Griffin a écrit : > > > > > > To distill it down: > > > > > > - Gitlab has more features that are needed right now for our

Re: Why is "local" insecure PATH element ?

2020-04-01 Thread Lukas Czerner
On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 11:26:04AM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 4/1/20 4:27 AM, Lukas Czerner wrote: > > I've noticed some failures in automated tests in bodhi, specifically > > this one: > > > > { > > "arch" : "x86_64", > > "code" : "SuspiciousPath", > > "context"

Re: Self Introduction: Kevin Buettner

2020-04-01 Thread Sergio Durigan Junior
On Wednesday, April 01 2020, Dan Čermák wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > welcome to the pack! > > Kevin Buettner writes: > >> Hi, >> >> My name is Kevin Buettner. >> >> I've been involved in GDB development for over 20 years. I'm an >> (upstream) GDB global maintainer. I would like to become a >>

Re: Self Introduction: Kevin Buettner

2020-04-01 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 4:08 PM Sergio Durigan Junior wrote: > > On Wednesday, April 01 2020, Dan Čermák wrote: > > > Hi Kevin, > > > > welcome to the pack! > > > > Kevin Buettner writes: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> My name is Kevin Buettner. > >> > >> I've been involved in GDB development for over 20

Re: Why is "local" insecure PATH element ?

2020-04-01 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:58 PM Lukas Czerner wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 11:26:04AM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 4/1/20 4:27 AM, Lukas Czerner wrote: > > > I've noticed some failures in automated tests in bodhi, specifically > > > this one: > > > > > > { > > > "arch" :

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-01 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 01. 04. 20 21:55, Stephen Gallagher wrote: Well, Change Proposals aren't design documents. I would prefer to change the document to read more like "This will need to be implemented in such a way that contents of the ELN repository would be preferred by the software management tools over the

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-01 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 03:55:19PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:24 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 11:40:49AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 6:46 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > > wrote: > > >

Re: Why is "local" insecure PATH element ?

2020-04-01 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 09:57:25PM +0200, Lukas Czerner wrote: > On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 11:26:04AM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 4/1/20 4:27 AM, Lukas Czerner wrote: > > > I've noticed some failures in automated tests in bodhi, specifically > > > this one: > > > > > > { > > >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 01. 04. 20 v 15:34 Neal Gompa napsal(a): > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 9:26 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: >> >> Dne 01. 04. 20 v 14:33 Alex Scheel napsal(a): >>> - Original Message - From: "Panu Matilainen" To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 6:22:39

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2020-04-01 at 11:49 +0200, Clement Verna wrote: > On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 09:47, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > > On 3/31/20 8:44 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > I understand there are practical resource considerations and so on > > > here, but I still think this merits more high level

[EPEL-devel] Re: fop for epel 8

2020-04-01 Thread Tim Orling
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 6:21 AM Troy Dawson wrote: > Packages in the EPEL-8 repository are volunteered by Fedora packagers > via requests by interested users. > If a package you are looking for is not there, please look at >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 12:52:00PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: > At heart, Fedora is a tooling project. It’s a collective of people that > chose to use a specific integration toolchain. Anything involved in > creating Fedora packages cuts deep into the project core. (unlike, say, >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 02:15:05PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > Let's be aware that Fedora Infra's job hasn't been "Building a linux distro" > since it's inception, for a long time its goal was much closer to "building > and > supporting the *community* that builds the linux distro". > If

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2020-04-01 at 06:11 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 12:39:21 +0200, > Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Bruno Wolff, III: > > > > > RHEL is a special case, as CENTOS provides a free drop in replacement > > > and switching from CENTOS to Fedora shouldn't be much work.

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2020-04-01 at 08:33 -0400, Alex Scheel wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: "Panu Matilainen" > > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 6:22:39 AM > > Subject: Re: CPE Git Forge Decision > > > > > I also appreciate that as a community developing

Re: Why is "local" insecure PATH element ?

2020-04-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/1/20 4:27 AM, Lukas Czerner wrote: I've noticed some failures in automated tests in bodhi, specifically this one: { "arch" : "x86_64", "code" : "SuspiciousPath", "context" : { "excerpt" : [

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Felix Schwarz
Am 01.04.20 um 08:42 schrieb Clement Verna: > I think this feeling comes from the mixing of git forge and dist-git use case > that you have pointed out. That seems to be the core of all the talk about "feature gaps" - obviously pagure is not nearly as advanced as gitlab/github when you want "some

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-01 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 6:46 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 12:30:13PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 01. 04. 20 10:53, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > >On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:31:38AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > >>I sent out the V2 version

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-01 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 10:02 AM David Cantrell wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 10:19:08AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > >So although this update clarifies some part, we have not moved anywhere: > > > > > >~~~ > > > >=== Can we do this in a branch instead of in master? === > > > >This adds no

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le mercredi 01 avril 2020 à 12:15 -0400, Matthew Miller a écrit : > > I understand the sentiment but would like to tweak it a bit. Rather > than a > tooling project, Fedora is an _integration_ project. We bring > together all > of this software in the world and create polished solutions for >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2020-04-01 at 15:08 +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 2:47 PM Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > > > > [...] Nor would it have helped with the SLA requirements and > > > operational cost. [...] > > > > What reason is there to believe that a gitlab commercial SaaS might a > >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 11:51:01AM +0200, clime wrote: > On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 10:54, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Do you mean https://github.com/fedora-infra/pkgdb2/ ? :) No. > This is just hilarious, so after going all pagure for dist-git and > making it all work, we will now go back to pkgdb,

Re: ocaml-zip update

2020-04-01 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 10:49:40AM -0600, Jerry James wrote: > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 10:44 AM Jerry James wrote: > > If I build in mock, I still get the resolvable dependencies. If I add > > --enablerepo=local, I get the unresolvable dependencies, so whatever > > changed has gone into Rawhide

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-01 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 11:40:49AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 6:46 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 12:30:13PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > On 01. 04. 20 10:53, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > >On Tue, Mar 31, 2020

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 1:47 AM Panu Matilainen wrote: > > On 3/31/20 8:44 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I understand there are practical resource considerations and so on > > here, but I still think this merits more high level and serious > > consideration. At the very least, if we have

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-01 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 01. 04. 20 v 16:01 David Cantrell napsal(a): > On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 10:19:08AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> So although this update clarifies some part, we have not moved anywhere: >> >> >> ~~~ >> >> === Can we do this in a branch instead of in master? === >> >> This adds no value to the

Re: silly question: finding root.log/build.log of FTBS F32 package (slim)

2020-04-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/1/20 4:53 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:12 PM Samuel Sieb > wrote: On 3/31/20 7:16 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > > It doesn't look like the spec can even be parsed... Something must be > off. There are conditionals in the spec

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Mark libdb as deprecated

2020-04-01 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:30:37AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Libdb_deprecated > > == Summary == > This change should inform maintainers and developers about effort to > remove libdb in future. > > == Owner == > * Name: [[User:fjanus|Filip Januš]] > *

Re: Heads-up: RPM 4.16 alpha coming to rawhide

2020-04-01 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
This is _only_ going into Rawhide / F33? It looks like the change to the new OCaml dependency generator will require a complete rebuild of all OCaml packages. https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/commit/a6fe37c39b39acbcbd014dd1e6d5653ff84254a1

Self Introduction: Kevin Buettner

2020-04-01 Thread Kevin Buettner
Hi, My name is Kevin Buettner. I've been involved in GDB development for over 20 years. I'm an (upstream) GDB global maintainer. I would like to become a co-maintainer of the GDB package for the Fedora project. In order to come up to speed on what Fedora package maintenance is about, I've

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-01 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:24 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 11:40:49AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 6:46 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 12:30:13PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > On

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
> > [...] Nor would it have helped with the SLA requirements and > > operational cost. [...] > What reason is there to believe that a gitlab commercial SaaS > might a smaller operational cost? > I meant that in the sense of the time we invest in it to develop > features, fix

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 14:22 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 17:06 -0400, Paul Frields wrote: > > > Sure. I tend to think of these as 'upstream projects' that we (Fedora) > > > consume as a downstream. Project hosting has always been a kinda > > > optional bolt-on, I think;

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