On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.dewrote:
In fact, systemd offers quite a number security features to secure your
services wich can be easily used to enhance local security. I'll
probably blog about this soonishly, but there's a lot of nice stuff in
there.
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Alexander Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.comwrote:
I want to add one more POV - not every database is constantly-used. Example
usage is Amarok using mysql database and I really want mysql to not be
started
until I start Amarok. Not that this is very common usage
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Jef Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Alexander Kurtakov
akurt...@redhat.comwrote:
I want to add one more POV - not every database is constantly-used.
Example
usage is Amarok using mysql database and I really want mysql
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Przemek Klosowski
przemek.klosow...@nist.gov wrote:
I feel your pain; a lot of perfectly good lab equipment has floppies
too, but whenever practical, I'd recommend a USB floppy drive emulator
from ipcas or http://www.rioc.us/ufr-usb-floppy-replacement.php or
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Przemek Klosowski
przemek.klosow...@nist.gov wrote:
They connect to the floppy cable and look like a floppy drive.
Bah, I'd think you'd want to go the other way if you could get an external
usb based floppy reader which is autodetected on the usb bus.
2011/8/30 Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz
I hope no software is still doing this - that was idiotic 10 years
ago, let alone now. (The purpose of the seek is to detect drives that
can support only double density, i.e. 360K, 5.25 disks, not high
density, i.e. 1.2M disks. It doesn't do anything
2011/8/30 Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz
The seek is there to detect the double-density _drive_ that was last
shipped in PC XT: PC AT already had a high-density drive. Wikipedia
tells me that the seek is there to detect hardware that became
obsolete in 1984.
you take the fun out of
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
Well, yes, that parallel came up in my mind too, but really, the two
aren't particularly similar. I don't think there's any intent to
obfuscate in the case of the glibc spec, it's simply done the way that
seemed
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.comwrote:
In some cases, expectations may be off which means we need to market
our deliverables better. In other cases, they may be looking for a
better way to get attention to rawhide issues when everyone else is
focused on
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote:
The kernel has undergone more updates than systemd ... all for very
good reasons - making it better and solving problems. Sure the same
would apply to systemd.
We also go to some lengths to make sure that there is a
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
Michal's numbers look pretty damning, and I find it remarkable that the
systemd advocates seem to have managed not to read them, let alone admit
that they suggest something's seriously wrong.
Michal's numbers look intriguing.
Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Ok, I made four series of tests:
- start/stop an old init script
- start/stop an old init script with dropping caches - should simulate
system booting
- start/stop service file
- start/stop service file with dropping caches
Just to be clear.
This is done on an F15
2011/9/14 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com
Exactly. F15, PostgreSQL 9.0 and just service file from PostgreSQL
9.1. Root filesystem and database are on SSD and Ext4.
Okay... brace yourself.
I just ran this test on my non-SSD ext4 based F15 system and I get the
opposite result on
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Doug Ledford dledf...@redhat.com wrote:
See my above comment about cross-compilers. There are certainly use
cases for having the tool install and live on the host. As for
security, if you assume that the host is locked down tight with no
running services
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.comwrote:
That's nonsense, sorry. Zif is quite capable of using the same
metadata as yum and performing the same function with the same set of
packages.
It's also capable of making different decisions? Isn't that your point?
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:10 AM, seth vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.orgwrote:
As a point of fact we added a depsolving plugin hook for
compare_providers over a year ago into the yum codebase.
Specifically so anyone could do fun and exciting additions to
compare_providers and/or request user
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.comwrote:
This is what I've come up with already:
https://github.com/hughsie/zif/tree/master/data/tests/transactions
Okay just to make sure I understand what the manifest info is
local: the package installed
remote: the
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.comwrote:
The transactions are all taken in spirit from real problems, but made
as simple as possible. The repodata is all cut down to the bare
minimum.
Are you sure you didn't cut it down so much that you are hiding problems
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Jef Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.comwrote:
The transactions are all taken in spirit from real problems, but made
as simple as possible. The repodata is all cut down to the bare
minimum
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.comwrote:
The transactions are all taken in spirit from real problems, but made
as simple as possible. The repodata is all cut down to the bare
minimum.
Uhm your repomd.xml in your repodata directory in git appears to have the
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.comwrote:
I'm assuming you've done this already. are there particular test
transactions where yum comes up with a different solution than zif using
your cutdown repodata that you would like to draw my attention to?
No, I've
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.comwrote:
On 16 September 2011 20:46, Jef Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com wrote:
Are you sure you didn't cut it down so much that you are hiding problems
that your depsolving rules don't solve well? Did you throw out
someone's
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Jef Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com wrote:
But putting that aside for a minute. I'm interested in asking zif a series
of more complicated real world Fedora repository questions to get a better
understanding how your chosen scoring rules currently work in practise
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.atwrote:
Richard Hughes wrote:
Naa, try the version of zif in F16, or grab the latest upstream SRPM
and rebuild it for f15 from here:
http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/fedora/15/SRPMS/
I submitted a Koji scratch
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Doug Ledford dledf...@redhat.com wrote:
Like I said, not true. The grub package is designed to be updateable
without requiring an mbr reinstall. What's more is I had a look at the
stage1.[hS] files in the grub shipped in FC-1 and RHEL-5, and just like I
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote:
Can you open a ticket on Red Hat bugzilla please, component zif and
attach the output of zif install paprefs -v
I've not tested zif on F15 in a lng time and it's probably just a
trivial bug. Thanks.
Filed : Bug
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.atwrote:
I hope we can get all the annoyances in zif sorted out soon.
Kevin, were you able to reproduce my problem with the official adobe
repository? I'm still not sure if my multiple issues with zif depsolving
are a problem
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.atwrote:
Jef Spaleta wrote:
Kevin, were you able to reproduce my problem with the official adobe
repository?
To be honest, I haven't tried it, I've been busy enough filing the bugs for
the issues I found myself
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.atwrote:
(And besides, your example is about the worst you could pick, since if
somebody is skilled enough with package management to remove the PackageKit
frontend, surely he or she knows what to do if zif wants to pick the
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Doug Ledford dledf...@redhat.com wrote:
- Original Message -
I'm
just trying to test how well zif handles the multple provider case
and understand how it makes the judgment on what is installed.
There's probably a pretty strong argument to be made
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Tomasz Torcz to...@pipebreaker.pl wrote:
Or
http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gnome-settings-daemon/branches/gnome-2-24/plugins/xsettings/gsd-xsettings-manager.c?view=markup#249
(line 249)?
I'm not sure that's relevant for the current codebase. But even so if
you
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:32 PM, JB jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote:
Let me append The Blame Game.
# systemd-analyze blame
32983ms livesys.service
22828ms NetworkManager.service
That timing for NM is so vastly different than what I'm seeing on my
installed F15 system. I am intrigued.
-jef
--
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:32 PM, JB jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote:
13837ms udev-settle.service
11392ms plymouth-start.service
if you use the plot option instead of blame option and produce the svg
of the service timing you get a better feel for what Lennart was
talking about with regard to the
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
So essentially all that's going on here is 'wait for udev to be done',
which is a fairly sensible prerequisite for all manner of other bits of
boot.
The reasons why udev takes a while to be 'done' are more interesting
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:22 AM, JB jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote:
Here it is.
No..that's not it.. that is the starting point necessary to understand
the udev differences between the two systems. It is not a dissection.
To understand what is happening with udev across those systems you
have to
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Kay Sievers kay.siev...@vrfy.org wrote:
There is no general rule, but anything that calls 'udevadm settle' is
suspicious and should be carefully checked if it does not rely on
assumptions which just bet on luck and can't reliably work in hotplug
setups.
Kay,
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
Obviously you embed radar in every projector.
Quite possible to do with existing off the shelf ultrasonic or diode
laser telemetry being used for DYI robotic range finding. In fact you
can get ones that use i2c for data
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:43 PM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
There are people that use their keys for more than one machine. You
people make it sound like it is so easy to change keys.
It is *NOT* PERIOD.
Well if fedora infrastructure asked us to use gpg keys for ssh auth,
and we all
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote:
I've looked a little at monkeysphere this morning and it looks
interesting. It'd be nice if at least the FI folks could publish the
host keys for the Fedora systems using monkeysphere. I plan on giving
monkeysphere a good
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:56 AM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 09:19:19PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote:
Thanks Jussi. For your and other contributors' reference, we have a
[[Vacation]] wiki page where this information can be added as well. I
took the
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Nicolas Mailhot
nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote:
No, it's an attempt to explain a general concept and not to point the
finger at anyone. Because as soon as you provide specifics, someone will
feel offended, get defensive, and refuse to listen to the general
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Nicolas Mailhot
nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote:
On anything more complex a new connexion will usually be established in
addition to the existing ones, and will have a specific pre-set
configuration. For example, a port can be dedicated to guest systems, or
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Nicolas Mailhot
nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote:
The problem is mostly integration with networked apps, which are either
of the 'network can be up or not, if it's up always do foo' kind, or the
'can manage multiple networks, but expects all of them to exist at
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
Shipping bug-free software is the job of maintainers. It's reasonable to
ask a reporter to take an issue upstream if you feel that that'll result
in the bug being fixed faster, but there's no reason to mandate that and
Yikes.
I'll try real real hard to do this tonight after I get home if noone
beats me to it.
-jef
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote:
Not sure I have time to do a swap, but I need the following reviews done:
2011/11/22 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com:
What do people see as pros and cons continuing to use the current
package ownership model?
I can't speak for anyone else. But for me I'm more than willing to see
other contributors work with me to fix things in packages that I
own. I'll even
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
that is not the point
You are missing the point as well. Regardless of whether or not you
have a valid gripe about rpmfusion's volunteer effort... this is
absolutely not the place to voice your concerns. It is very
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
Ugh. Shall I unpush those from going stable then until this is figured?
Sorry about that...
I am a firm believer in the Pottery Barn rule. You break it you buy it.
If you feel this is important enough of a security fix to
It seems there is a new upstream for revelation as of March this year.
I'll poke at them a little bit to see what's going on. It's been a
while since there has been an active upstream for this codebase.
Here's a thought... what's Debian's policy concerning security issues
is packages with a
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 10:56 -0800, Jef Spaleta wrote:
It seems there is a new upstream for revelation as of March this year.
I'll poke at them a little bit to see what's going on. It's been a
while since there has
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Jef Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 10:56 -0800, Jef Spaleta wrote:
It seems there is a new upstream for revelation as of March this year.
I'll poke at them
So yeah... revelation is back to being entirely noarch python again.
Is bouncing a package from arch to noarch as an update going to cause
problems?
-jef
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 11:14 -0800, Jef Spaleta wrote:
On Fri
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
Well, not so much exit as shutdown. It seems to frequently throw an
exception of some kind on shutdown, which seems to block up the shutdown
process until you dismiss the error dialog. Maybe it's Just Me (TM)
I poked a little bit and I got quickly up and running partially on an
F16 system.
I say partially because I can't use all the exposed commands in the
ubuntu application template because some of the commands aimed at
publication require a coherent debian system configuration to make a
local .deb
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
johan...@gmail.com wrote:
Again anything that gets handed out at various events should be considered
release blockers since the quality of that product reflects back at us as a
community thus if an relevant SIG cannot cover it's own release
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 7:05 AM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:
Thats not true (and I've used tmpfs for tmp for years, so I'm speaking
from experience)— tmpfs is backed by swap on demand. Just add the
space that you would have used for /tmp to your swap.
I am _very_ concerned about
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:
Tmpfs volumes have a size set as a mount option. The default is half
the physical ram (not physical ram plus swap). You can change the size
with a remount. When its full, its full, like any other filesystem
Okay that
at 12:17 PM, Tom London seli...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Jef Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com wrote:
Rawhide target scratch build of the upstream tree with the fix.
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=4191839
I have done a local build and test on an F16
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Jef Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com wrote:
Users with existing revelation configurations can blow away
.gconf/apps/revelation and relogin to avoid the errors and reconfig
revelation in the process. But clearly that is not optimal. If there
is a packaging mechanism
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Tom London seli...@gmail.com wrote:
Haven't checked the crypto changes, but I do notice this spew when I
try 'Edit-Preferences':
Okay I think I have the GConf scriptlets fixed:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=4191873
On local testing.
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Pierre-Yves Chibon pin...@pingoured.fr wrote:
I had a number of problem with guake and its gconf schema, so after
discussion here I added this to the spec file:
%posttrans
killall -HUP gconfd-2 /dev/null || :
That pretty much forces gconf to reload.
Uhm
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Jan Kratochvil
jan.kratoch...@redhat.com wrote:
That prelink is being run on battery I repeat is a bug of cron.
I had a script to disable such jobs automatically, I do it by hand nowadays.
Generally speaking do we have a cron-like service that knows how to
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote:
A means for authenticating a filesystem domain socket's peer. Receive the
peer's credentials, then check /proc/pid/exe and /proc/self/exe. If they're
same, the daemon is talking to another instance of itself.
The
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Scott Schmit i.g...@comcast.net wrote:
And what's the pathname of a deleted file? Like it or not, that's a real
possibility (normal as opposed to the result of an error condition or
a bug), even if it's possibly not typical.
[details snipped]
It gives you your
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Jussi Lehtola
jussileht...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:49:15 +0200
Antonio Trande anto.tra...@gmail.com wrote:
2012/7/19 Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ) ngomp...@gmail.com
This morning, I woke up to the news that a group of developers have
managed
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Nelson Marques nmo.marq...@gmail.com wrote:
Are you ready to accept patches on GTK+ and potentially on Xorg that
were declined from upstream? This should be your initial thoughts!
Can you point me to the relevant discussion for any critical
functionality
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Nelson Marques nmo.marq...@gmail.com wrote:
I've asked Ken to provide me some additional info on this; I will mail
tomorrow or during the weekend the links to this list.
Let's get an accurate picture of what is actually left for vendor
patches before we decide
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Nelson Marques nmo.marq...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not involved in this project anyway;
If you can put me into direct contact with someone who is actively
involved I'd be more than happy to discuss a potential roadmap towards
a submittable set of packages, either
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
Note for the record - I'm perfectly willing to give up my maintainership
of the few packages I own from my old abortive effort to package Unity.
I have bamf, libindicator and probably one or two others I forgot about.
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
He seems to be talking about a web interface that lets you edit specs
and submit builds - some kind of basic text editor webapp hooked up to
the spec repository, I guess.
I don't know if we need a webapp. But some
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Jonathan Underwood
jonathan.underw...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Weirdly I am seeing that mock (1.1.18 on a rhel 6 machine) is now
deleting the logs if a package rebuilds successfully. The logs are not
deleted if the package fails to complete building. I've looked at
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 11:12 AM, seth vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Bandwidth is the big concern for the end user here and then the other
issue is - is all of this worth it for building pkgs? I don't think it
is, personally, pkg building is not that huge of a hit, afaict to
getting
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
nonsense
they HAD the manpower to do this rebuilds for so.114 to so.115
so WTF why they jumping to a outdated version instead so.119?
doing such nonsense and after that whine about to few manpower
is a little bit
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:13 AM, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote:
So how did Arch Linux cope with that particular set of changes? I
suppose Arch Linux collapsed never to recover? I think not!
It would behoove the argument you are making if you could write up the
summary of how Arch
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Nathanael Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca wrote:
So far I've seen lots of discussion about can we do it, but no proposal nor
any real set of why it would be better. Does it reduce packaging work? Does
it do X Y Z? Why would I *want* a rolling release?
So far I'm not
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:
Hardware specific regressions aren't that rare. I have run into them
several times. I have had problems with disk controllers, USB flash
drives and video cards. Sometimes there are work arounds (e.g. using
nomodeset or
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Lars Seipel lars.sei...@googlemail.com wrote:
The last I heard from the Arch packaging efforts was that Unity won't be an
officially supported package until it no longer depends on non-upstream
patches
to GTK+ and friends.
The same seems to be true for
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
Jef Spaleta wrote:
required patches to gtk and core gnome components that are not
acceptable to upstream are basically a non-starter.
Well, we could do what openSUSE did and just ship this in an unofficial repo
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
if you finally want have /bin as symlink forever this whole
change is only wasted time and makes no sense at all
If you haven't read the new summary write-up on the benefits of the
/user feature that I think you would
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Noah Hall noah.h...@fuduntu.org wrote:
Fuduntu Dev here.
One question for you with your Fuduntu Dev hat on.
Is Fuduntu is still using a Gnome 2 derived desktop experience?
Assuming that is true. And please correct me if it is not. Can you
point me to any
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, darrell pfeifer darrel...@gmail.com wrote:
If you continue to repeat the eating babies myth then it will become
self-fulfilling.
I would humbly suggest that use of future tense is that sentence is
overly optimistic and is misleading. I think that sentence above
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
The objectives of the Alpha release are to:
Publicly release installable media versions of a feature complete
test release
Test accepted features of Fedora 17
Identify as many F17Beta blocker bugs as
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 12:49 -0900, Jef Spaleta wrote:
And in this scope. Inability to upgrade would be such a Beta blocker,
methinks.
Sure. But the above doesn't mean that beta and final blockers should be
*fixed
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
Personally, I think f16 was a very stable boring release.
There were rough spots, but there always are.
I'm still pretty sure we are doing better introducing subsystem
transitions now than the pain of the initial udev transition
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
F15 was the first Linux i saw where reboot did not
work until you typed kill 1 while praying!
Can you point me to a bug report from you or anyone else that has been
confirmed by at least one other person?
I personally
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Dan Williams d...@redhat.com wrote:
In any case, badmouthing systemd for an upgrade bug where it actually
works fine *when you're really running F15* doesn't seem right. I
wouldn't have had this problem if it'd installed off the Live CD or done
a fresh
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
no i can not because it is a one-shot thing to do yum distro-sync and so i
had no time for a bugrport while other more important things like mysqld were
horrible broken
Let me strongly suggest, that unfiled problems
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been yum upgrading since FC1. I didn't see that. I was also
running a mysql server.
Maybe you should file a bug report noting that yum upgrade worked for
you. I personally think that is a bug. unsupported workflows
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com wrote:
Dammit. I knew I was doing something wrong. I'd better set those
machines on fire.
youtube video or it didnt happen.
-jef
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On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 19:02 +0100, Michal Schmidt wrote:
On 02/10/2012 07:00 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
The one-time case - 'the first time you go from systemd X to systemd Y,
the system won't shut down cleanly' -
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Scott Doty sc...@ponzo.net wrote:
Sez who?
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Server
I don't see the word production on that page.
I can imagine the existence of non-production servers which would
not invalidate anything said on that page.
-jefI'm not even
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
What is the exact symptoms encapsulated in not shutdown cleanly?
can not connect to systembus or some connection refused
somewhat in this direction
apologizes to the list. I meant to ask Adam that in private email,
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
Tim Waugh (twa...@redhat.com) said:
For a plain network printer, where the printer might not be able to
accept the job while it's busy processing others, you might have to
queue the job and retry it later. So if you are
2012/3/8 Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz:
The lazy answer to both is fail, or not, the same way as cups
currently fails, or not (in fact, could the session printing service
simply be cups that treats the system instance as another remote
server?).
If we were looking for the lazy answer, we'd
2012/3/8 Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz:
Right... I just wanted to make sure that any potential work on user
session printing is not discouraged by adding requirements that are
not currently satisfied with the system daemon.
Of course. That wasn't meant as stop energy. If those situations have
a
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 12:46 AM, Tim Waugh twa...@redhat.com wrote:
Yes, exactly, and that is what I'm suggesting. For printing entirely in
the user session it is a case of using an alternative to using CUPS
running on the local machine, so that means:
a) no filters or drivers; the job
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
i notice this since upgraded to Fedora 16 on mostly all
virtual machines while i have never seeen this with F15
how to track down and for which component file a bugreport?
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Jef Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
i notice this since upgraded to Fedora 16 on mostly all
virtual machines while i have never seeen this with F15
how to track down and for which
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
the document above is hughe outdated
Oh well. Nevermind then. Good luck correcting your configs
-jef
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On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Nathanael D. Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca wrote:
How bout adding/changing the icon for installing? Can we not include some
text in the icon? Install Fedora somehow??
Actually... would it make sense to force a notification event about
the install option on live CD
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