Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! "Update.2 Mini-Conference"

2008-03-21 Thread NoiseEHC
Could somebody answer these questions? 1. What is the status of zlib -> lzo transition in jffs2? 2. What is the status of the new X architecture? (The name is DRM but I am not sure.) 3. What is the status of the shared page python stuff? Will the reference count problem will be solved in Python 3

Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! "Update.2 Mini-Conference"

2008-03-21 Thread NoiseEHC
-February/43.html Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 6:50 PM, NoiseEHC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Could somebody answer these questions? >> 1. What is the status of zlib -> lzo transition in jffs2? >> 2. What is the status of the new X arc

Re: Activity Launch Notification

2008-04-15 Thread NoiseEHC
> We've recognized that accidental activation of the Frame is a problem, > but haven't had time to implement any of the proposed changes. The > simplest change we hope to add is a tiny delay, to prevent accidental > activation when attempting to reach a button or element near the > corners. Even

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

2008-04-23 Thread NoiseEHC
Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 05:37:08PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: > >> I certainly don't know enough about Windows to be able to answer your >> question from the technical perspective. >> > > As a former Windows developer (using both proprietary APIs and Free > APIs), I

Re: Sugar on Windows

2008-04-24 Thread NoiseEHC
You seem to miss this: >> Depending how you define "Sugar"... See? >> I don't want to waste too much time discussing Sugar on Windows. But >> stating this is a 1-man effort is ridiculous - unless you are >> speaking of emulating a whole Linux installation. >> >> I was talking about to po

Re: Sugar on Windows

2008-04-24 Thread NoiseEHC
I sense a little misunderstanding here, probably because my English was not too clear. In the Windows world, the "shell" means explorer.exe which draws the desktop/start menu/folders. Replacing this with the Sugar zoom interface and frame is a little bit silly idea. However porting sugar apps t

Re: A technical assessment of porting "Sugar" to Windows.

2008-04-25 Thread NoiseEHC
You mean everything that actually calls into GDI. The kernel is fully thread safe and preemptive on NT. Since as I know GTK is thread affine as well, probably it is not a problem. Jeffrey Kesselman wrote: > This may be obviosu to everyone, but just a note if it isnt > > I have a lot of experi

Re: A technical assessment of porting "Sugar" to Windows.

2008-04-25 Thread NoiseEHC
Thanks for providing this summary! What is not clear to me is whether we are talking about: 1. Windows on XO with Sugar 2. Sugar on Windows on any machine 3. Both Also not clear what advantage could any variation provide to OLPC so probably NN could be a little more concrete about Sugar on Window

Re: A technical assessment of porting "Sugar" to Windows.

2008-04-26 Thread NoiseEHC
I have just found this link: http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~driscoll/fuse-nt.pdf This is a report about a failed IFS-FUSE attempt. They ended with a loopback SMB server what should the Sugar windows port should follow IMHO. ps: The report contains the problems writing windows FSs. ___

Re: 15 computer science collegians looking for a project

2008-04-29 Thread NoiseEHC
Actually it is a funny proposal since without real XO machines it is a little bit hard to profile programs and since it seems that it is quite impossible nowadays to get a machine, they are out of luck. Exactly why does not OLPC just dump machines to developers like candy? Even if only 1% of pe

Re: 15 computer science collegians looking for a project

2008-04-29 Thread NoiseEHC
_an_XO > > Thanks, > > Tomeu > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I was perhaps under the mistaken impression that OLPC was dumping >> machines to developers like candy again after a hiatus due to a >> l

Re: 15 computer science collegians looking for a project

2008-04-29 Thread NoiseEHC
>> Okay, it seems that I extrapolated my attempt to the current situation. >> ~9 months ago I have applied for a physical machine (or for a login to a >> physical machine) since the databook missed a lot of information >> regarding assembly instruction scheduling on the Geode. I was told to >>

Re: 15 computer science collegians looking for a project

2008-04-29 Thread NoiseEHC
I am sorry but I cannot recall a message from you about this (can be eaten by the spam filter or simply lost?). I mean that you have always answered my questions about the video driver and similar thing (thanks again) just not those processor core questions so I supposed that it is not your are

Re: 15 computer science collegians looking for a project

2008-04-30 Thread NoiseEHC
On 29/04/08 17:41 +0200, NoiseEHC wrote: On this page http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Geode_LX I have named some instructions as "Synchronized ops" (in the MMX section). Are those real or did I mismeasured something? That section is very difficult to understand. I'm

Re: 15 computer science collegians looking for a project

2008-05-02 Thread NoiseEHC
> I still don't understand what you mean, but the clock timings that are > in the data sheet, are the same ones on my documentation. You would have > to find somebody more skilled then I to debate if they are correct or not. > > Okay, here are some exaples (intel notation): First, the 2 cycles

Re: 15 computer science collegians looking for a project

2008-05-05 Thread NoiseEHC
-29 at 07:04 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: > >> I was perhaps under the mistaken impression that OLPC was dumping >> machines to developers like candy again after a hiatus due to a >> logistical snafu. Hmm. >> >> -walter >> >> 2008/4/29 NoiseEHC <

Re: 15 computer science collegians looking for a project

2008-05-05 Thread NoiseEHC
if you request > quantities of laptops, it will probably be refused. > > SJ, Aaron, > Can you provide an overview of how the new system works? How > applications get reviewed and how often ship orders will be sent out? > How people get feedback on their request, etc? > &g

Re: 15 computer science collegians looking for a project

2008-05-05 Thread NoiseEHC
Edward Cherlin wrote: > On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:38 AM, NoiseEHC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I have registered on said page but when I click to my projects it goes >> to wiki.laptop.org and all I can see an empty page. Are those people >> over viewing

Re: 15 computer science collegians looking for a project

2008-05-06 Thread NoiseEHC
>> One of the textboxes is not too clear to me on the new project page. >> 1. Description of your experience, both with hardware and software. - >> Am I supposed to write about my work experience regarding the new >> project? > experience in general. Why are you the right person to do that proje

Re: 15 computer science collegians looking for a project

2008-05-07 Thread NoiseEHC
Okay, today I have checked whether my "projects" got moved to the wiki but now I can see only the second one (and it is not in the wiki either). Aaron Kaplan wrote: > > On May 5, 2008, at 8:38 PM, NoiseEHC wrote: > >> I have registered on said page but when I click to m

Re: XO-2 software plans

2008-05-25 Thread NoiseEHC
There was a thread about the X driver here: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2007-September/006565.html Because there were much more pressing things to do than rewriting the X driver by Bernardo this project stalled. However it is one of my project ideas on the developer program so hopefu

Need advice to upgrade

2008-06-11 Thread NoiseEHC
Hello, I have just received my XO via the Developers Program. The machine is working nicely, but there is a problem connecting to my wireless router (Belkin Pre-N F5D8230-4) which uses WPA-PSK with AES encription. The XO just asks for the password over and over again. The strange thing that co

Re: etoys implementation

2008-06-25 Thread NoiseEHC
>> There's also a warning at http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak that if you >> want to run eToys, you need to run a different version of Squeak than >> everybody else. >> > > *That* is Etoys. What is wrong with it? > Just out of curiosity: Exactly how is it different from vanilla squeak? (If

Re: etoys implementation

2008-06-25 Thread NoiseEHC
Thanks! > Why do you refer it to as "binary blob"? > > That was the first word jumped into my mind. All I know is that it is not in CVS or GIT so nothing serious. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/deve

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings & lists.

2008-07-02 Thread NoiseEHC
> > There are top-down decisions being made by a few people that drive the > direction of OLPC. These decisions are not waiting for consensus, and > they are made by a small number of people. I don't believe this is > going to change (at least not in the short term). > I, personally, do not car

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings & lists. (reply to).

2008-07-02 Thread NoiseEHC
el/?VARHELP=general/reply_goes_to_list > - Jim > > > > > On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 09:19 +0200, NoiseEHC wrote: > >>> There are top-down decisions being made by a few people that drive the >>> direction of OLPC. These decisions are no

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings & lists. (reply to).

2008-07-02 Thread NoiseEHC
> On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 17:47 +0200, NoiseEHC wrote: > >> 1. olpc games sets the reply-to >> > > Sounds like it should get fixed... > > >> 2. BTW this recommendation does not make my point wrong (eg that the >> current setting makes hard

Re: Home View appearance

2008-07-08 Thread NoiseEHC
Could we at least select the ring view by default? I see the free form view as unnecessary crap because the last thing I want is to reorder icons by using the touchpad. Did anybody actually try that exercise? Also the list view has a bug, that it does not have an XO icon which can be clicked to

Re: Home View appearance

2008-07-08 Thread NoiseEHC
the pdf in Read, close Read and click the button it switches back to Journal and not Browse. It should not treat Journal as an application. Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:37 AM, NoiseEHC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Could we at least select the ring view

Re: Home View appearance

2008-07-09 Thread NoiseEHC
>> Another problem is that the Activity button (the 4th zoom level) can >> select the Journal if that was the last active activity. It has an own >> button so I cannot see any reason why it has to be the way it is. It is >> an annoyance that when I download several things then go from Browse to >>

Re: Home View appearance

2008-07-09 Thread NoiseEHC
am not a Linux guru, can it be the Network Manager?) has a big race condition, or the wireless scanning logic has some bad heuristic. What is sure is that my XO can connect to the MIMO chipset 100% reliably. Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:55:25PM +0200, NoiseEHC wrote: I am

Re: LZO support

2008-07-14 Thread NoiseEHC
Currently I am profiling/rewriting the LZO decompression code. The speed result (from memory, not too reliable): LZO compression: ~9.5 MB/sec LZO compression ASM version: ~9.3 MB/sec LZO decompression: ~25MB/sec LZO decompression ASM version: ~40 MB/sec Here the ASM version is the version from the

Re: LZO support

2008-07-14 Thread NoiseEHC
C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 2:05 PM, NoiseEHC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Currently I am profiling/rewriting the LZO decompression code. >> > > Again, be warned that there's no guarantee we will ever use LZO > compress

Re: LZO support

2008-07-15 Thread NoiseEHC
>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:51:20PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:00 PM, NoiseEHC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I have a partially finished ZLIB decompression code as well. mstone >>

Re: LZO support

2008-07-20 Thread NoiseEHC
Okay, I have become a little more advanced lately, and was able to compile the kernel zlib and lzo in userspace (last year I gave up...). So here is the code (with results, the lib file is the compiled lzo 2.03): http://wiki.laptop.org/images/5/5b/Zlibtest5.tar.gz Since I did not find any assemb

Re: State of 8.2.0, July 21, 2008

2008-07-21 Thread NoiseEHC
> My changes from the last 2 weeks are now in joyride, leaving us 2mb over > target. > I slimmed down 2 more packages today (pam and xorg-x11-utils) which > should bring us to the target. > > We also need to get these package forks into Fedora. I filed a load of > RH bugzilla bugs about them today

Re: odd yum dependency issues in joyride

2008-07-25 Thread NoiseEHC
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > c. scott ananian wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:43 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > i've been slowly moving my g1g1 machine forward to joyride (from 656). > > > i had customized it quite a bit, and am trying to restore those changes. > > > i've got xfce

Re: odd yum dependency issues in joyride

2008-07-25 Thread NoiseEHC
I have just reflashed my XO since it failed to boot. Did a reflash with 703 then olpc-update --usb to 2181 then yum install gcc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > martin wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 06:33:08PM +0200, NoiseEHC wrote: > > > With 2181 this worked: > > >

Re: video bleeds through somewhat between sessions

2008-08-02 Thread NoiseEHC
It is the video chip's feature that it can display a video overlay over the RGB bitmap. The pixels where the overlay can be seen is defined by a colorkey (what was 0xFF00FF in the example), or the alpha component of the display RGB bitmap (not used on the XO since the change 16 bit bitmaps). Wh

Re: Test results on Joyride 2230?

2008-08-05 Thread NoiseEHC
I have downloaded it even before it was selected as a weekly stuff. Record-54 crashes the build (the machine freezes). I did not create a TRAC entry since my last TRAC entry did not receive any attention so I just did not care (actually I do not know what to expect). Just started the thing and s

Re: Test results on Joyride 2230?

2008-08-05 Thread NoiseEHC
not an option since in those cases an user level program can crash Linux which is unacceptable. http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7608 Morgan Collett wrote: > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 14:03, NoiseEHC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I have downloaded it even before it was selected

Re: Test results on Joyride 2230?

2008-08-05 Thread NoiseEHC
d before I will file this ticket, it may have been magically fixed :) Daniel Drake wrote: > On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 14:03 +0200, NoiseEHC wrote: > >> I have downloaded it even before it was selected as a weekly stuff. >> Record-54 crashes the build (the machine freezes). I did

Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-07 Thread NoiseEHC
Probably it would help if the linked pages would contain a link to the specified build's directory at http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/streams/joyride/build2263/devel_jffs2/ Just my 0.02$ Michael Stone wrote: > We are thrilled to announce a new test build, joyride-2230, valid until > Wednesd

Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-08 Thread NoiseEHC
2263 works for me. Something fixed the system crash made by Record I have experienced on 2230 (so I will not file a ticket for that). Speak cannot be started (the icon blinks for a long time and then the application stops starting). What started with 2263 is that when the system wakes the displa

Re: Datastore profiling

2008-08-13 Thread NoiseEHC
ve system i/o performance. >>> >> That looks interesting, but from my POV, would be better for Sugar >> performance if compression was disabled by default, and was mostly >> used just by pilgrim when creating the jffs2 image file. >> > > In July, Nois

Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2301!

2008-08-15 Thread NoiseEHC
It is back again, it is a blocker, please somebody really fix it! http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7608 I feel the touchpad very jumpy, it was not jumpy at all with 708. Since 2230 (if I remember) the software updater simply refused to update Scratch (it jumped back to the start of updating). With 2

Re: Wellington testers + Activities vs 8.2-759

2008-09-06 Thread NoiseEHC
> - Associating to an AP using WPA is extremely unreliable. Some > laptops do, some after a few tries, some never. Likely to be the > timing bug that has been discussed before. > > > There is another bug somewhere in the network stack. With my Belkin PreN router (MIMO chpset), every connectio

Re: build 8.2-760, Read activity and ebook mode - how to make them work together?

2008-09-18 Thread NoiseEHC
Probably it would be the right time for 9.1 to finally make Sugar usable from the keyboard? For example I did not see any activities using accelerators (Ctrl+Key or Alt+Key) or at least they are not showing it on the UI. This problem that cursor keys are lost is widespread. In some activities I

Re: build 8.2-760, Read activity and ebook mode - how to make them work together?

2008-09-18 Thread NoiseEHC
> Another possible option, for general use, which we've discussed in the > past is a palette dedicated to keyboard mappings, revealing a user > configurable set of actions. This would make it possible to see all > of the shortcuts for an activity in one consistent place, and even > allow the user

Re: build 8.2-760, Read activity and ebook mode - how to make them work together?

2008-09-22 Thread NoiseEHC
> In any case, I brought this idea less due to the customization idea, > and more due to the expressed desire to have a list of available > keyboard shortcuts. It sounded like you were proposing a system by > which they appeared all at once -- as hovering bubbles, perhaps? -- on > screen contextu

Re: Please help test our new best 8.2.0 candidate, 8.2-763!

2008-09-24 Thread NoiseEHC
I love it! I do not know who did this, but it seems that my WPA connection issues are gone. It connected automatically 2 times in a row, thank you! Now after updating from 760, on the first boot the software update came up, checked Activities' versions, and when I clicked that download and inst

Re: simple datastore replacement, take two

2008-09-26 Thread NoiseEHC
>> The Datastore can then provide two accessor functions: >> get_by_value(key) and get_by_reference(key). get_by_value() returns the >> contents of the file as a bytestring in memory. get_by_reference() >> returns the path to the metadata file, or another path linked (soft or >> hard) to that fi

5 sec boot

2008-10-03 Thread NoiseEHC
If you somehow missed it, there is possible to boot Linux in 5 seconds on an EeePC. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=s7NxCM8ryF8 Here is the paper: http://www.fenrus.org/plumbers_fastboot.ppt Could somebody explain me whether these results are applicable to the XO, and how far are we from it, plea

Re: 5 sec boot

2008-10-05 Thread NoiseEHC
> can you do the hash as you copy it? it should be pretty close to free at > that point (since the CPU is waiting for memory/flash access it can do the > hash calculationwhen it would otherwise be stalled) > > According to my measurements the GeodeLX can fetch a new cache line (32 bytes) eve

Re: 5 sec boot

2008-10-05 Thread NoiseEHC
> On Sun, 5 Oct 2008, NoiseEHC wrote: > >>> can you do the hash as you copy it? it should be pretty close to >>> free at that point (since the CPU is waiting for memory/flash access >>> it can do the hash calculationwhen it would otherwise be stalled) >>&g

Re: 5 sec boot

2008-10-05 Thread NoiseEHC
When I will finally have some time (currently I am working even on weekends) I will finish my half made zlib decompression code. Where is that Security hash's code? Mitch Bradley wrote: > > Memory to memory copy: 500 MB/s > Raw NAND FLASH read:20 MB/s > Security hash: 4 MB/s > > So

Re: 5 sec boot

2008-10-05 Thread NoiseEHC
> To what end? AFAIK the zlib decompression (both in OFW and in the OS) > is not one of the primary problem areas. > Changing fs read from CPU bound to IO bound would change a lot of things, for example the boot could utilize a little bit of more concurrency. Unfortunately we will only see its

Re: journal is hard (was Re: notes from the field - Mongolia)

2008-10-10 Thread NoiseEHC
> We can do a little better than that, actually, by making it all one > prompt. It can have a name field, already filled out with the best > darn attempt at a name we can manage, a tag field (and perhaps even a > list of popular tags as well, to apply to it with a click or a > drag/drop), and but

Re: 9.1 Proposal: shutdown menu

2008-10-22 Thread NoiseEHC
In the old builds I could initiate a shutdown and close the lid and the XO just finished the shutdown. In the new builds when I close the lid the shutdown halts because of suspend (I think, can be mistaken). Could it be a little bit more clever about when to suspend? Or is it what you are referr

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Power.

2008-10-22 Thread NoiseEHC
> as a G1G1 user one annoyance of enabling power savings is the screen > dimming while I am reading a page. I thought this was supposed to be > improved, but I saw the same thing when I upgraded to 767 a week ago. > > > +1 I did not try 767 but I have found it very irritating in 763. ___

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Top five performance problems

2008-10-24 Thread NoiseEHC
The Geode X drive copyes every bit of data to the command ring buffer by using the CPU so that is sure that those "almost no CPU cycles" thing is at least a bit stretch... :) According to Jordan Crouse it will not be better but he was not too concrete so in the end I am not sure what he was rea

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Top five performance problems

2008-10-24 Thread NoiseEHC
are not enough developers or because it is not technically sound? Jordan Crouse wrote: > On 25/10/08 00:00 +0200, NoiseEHC wrote: > >> The Geode X drive copyes every bit of data to the command ring buffer by >> using the CPU so that is sure that those "almost no CPU

testing 8.2.1 - 800

2009-02-24 Thread NoiseEHC
I had some time lately and tested the latest signed release. I have reimaged (with 4 button pressed start) my XO and after that installed activities via olpc-update and some yum mc/gcc/make/X11-devel/Xv-devel. I did not copied my developer key to /security this time. The extreme power manageme

Re: OS/X11 support for XO-1 hardware?

2009-02-26 Thread NoiseEHC
If you need it for some game then here is how to do it: attached. A little question to Jordan Crouse or anybody else who can answer. Here Jodran told me that the Geode can do XV flipping: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2007-May/005208.html It can be that he either did not reflect to that

rotate button sucks on the XO

2009-03-01 Thread NoiseEHC
Hello! Just today I have noticed some things about the rotate button (which is below the directional buttons on the display part): 1. When the screen is rotated the mouse does not so if I turn the XO to be able to read letters, I cannot navigate with the mouse. 2. An Xvideo RGB overlay displays

Re: rotate button sucks on the XO

2009-03-01 Thread NoiseEHC
do not have enough linux programming experience to do this otherwise I would have been already done that. > noiseehc wrote: > > Hello! > > > > Just today I have noticed some things about the rotate button (which is > > below the directional buttons on the display pa

Re: rotate button sucks on the XO

2009-03-01 Thread NoiseEHC
Aaron Konstam wrote: On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 17:06 +0100, NoiseEHC wrote: Hello! Just today I have noticed some things about the rotate button (which is below the directional buttons on the display part): 1. When the screen is rotated the mouse does not so if I turn the XO to be able to

Re: rotate button sucks on the XO

2009-03-01 Thread NoiseEHC
Eben Eliason wrote: > This whole argument, I feel, is fruitless. That's just my opinion, of course. > > The touchpad isn't readily accessible in handheld mode, and was never > made to be. I'll continue to suggest that the cursor simply be > automatically hidden in handheld mode, and that a simpl

Re: rotate button sucks on the XO

2009-03-02 Thread NoiseEHC
> in any case, so far i've heard no good argument against rotating > the touchscreen to match the screen. it may not be the most > convenient way to use or hold the laptop, but it would be better than > the current situation where screen rotation makes the touchpad > almost completely useless. >

Re: rotate button sucks on the XO

2009-03-02 Thread NoiseEHC
t; Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: >> Jordan Crouse wrote: >>> NoiseEHC wrote: >>> >>>> 2. An Xvideo RGB overlay displays the big nothing (black) while the >>>> screen is rotated. >>> Indeed - XV is purposely turned off when the screen is rotated (or

What to expect from developers, are there any left? (was Re: rotate button sucks on the XO)

2009-03-02 Thread NoiseEHC
p...@laptop.org wrote: > but like david, i think > that currently neither olpc nor sugarlabs is going to foster or > champion their use: olpc has no resources for s/w development, > and as far as i can tell, sugarlabs is targeting other h/w > platforms just as strongly as the XO -- and other pla

What to expect from developers, are there any left? (was Re: rotate button sucks on the XO)

2009-03-02 Thread NoiseEHC
Sorry, I wanted to post it toplevel. p...@laptop.org wrote: > but like david, i think > that currently neither olpc nor sugarlabs is going to foster or > champion their use: olpc has no resources for s/w development, > and as far as i can tell, sugarlabs is targeting other h/w > platforms ju

Re: rotate button sucks on the XO

2009-03-02 Thread NoiseEHC
p...@laptop.org wrote: > noiseehc wrote: > > The question remains whether we make it rotate to match the closed ebook > > mode or match the rotated opened-like-a-book mode. > > there's no good answer to this, because there's no way to make it > "do t

Re: What to expect from developers, are there any left? (was Re: rotate button sucks on the XO)

2009-03-02 Thread NoiseEHC
Daniel Drake wrote: > It is unlikely that you (as a user, rather than a deployment) > reporting bugs to OLPC will result in another software release *direct > from OLPC* (such as 8.2.2), because development of 8.2.x is mostly > discontinued and will really only be driven by deployments. > Have you

Re: What to expect from developers, are there any left? (was Re: rotate button sucks on the XO)

2009-03-02 Thread NoiseEHC
> I don't know what your simple program does, but it sounds like it > could be a Sugar bug. You should file a ticket at dev.sugarlabs.org. > If it is not related to Sugar, we'll try to pass the report along to > the proper place. > http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/465 > It does sound like NM. Lo

Re: What to expect from developers, are there any left?

2009-03-02 Thread NoiseEHC
p...@laptop.org wrote: Cannot comment on the first part, I have no idea how this linux distro development thing goes... > this is a much simpler question: there's a lot of work going on > in sugarland to help activity writers. since activities are released > independently, the "distribution" a

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-17 Thread NoiseEHC
Hi! I would like to ask these questions from OLPC staff: Does this also mean that people who already own XOs will find that new software is going to require a computer more powerful than they currently have? I thought that that was something that was going to be specifically avoided. This

Re: #9307 NORM Not Tri: 100% reliable way to test a DCON creates the wrong colors bug

2009-04-20 Thread NoiseEHC
it will be fixed ever so never mind.) Zarro Boogs per Child wrote: > #9307: 100% reliable way to test a DCON creates the wrong colors bug > -+-- > Reporter: NoiseEHC | O

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-20 Thread NoiseEHC
> But this should improve with VIA now having employed Harald Welte of > gnuviolations.org fame to help them move forward in the open source > world. They have released their drivers and some manuals for their > GPUs now. So no 3D just yet, but then that's not exactly a regression > compared to th

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] 3D engine uses in a no-nonsense GUI (was: XO Gen 1.5)

2009-04-22 Thread NoiseEHC
I think most of those effects can be just as easily be done by the 2D engine (like what the Geode has). Of course it would need a LOT of coding, like killing the stupid X driver model with the X server process, using a compositing windows manager, rewriting GTK+ to use some form of retained ren

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] 3D engine uses in a no-nonsense GUI (was: XO Gen 1.5)

2009-04-22 Thread NoiseEHC
> Actually, GNOME 3.0 is moving into that direction (requiring OpenGL): > http://lwn.net/Articles/327845/ > > Hehe, seems like that I have just invented Clutter... :) More seriously, it seems that Sugar just runs ahead of Gnome and reinvents almost everything which will be created by Gnome peo

Re: plz test Build 802 + Firmware Q2E41 = Candidate Release 8.2.1

2009-04-29 Thread NoiseEHC
As I understand 802 differs from 801 only in the firmware. Is it true? Shall I test 802 if I have been using 801 for a long time? Will anybody fix kernel/X errors if I report them? Holt wrote: > The build is now signed so you don't even need a developer key: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Friends_i

Re: plz test Build 802 + Firmware Q2E41 = Candidate Release 8.2.1

2009-05-02 Thread NoiseEHC
> A small amount of testing would be very good, yes. We don't expect > any changes to be visible outside of the firmware and battery charging > (behavior should be better in the presence of batteries with extremely > low charge), but we should double-check that everything looks normal. > Seems

Re: Ambient light sensing via LED response

2009-05-05 Thread NoiseEHC
> But why do you say you would need 1 mV accuracy ? Bright sunlight > is far stronger than > the light sources he used. > I am not an engineer so forgive me if I am saying something stupid, but is not the goal to switch off the backlight if and only if there is no difference between the s

Re: ffreep support on Geode LX (XO-1)

2009-05-07 Thread NoiseEHC
I have just tested it on my XO and the Geode DOES NOT support the ffreep instruction. It could explain the halting shutdown when it stalls with a signal 15 (which happens to be SIGILL) and only continuing it when I switch to the other console (as I reported in [1]). So fixing it and creating a

Re: ffreep support on Geode LX (XO-1)

2009-05-07 Thread NoiseEHC
> please file a ticket at dev.laptop.org, with details on how to > reproduce the ffreep issue using build 802. (if it's only > reproducible with debxo (unclear from what's been written so > far), then the priority (and the fix) will likely be very > different.) > > I cannot reproduce it reliab

Re: Fwd: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread NoiseEHC
> The 1GHz C7 is still a slow cpu, as it seems from reviews of similar > netbooks: > > http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4352 > > For most tasks it is slower than an 600MHz Celeron M and that's not > exactly fast. Does anyone more familiar with the hardware have any > idea of how

Re: Fwd: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread NoiseEHC
Please, always use reply-all. Answers inlined where I have an answer. Tiago Marques wrote: On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 6:42 PM, NoiseEHC <mailto:noise...@freemail.hu>> wrote: The 1GHz C7 is still a slow cpu, as it seems from reviews of similar netbooks:

Re: Fwd: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread NoiseEHC
Sorry, should have explained myself better, as I was also talking about memory speed and not size, this time. Ahh, if you wrote about memory size then never mind my comments. :) Thing is, most flash controller implementations are crap, and it will probably be the case with the one in Gen

Re: Bootloader question

2009-06-04 Thread NoiseEHC
The kernel init improvements will certainly bring 15 other seconds. Maybe some parallelisation of the sysvinit will save some time, say 5 seconds (low end estimation) Parallelization will not help at all if you are using JFFS2. The low level NAND driver that JFFS2 uses busy waits for

dev.laptop.org expored

2009-07-20 Thread NoiseEHC
dev.laptop.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate expired on 2009.06.06. 16:03. (Error code: sec_error_expired_certificate) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: A1 Motherboard specs diagram

2009-07-20 Thread NoiseEHC
> There are no free 3D drivers. I have heard nothing to indicate that there > are likely to be soon. I would be surprised if OLPC were to ship the > proprietary drivers, though I cannot speak for them. > Then please test the xvideo extension with sleep/resume. I assumed (wrongly) that there

Re: A1 Motherboard specs diagram

2009-07-20 Thread NoiseEHC
> You are mistaken. The Geode LX has a two scaler units, and neither can > feed back to the main CPU. One of them is in the Geode Display Controller > (not the DCON), and simply scales the entire screen to the output. The > other is in the Video Controller, and can be used only for overlay > sc

kernel debugging

2009-08-02 Thread NoiseEHC
Hi! Recently I have started porting Android-x86 to the XO-1 and unfortunately hit a wall. I know that it can be done since somebody already booted it but the hard drive crashed in his laptop and he had no backups... The porting progresses a little bit slowly because I know almost nothing abou

Re: New F11-for-XO1 build is available and needs testing

2009-08-02 Thread NoiseEHC
I copied both files to a usb drive then booted with holding the esc key. Then 'copy-nand u:\os3.img' then it copied and I got back the firmware prompt. It did not bark about wrong crc or something like that. Then I switched the XO-1 off then switched on and all I can get is a Boot failed error

Re: kernel debugging

2009-08-04 Thread NoiseEHC
Somehow every time I asked about debugging in these forums I have got no answer at all. Now I have a weak feeling that Linux developers are "real programmers" who do not use debuggers. I hope it is not the case... :) > 2. > I looked into using the USB port with gadget support. I am attaching > t

Re: Disk layout for XO-1.5

2009-08-04 Thread NoiseEHC
> > Once BTRFS is mature, yum learns to snapshot-upgrade-or-revert and we > switch to that combo, we will be able to retire olpc-update, the > symlink trees and the fancy overlays. > Do you have a prediction (I mean an educated guess) about when will BTRFS be mature? What I heard last time that

Re: Candidate "paper cut" bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-30 Thread NoiseEHC
Hi! I do not know what was the conclusion about this _completely hypothetical_ case but does fixing the Geode VGA driver match the "paper cut" criteria? Since I am porting (very slowly since 2 months ago I did not know anything at all about the Linux boot process for example) Android to the

Re: Booting squashfs from olpc.fth

2009-10-27 Thread NoiseEHC
You probably need to do a dcon-unfreeze as well. \ OLPC boot script unfreeze dcon-unfreeze " u:\android\initrd.img" to ramdisk " u:\android\kernel" to boot-device " root=/dev/ram0 console=tty0 androidboot.hardware=xo1" to boot-file boot Sebastian Silva wrote: Hello I'm trying to boot into Tris

Re: os33 - video regression ?

2009-10-27 Thread NoiseEHC
> To the best of my knowledge Flash has never supported the XVideo > extension. The reason for this is that Xv scales YUV data and Flash > uses RGB data. Now could this be converted and scaled absolutely, but > Adobe has decided they are not going down that road. > Xv can blit both YUV and RG

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