[ClusterLabs Developers] crmsh release 2.2.1

2016-04-27 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
github.com/ClusterLabs/crmsh/archive/2.2.1.tar.gz * https://github.com/ClusterLabs/crmsh/archive/2.2.1.zip -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers mailing list Developers@clusterlabs.org http://clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers

[ClusterLabs Developers] Releasing crmsh version 2.3.0

2016-08-12 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
anges since version 2.3.0, see the ChangeLog, available at: * https://github.com/ClusterLabs/crmsh/blob/2.3.0/ChangeLog As usual, a huge thank you to all contributors and users of crmsh! Cheers, Kristoffer -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com signature.asc D

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] OCF under the Linux Foundation?

2016-08-15 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
less of that, not more. -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers mailing list Developers@clusterlabs.org http://clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] Resurrecting OCF

2016-08-18 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
y head, there are * heartbeat/Evmsd * heartbeat/EvmsSCC * heartbeat/LinuxSCSI * heartbeat/pingd * heartbeat/IPaddr * heartbeat/ManageRAID * heartbeat/vmware A pet peeve of mine would also be to move heartbeat/IPaddr2 to clusterlabs/IP, to finally get rid of that weird 2 in the name...

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] Potential logo for Cluster Labs

2016-08-24 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
page content and theme, and it's a bit easier to test suggestions locally... Cheers, Kristoffer -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers mailing list Developers@clusterlabs.org http://clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] Potential logo for Cluster Labs

2016-08-24 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
Andrew Beekhof writes: > agree completely > as ken said, we always wanted this but lacked the time Alright, I guess I've committed to doing this now ;) Cheers, Kristoffer -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers m

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] Potential logo for Cluster Labs

2016-08-25 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
pile :) Alright, if we're throwing logo design ideas on a pile, here's mine! The idea being basically a beaker with servers in it, hence.. Clusterlabs. -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers mailing list Developers@clusterlabs.org http://clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] Potential logo for Cluster Labs

2016-08-25 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
Klaus Wenninger writes: > On 08/25/2016 04:53 PM, Jan Pokorný wrote: >> On 25/08/16 09:17 -0500, Ken Gaillot wrote: >>> On 08/25/2016 09:02 AM, Kristoffer Grönlund wrote: >>>> Klaus Wenninger writes: >>>> >>>>> On 08/25/2016 03:1

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] Potential logo for Cluster Labs

2016-08-25 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
ux turning 20 I donate the beaker idea and image to the community ;) -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers mailing list Developers@clusterlabs.org http://clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] Potential logo for Cluster Labs

2016-08-25 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
Kristoffer Grönlund writes: > In the spirit of Linux turning 20 Also I apparently posted this 5 years ago -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers mailing list Developers@clusterlabs.org http://clusterlabs.org/mailman/listi

[ClusterLabs Developers] Announcing crmsh release 2.1.7

2016-09-01 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
ve/2.1.7.tar.gz * https://github.com/ClusterLabs/crmsh/archive/2.1.7.zip Thank you, Kristoffer -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers mailing list Developers@clusterlabs.org http://clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] [Linux-ha-dev] Announcing crmsh release 2.1.7

2016-09-01 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
This has now been replaced by the pcmk_delay_max parameter. For an example of how to use this, see this pull request for sbd: https://github.com/ClusterLabs/sbd/pull/15/commits/ca2fba836eab169f0c8cacf7f3757c0485bcfef8 Cheers, Kristoffer -- // Kristoff

[ClusterLabs Developers] crmsh release 2.3.1 (Python 2.6 compatibility release)

2016-09-02 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
crmsh! Cheers, Kristoffer -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers mailing list Developers@clusterlabs.org http://clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] [ClusterLabs] [Linux-ha-dev] Announcing crmsh release 2.1.7

2016-09-02 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
: What do you use it for, where the two_node option is not sufficient? Cheers, Kristoffer -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers mailing list Developers@clusterlabs.org http://clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] [ClusterLabs] [Linux-ha-dev] Announcing crmsh release 2.1.7

2016-09-23 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
" option doesn't provide that. > > Thank you, > Kostia > That's true, for that you'll need to set no-quorum-policy=ignore. But, to clarify again, no-quorum-policy=ignore is still there, it is just not the recommended default configuration for a two no

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] RFC: New stonith agent for pacemaker clusters running on virtual machines which are managed by ganeti

2016-10-10 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
a mercurial repository here: http://hg.linux-ha.org/glue Submissions can be sent as a patch, either to this mailing list or to the linux-ha-...@linux-ha.org mailing list. We've discussed moving cluster-glue to github.com and the ClusterLabs organization, but no one has actually done it yet. ;

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] moving cluster-glue to github

2016-10-10 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
Cc:ing the Linux HA development list as well. -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers mailing list Developers@clusterlabs.org http://clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] moving cluster-glue to github

2016-10-11 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
>> obvious "git push" to github, and maybe updating a README / wiki page >> or two? >> >> ___ >> Developers mailing list >> Developers@clusterlabs.org >> http://clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers > > _____

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] announcement: schedule for resource-agents release 3.9.8

2017-01-03 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
ssues and 38 pull > requests still open. > > > Cheers, > Oyvind Albrigtsen > > ___ > Developers mailing list > Developers@clusterlabs.org > http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers > -- // Kristoffer Grönlun

[ClusterLabs Developers] HA/Clusterlabs Summit 2017 Proposal

2017-01-30 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
rd. Any thoughts or feedback are more than welcome! Let me know if you are interested in coming or unable to make it. Cheers, Kristoffer -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers mailing list Developers@clusterlabs.org http://lists.clu

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] [ClusterLabs] HA/Clusterlabs Summit 2017 Proposal

2017-01-31 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
Digimer writes: > On 30/01/17 09:23 AM, Kristoffer Grönlund wrote: >> Hi everyone! >> >> The last time we had an HA summit was in 2015, and the intention then >> was to have SUSE arrange the next meetup in the following year. We did >> try to find a date that wo

[ClusterLabs Developers] Releasing crmsh version 3.0.0

2017-01-31 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
l, a huge thank you to all contributors and users of crmsh! Cheers, Kristoffer -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers mailing list Developers@clusterlabs.org http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] HA/Clusterlabs Summit 2017 Proposal

2017-01-31 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
Chris Feist writes: > On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Kristoffer Grönlund > wrote: > >> Hi everyone! >> >> The last time we had an HA summit was in 2015, and the intention then >> was to have SUSE arrange the next meetup in the following year. We did &g

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] sbd v1.3.0

2017-03-29 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
;> >> Klaus >> >> >> ___ >> Developers mailing list >> Developers@clusterlabs.org >> http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers >> >> > > ___ > Developers mailin

[ClusterLabs Developers] Clusterlabs Summit 2017 - Dates, hotels and other updates

2017-04-06 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
ns or opinions as well. Thank you, and hope to see you there! -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers mailing list Developers@clusterlabs.org http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] Coming in pacemaker: CIB schema versioning no longer compatible with string- and float-based comparisons

2017-07-20 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
e. Cheers, Kristoffer -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers mailing list Developers@clusterlabs.org http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers

[ClusterLabs Developers] crmsh: Release 3.0.1

2017-07-21 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
agged release: * https://github.com/ClusterLabs/crmsh/archive/3.0.1.tar.gz * https://github.com/ClusterLabs/crmsh/archive/3.0.1.zip As usual, a huge thank you to all contributors and users of crmsh! Cheers, Kristoffer -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@sus

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] [HA/ClusterLabs Summit] Key-Signing Party, 2017 Edition

2017-07-24 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
al to all involved. > > See you there! > > > [1] for instance, see: > <https://github.com/blog/2144-gpg-signature-verification> > <https://pagure.io/pagure/issue/885> > > -- > Jan (Poki) > ___ > Developers mailing list > Developers@clusterlabs.org > http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers mailing list Developers@clusterlabs.org http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] crmsh: Release 3.0.1 - hb_report

2017-07-24 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
Valentin Vidic writes: > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 11:20:46AM +0200, Kristoffer Grönlund wrote: >> I would also like to take the opportinity to introduce a new core >> developer for crmsh, Xin Liang! For this release he has contributed >> some of the bug fixes discov

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] crmsh: Release 3.0.1 - cluster init with sbd

2017-07-24 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
ood point, there should probably at least be a warning issued if both are configured to use the same watchdog device. Cheers, Kristoffer > > -- > Valentin > > ___ > Developers mailing list > Developers@clusterlabs.org > http://list

[ClusterLabs Developers] Clusterlabs Summit 2017 (Sept. 6-7 in Nuremberg) - One month left!

2017-08-01 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
#x27;t have any other remarks, other than to wish everyone welcome to Nuremberg in a month! Feel free to contact me with any concerns or issues related to the summit, and I'll do what I can to help out. Cheers, Kristoffer -- // Kristoffer Grönlund /

[ClusterLabs Developers] Clusterlabs Summit 2017: Please register!

2017-08-09 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
mail to me confirming your attendance regardless, in case you are unhappy about using Eventbrite. Also, it would be great if you could register as quickly as possible so that we can make dinner reservations early enough to hopefully be able to fit everyone into one space. Thank you, Kristoffer -- //

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] resource-agents v4.1.0 rc1

2017-11-17 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
t; >> >> Best, >> The resource-agents maintainers >> >> _______ >> Developers mailing list >> Developers@clusterlabs.org >> http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers > > ___ > Developers mailing list > Developers@clusterlabs.org > http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers > -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers mailing list Developers@clusterlabs.org http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] resource-agents v4.1.0 rc1

2017-11-17 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
https://github.com/ClusterLabs/resource-agents/blob/v4.1.0rc1/ChangeLog >> > > > >> > > > Everyone is encouraged to download and test the new release candidate. >> > > > We do many regression tests and simulations, but we can't cover all &

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] resource-agents v4.1.0 rc1

2017-11-20 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
t is an old name. Maybe that's complicating things too much, though. I don't know how much of a problem it would be in practice. There isn't really any reason to ever stop providing the old names unless the agent is removed, and in that case the user would definitely know. :) Cheers,

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] New LVM resource agent name (currently LVM-activate)

2017-11-23 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
the existing agent? Especially now that the activation modes are more or less plugins to the old agent. LVM vs. LVM2 is confusing enough on its own, if there's an actual lvm2 project that just makes it even worse... IPaddr and IPaddr2 is a situation we don't want to repeat. :/ Even if

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] New LVM resource agent name (currently LVM-activate)

2017-11-23 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
you only get to play once, though. But yeah, that could be an option. It also clarifies that the agent is an alternative to LVM and not something to be used together with it. Cheers, Kristoffer >> >>Even if it means some extra work, I suspect it will be worth it in the >>end to c

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] New LVM resource agent name (currently LVM-activate)

2017-11-23 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
st, that's my opinion, clearly opinions differ on this matter ;) Cheers, Kristoffer > > -- > Jan (Poki) > ___ > Developers mailing list > Developers@clusterlabs.org > http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers -- //

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] New LVM resource agent name (currently LVM-activate)

2017-11-24 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
list > Developers@clusterlabs.org > http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers mailing list Developers@clusterlabs.org http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] kronosnet v1.0 released

2018-01-08 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
Digimer writes: > Huge congrats, all!! > Indeed, congratulations! Cheers, Kristoffer -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers mailing list Developers@clusterlabs.org http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] Reference to private bugzillas in commit messages

2018-01-09 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
y describe the problem it is solving or the solution included. But then on the other hand, once the commit message does contain all the relevant details, having a reference to aid some internal book-keeping doesn't seem like such a harmful thing either. Cheers, Kristoffer -- // Kristoff

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] Reference to private bugzillas in commit messages

2018-01-10 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
velopers mailing list > Developers@clusterlabs.org > http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers > -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers mailing list Developers@clusterlabs.org http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] Reference to private bugzillas in commit messages

2018-01-10 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
are private by default.. Cheers, Kristoffer -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers mailing list Developers@clusterlabs.org http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] [ClusterLabs] Error when linking to libqb in shared library

2018-02-12 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
__ > Users mailing list: us...@clusterlabs.org > http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > Project Home: http://www.clusterlabs.org > Getting started: http://www.clusterlabs.org/do

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] Impact of changing Pacemaker daemon names on other projects?

2018-04-16 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
des to doing it. Cheers, Kristoffer > -- > Ken Gaillot > ___ > Developers mailing list > Developers@clusterlabs.org > https://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers mailing list Developers@clusterlabs.org https://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] [RFC] Time to migrate authoritative source forge elsewhere?

2018-06-06 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
com/articles/enabling-required-reviews-for-pull-requests/ Cheers, Kristoffer -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Developers mailing list Developers@clusterlabs.org https://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] [RFC] Time to migrate authoritative source forge elsewhere?

2018-06-07 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
Jan Pokorný writes: > On 07/06/18 08:48 +0200, Kristoffer Grönlund wrote: >> Jan Pokorný writes: >>> But with the latest headlines on where that site is likely headed, >>> I think it's a great opportunity for us to possibly jump on the >>> bandwagon

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] [RFC] Time to migrate authoritative source forge elsewhere?

2018-06-07 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
Adam Spiers writes: > Kristoffer Gronlund wrote: >>>On 07/06/18 08:48 +0200, Kristoffer Grönlund wrote: >>>>Jan Pokorný writes: >>So GitLab has a problem that AFAIK even GitHub didn't have, where >>certain crucial features are only in the enterpris

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] [RFC] Time to migrate authoritative source forge elsewhere?

2018-06-08 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
code review features sound useful as well, especially being able to compare with previous versions. The github model of force pushing over the last request really isn't great for tracking what's happening to a pull request. Cheers, Kristoffer --

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] [ClusterLabs] resource-agents v4.2.0 rc1

2018-10-19 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
On Fri, 2018-10-19 at 10:55 +0200, Oyvind Albrigtsen wrote: > On 18/10/18 19:43 +0200, Valentin Vidic wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 12:03:18PM +0200, Oyvind Albrigtsen wrote: > > > - apache: retry PID check. > > > > I noticed that the ocft test started failing for apache in this > > version.

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] [ClusterLabs] resource-agents v4.2.0

2018-10-24 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
On Wed, 2018-10-24 at 10:21 +0200, Oyvind Albrigtsen wrote: > ClusterLabs is happy to announce resource-agents v4.2.0. > Source code is available at: > https://github.com/ClusterLabs/resource-agents/releases/tag/v4.2.0 > [snip] > - ocf.py: new Python library and dev guide > I just wanted to

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] [HA] future of OpenStack OCF resource agents (was: resource-agents v4.2.0)

2018-10-24 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
On Wed, 2018-10-24 at 14:42 +0200, Valentin Vidic wrote: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 01:25:54PM +0100, Adam Spiers wrote: > > No doubt I've missed some pros and cons here. At this point > > personally I'm slightly leaning towards keeping them in the > > openstack-resource-agents - but that's assumin

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] [HA] future of OpenStack OCF resource agents (was: resource-agents v4.2.0)

2018-10-24 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
On Wed, 2018-10-24 at 16:35 +0200, Valentin Vidic wrote: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 04:22:52PM +0200, Kristoffer Grönlund wrote: > > Do you mean additional python module dependencies, or that the > > dependency on python itself seems like added weight? Because since > > pyth

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] [HA] future of OpenStack OCF resource agents (was: resource-agents v4.2.0)

2018-10-24 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
On Wed, 2018-10-24 at 13:25 +0100, Adam Spiers wrote: > [cross-posting to openstack-dev] > > Oyvind Albrigtsen wrote: > [snipped] > > > - openstack-cinder-volume > > - openstack-floating-ip > > - openstack-info > > That's an interesting development. > > By popular demand from the community, in

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] [HA] future of OpenStack OCF resource agents (was: resource-agents v4.2.0)

2018-10-25 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
On Thu, 2018-10-25 at 17:26 +0100, Adam Spiers wrote: > Kristoffer Grönlund wrote: > > On Wed, 2018-10-24 at 13:25 +0100, Adam Spiers wrote: > > > [cross-posting to openstack-dev] > > > > > Are these agents copies > > of your openstack agents, or completely

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] Question about notify action

2018-11-15 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
On Wed, 2018-11-14 at 09:22 -0600, Ken Gaillot wrote: > On Wed, 2018-11-14 at 13:41 +0900, Kazutomo Nakahira wrote: > > Hi, all > > [snip] > Sorry, no, notifications are only sent for start, stop, demote, and > promote actions. I'm updating the documentation to reflect this, thanks: https://gi

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] FYI: Proposal for pacemaker API direction

2019-02-04 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
On Mon, 2019-02-04 at 18:43 -0600, Ken Gaillot wrote: > Hi all, > > Anyone who works on the Pacemaker code base might be interested in > this > pull request from Chris Lumens: > > https://github.com/ClusterLabs/pacemaker/pull/1696 > > It's a simple idea but lays the groundwork for the future di

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] Feedback wanted: proposed new copyright policy for Pacemaker

2019-03-14 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
ove to obsess over) don't really matter that much. I really like the idea that "go look in the version control history" works legally! That seems like the most sensible header in general, and most likely to actually be correct over time. -- // Kristoff

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] FYI: github policy change potentially affecting ssh/app access to repositories

2019-04-11 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
Ken Gaillot writes: > Hello all, > > Florian Haas and Kristoffer Grönlund noticed that the ClusterLabs > organization on github currently carries over any app access that > members have given to their own accounts. > Thank you Ken for picking this up! All the credit for notic

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] Using ClusterLabs logo

2019-04-29 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
> page with some prepared Logos - at least with one big to download and > >> a > >> license info > > > > Another good idea > > > Thanks, > Tomas > ___ > Manage your subscription: > https://lists.c

Re: [ClusterLabs Developers] Using ClusterLabs logo

2019-04-30 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
___ > Manage your subscription: > https://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/developers > > ClusterLabs home: https://www.clusterlabs.org/ -- // Kristoffer Grönlund // kgronl...@suse.com ___ Manage your subscription: https://lists.cl