[freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 14:53:45 schrieb Arne Babenhauserheide: > Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 14:38:29 schrieb Matthew Toseland: > > I don't know. IMHO 150 is probably too much, have you spoken privately to > > all these people? > > I think all people I know privately, including school and universi

[freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 22 April 2009 16:52:57 Robert Hailey wrote: > > On Apr 22, 2009, at 7:38 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > > > On Wednesday 22 April 2009 02:09:21 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > >> So we get to the question, what a freenet contact is: A friend or an > >> aquaintance. > >> > >> If you loo

[freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 22 April 2009 18:53:48 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 15:53:39 schrieb Matthew Toseland: > > I don't understand why you want to run a jabber server. Surely announcing > > to your jabber contacts that you are interested in ref exchange would be > > sufficient,

Re: [freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 14:53:45 schrieb Arne Babenhauserheide: > Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 14:38:29 schrieb Matthew Toseland: > > I don't know. IMHO 150 is probably too much, have you spoken privately to > > all these people? > > I think all people I know privately, including school and universi

Re: [freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 22 April 2009 16:52:57 Robert Hailey wrote: > > On Apr 22, 2009, at 7:38 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > > > On Wednesday 22 April 2009 02:09:21 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > >> So we get to the question, what a freenet contact is: A friend or an > >> aquaintance. > >> > >> If you loo

Re: [freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 22 April 2009 18:53:48 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 15:53:39 schrieb Matthew Toseland: > > I don't understand why you want to run a jabber server. Surely announcing > > to your jabber contacts that you are interested in ref exchange would be > > sufficient,

[freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 15:53:39 schrieb Matthew Toseland: > I don't understand why you want to run a jabber server. Surely announcing > to your jabber contacts that you are interested in ref exchange would be > sufficient, and would be client level? I don't mean announcing to your jabber contac

Re: [freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 15:53:39 schrieb Matthew Toseland: > I don't understand why you want to run a jabber server. Surely announcing > to your jabber contacts that you are interested in ref exchange would be > sufficient, and would be client level? I don't mean announcing to your jabber contac

[freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 15:15:07 schrieb VolodyA! V Anarhist: > > Wouldn't IRC/Jabber break anonymity ? > > > > Or, maybe you're speaking of IRC/Jabber over Freenet and i'm wrong ... > > It would only let people know that you are running Freenet, not what you > are doing with it. And whom you are

[freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 14:57:06 schrieb Matthew Toseland: > > But both have the drawback of drawing people away from the webinterface, > > which > > > increases the maintenance cost for toad. > > Not sure I follow. They'd be another interface and someone would have to keep it up to date and wo

[freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Romain Dalmaso
Wouldn't IRC/Jabber break anonymity ? Or, maybe you're speaking of IRC/Jabber over Freenet and i'm wrong ... On 4/22/09, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Wednesday 22 April 2009 13:53:45 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: >> Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 14:38:29 schrieb Matthew Toseland: >> > > other member

[freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 14:38:29 schrieb Matthew Toseland: > > other member of the group as freenet friends, or should they only have > > their closest contacts? > > I don't know. IMHO 150 is probably too much, have you spoken privately to > all these people? I think all people I know privately,

[freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 22 April 2009 14:33:45 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 15:15:07 schrieb VolodyA! V Anarhist: > > > Wouldn't IRC/Jabber break anonymity ? > > > > > > Or, maybe you're speaking of IRC/Jabber over Freenet and i'm wrong ... > > > > It would only let people know tha

[freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 22 April 2009 14:06:48 Romain Dalmaso wrote: > Wouldn't IRC/Jabber break anonymity ? > > Or, maybe you're speaking of IRC/Jabber over Freenet and i'm wrong ... We are talking about getting darknet connections via IRC, and yes, there is a tradeoff. However, sending darknet refs via e

[freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 22 April 2009 14:30:02 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 14:57:06 schrieb Matthew Toseland: > > > But both have the drawback of drawing people away from the webinterface, > > > > which > > > > > increases the maintenance cost for toad. > > > > Not sure I follow.

[freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread VolodyA! V Anarhist
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Romain Dalmaso wrote: > Wouldn't IRC/Jabber break anonymity ? > > Or, maybe you're speaking of IRC/Jabber over Freenet and i'm wrong ... It would only let people know that you are running Freenet, not what you are doing with it. And whom you are comp

[freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 22 April 2009 13:53:45 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 14:38:29 schrieb Matthew Toseland: > > > other member of the group as freenet friends, or should they only have > > > their closest contacts? > > > > I don't know. IMHO 150 is probably too much, have you sp

[freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 22 April 2009 02:09:21 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Dienstag 21 April 2009 17:41:59 schrieb Theodore Hong: > > VolodyA! V Anarhist wrote: > > > Matthew Toseland wrote: > > > If you watch the 'Human body' documentary it says that humans have on > > > average 20 people they call fr

[freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Robert Hailey
On Apr 22, 2009, at 7:38 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Wednesday 22 April 2009 02:09:21 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: >> So we get to the question, what a freenet contact is: A friend or an >> aquaintance. >> >> If you look at myspace and similar sites, you'll see people with >> hundreds of >

Re: [freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Robert Hailey
On Apr 22, 2009, at 7:38 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: On Wednesday 22 April 2009 02:09:21 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: So we get to the question, what a freenet contact is: A friend or an aquaintance. If you look at myspace and similar sites, you'll see people with hundreds of "friends" whi

[freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread David ‘Bombe’ Roden
On Tuesday 21 April 2009 17:41:59 Theodore Hong wrote: > There's a thing called Dunbar's number which supposedly represents an > upper cognitive limit on the number of friendships that a person can > keep track of - estimated to be around 150. It?s probably better known as ?the monkeysphere.? [1]

Re: [freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 22 April 2009 14:33:45 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 15:15:07 schrieb VolodyA! V Anarhist: > > > Wouldn't IRC/Jabber break anonymity ? > > > > > > Or, maybe you're speaking of IRC/Jabber over Freenet and i'm wrong ... > > > > It would only let people know tha

Re: [freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 22 April 2009 14:06:48 Romain Dalmaso wrote: > Wouldn't IRC/Jabber break anonymity ? > > Or, maybe you're speaking of IRC/Jabber over Freenet and i'm wrong ... We are talking about getting darknet connections via IRC, and yes, there is a tradeoff. However, sending darknet refs via e

Re: [freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 22 April 2009 14:30:02 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 14:57:06 schrieb Matthew Toseland: > > > But both have the drawback of drawing people away from the webinterface, > > > > which > > > > > increases the maintenance cost for toad. > > > > Not sure I follow.

Re: [freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 15:15:07 schrieb VolodyA! V Anarhist: > > Wouldn't IRC/Jabber break anonymity ? > > > > Or, maybe you're speaking of IRC/Jabber over Freenet and i'm wrong ... > > It would only let people know that you are running Freenet, not what you > are doing with it. And whom you are

Re: [freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 14:57:06 schrieb Matthew Toseland: > > But both have the drawback of drawing people away from the webinterface, > > which > > > increases the maintenance cost for toad. > > Not sure I follow. They'd be another interface and someone would have to keep it up to date and wo

Re: [freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread VolodyA! V Anarhist
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Romain Dalmaso wrote: > Wouldn't IRC/Jabber break anonymity ? > > Or, maybe you're speaking of IRC/Jabber over Freenet and i'm wrong ... It would only let people know that you are running Freenet, not what you are doing with it. And whom you are comp

Re: [freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Romain Dalmaso
Wouldn't IRC/Jabber break anonymity ? Or, maybe you're speaking of IRC/Jabber over Freenet and i'm wrong ... On 4/22/09, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Wednesday 22 April 2009 13:53:45 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: >> Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 14:38:29 schrieb Matthew Toseland: >> > > other member

Re: [freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 22 April 2009 13:53:45 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 14:38:29 schrieb Matthew Toseland: > > > other member of the group as freenet friends, or should they only have > > > their closest contacts? > > > > I don't know. IMHO 150 is probably too much, have you sp

Re: [freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 14:38:29 schrieb Matthew Toseland: > > other member of the group as freenet friends, or should they only have > > their closest contacts? > > I don't know. IMHO 150 is probably too much, have you spoken privately to > all these people? I think all people I know privately,

Re: [freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 22 April 2009 02:09:21 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Dienstag 21 April 2009 17:41:59 schrieb Theodore Hong: > > VolodyA! V Anarhist wrote: > > > Matthew Toseland wrote: > > > If you watch the 'Human body' documentary it says that humans have on > > > average 20 people they call fr

[freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-22 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Dienstag 21 April 2009 17:41:59 schrieb Theodore Hong: > VolodyA! V Anarhist wrote: > > Matthew Toseland wrote: > > If you watch the 'Human body' documentary it says that humans have on > > average 20 people they call friends. I am unsure where that number comes > > from, but if it's some scien

Re: [freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-21 Thread David ‘Bombe’ Roden
On Tuesday 21 April 2009 17:41:59 Theodore Hong wrote: > There's a thing called Dunbar's number which supposedly represents an > upper cognitive limit on the number of friendships that a person can > keep track of - estimated to be around 150. It’s probably better known as “the monkeysphere.” [1]

Re: [freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-21 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Dienstag 21 April 2009 17:41:59 schrieb Theodore Hong: > VolodyA! V Anarhist wrote: > > Matthew Toseland wrote: > > If you watch the 'Human body' documentary it says that humans have on > > average 20 people they call friends. I am unsure where that number comes > > from, but if it's some scien

[freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-21 Thread Theodore Hong
VolodyA! V Anarhist wrote: > Matthew Toseland wrote: >> 1. (200 votes) Release the 20 nodes barrier >> > If you watch the 'Human body' documentary it says that humans have on average > 20 > people they call friends. I am unsure where that number comes from, but if > it's > some scientific study,

[freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-21 Thread VolodyA! V Anarhist
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Toseland wrote: > Top 5 suggestions on freenet.uservoice.com. Two are performance, and three > are > usability. > > 1. (200 votes) Release the 20 nodes barrier > > Interesting that the top issue is essentially a plea for more performance!

Re: [freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-21 Thread Theodore Hong
VolodyA! V Anarhist wrote: > Matthew Toseland wrote: >> 1. (200 votes) Release the 20 nodes barrier >> > If you watch the 'Human body' documentary it says that humans have on average > 20 > people they call friends. I am unsure where that number comes from, but if > it's > some scientific study,

Re: [freenet-dev] Current uservoice top 5 (20 node barrier)

2009-04-21 Thread VolodyA! V Anarhist
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Toseland wrote: > Top 5 suggestions on freenet.uservoice.com. Two are performance, and three > are > usability. > > 1. (200 votes) Release the 20 nodes barrier > > Interesting that the top issue is essentially a plea for more performance!