Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-10-24 Thread Eduard Moraru
Hi Anca, On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Anca Luca lu...@xwiki.com wrote: Hi Edi, I sort of understand from this mail that you think I am defending the dashboard on the homepage. I cannot figure out how you got that idea. The only thing I was saying in the previous mail is that 2

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-10-24 Thread Eduard Moraru
Hi Jeremie, Thanks for your proposal (and for highjacking this thread in doing so :) ). I will add an entry on the proposals page for it and I suggest we move discussions not related to the Simplified Home Page proposals on the general thread: http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/a3umh6ihsdpxrhws

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-10-22 Thread Marius Dumitru Florea
On Oct 21, 2014 11:22 PM, Jeremie BOUSQUET jeremie.bousq...@gmail.com wrote: To clarify my point of view, I would say that: - UC6 is not only a use-case, it's a proposal in itself Flavors need to be able to easily set/replace the homepage I propose that flavors, and wiki creation wizard,

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-10-21 Thread Anca Luca
Hello Edi, On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Eduard Moraru enygma2...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Anca Luca lu...@xwiki.com wrote: Hello all, so on the topic of removing the dashboard from the homepage and if people need it they can access it independently.

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-10-21 Thread Anca Luca
Hi Edi, I sort of understand from this mail that you think I am defending the dashboard on the homepage. I cannot figure out how you got that idea. The only thing I was saying in the previous mail is that 2 dashboards by default don't make sense for me, because dashboard means to me overview

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-10-21 Thread Anca Luca
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Anca Luca lu...@xwiki.com wrote: Hi Edi, I sort of understand from this mail that you think I am defending the dashboard on the homepage. I cannot figure out how you got that idea. The only thing I was saying in the previous mail is that 2 dashboards by

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-10-21 Thread Jeremie BOUSQUET
Basically if I got your point, you're saying that the home page should depend on the kind or flavor of wiki wanted by Alice, but though we have some ideas about it, we should let her choose by herself. It really looks like a last step of a wiki creation with flavor wizard, don't you think ? :) and

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-10-21 Thread Jeremie BOUSQUET
To clarify my point of view, I would say that: - UC6 is not only a use-case, it's a proposal in itself Flavors need to be able to easily set/replace the homepage I propose that flavors, and wiki creation wizard, should be the (first) way to set and replace the homepage. The second one being to

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-10-20 Thread Eduard Moraru
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Anca Luca lu...@xwiki.com wrote: Hello all, so on the topic of removing the dashboard from the homepage and if people need it they can access it independently. In my opinion, this dashboard does not really exist or have any value beyond the homepage. I

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-10-20 Thread vinc...@massol.net
Hi Anca, Some comments 1) I agree about making the home page a simple page to teach the first user (admin usually) the main concepts of the wiki and to let him customize it for his/her own need. I agree that we need to teach the user a few things, like using the include macro (this allows the

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-10-17 Thread Anca Luca
Hello all, so on the topic of removing the dashboard from the homepage and if people need it they can access it independently. In my opinion, this dashboard does not really exist or have any value beyond the homepage. I mean, what does it mean, what is it used for besides the homepage? What

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-10-14 Thread Guillaume Lerouge
Hi, once taking into account all of Edy's remarks, it feels a bit like what we actually need is a better UI for the {{include /}} macro :-) And then use that macro on the home page of the wiki. Guillaume ᐧ On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Eduard Moraru enygma2...@gmail.com wrote: Some

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-10-14 Thread Eduard Moraru
Hi Guillaume, Are you sure you are on the right thread? :) Thanks, Eduard On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Guillaume Lerouge guilla...@xwiki.com wrote: Hi, once taking into account all of Edy's remarks, it feels a bit like what we actually need is a better UI for the {{include /}} macro

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-10-08 Thread Eduard Moraru
Some clarifications regarding the implementation of this proposal that I wanted to add here for reference: 1. Stop including the dashboard in the homepage, it is available as an app in the app bar on the left 2. Come up with some introductory text for the homepage on (x)wiki concepts and

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-09-18 Thread Denis Gervalle
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:13 AM, vinc...@massol.net vinc...@massol.net wrote: On 17 Sep 2014 at 08:57:35, Denis Gervalle (d...@softec.lu(mailto: d...@softec.lu)) wrote: Well, there is also another way to tackle that problem, which is to make the HomePage easily configurable. I have

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-09-18 Thread Jeremie BOUSQUET
Hi, 2014-09-16 15:23 GMT+02:00 vinc...@massol.net vinc...@massol.net: Hi devs, As you know I started working on a Home Page Application, see: - JIRA with screenshots: http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10586 - Discussion thread: http://markmail.org/message/ghelufamwucog46x I have it all

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-09-18 Thread Marius Dumitru Florea
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Jeremie BOUSQUET jeremie.bousq...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 2014-09-16 15:23 GMT+02:00 vinc...@massol.net vinc...@massol.net: Hi devs, As you know I started working on a Home Page Application, see: - JIRA with screenshots:

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-09-17 Thread Denis Gervalle
Well, there is also another way to tackle that problem, which is to make the HomePage easily configurable. I have never understand why the home should be Main.WebHome, which does not seems meaningful, in particular in french. Even the Main space is weird, imagine a Hand space in english ;)

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-09-17 Thread vinc...@massol.net
  On 17 Sep 2014 at 08:57:35, Denis Gervalle (d...@softec.lu(mailto:d...@softec.lu)) wrote: Well, there is also another way to tackle that problem, which is to make the HomePage easily configurable. I have never understand why the home should be Main.WebHome, which does not seems

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-09-17 Thread Yacine Kebir
I think that is a good idea to make a navigation easy to a simple user, we could give to user a liberty to customize easily his home page with app who he want, for the implementation i propose an idea to simplified the customization: - Make a page in the admin or in the editing of page who we

[xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-09-16 Thread vinc...@massol.net
Hi devs, As you know I started working on a Home Page Application, see: - JIRA with screenshots: http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10586 - Discussion thread: http://markmail.org/message/ghelufamwucog46x I have it all done locally but I refrained from committing it because on the email thread

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-09-16 Thread Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau
I think it is a good idea to remove the dashboard, because the Main page should be the easiest possible to edit, in the spirit of this video: http://www.commoncraft.com/video/wikis Keep it simple, stupid. 2014-09-16 15:23 GMT+02:00 vinc...@massol.net vinc...@massol.net: Hi devs, As you know

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Simplified Home Page

2014-09-16 Thread vinc...@massol.net
On 16 Sep 2014 at 15:47:59, Marius Dumitru Florea (mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com(mailto:mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com)) wrote: We won't have the activity stream on the home page by default. This is an important change. I can't decide yet.. Yes I know… Now we could decide to still have it