Re: Card on fire

2016-07-16 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2016-07-16 02:06, Walter Bright wrote: BTW, even if an app requires all sorts of registry settings, that is still no excuse. Have a config file, and when the app starts up, it looks for the registry settings. If not there, it reads the config file, and sets the registry settings. I.e. it

Re: [OT] Re: Card on fire

2016-07-16 Thread Basile B. via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 16 July 2016 at 12:16:48 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: On 07/16/2016 12:57 AM, Basile B. wrote: > On Friday, 15 July 2016 at 21:03:28 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: >> The amazing group Replikas > From the few I know i retain this one > > https://youtu.be/Fn8ZfjBsrng?t=23m19s > > very

Re: [OT] Re: Card on fire

2016-07-16 Thread Ali Çehreli via Digitalmars-d
On 07/16/2016 12:57 AM, Basile B. wrote: > On Friday, 15 July 2016 at 21:03:28 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: >> The amazing group Replikas > From the few I know i retain this one > > https://youtu.be/Fn8ZfjBsrng?t=23m19s > > very hooking. Amazing! And there is a connection: I recognized "Taş

Re: [OT] Re: Card on fire

2016-07-16 Thread Basile B. via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 16 July 2016 at 07:57:20 UTC, Basile B. wrote: On Friday, 15 July 2016 at 21:03:28 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: On 07/14/2016 09:18 PM, Basile B. wrote: > [...] >> [...] posting that. >> [...] "under-appreciated >> [...] > [...] treasures" of > [...] think that you > [...] were truely

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-16 Thread Patrick Schluter via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 16 July 2016 at 04:54:02 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 05:02:55PM -0700, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d wrote: On 7/15/2016 3:43 PM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: > One of the many reasons I gave up on Windows many years ago, > and never looked back. ;-)

Re: [OT] Re: Card on fire

2016-07-16 Thread Basile B. via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 15 July 2016 at 21:03:28 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: On 07/14/2016 09:18 PM, Basile B. wrote: > [...] >> [...] posting that. >> [...] "under-appreciated >> [...] > [...] treasures" of > [...] think that you > [...] were truely > [...] I was too young to appreciate at the time but

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-16 Thread Alix Pexton via Digitalmars-d
On 16/07/2016 01:02, Walter Bright wrote: The Ubuntu printer install isn't any better than Microsoft's. I wonder what it is about printers. I can plug in USB drives, internal drives, all sorts of things, and they just work. Even when it's working, the simplest things fail. I learned to never

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-15 Thread H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 05:02:55PM -0700, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On 7/15/2016 3:43 PM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > One of the many reasons I gave up on Windows many years ago, and > > never looked back. ;-) > > I have my grump list for Linux, too. Tried to install it

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-15 Thread H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 10:55:06PM +, Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Friday, 15 July 2016 at 22:48:14 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: > > For a time at Symantec I pushed through making the compiler runnable > > directly off of the CD without requiring an installation. > > Fun fact:

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-15 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 7/15/2016 3:55 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: On Friday, 15 July 2016 at 22:48:14 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: For a time at Symantec I pushed through making the compiler runnable directly off of the CD without requiring an installation. Fun fact: this was basically THE killer feature of the

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-15 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 7/15/2016 3:43 PM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: One of the many reasons I gave up on Windows many years ago, and never looked back. ;-) I have my grump list for Linux, too. Tried to install it once on an HP laptop, and the installer crashed with some long error message in hex. Like

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-15 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 15 July 2016 at 22:48:14 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: For a time at Symantec I pushed through making the compiler runnable directly off of the CD without requiring an installation. Fun fact: this was basically THE killer feature of the Digital Mars compiler for me way back when. I

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-15 Thread H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 03:44:20PM -0700, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On 7/15/2016 12:16 PM, Meta wrote: > > On Friday, 15 July 2016 at 05:10:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: > > > I'm excluding the pain of Windows reinstall, as it took 14 hours > > > of sitting there blankly "checking

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-15 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 7/15/2016 12:46 PM, Jack Stouffer wrote: On Friday, 15 July 2016 at 05:10:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: The absolutely easiest reinstall was dmd - I just copied the directory over from the backup - but I suppose handing out awards to ourselves is a bit narcissistic. Always nice to dog food

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-15 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 7/15/2016 12:16 PM, Meta wrote: On Friday, 15 July 2016 at 05:10:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: I'm excluding the pain of Windows reinstall, as it took 14 hours of sitting there blankly "checking for updates". I wonder what it was possibly doing that took 14 hours (the disk was fresh, there

Re: [OT] Re: Card on fire

2016-07-15 Thread Ali Çehreli via Digitalmars-d
On 07/14/2016 09:18 PM, Basile B. wrote: > On Friday, 15 July 2016 at 00:17:35 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOErZuzZpS8 >>> >> >> OK, this is really going off off topic but thank you for posting that. >> I've discovered Arthur Brown (you? ;) ). An

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-15 Thread Jack Stouffer via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 15 July 2016 at 05:10:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: The absolutely easiest reinstall was dmd - I just copied the directory over from the backup - but I suppose handing out awards to ourselves is a bit narcissistic. Always nice to dog food every once and a while to confirm it

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-15 Thread Meta via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 15 July 2016 at 05:10:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: I'm excluding the pain of Windows reinstall, as it took 14 hours of sitting there blankly "checking for updates". I wonder what it was possibly doing that took 14 hours (the disk was fresh, there was nothing to transmit to the NSA).

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-15 Thread Chris via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 15 July 2016 at 05:10:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: I'm excluding the pain of Windows reinstall, as it took 14 hours of sitting there blankly "checking for updates". I wonder what it was possibly doing that took 14 hours (the disk was fresh, there was nothing to transmit to the

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-14 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 7/9/2016 7:43 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Got a text from Walter - his famous fanless graphics card caught fire along with the motherboard. He'll be outta commission for a few days. -- Andrei Back in business now with a new motherboard and new graphics card, which also wound up forcing

[OT] Re: Card on fire

2016-07-14 Thread Basile B. via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 15 July 2016 at 00:17:35 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: On 07/09/2016 09:11 PM, A.B wrote: On Sunday, 10 July 2016 at 02:43:42 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Got a text from Walter - his famous fanless graphics card caught fire along with the motherboard. He'll be outta commission

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-14 Thread Ali Çehreli via Digitalmars-d
On 07/09/2016 09:11 PM, A.B wrote: On Sunday, 10 July 2016 at 02:43:42 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Got a text from Walter - his famous fanless graphics card caught fire along with the motherboard. He'll be outta commission for a few days. -- Andrei lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-14 Thread Ali Çehreli via Digitalmars-d
On 07/11/2016 02:11 PM, Walter Bright wrote: On 7/9/2016 9:11 PM, A.B wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOErZuzZpS8 You must be older than me to think of that song! Great music! I was thinking how dangerous that show was then I found this on Wikipedia: Brown quickly earned a

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-14 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2016-07-13 21:09, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: I would, as recent kernels support that now, but just haven't had the time to figure out how to set it up just yet. :D Seems like Ksplice has been available since 2008 [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ksplice -- /Jacob Carlborg

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-13 Thread H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 09:49:49AM +0200, Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On 2016-07-12 21:09, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > > I leave my PC running all the time, and there's never been a > > problem. I never reboot unless there's a power outage or the kernel > > is being

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-13 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2016-07-12 21:09, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: I leave my PC running all the time, and there's never been a problem. I never reboot unless there's a power outage or the kernel is being upgraded You don't do "no reboot" kernel patching? ;) -- /Jacob Carlborg

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-12 Thread H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 07:05:41PM +, Jack Stouffer via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Tuesday, 12 July 2016 at 18:30:58 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: > > On 2016-07-12 15:20, Chris wrote: > > > > > Maybe if it's up an running, it's not so bad. But if it goes to > > > sleep as well, then things get

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-12 Thread Jack Stouffer via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 12 July 2016 at 18:30:58 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2016-07-12 15:20, Chris wrote: Maybe if it's up an running, it's not so bad. But if it goes to sleep as well, then things get messy. OS X is not the worst offender, but the safest thing is to reboot regularly to clean the RAM.

[OT] Re: Card on fire

2016-07-12 Thread Leandro Motta Barros via Digitalmars-d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_smoke On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 3:42 PM, deadalnix via Digitalmars-d < digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote: > On Tuesday, 12 July 2016 at 12:17:00 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: > >> I seriously doubt a fan would stop an electrical fire (in fact, probably >>

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-12 Thread deadalnix via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 12 July 2016 at 12:17:00 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: I seriously doubt a fan would stop an electrical fire (in fact, probably makes it worse). It's not overheating, it's arcing. Actually, it would probably make it worse by providing fresh O2 to the fire. BTW, this

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-12 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2016-07-12 15:20, Chris wrote: Maybe if it's up an running, it's not so bad. But if it goes to sleep as well, then things get messy. OS X is not the worst offender, but the safest thing is to reboot regularly to clean the RAM. I don't know what exactly causes crashes and funny behavior but I

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-12 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2016-07-12 14:12, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: OSX needs a reboot every once in a while. iOS too. In particular, my bluetooth system will stop working (and then my trackpad no longer works). Yes, I've tried all the resetting firmware tricks :) I currently have an up time of 79 days. --

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-12 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 07/09/2016 10:43 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Got a text from Walter - his famous fanless graphics card caught fire along with the motherboard. He'll be outta commission for a few days. -- Andrei I didn't mark the original post with [OT] because it was informing the community about

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-12 Thread Chris via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 12 July 2016 at 13:20:17 UTC, Chris wrote: On Tuesday, 12 July 2016 at 11:51:48 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2016-07-12 11:06, Chris wrote: [...] Sleep can be convenient if you're going to use it later the same day, for example. [...] I use OS X and I don't recognize that

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-12 Thread Chris via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 12 July 2016 at 11:51:48 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2016-07-12 11:06, Chris wrote: I turn it off every day. Sleep can be convenient if you're going to use it later the same day, for example. If the OS is up too long (several days), it starts to act weirdly and may crash at

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-12 Thread Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d
dedicated to the card itself. The fire didn't start on the components that were attached to the heat sink. I've run all sorts of computers for 40 years now, have had all sorts of hardware failures, and this is the first one that caught fire. The server hardware I've seen all had very noisy fans.

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-12 Thread Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d
On 7/12/16 7:51 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2016-07-12 11:06, Chris wrote: I turn it off every day. Sleep can be convenient if you're going to use it later the same day, for example. If the OS is up too long (several days), it starts to act weirdly and may crash at the most inconvenient

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-12 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2016-07-12 11:06, Chris wrote: I turn it off every day. Sleep can be convenient if you're going to use it later the same day, for example. If the OS is up too long (several days), it starts to act weirdly and may crash at the most inconvenient time (is there a convenient time for a

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-12 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 7/12/2016 3:08 AM, Michael wrote: Maybe it's time to invest in some "workstation" / server-grade stuff if it's going to be running continuously with little moving air. There's still a case fan, cpu fan, and power supply fan, just not one dedicated to the card itself. The fire di

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-12 Thread Chris via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 12 July 2016 at 11:28:41 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 7/11/2016 11:24 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: I put my computer into sleep mode when I'm not using it for a longer period of time. It seems to shutdown everything but keeps some power to keep the data in RAM alive. So it turn back

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-12 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 7/11/2016 11:24 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: I put my computer into sleep mode when I'm not using it for a longer period of time. It seems to shutdown everything but keeps some power to keep the data in RAM alive. So it turn back on instantly. I still have a lingering reluctance to do that,

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-12 Thread Michael via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 11 July 2016 at 21:29:49 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 7/11/2016 7:49 AM, Meta wrote: It wouldn't happen to be an nVidia card, would it? MSI GeForce GT 720 DirectX 12 N720-1GD3HLP 1GB 64-Bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card The fire happened at the junction between

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-12 Thread Chris via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 12 July 2016 at 06:24:13 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2016-07-11 23:23, Walter Bright wrote: Yeah, I consider myself very lucky, as I leave the machine on all the time. I was sitting next to it when it burst into flame, and cutting the power put it out. In the future I plan on

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-12 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2016-07-11 23:23, Walter Bright wrote: Yeah, I consider myself very lucky, as I leave the machine on all the time. I was sitting next to it when it burst into flame, and cutting the power put it out. In the future I plan on cutting the time for it to go into hibernation. Fortunately it's a

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-11 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 7/11/2016 7:49 AM, Meta wrote: It wouldn't happen to be an nVidia card, would it? MSI GeForce GT 720 DirectX 12 N720-1GD3HLP 1GB 64-Bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card The fire happened at the junction between the graphics card and the motherboard. I'm not totally sure

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-11 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 7/11/2016 6:06 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: That's kind of scary. It's one of those things you don't think about happening -- like what if you weren't home if this happened. Could have been a lot worse. Yeah, I consider myself very lucky, as I leave the machine on all the time. I was

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-11 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 7/9/2016 7:43 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Got a text from Walter - his famous fanless graphics card caught fire along with the motherboard. He'll be outta commission for a few days. -- I can do email and such with my laptop, but it is not suitable for development. I spent yesterday

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-11 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 7/9/2016 9:11 PM, A.B wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOErZuzZpS8 You must be older than me to think of that song!

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-11 Thread Meta via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 10 July 2016 at 02:43:42 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Got a text from Walter - his famous fanless graphics card caught fire along with the motherboard. He'll be outta commission for a few days. -- Andrei It wouldn't happen to be an nVidia card, would it?

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-11 Thread Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d
On 7/9/16 10:43 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Got a text from Walter - his famous fanless graphics card caught fire along with the motherboard. He'll be outta commission for a few days. -- That's kind of scary. It's one of those things you don't think about happening -- like what if you

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-11 Thread Mike James via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 10 July 2016 at 02:43:42 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Got a text from Walter - his famous fanless graphics card caught fire along with the motherboard. He'll be outta commission for a few days. -- Andrei I hope he wasn't using it on the back of a camel in the desert... http

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-09 Thread Jack Stouffer via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 10 July 2016 at 02:43:42 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Got a text from Walter - his famous fanless graphics card caught fire along with the motherboard. He'll be outta commission for a few days. -- Andrei Glad he's ok. Maybe go overboard with the fans this time ;)

Re: Card on fire

2016-07-09 Thread A.B via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 10 July 2016 at 02:43:42 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Got a text from Walter - his famous fanless graphics card caught fire along with the motherboard. He'll be outta commission for a few days. -- Andrei lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOErZuzZpS8

Card on fire

2016-07-09 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
Got a text from Walter - his famous fanless graphics card caught fire along with the motherboard. He'll be outta commission for a few days. -- Andrei