On Saturday, 3 January 2015 at 02:22:32 UTC, ketmar via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 16:35:15 +
dajones via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 13:46:00 UTC, ketmar via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 13:29:45 +
dajones
On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 19:24:59 UTC, Vlad Levenfeld wrote:
Reading this thread, one gets the impression that Dconf 2015 is
better off taking place in an octagon-shaped cage than a
university lecture hall...
Nerd cage fighting... now there's a reality TV show I would watch.
On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 19:24:59 UTC, Vlad Levenfeld wrote:
Reading this thread, one gets the impression that Dconf 2015 is
better off taking place in an octagon-shaped cage than a
university lecture hall...
Is not that bad. People here make sometimes a lot of noise, but
they never hold
On 2/01/2015 9:55 p.m., Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 1/1/15 2:48 AM, Joakim wrote:
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 19:11:04 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 12/29/14 10:58 AM, Joakim wrote:
It also means more people asking for stuff, then doing nothing to
contribute towards it, as though
On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 10:44:44 UTC, ketmar via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 10:36:14 +
dajones via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 01:17:32 UTC, ketmar via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2015 12:55:28 +
Gary
On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 13:29:45 +
dajones via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
Jeez I feel old.
then you'd better don't know how old i am...
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dajones via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
Jeez I feel old.
then you'd better don't know how old i am...
There I was trying to excuse you for being full of
On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 18:45:49 +
anonymous via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 16:35:17 UTC, dajones wrote:
On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 13:46:00 UTC, ketmar via
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 13:29:45 +
dajones via
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On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 13:46:00 UTC, ketmar via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
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dajones via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
Jeez I feel old.
On 1/1/15 4:55 AM, Gary Willoughby wrote:
The vast majority of users of D will *never* contribute anything *ever*
but they will (from time to time) ask for something. Just deal with it.
Add it to an issue tracker and triage. Users should be put first in all
cases, period!
I agree. But please,
On 1/1/15 2:48 AM, Joakim wrote:
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 19:11:04 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 12/29/14 10:58 AM, Joakim wrote:
It also means more people asking for stuff, then doing nothing to
contribute towards it, as though the D community is their slave labor.
If we, the D
On 2 January 2015 at 15:12, pops via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
Regarding debuggers: keep in mind, windows debuggers
are light years ahead of GDB and friends.
What Linux people refer to as a debugger looks like a stone age
tool to me.
I'm pretty sure this is almost
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dajones via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 01:17:32 UTC, ketmar via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2015 12:55:28 +
Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com
wrote:
Just
On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 01:17:32 UTC, ketmar via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2015 12:55:28 +
Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com
wrote:
Just because you contribute to D it doesn't give you any
authority to get angry at users or:
that's really great.
On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 16:35:17 UTC, dajones wrote:
On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 13:46:00 UTC, ketmar via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 13:29:45 +
dajones via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
Jeez I feel old.
then you'd better don't know how old i am...
Reading this thread, one gets the impression that Dconf 2015 is
better off taking place in an octagon-shaped cage than a
university lecture hall...
On Thu, 01 Jan 2015 12:55:28 +
Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
Just because you contribute to D it doesn't give you any
authority to get angry at users or:
that's really great. Dicebot wrote a long text explaining that he is
not a D dev team
On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 05:12:27 +
pops via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
Regarding debuggers: keep in mind, windows debuggers
are light years ahead of GDB and friends.
What Linux people refer to as a debugger looks like a stone age
tool to me.
...and we, *nix
Regarding debuggers: keep in mind, windows debuggers
are light years ahead of GDB and friends.
What Linux people refer to as a debugger looks like a stone age
tool to me.
+1
you are wright. i think, on the chance of being Willoughbeed,
that there needs to be a real plan.
It must include window users and a windows usable sdk.
On Thursday, 1 January 2015 at 10:48:10 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 19:11:04 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
On
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 19:11:04 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 12/29/14 10:58 AM, Joakim wrote:
It also means more people asking for stuff, then doing nothing
to
contribute towards it, as though the D community is their
slave labor.
If we, the D community, want D to succeed, we
On Wednesday, 31 December 2014 at 21:05:41 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
So, getting back to this. What do I see wrong in this thread?
It creates a clear message : you don't really want to be a D
contributor.
Once you start doing it, all privileges of doubt that belong to
user are lost and bunch of
On Thursday, 1 January 2015 at 12:55:29 UTC, Gary Willoughby
wrote:
On Wednesday, 31 December 2014 at 21:05:41 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
So, getting back to this. What do I see wrong in this thread?
It creates a clear message : you don't really want to be a D
contributor.
Once you start doing it,
On 1 January 2015 at 23:54, Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On Thursday, 1 January 2015 at 13:25:53 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote:
On Thursday, 1 January 2015 at 13:20:46 UTC, Tobias Pankrath wrote:
It's this way for years now, what the fuck are you guys
On Thursday, 1 January 2015 at 13:25:53 UTC, Gary Willoughby
wrote:
On Thursday, 1 January 2015 at 13:20:46 UTC, Tobias Pankrath
wrote:
It's this way for years now, what the fuck are you guys
doing? I won't be doing anything, but you guys have to.
--- Getting angry is totally natural.
True.
On Thursday, 1 January 2015 at 13:20:46 UTC, Tobias Pankrath
wrote:
It's this way for years now, what the fuck are you guys doing?
I won't be doing anything, but you guys have to.
--- Getting angry is totally natural.
True. I hate seeing threads like this when Manu brings some
really useful
On 01/01/15 13:55, Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d wrote:
I'm seriously considering writing a new blog article for reddit, highlighting
the attitudes in this discussion because they are so seriously anti-success.
I think that would be a bad idea, because the most likely result would be only
On Thursday, 1 January 2015 at 13:20:46 UTC, Tobias Pankrath
wrote:
On Thursday, 1 January 2015 at 12:55:29 UTC, Gary Willoughby
wrote:
Just because you contribute to D it doesn't give you any
authority to get angry at users or:
He does not need any permission to get angry. Don't forget that
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 05:43:13 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Often I'll pipe the pretty-printed debug output to a file, as
it can be voluminous, and then actually edit the file to bring
out what I need.
Not possible with a debugger.
I think it is. Here is a small adjustment to
On Thursday, 1 January 2015 at 14:24:36 UTC, Joseph Rushton
Wakeling via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On 01/01/15 13:55, Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d wrote:
I'm seriously considering writing a new blog article for
reddit, highlighting
the attitudes in this discussion because they are so seriously
On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 05:49:45 +
pops via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
Talks about switching from windows to Linux. There are
positives, but the debugging is not one of them.
*nix cultire and windows culture are very different. when switcher
tries to use his windows
...and we, *nix people, thinking the same... about windows
debuggers.
so please, don't call the tool you aren't familiar with stone
age
tool.
https://anteru.net/2014/12/13/2596/
Talks about switching from windows to Linux. There are
positives, but the debugging is not one of them.
Please let it go. There has been said enough to represent views
of different parties, and argument for the sake of the argument
is counterproductive.
On Tuesday, 30 December 2014 at 00:25:28 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Criticism about documentation is actually very well-placed -
it is an issue that
affects everyone, can be fixed in small chunks and does not
require huge effort
investment for each chunk. No one loses, everyone wins, yay!
I
So, getting back to this. What do I see wrong in this thread? It
creates a clear message : you don't really want to be a D
contributor.
Once you start doing it, all privileges of doubt that belong to
user are lost and bunch of obligations suddenly appears. And of
all obligation worst
On 12/29/14 8:54 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 12/29/14 4:25 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 12/29/2014 8:51 AM, Dicebot wrote:
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 16:33:05 UTC, Joakim wrote:
If anybody cared about good Windows debugging support or getting vibe.d
working flawlessly on Windows,
On 12/30/14 4:30 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Please, let's make the build of the documentation be an error on auto
tester. I can say personally, there is so much more involved with
building the docs than I care to deal with. You need all the
repositories, and the dlang.org repository, which
On 29 December 2014 at 03:52, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On 12/28/14 6:43 PM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On 27 December 2014 at 02:21, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On 12/25/14 5:18 PM, Mike Parker
On Saturday, 27 December 2014 at 08:32:29 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
It would also be nice to anticipate that people looking to
operate on strings would look in std.string for things that are
elsewhere. Once upon a time, the std.string docs actually did
have a table of links for functions that
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 09:35:25 UTC, Iain Buclaw via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
The new layout solves half the problem in that it hides the
template
constraints.
http://dlang.org/library/std/algorithm/sort.html
Shouldn't our focus also be to get the new layout out of
preview
mode and do
On Friday, 26 December 2014 at 01:11:42 UTC, Manu via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
Many bug reports and case studies, and often, a persistent
voice for
minority issues that don't get enough attention. My time spent
arguing
in this forum is substantial, and as annoying as it may seem, I
think
if I
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 14:45:37 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On Friday, 26 December 2014 at 01:11:42 UTC, Manu via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
Many bug reports and case studies, and often, a persistent
voice for
minority issues that don't get enough attention. My time spent
arguing
in this forum is
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 15:18:57 UTC, Gary Willoughby
wrote:
This is probably the most disgusting, selfish and deluded posts
i've read on this entire newsgroup.
I am pretty sure I have written worse.
If D is supposed to supplant C/C++, then the needs of those
users *must* be met,
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 15:18:57 UTC, Gary Willoughby
wrote:
This is probably the most disgusting, selfish and deluded posts
i've read on this entire newsgroup.
If D is supposed to supplant C/C++, then the needs of those
users *must* be met, especially without deriding those very
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 16:07:59 UTC, Joakim wrote:
I strongly disagree. Dicebot's post is completely true,
describing exactly how open source projects actually work,
No Dicebot described how open source projects *start*, big
difference.
I don't want to get into a massive argument
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 16:19:35 UTC, Gary Willoughby
wrote:
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 16:07:59 UTC, Joakim wrote:
I strongly disagree. Dicebot's post is completely true,
describing exactly how open source projects actually work,
No Dicebot described how open source projects
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 16:33:05 UTC, Joakim wrote:
If anybody cared about good Windows debugging support or
getting vibe.d working flawlessly on Windows, they'd have done
it already. Now, Manu might bring more attention to those
issues through his post and someone may decide to work
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 14:45:37 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
Wasting effort of core contributors on a toolchain I will
never use is against my interests and makes me naturally
hostile about it.
I don't think it needs to be a zero-sum game. Removing blockers
to entry can make an
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 16:33:05 UTC, Joakim wrote:
But Dicebot is right that users are not the concern of those
outside a small core who contribute to D. Most contributors
are just scratching their own itch, and users are just
potential suckers who might add other features I want. ;)
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 15:34:44 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 15:18:57 UTC, Gary Willoughby
wrote:
This is probably the most disgusting, selfish and deluded
posts i've read on this entire newsgroup.
I am pretty sure I have written worse.
Time out, everyone. I
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 18:42:17 UTC, Joseph Rushton
Wakeling wrote:
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 15:34:44 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
This is widely advertised statement I can't agree with. For me
goal is having working language that works. Getting users is
indirect way to achieve that by
On 12/29/14 10:58 AM, Joakim wrote:
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 18:42:17 UTC, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 15:34:44 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
This is widely advertised statement I can't agree with. For me goal
is having working language that works. Getting users
On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 15:18:56 +
Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
This is probably the most disgusting, selfish and deluded posts
i've read on this entire newsgroup.
fsck. i was sure that this was written about me. i sucked again.
If D is supposed to
I'd better respond when I will not be as angry and tempted to go
into accusation mode.
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 19:34:52 UTC, ketmar via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
please, explain me, *whose* exactly post was disgusting,
selfish and
deluded? 'cause now i'm completely lost.
Ok, i will explain because i think my point should be made clear
and because this thread is giving
On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 20:09:08 +
Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
D, as a project, already has a firmly entrenched goal and it's
motivation is to reach that goal. Anyone contributing to D must
acknowledge that goal and be prepared to sustain it through
On 12/29/2014 8:51 AM, Dicebot wrote:
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 16:33:05 UTC, Joakim wrote:
If anybody cared about good Windows debugging support or getting vibe.d
working flawlessly on Windows, they'd have done it already. Now, Manu might
bring more attention to those issues through his
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 04:25:20PM -0800, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On 12/29/2014 8:51 AM, Dicebot wrote:
[...]
Criticism about documentation is actually very well-placed - it is an
issue that affects everyone, can be fixed in small chunks and does
not require huge effort
On 29 December 2014 at 13:52, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On 12/28/14 6:43 PM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On 27 December 2014 at 02:21, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On 12/25/14 5:18 PM, Mike Parker
On 29 December 2014 at 15:44, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On 12/20/2014 10:08 AM, Daniel Davidson wrote:
Sure, sounds like a winning strategy. Probably not applicable, but were
you to
run into an issue with vibe or websockets would you proceed to write
On 12/29/14 11:59 AM, Dicebot wrote:
I'd better respond when I will not be as angry and tempted to go into
accusation mode.
Very much appreciated. All, please let's keep it civil. -- Andrei
On 12/29/14 4:25 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 12/29/2014 8:51 AM, Dicebot wrote:
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 16:33:05 UTC, Joakim wrote:
If anybody cared about good Windows debugging support or getting vibe.d
working flawlessly on Windows, they'd have done it already. Now,
Manu might
bring
On 30 December 2014 at 04:08, Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 16:33:05 UTC, Joakim wrote:
I don't think it needs to be a zero-sum game. Removing blockers to entry
can make an orders-of-magnitude difference in the number of
On 30 December 2014 at 11:14, Manu turkey...@gmail.com wrote:
On 29 December 2014 at 15:44, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On 12/20/2014 10:08 AM, Daniel Davidson wrote:
Sure, sounds like a winning strategy. Probably not applicable, but were
you to
run
On 12/29/2014 5:14 PM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
That if you don't have source to the library? (as is the overwhelming
standard in my line of work)
You can't instrument code that you don't have.
It's always a big problem debugging inside code you don't have the source to.
How is a
On 12/29/2014 4:49 PM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
I was away on vacation for a week, so couldn't work on this.
What, not working on Christmas? How hard core are you? :-)
I'll see if
I can cook up a bunch of doc-related PR's this week. They *are* very
low-hanging fruit that even
On 12/29/14 2:12 AM, ponce wrote:
On Saturday, 27 December 2014 at 08:32:29 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
It would also be nice to anticipate that people looking to operate on
strings would look in std.string for things that are elsewhere. Once
upon a time, the std.string docs actually did have a
On 27 December 2014 at 02:21, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On 12/25/14 5:18 PM, Mike Parker wrote:
On 12/26/2014 9:48 AM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
Ironically, the string and algorithm functions are probably the worst
offenders, but
On 12/28/14 6:43 PM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On 27 December 2014 at 02:21, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On 12/25/14 5:18 PM, Mike Parker wrote:
On 12/26/2014 9:48 AM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
Ironically, the string and algorithm
On 12/28/2014 7:52 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Thanks, following your feedback I have recently submitted an enhancement
request. Just for the sake of humblebragging, C#'s sort works only on arrays
whereas D's sort (a) returns a statically-informed sorted range with specific
primitives, (b) is
On 12/20/2014 6:04 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2014-12-19 20:20, Walter Bright wrote:
No. It's attributable to I use different methods of debugging.
The dmd source code is littered with debugging aids I've written. The
classic example is having a pretty-printer for each data structure. I
On 12/20/2014 10:08 AM, Daniel Davidson wrote:
Sure, sounds like a winning strategy. Probably not applicable, but were you to
run into an issue with vibe or websockets would you proceed to write pretty
printers for the supplied data structures, the returned data structures, etc,
probably yes,
On Friday, 26 December 2014 at 16:21:24 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
I thought the std.algorithm stuff is decently documented. What
would be the major pain points? -- Andrei
It's fine for someone who is familiar enough with D to decipher
it. Consider the documentation for sum. The first
Mike Parker wrote in message news:wwonahubwyixrseqb...@forum.dlang.org...
ElementEncodingType!(ElementType!RoR)[] join(RoR, R)(RoR ror, R sep) if
(isInputRange!RoR isInputRange!(Unqual!(ElementType!RoR))
isInputRange!R is(Unqual!(ElementType!(ElementType!RoR)) ==
Unqual!(ElementType!R)));
Daniel Murphy:
I agree, the signatures are basically unreadable.
In Scala they have added the @usecase annotation to face this
problem:
https://wiki.scala-lang.org/display/SW/Tags+and+Annotations
From that page:
@usecase simple definition In case the method definition is too
complex, you
On 12/27/2014 6:27 PM, Daniel Murphy wrote:
Mike Parker wrote in message
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ElementEncodingType!(ElementType!RoR)[] join(RoR, R)(RoR ror, R sep)
if (isInputRange!RoR isInputRange!(Unqual!(ElementType!RoR))
isInputRange!R
docs...
SortedRange!(Range, less) sort(alias less = a b, SwapStrategy
ss = SwapStrategy.unstable, Range)(Range r) if ((ss ==
SwapStrategy.unstable (hasSwappableElements!Range ||
hasAssignableElements!Range) || ss != SwapStrategy.unstable
hasAssignableElements!Range) isRandomAccessRange!Range
On 12/27/2014 12:32 AM, Mike Parker wrote:
On Friday, 26 December 2014 at 16:21:24 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
I thought the std.algorithm stuff is decently documented. What would be the
major pain points? -- Andrei
[...]
Thank you for taking the time for a detailed accounting. This is
On 2014-12-26 01:48, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
In this case, my colleague felt it was hard to understand the string
functions, but he got through it (after sending me txt messages to ask
questions).
I recall making the same comments when I first started trying to do
string manipulation in
On 2014-12-27 09:32, Mike Parker wrote:
The proverbial straw that prompted my blog rant back then was to do with
std.string. I wanted to split a string on a specific character. So I
looked in the std.string docs for a split function. There wasn't one.
There's a 'splitLines' -- I don't recall if
On 2014-12-27 09:32, Mike Parker wrote:
auto split(R, E)(R r, E delim) if (isForwardRange!R
is(typeof(ElementType!R.init == E.init)));
auto split(alias isTerminator, R)(R r) if (isForwardRange!R
is(typeof(unaryFun!isTerminator(r.front;
Umm... all I want is to split a string on a specific
On Saturday, 27 December 2014 at 11:42:45 UTC, Jacob Carlborg
wrote:
On 2014-12-27 09:32, Mike Parker wrote:
The proverbial straw that prompted my blog rant back then was
to do with
std.string. I wanted to split a string on a specific
character. So I
looked in the std.string docs for a split
On Sat, 27 Dec 2014 12:46:09 +0100
Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
What we need is simplified signatures in the documentation. The template
constrains could be hidden, then have a button to show them. Same thing
with special default values, i.e. __FILE__,
On 12/27/2014 12:32 AM, Mike Parker wrote:
Wtf is ElementType? Where is R defined? Searching the site for random-access
range will eventually bear fruit, it doesn't help in understanding the whole
function.
A token improvement:
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/phobos/pull/2812
On 12/26/2014 8:21 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
I thought the std.algorithm stuff is decently documented. What would be the
major pain points? -- Andrei
A large number of the algorithms lack one or more of:
1. examples
2. any mention of what they return, and if they do, they do not use a
On Saturday, 27 December 2014 at 20:24:27 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
4. some terms need exposition, like: Implements the homonym
function present in various programming languages of functional
flavor. I have no idea what that means. Googling homonym
function doesn't produce anything that looks
On 12/27/2014 2:14 PM, David Nadlinger wrote:
On Saturday, 27 December 2014 at 20:24:27 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
4. some terms need exposition, like: Implements the homonym function present
in various programming languages of functional flavor. I have no idea what
that means. Googling homonym
On 12/27/14 12:32 AM, Mike Parker wrote:
On Friday, 26 December 2014 at 16:21:24 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
I thought the std.algorithm stuff is decently documented. What would
be the major pain points? -- Andrei
It's fine for someone who is familiar enough with D to decipher it.
On 12/27/14 3:42 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
There's also split vs splitter and join vs joiner. This doesn't
make it easier.
Not to mention findSplit - my all-times favorite. -- Andrei
On 12/27/2014 2:57 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 12/27/14 3:42 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
There's also split vs splitter and join vs joiner. This doesn't
make it easier.
Not to mention findSplit - my all-times favorite. -- Andrei
Just a minute Doc lets not start splitting hares!
On 20 Dec 2014 20:40, Atila Neves via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
FWIW, I'd like to thank you for taking the time (and putting up with some
undeserved abuse for it) to write about your experience in trying to get
other people to adopt D. For some they might be known issues,
On 12/25/14 5:18 PM, Mike Parker wrote:
On 12/26/2014 9:48 AM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
Ironically, the string and algorithm functions are probably the worst
offenders, but coincidentally, there is a high chance that these are
the first functions anyone will ever reach for, so they
On 19 December 2014 at 19:12, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On 12/18/2014 2:24 AM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
Docs need to have examples which are plain and obvious, and the
language will be absorbed by osmosis.
I agree. Can you point to specific
On 21 December 2014 at 03:12, Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On 12/17/2014 09:45 AM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
Well... when? I've been here 6 years. When can I start to use D for my
work?
Other languages seem to have a higher velocity. Are we fighting a
On 20 December 2014 at 19:59, Dicebot via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 07:26:30 UTC, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
Thank you.
I get so frustrated by the apparent majority in this forum who seem to
think 'most' programmers are the type who
Finally, contracts are overwhelming, and it's also a feature of
D that
nobody has seen before. When someone new to D encounters a
contract in
the docs, they no longer trust their ability to usefully
interpret the
documentation, and almost certainly become confused; nobody
expects to
see an
On 19 December 2014 at 23:45, Dicebot via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On Friday, 19 December 2014 at 13:33:08 UTC, Wyatt wrote:
On Friday, 19 December 2014 at 09:15:18 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 12/18/2014 2:24 AM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
People aren't allocated
On 26 December 2014 at 11:11, Kiith-Sa via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
Finally, contracts are overwhelming, and it's also a feature of D that
nobody has seen before. When someone new to D encounters a contract in
the docs, they no longer trust their ability to usefully
On 12/26/2014 9:48 AM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
Ironically, the string and algorithm functions are probably the worst
offenders, but coincidentally, there is a high chance that these are
the first functions anyone will ever reach for, so they present a
terrible first impression.
+1
On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 07:26:30 UTC, Manu via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
Thank you.
I get so frustrated by the apparent majority in this forum who
seem to
think 'most' programmers are the type who would even read or
post on a
forum like this. Or read a programming book! They must surely
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