Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-30 Thread punkUser via Digitalmars-d-announce
I don't normally contribute a lot here but as I've been using a fair mix of C/C++, D and Rust lately for a variety of projects from game dev to web to services, I have a few thoughts. Without exhaustively comparing the different pros/cons of the languages, the most important thing that makes m

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-30 Thread Ecstatic Coder via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Saturday, 30 June 2018 at 07:11:18 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Saturday, 30 June 2018 at 06:52:01 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 22:59:25 UTC, bachmeier wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 20:13:07 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: Have a look at Crystal's Github project, you will s

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-30 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Saturday, 30 June 2018 at 07:28:24 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: On Saturday, 30 June 2018 at 07:11:18 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Saturday, 30 June 2018 at 06:52:01 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: [...] I'd hope a manager would look at actually meaningful stats like downloads, rather than just fluffy

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-30 Thread Ecstatic Coder via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Saturday, 30 June 2018 at 07:11:18 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Saturday, 30 June 2018 at 06:52:01 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 22:59:25 UTC, bachmeier wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 20:13:07 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: Have a look at Crystal's Github project, you will s

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-30 Thread Ecstatic Coder via Digitalmars-d-announce
DasBetterC resolves that, though the library issue remains. Indeed. Unfortunately, it's often the standard library which makes the difference between a nice language, and a nice useful language. D is a great language not only because of the many great decisions you made when designing the l

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-30 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Saturday, 30 June 2018 at 06:52:01 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 22:59:25 UTC, bachmeier wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 20:13:07 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: Have a look at Crystal's Github project, you will see that Crystal, still in development and quite far from

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread Ecstatic Coder via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 22:59:25 UTC, bachmeier wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 20:13:07 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: Have a look at Crystal's Github project, you will see that Crystal, still in development and quite far from its 1.0 mile version (= despite no parallism and windows support,

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Saturday, 30 June 2018 at 03:02:15 UTC, Joakim wrote: Honestly, Dmitry's posts The writing style doesn't match the name.

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 22:54:34 UTC, bachmeier wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 07:03:52 UTC, Dmitry Olshansky wrote: P.S. I mean what you think the future of native code is??? Rust? Crystal?? Nim??? The future of native code will be replacing scripting languages. D is really good at th

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread bachmeier via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 20:13:07 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: Have a look at Crystal's Github project, you will see that Crystal, still in development and quite far from its 1.0 mile version (= despite no parallism and windows support, etc) ALREADY has 11206 stars, 881 forks and 292 contribut

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread bachmeier via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 07:03:52 UTC, Dmitry Olshansky wrote: P.S. I mean what you think the future of native code is??? Rust? Crystal?? Nim??? The future of native code will be replacing scripting languages. D is really good at that task. The future of native code will not be one langua

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 6/29/2018 1:43 AM, Ecstatic Coder wrote: Game development is a very special use case, but personally I don't think that many of those who use C++ for close-to-the-metal development should be that much interested in switching to D, because most of its standard libraries depend on the presence

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread Ecstatic Coder via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 20:51:56 UTC, bauss wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 20:13:07 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 19:46:06 UTC, bauss wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 19:42:56 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 17:09:44 UTC, JN wrote: On Friday

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread bauss via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 20:13:07 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 19:46:06 UTC, bauss wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 19:42:56 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 17:09:44 UTC, JN wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 08:43:34 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote:

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread Ecstatic Coder via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 19:46:06 UTC, bauss wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 19:42:56 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 17:09:44 UTC, JN wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 08:43:34 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: Once Crystal integrates parallelism (at 1.0), it should become

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread Ecstatic Coder via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 18:48:19 UTC, bauss wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 17:08:12 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: If you're a web developer with no dependencies then youre either reinventing the wheel (could cause trouble in the long run, if your implementations aren't correct.) Or your app

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread bauss via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 19:42:56 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 17:09:44 UTC, JN wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 08:43:34 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: Once Crystal integrates parallelism (at 1.0), it should become de facto one of the best alternative to Go, Java, C#,

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread Ecstatic Coder via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 17:09:44 UTC, JN wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 08:43:34 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: Once Crystal integrates parallelism (at 1.0), it should become de facto one of the best alternative to Go, Java, C#, etc, because it's actually "Go-made-right". For instance it's g

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread bauss via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 17:08:12 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: If you're a web developer with no dependencies then youre either reinventing the wheel (could cause trouble in the long run, if your implementations aren't correct.) Or your application just isn't more than a hobby project. Most e

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread Ecstatic Coder via Digitalmars-d-announce
If you're a web developer with no dependencies then youre either reinventing the wheel (could cause trouble in the long run, if your implementations aren't correct.) Or your application just isn't more than a hobby project. Most enterprise projects will have dependencies outside standard libr

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread JN via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 08:43:34 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: Once Crystal integrates parallelism (at 1.0), it should become de facto one of the best alternative to Go, Java, C#, etc, because it's actually "Go-made-right". For instance it's genericity system works well, and its type inference

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread Bauss via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 12:32:46 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 10:06:12 UTC, bauss wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 08:43:34 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: As you know, I'm convinced that D could be marketed as the perfect language to develop native web servers and mobil

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread Ecstatic Coder via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 10:06:12 UTC, bauss wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 08:43:34 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: As you know, I'm convinced that D could be marketed as the perfect language to develop native web servers and mobile applications, and have its core libraries somewhat extended i

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread jmh530 via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 07:03:52 UTC, Dmitry Olshansky wrote: [snip] I'm a little confused. You're going to send $10 a day to D Foundation because you're upset about people complaining about D? I have my donation come through my paycheck. Company matches up to a certain amount a year. It

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread bauss via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 08:43:34 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: As you know, I'm convinced that D could be marketed as the perfect language to develop native web servers and mobile applications, and have its core libraries somewhat extended in thqg direction, like Go and Crystal which allow "plu

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread Ecstatic Coder via Digitalmars-d-announce
Anyway, I try to avoid GC as much as possible. The main issue for me in game development with D is the cross-compilation (e.g. iOS, Windows Universal Platform..). +1 That's why I don't think C++ will be soon replaced by Rust, D, etc Maybe in a few years, but obviously not right now...

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread Gheorghe Gabriel via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 08:43:34 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 07:03:52 UTC, Dmitry Olshansky wrote:> For engine and game development I'm still using C++, despite I prefer D, and believe me this won't change for a while. Game development is a very special use case, b

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread Ecstatic Coder via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 07:03:52 UTC, Dmitry Olshansky wrote: I never ever (I think) did something provocative, something to finally see: - who in the community WANTS D language to succeed? - who are just these funny “people” let’s call th this, that are I don’t know “just hang around” B

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread Ecstatic Coder via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 07:03:52 UTC, Dmitry Olshansky wrote: I never ever (I think) did something provocative, something to finally see: - who in the community WANTS D language to succeed? - who are just these funny “people” let’s call th this, that are I don’t know “just hang around” B

Re: I have a plan.. I really DO

2018-06-29 Thread Dmitry Olshansky via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 07:03:52 UTC, Dmitry Olshansky wrote: I never ever (I think) did something provocative, something to finally see: - who in the community WANTS D language to succeed? - who are just these funny “people” let’s call th this, that are I don’t know “just hang around” B

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