Hi all,
Is anyone in Europe interested in making tests with RFSM-8000? I am
QRV some times on 14.109,5 calling CQ RFSM and in Server Mode.
If anyone is interested please let know so that we can arrange a SKED.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Demetre SV1UY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Had a short RFSM QSO with OH2QN.
>
> 73 de SV1UY
>
Sorry,
The callsign of my QSO was OH3QN, Jarmo from Lahti.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
Had a short RFSM QSO with OH2QN.
73 de SV1UY
Hi,
I am sending short RFSM8000 beacons right now on 14,109.5 KHZ carrier
frequency. Anyone interested?
73 de Demetre SV1UY
court of law when the judge is ignorant about ham radio and
digital modes in particular, unless if radio waves can actually kill.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
:
--
Really what the FCC will decide concerns the american hams not the
rest of the world. If this group is only for americans then fair enough.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
at 1900z
FB Jack,
I will try again at 19.00z although probability is 1-25% because
ShortPath MUF is on 12MHZ at that time but you never know. LongPath
MUF is 14MHZ but really the best time for LongPath QSO between us is
07.00z - 10.00z, but you might be busy then.
>
> 73s Jack VK4JRC
>
73 de Demetre SV1UY
py to change anything
> needed. Just had to start somewhere :-)
> Sadly, my antenna cannot accommodate 30 metres..
Calling you now on 21.078 Jack. I will also try your 18MHZ and 14MHZ qrgs.
>
> 73s
>
> Jack VK4JRC
>
73 de Demetre SV1UY
p trying different
times until we can link.
> Back to yourscheduledprogramme!
>
> 73s
>
> Jack VK4JRC
>
73 de Demetre SV1UY
gt;
> 73s
>
> Jack VK4JRC (I am off to play Pactor & Packet!)
>
73 de Demetre SV1UY
x27;t like lawyers!!
>
> de Roger W6VZV
>
73 de Demetre SV1UY
Hi all,
Too many lawyers in USA killed PACKET RADIO. The way you are going on
you are going to kill all DIGITAL RADIO too.
Hey guys hold your horses. It is a hobby not a court of law.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
me lessons from these guys in Germany, France, Switzerland and also
in Holland where they also still have a decent Packet Network as I
read in various Radio Amateur lists.
I am sure that some radio amateurs that live in these places and are
also members of this list can tell us much more than I said. We can
definatelly take some lessons from them.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
e some of my views, from my perspective,
>
> 73,
>
> Jose, CO2JA
73 de Demetre SV1UY
untains here in Greece. I live next to a mountain in Athens. My best
DX is ZL-land using 5 watts (and as low as 0.5 watts while still
holding the QSO) and handheld antennas at both ends (more than 22000
kms via the LONGPATH). We did this consistently for many months in
2001 when the propagation was very good.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
en to death already. People get sick of hearing about it all the time.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
er PA0R, which is better than nothing at all.
Also I saw lately NBEMS trying to do the same as PSKmail although I
like PSKmail much more than NBEMS.
Both can be called "The poor man's Winlink2000", but really they leave
a lot to be desired as far as speed and good behaviour in bad HF
propagation is concerned.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
end I had to buy an SCS Controller because as you know it is
superior in PACTOR and in PACKET RADIO.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
P.S. What happened with this petition that was attempting to bring
digital modes into the 19th century? Does anyone knows
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Leigh L Klotz, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> And MFSK, Olivia, and Domino EX. They are (or can be) <=500Hz.
> Leigh/WA5ZNU
Thanks for letting us know Leigh. Never worked these modes OM.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Demetre SV1UY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> And don't forget that really it does not matter if you use USB or LSB
> and you can always flick the REVERSE SWITCH. This is true for all
> narrow digital modes with the except
everybody uses USB. I believe the
same is true for the rest of the wide modes.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
Hi Ned/EI5DS,
Thanks for the PACTOR QSOs today. Even with S0 signals we managed the
QSO thanks to PACTOR! Hope to see you tomorrow sometime. I will post
to Andy's SKED PAGE and here first and hopefully we can have some more
QSOs on 20m.
HAPPY NEW YEAR to you and all.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
Calling CQ PACTOR on 7.038 KHZ (center frequency).
Just finished a 20 minutes QSO in PACTOR II with OZ1PMX. Despite the
QRM and zero signals the link kept going right through the end.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
but no further for today I'm afraid.
I will try at 18.00 - 20.00 UTC on 30 and 40 meters (10.141 KHZ and
7.038 KHZ).
73 de Demetre SV1UY
Hi Nick and all,
Happy New Year. I am calling CQ on PACTOR right now and I will
continue until 16.00 UTC.
Anyone from USA interested please reply on PACTOR 1 or 2.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
this
protocol there is no problem. Some soundcard programs have a SOFTWARE
REVERSE SWITCH so that you can change it in case there is any
incompatibility in the tone pairs.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
l the modes, except SSTV with the little DOS
Palmtop Computer the size of 2 cigarette boxes.
Before I got the SCS PTC-IIe I did the same with a KAM TNC.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
ese times so we
should be OK.
Is it 14.0755 MARK or CENTER FREQUENCY you are using?
I sometimes hang around 14.080 KHZ Center Frequency, so if we cannot
make it tomorrow you can try to call me.
73 and HAPPY PACTORING NEW YEAR to all!!!
de Demetre SV1UY
r program, they
keep their code to themselves. Of course it is everyone's right to
protect their code and I do not blame anyone here, I am just stating a
fact.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Roger J. Buffington"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Demetre SV1UY wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > Sorry if I made you upset Roger, but you insist on something you do
> > not know very well and always try to prove that
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Roger J. Buffington"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Demetre SV1UY wrote:
>
> > Well,
> >
> > I have a KAM controller with PACTOR 1. I bet you have not even seen
> > one.
>
> You know, Demetre, I am
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Roger J. Buffington"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Demetre SV1UY wrote:
>
> > Hi Rick,
> >
> > Well my old KAM Controller with it's addon PCB for supporting PACTOR
> > 1 definatelly has Memory ARQ. M
C. Unless if you want to go back to the Medieval
Times for Digital communications in the Ham bands.
> 73,
>
> Rick, KV9U
73 de Demetre SV1UY
nd because PACTOR and Winlink-2000 are Radio Amateur Systems.
I always use Winlink-2000 during my Summer Vacations. It's a hobby and
I personally enjoy it as much as I enjoy, RTTY, SSTV etc.
>
> de Roger W6VZV
>
73 de Demetre SV1UY
P.S. Finally if the petition wins in USA you will ha
e Amateur Communication system that
exists today OM. If the word "Great" makes you angry, I can stop using
it, although it is a Great system really.
>
> de Roger W6VZV
>
73 de Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Roger J. Buffington"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Demetre SV1UY wrote:
> >
> > You have your opinion and I have mine. Now if you can't be bothered
> > to look for PACTOR keyboard to keyboard QSOS this is your pr
nd nobody ever user since all the LIDS could stop their DATA
transmissionwhenevr they pleased, just like some people proposed in
this list using Anti-PACTOR missiles. Hi Hi Hi!!!
73 de Demetre SV1UY
ateur Global Communication
System just because sometimes af few ,ignorant perhaps, of it's users
spoil your SSB QSO then go ahead and do it. This is supposed to be a
free world but in a free world we should always be a bit more
tolerant, don't you think?
73 de Demetre SV1UY
P.S. as for autom
Finally if you are so adament about such a detector why don't you
write one that works (you already own an SCS MODEM) and give it for
free to the Radio Amateur community?
I know why. If you did that you would not have anything to whine about!!!
73 de Demetre SV1UY
Oh,
I nearly forgot to ask you Dave, what's the matter with you and
PACTOR-3? Has uncle Steve been bad to you recently? I can help you know!!!
73 de Demetre de SV1UY
P.S. Please smile, this is only a hobby OM. MERRY CHRISTMAS and a
HAPPY NEW YEAR to all.
ight now so I guess I am saved for the time being!
73 de Demetre SV1UY
P.S. Please have a good drink OM, you might forget about PACTOR 3.
It's Christmas after all.
the rich tanned German guy, is it illegal to be rich and tanned now?
Should we ban from the hobby the tanned rich Germans now?
73 de Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> +++ more AA6YQ comments below
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Demetre SV1UY"
> wrote:
>
> >>>QRM from PMBOs and other deaf robots spoils the
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>>AA6YQ comments below
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "kh6ty" wrote:
>
> >I am quoting here my reply to DAVE about his Anti-radiation missiles
> tuned to PACTOR PMBO frequencies for your information!
PMBOs), what about HF APRS Digis?
What are you going to do about all them?
Fix the HF bands first and then blame PACTOR PMBOs and automatic
operations.
Forget about PACTOR 3 being the problem because it isn't.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
--QUOTED MESSAGE From Dave
he FCC) as you like, although
you do understand you are wrong, and if you have a PACTOR MODEM and
have not understood it's use yet then I am sorry for you because
nothing comes even close to PACTOR 3 for emergency comms OM.
> 73,
>
> Dave, AA6YQ
>
73 de Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, W2XJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Demetre SV1UY wrote:
>
> > First of all not many can afford a satellite phone, which is also not
> > amateur radio. A satellite phone plus connection fees are far more
> > expensive than a
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> +++additional AA6YQ comments below
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Demetre SV1UY"
> wrote:
>
> >>>Currently deployed PMBOs have no way to relia
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>Currently deployed PMBOs have no way to reliably determine whether
> or not the frequency is locally clear. They may be configured to detect
> Pactor signals, but they cannot detect signals in any other mode.
>
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, W2XJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well I do travel in remote portions of our South West. I carry an IC
> 7000 and a VX-7. But I also have a satellite phone and an emergency
> locater in addition to my normal cell phone. It is important to
separate
> business
ication. Makes sense doesn't it? At least I hope it
does to you!!!
73 de Demetre SV1UY
f the countries of this world the administrations do not give a damn
about band segments and all this stuff. The subbands are really
gentlements agreement! (no offence to gentledames of course who I
admire). FCC only rules USA. Don't forget the rest of the world. The
rest of the world has more radio hams than USA.
Merry Christmas!!!
73 de Demetre SV1UY
n the hobby OM.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New year and smile a bit OM!
Winlink, PACKET RADIO or e-mail, etc. are not evil! They are just
another form of DIGITAL MODES which you might not like but others like
them so there!!!
73 de Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Roger J. Buffington"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Demetre SV1UY wrote:
>
> > Well,
> >
> > Do we really need contests, ragchewing, voice qsos, voice nets, cw
> > qsos, cw nets, on HF? Realy it all depen
guys
pleasure might be someone else's discomfort, but when an emergency
arises then I think that everyone else's hobby needs must back off for
a while until the emergency is over. I think this is fair! When human
lives are in danger then everything else should be of a lower priority.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
woudln't you?
>
> 73,
>
> Wa;t/K5YFW
>
Hi Walt,
Actually it is better if not many amateurs get a PTC-II modem since
this way I and othe PACTOR 3 users have a better chance of connecting
to a Winlink2000 PMBO and download our e-mail!
Never thought about that have you? hi hi hi!!!
73 de Demetre SV1UY
minutes of individual fame is not worth the damage your personal
opinions could cause to us all.
Post by (NOT WRITTEN BY):
Bill Rimmer, N5LYG
EC Northwest Harris County A.R.E.S.
=
73 de Demetre SV1UY
if they let you build an HF
network, hi hi hi!!! I will be watching your WEB SITE closely for
announcements.
> Rud Merriam K5RUD
> ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX
> http://TheHamNetwork.net
>
73 de Demetre SV1UY
there is always a problem my friend!
> 73,
>
> Dave, AA6YQ
73 de Demetre SV1UY
w does your question relate to the discussion?
Then why you should transmit any other mode in the wide digital
subbands and complain that you have been QRMed by wide digital modes?
>
>73,
>
> Dave, AA6YQ
73 de Demetre SV1UY
ot;. Or to paraphrase Demetre, "stay off
> our highway".
>
Do you ever transmit SSB in the CW or DIGITAL subbands Dave? I'd love
to see you doing that!
>73,
>
>Dave, AA6YQ
73 de Demetre SV1UY
't think people have changed a
lot since then.
> 73,
>
> Dave, AA6YQ
>
73 de Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>In the land of HF, the hiking paths and highways overlap. Thus,
> your "simple and logical solution" simply doesn't work. We need
> polite drivers.
OK go and take a hike at the highway then and hope for the
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Demetre SV1UY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Bernstein" wrote:
> >
> > >>>Since the initiator is typically remote from the PMBO, the
> > initiator
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>>Since the initiator is typically remote from the PMBO, the
> initiator cannot reliably determine that PMBO will not QRM an ongoing
> QSO. You could activate a PMBO in England on a frequency that sounds
> clea
y only respond if and when they are called by a client and the
client is responsible for the QRM they cause. So any claims that they
cause willful interference is not true.
> 73,
>
> Dave, AA6YQ
>
73 de Demetre SV1UY
it out, the less impressed I have been:( I am
> sorry to
> report that, because I really thought that I would like it,
> considering
> the intense hype about Linux.
Well keep using Microsoft then (a closed and proprietary system, just
like an SCS modem) and stop complaining and p
night...
>
> de Peter K1PGV
>
Oh no Peter and I thought it was digital modes that do that! hi hi hi!!
73 de Demetre SV1UY
mailboxes and wideband digital modes have their own place.
Good reading everyone.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
r 3 has any chance of making it through
these conditions OM. Everything else fails.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
the Web but the program is nowhere to be seen. There
are a lot of references about it, but no TNC.COM etc anywhere to be
downloaded.
Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or here if you have it.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
Hi Steinar,
Just finished calling.
One of these days we'll make it.
73 de SV1UY
OK Steinar,
I can hear you but maybe I am doing something wrong with my MultiPSK.
73 de SV1UY
16]
> [20h14m36s] CQ SV1UY>LA5VNA [20h14m36.42s] [CRC OK]
>
>
>
OK Still here,
I've put my wife in bed! hi hi hi!!!
She is a good one! hi hi hi!!!
73 de Demetre SV1UY
P.S. all of a sudden my mouse was dissappearing, I had to put 2
ferrite rings on each end. Now it works.
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>
> QSY 14.109,5. I have a better antenna for 20m
>
> la5vna Steinar
OK Steinar I am there now,
But 40m is the best band for this time of the day.
SF=67 which is too low.
73 de SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Hi Demetre,
>
> I heard you but you was to weak.
>
> 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Had we used PACTOR 3 Steinar we would have managed to have a QSO.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
P.S. Going QRT now.
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Hi Demetre,
>
> I heard you but you was to weak.
>
> 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
>
OK still calling but now on 100 Watts.
Will stop in 1 minute.
73 de SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am calling CQ in ARQ FAE mode on 10.136,5 now.
>
> Please answer if you hear me :)
>
> 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
>
OK I am calling you now.
73 de SV1UY
Hi Steinar,
If you are still at your PC can we try 10MHZ?
73 de Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>
> Demetre,
>
> Care for trying on 14.109,5 now ?
>
> LA5VNA Steinar
>
OK Steinar, trying now 20:43 UTC
73 de SV1UY
n and as a European you can guess which way I
prefer to do things.
PACTOR and a QRP rig is the best combination IMO.
> --
> MSc. José A Amador
73 de Demetre SV1UY
not very
efficient on 80.
I have a question, Why my TX/RX tones are on 1625Hz when I am on ARQ
FAE mode? I have setup 1500 Hz in the config window and when I am on
any other mode it is indeed 1500 Hz.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
e SSTV is not a digital
mode, despite of what other might say.
Thanks for letting me know your experiences with PACTOR 3.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Roger J. Buffington"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Demetre SV1UY wrote:
> >
> > -
> >
> > So if I were you and the above description covers you I would
buy an
> > SCS-modem. The cheapest one is the PT
19.00 UTC, give us 10 extra minutes since I
will arrive at home at 19.00 UTC tonight.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew O'Brien"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is a Pactor III modem worth considering for general ham radio
> applications. If I spend a $1000 on a modem , what do I get? Is it a
> thousand dollars superior to Olivia or MT63? Will I be able to have
> reliab
.
OF course I'm no expert but 375 bps? Unless there is some
misunderstanding somewhere. But 2 Khz for 375 bps is a wast of
bandwidth I think.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
tone represent one of the 8
> different three-bit patterns. Thus the bps rate is actually 3 times
> the baud rate.
>
OK Robert,
Is it always 125X3 then? in which case the throughput will be 375 bps?
73 de Demetre SV1UY
peed is 125 bauds as the other ALE modes.
>
> 73
> Patrick
Hi again Patrick,
How difficult is it to make 125 bauds faster, say 800 - 1200 bps so
that it can at least compete with PACTOR II?
73 de Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>>AA6YQ comments below
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Demetre SV1UY" wrote:
>
> Some like to argue on internet than get on the air!!!
>
&g
peed is 125 bauds as the other ALE modes.
>
> 73
> Patrick
Thanks Patrick,
I will try to participate in your skeds. Please let me know when are
you going to be on.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
t is
> easier to get aggravated.
>
>
> Rud Merriam K5RUD
Hi Rud,
Some like to argue on internet than get on the air!!!
73 de Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Hi Rick
>
> Calling on 14.109 now
>
> LA5VNA Steinar
Hi Steinar,
What is the effective speed of ARQ FAE please?
73 de Demetre SV1UY
Hi,
I am QRV now and until 15.00z at 14.105 KHZ (center frequency) on
PACTOR1, 2 or 3. I plan to do the same every Sunday from now on.
You are all invited for a QSO.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
d we should all be
a bit more tolerant since we are only doing a hobby here and if
sometimes we cannot avoid the hidden transmitter syndrome (which by
the way does not cause problems all that often) and cause some QRM to
each other it is not the end of the world. Some seem to forget the
most important Radio Amateur Rule about "Courtesy".
73 de Demetre SV1UY
ng it already on the 20 nanometer band and we
don't know yet. No problems with PACTOR operators that do not listen
before they transmit and spoil PSK QSOs there I guess.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
lly among contesters.
This does not make contests and the rest of the contesters bad. They
like contests, let them have them.
We can all share our bands happily.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
I still like PSK31
for a QSO because this is way to make DX though but not for
filetransfers, e-mail etc over HF channels.
And remember PACTOR 3 is not WINLINK. Winlink uses PACTOR 3 (it is not
the only system that uses it) and if some think that they do not use
it correctly, well it is a matter of opinion.
Life is too short man, enjoy it while you can.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
pest too? Is SSB voice a
pest too? Don't tell me about the Winlink Mboxes that do not listen
before they transmit because the SCS controllers have the option to
listen before transmit. It is the Winlink people that have decided not
to use it.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
dead cheap secondhand laptop.
If this is not cheap for a decent HF Digital ARQ mode then I do not
know what it is.
Nevertheless I would happily get rid of my PACTOR 3 controllers if I
saw something that can do half as good as PACTOR 3 and it can perform
well with a low power portable radio, and of course if it manages to
transfer intact files on HF, not half intact as pure FEC systems can.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
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