On 10/07/2010 12:50 AM, Paul A Norman wrote:
> Design: 'The Office Liberaton Front" :)
I read that as "Office Liberation Font".
[It is a toss up as to which font is worse: Office Liberation or
Microsoft Comic Sans.]
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Le 2010-10-06 22:56, Scott Furry a écrit :
On 06/10/10 08:19 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 19:59 -0600, Scott Furry wrote:
[snip]
I thought the original suggestion was a very funny joke and did not take
it seriously, and I thought the comments by Marc were in the same vein.
On 06/10/10 08:19 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 19:59 -0600, Scott Furry wrote:
[snip]
I thought the original suggestion was a very funny joke and did not take
it seriously, and I thought the comments by Marc were in the same vein.
Lighten up, mate.
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I did mention
On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 19:59 -0600, Scott Furry wrote:
[snip]
I thought the original suggestion was a very funny joke and did not take
it seriously, and I thought the comments by Marc were in the same vein.
Lighten up, mate.
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Sorry ... down here in the antipodes Front doesn't imply or invoke such pas
sion!
We have storm fronts, weather fronts, and shop or store fronts -- but
no history of bad fronts that unfortuneately have evoked such sad
memories else where.
Paul
On 7 October 2010 14:59, Scott Furry wrote:
> On 0
On 06/10/10 07:17 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
Marc,
Nice thought. I like it.
However, put that en francais...
Front d'Liberation Buereau? (FLB - apologizes for bad French)
I should point out that some may have an issue with the idea of a
"Front" as it has some rather negative connotations. Also histor
Marc,
Nice thought. I like it.
However, put that en francais...
Front d'Liberation Buereau? (FLB - apologizes for bad French)
I should point out that some may have an issue with the idea of a
"Front" as it has some rather negative connotations. Also history may
work against this idea (do a wiki s
On 06/10/10 06:50 PM, Paul A Norman wrote:
Design: 'The Office Liberaton Front" :)
On 7 October 2010 12:51, Marc Paré wrote:
Le 2010-10-06 19:02, Roman Gelbort a écrit :
El 06/10/10 16:32, Marc Paré escribió:
We could have our own ti-dyed T-shirt with LibO on them. :-)
Oh and the pens too
Design: 'The Office Liberaton Front" :)
On 7 October 2010 12:51, Marc Paré wrote:
> Le 2010-10-06 19:02, Roman Gelbort a écrit :
>>
>> El 06/10/10 16:32, Marc Paré escribió:
>>>
>>> We could have our own ti-dyed T-shirt with LibO on them. :-)
>>>
>>> Oh and the pens too!
>>
>> We need the artwor
Le 2010-10-06 19:02, Roman Gelbort a écrit :
El 06/10/10 16:32, Marc Paré escribió:
We could have our own ti-dyed T-shirt with LibO on them. :-)
Oh and the pens too!
We need the artwork... someone did something?
No we are just musing. (Estamos hablando de los T-shirts solamente para
diver
El 06/10/10 16:32, Marc Paré escribió:
> We could have our own ti-dyed T-shirt with LibO on them. :-)
>
> Oh and the pens too!
We need the artwork... someone did something?
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Le 2010-10-06 15:01, Per Eriksson a écrit :
Hi Marc,
Marc Paré skrev 2010-10-06 20:37:
I believe it was just a "test try" with the idea that it would then be
made as an example in various languages for interested people. And it
certainly was not a LibO project. Just people talking about it. It
Hi Marc,
Marc Paré skrev 2010-10-06 20:37:
I believe it was just a "test try" with the idea that it would then be
made as an example in various languages for interested people. And it
certainly was not a LibO project. Just people talking about it. It
would still be nice if there were a spot
Le 2010-10-06 11:28, Jon Hamkins a écrit :
On 10/04/2010 05:56 PM, jonathon wrote:
On 10/03/2010 07:15 PM, Lane Lester wrote:
The fact that people are proposing making audio files available so
people will know how to pronounce the name is a great illustration of
how bad the name is.
Americans
On 10/04/2010 05:56 PM, jonathon wrote:
> On 10/03/2010 07:15 PM, Lane Lester wrote:
>> The fact that people are proposing making audio files available so
>> people will know how to pronounce the name is a great illustration of
>> how bad the name is.
>
> Americans suffer from this disease known
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> > Oh Dude - you so funny...
>
> I don't understand what that means.
>
> *ducks*
Yo Steven,
I believe that in this instance you are using
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I don't understand what that means.
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On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 00:56 +, jonathon wrote:
> On 10/03/2010 07:15 PM, Lane Lester wrote:
> > so people will know how to pronounce the name is a great illustration o
> f how bad the name is.
>
> Americans suffer from this disease known as acute monolingualism. If TV
> did not exist, American
I don't like the name LibreOffice but the I like acronym LibO. Before to
read the LibO name I was thinking some names but after read it I thought
that it is an ideal name and I like the idea to make it the official name
but maintaining the name of LibreOffice as accessory, one example of this
can b
On 10/03/2010 07:15 PM, Lane Lester wrote:
> so people will know how to pronounce the name is a great illustration o
f how bad the name is.
Americans suffer from this disease known as acute monolingualism. If TV
did not exist, Americans would not be able to talk to each other,
because they would n
"Libre" is an excellent choice. Most people in the world are not
native English speakers.
There will be few problems understanding "LibreOffice." It is likely
to be more universally understood than "OpenOffice."
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"Libre" is an excellent choice. It is much more than just free of
cost; it means free of restrictions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratis_versus_Libre
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Let me second that libreoffice is a really poor choice, for all the
reasons Graham enumerates. Also, "libre" is not a word that means
anything to most English-only speakers, and its pronunciation is the
same as Libra, the astrology sign. Libreoffice is difficult to
pronounce, and difficult to und
Hi Varun, *,
Varun Mittal schrieb:
>I have been reading the arguments and come to a simple suggestion.
>Lets create a poll( a lot of free sites, out there), and let everyone
> vote. We can list all the suggested names and whichever is preferred
> by community be acceptable
I'm not amused to see
Hi Graham, all!
Am Montag, den 04.10.2010, 13:55 +1300 schrieb Graham Lauder:
> On Monday 04 Oct 2010 10:10:41 Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > Let me clear so that we can move on: Unless Oracle gives us the trademark o
> > f
> > OpenOffice.org, we're using LibreOffice, and some people
Christoph Noack wrote:
> Here is the posting:
> http://luxate.blogspot.com/2010/10/agreeing-on-childs-name-simple-task.html
>
> And already on the new planet (yeah!):
> http://planet.documentfoundation.org/
Let me add just one small bit of information: the OOo (and now LibO)
community is in the
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Charles Marcus >w
> rote:
>
> I consider things are. So if such, we could have an open discussion on the
> list about what the community at large consider a first name. Remember that
> at the moment everyt
Hello All,
I have been reading the arguments and come to a simple suggestion.
Lets create a poll( a lot of free sites, out there), and let everyone vote.
We can list all the suggested names and whichever is preferred by community
be acceptable
I personally feel, no sustainable product was made o
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Charles Marcus w
rote:
> On 2010-10-03 5:10 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> > Let me clear so that we can move on: Unless Oracle gives us the
> > trademark of OpenOffice.org, we're using LibreOffice, and some people
> > love it, some people hate it, but as a matter o
On 03/10/10 07:55 PM, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2010-10-03 5:10 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Let me clear so that we can move on: Unless Oracle gives us the
trademark of OpenOffice.org, we're using LibreOffice, and some people
love it, some people hate it, but as a matter of fact, we're not
chan
On 2010-10-03 5:10 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> Let me clear so that we can move on: Unless Oracle gives us the
> trademark of OpenOffice.org, we're using LibreOffice, and some people
> love it, some people hate it, but as a matter of fact, we're not
> changing it anymore, so it's useless to req
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 13:55 +1300, Graham Lauder wrote:
> On Monday 04 Oct 2010 10:10:41 Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > Let me clear so that we can move on: Unless Oracle gives us the trademark o
> > f
> > OpenOffice.org, we're using LibreOffice, and some people love it, some
> > peop
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 11:16 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-10-04, Graham Lauder wrote:
>
> > Document Foundation is obviously cast in stone because that is a legal
> > entity
> > but the product name should be up for discussion right now when it's most
> > sensible.
>
> Being
On Mon, 2010-10-04, Graham Lauder wrote:
> Document Foundation is obviously cast in stone because that is a legal entity
> but the product name should be up for discussion right now when it's most
> sensible.
Being pedantic here, according to Sophie in a note on a thread titled
'[Legalese] "Fo
On Monday 04 Oct 2010 10:10:41 Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Let me clear so that we can move on: Unless Oracle gives us the trademark o
> f
> OpenOffice.org, we're using LibreOffice, and some people love it, some
> people hate it, but as a matter of fact, we're not changing it anymore, so
Cuba Libre came to my mind too. I think that's well-enough known among
Americans (in the USA) that it might be useful when explaining
LibreOffice to them in the future.
Perhaps it will become a tradition to drink such cocktails at informal
meetings of LibreOffice volunteers in the future:
http://e
Hi,
I think LibreOffice is a good name (to becoming a brand), at least for a
person living in Finland. It is really easy to pronounce (for us), and
everybody can intuitively understand the message "free office". In Finnish
free is "vapaus", but we have good a educational system, and I believe ever
Folks,
Let me clear so that we can move on: Unless Oracle gives us the trademark o
f
OpenOffice.org, we're using LibreOffice, and some people love it, some
people hate it, but as a matter of fact, we're not changing it anymore, so
it's useless to request a change.
Thanks,
Charles.
2010/10/3 Ale
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrot
e:
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Mirek M. wrote:
>
>> 2010/10/3 Graham Lauder
>>
>> > On Sunday 03 Oct 2010 20:55:11 Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
>> > > On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 19:21 +1300, Graham Lauder wrote:
>> > > > Antonio,
>> > > >
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Mirek M. wrote:
> 2010/10/3 Graham Lauder
>
> > On Sunday 03 Oct 2010 20:55:11 Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 19:21 +1300, Graham Lauder wrote:
> > > > Antonio,
> > > > You in fact wear the best argument for a unique name in your sig.
> Who
2010/10/3 Graham Lauder
> On Sunday 03 Oct 2010 20:55:11 Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> > On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 19:21 +1300, Graham Lauder wrote:
> > > Antonio,
> > > You in fact wear the best argument for a unique name in your sig. Who
> is
> > > arguably the most successful Open Source company: R
On Sunday 03 Oct 2010 20:55:11 Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 19:21 +1300, Graham Lauder wrote:
> > Antonio,
> > You in fact wear the best argument for a unique name in your sig. Who is
> > arguably the most successful Open Source company: Red Hat
> >
> > What in gods name does
Lane Lester wrote:
> The fact that people are proposing making audio files available so people
> will know how to pronounce the name is a great illustration of how bad the
> name is.
> Many of the times I recommend OpenOffice to people, I do so orally. I don't
> see the day when I would want to re
The fact that people are proposing making audio files available so people
will know how to pronounce the name is a great illustration of how bad the
name is.
Many of the times I recommend OpenOffice to people, I do so orally. I don't
see the day when I would want to recommend LO orally. I think mo
On 03/10/10 08:21, Graham Lauder wrote:
> On Sunday 03 Oct 2010 15:00:04 Antonio Olivares wrote:
>> --- On Sat, 10/2/10, Ron House wrote:
>>> From: Ron House
>>> Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] [GENERAL] New name
>>> To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
>>
Le 2010-10-03 06:57, Michèle Garoche a écrit :
On 3 oct. 10, at 12:49, Marc Paré wrote:
Sorry my bad; better with LibreOffice as title and subdirectory:
http://micmacfr.homeunix.org/libreoffice/index.shtml.shtml
http://micmacfr.homeunix.org/libreoffice/index.shtml.en
http://micmacfr.homeunix
On Sunday 03 Oct 2010 20:55:11 Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 19:21 +1300, Graham Lauder wrote:
> > Antonio,
> > You in fact wear the best argument for a unique name in your sig. Who is
> > arguably the most successful Open Source company: Red Hat
> >
> > What in gods name does
On 3 oct. 10, at 12:49, Marc Paré wrote:
Sorry my bad; better with LibreOffice as title and subdirectory:
http://micmacfr.homeunix.org/libreoffice/index.shtml.shtml
http://micmacfr.homeunix.org/libreoffice/index.shtml.en
http://micmacfr.homeunix.org/libreoffice/index.shtml.fr
Old links are re
Sorry my bad; better with LibreOffice as title and subdirectory:
http://micmacfr.homeunix.org/libreoffice/index.shtml.shtml
http://micmacfr.homeunix.org/libreoffice/index.shtml.en
http://micmacfr.homeunix.org/libreoffice/index.shtml.fr
Old links are removed
Michèle
Merci Michèle:
There is a
On 3 oct. 10, at 12:09, Michèle Garoche wrote:
On 3 oct. 10, at 11:44, Marc Paré wrote:
Le 2010-10-03 05:39, Michèle Garoche a écrit :
On 3 oct. 10, at 10:28, Marc Paré wrote:
And there you have the problem: You have to explain it. Good
marketing requires that you engage with customers
On 3 oct. 10, at 11:44, Marc Paré wrote:
Le 2010-10-03 05:39, Michèle Garoche a écrit :
On 3 oct. 10, at 10:28, Marc Paré wrote:
And there you have the problem: You have to explain it. Good
marketing requires that you engage with customers' existing
understanding and expectations. "Well,
On 3 oct. 10, at 11:44, Marc Paré wrote:
Le 2010-10-03 05:39, Michèle Garoche a écrit :
On 3 oct. 10, at 10:28, Marc Paré wrote:
And there you have the problem: You have to explain it. Good
marketing requires that you engage with customers' existing
understanding and expectations. "Well,
Le 2010-10-03 05:39, Michèle Garoche a écrit :
On 3 oct. 10, at 10:28, Marc Paré wrote:
And there you have the problem: You have to explain it. Good
marketing requires that you engage with customers' existing
understanding and expectations. "Well, you see, the name come
from..." "Yeah, fo
On 3 oct. 10, at 10:28, Marc Paré wrote:
And there you have the problem: You have to explain it. Good
marketing requires that you engage with customers' existing
understanding and expectations. "Well, you see, the name come
from..." "Yeah, forget it."
The name should not matter, what matter
Hi David,
2010/10/3 Traduction.BIZ :
> Hi :-) Is it considered likely that Oracle will contribute the
> OpenOffice.org name, domain name, etc? It would be much better if
> there was no need for re-branding...
>
They are invited to join us and bringing back the namee-rights to the
community. In the
And there you have the problem: You have to explain it. Good marketing
requires that you engage with customers' existing understanding and
expectations. "Well, you see, the name come from..." "Yeah, forget it."
The name should not matter, what matters is that users of
OpenSource/Free S
oftwa
Hi :-) Is it considered likely that Oracle will contribute the
OpenOffice.org name, domain name, etc? It would be much better if
there was no need for re-branding...
David
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On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 19:21 +1300, Graham Lauder wrote:
> Antonio,
> You in fact wear the best argument for a unique name in your sig. Who is
> arguably the most successful Open Source company: Red Hat
>
> What in gods name does a Red Hat have to do with software other than give
> them
> a r
On 3 oct. 10, at 08:21, Graham Lauder wrote:
On Sunday 03 Oct 2010 15:00:04 Antonio Olivares wrote:
--- On Sat, 10/2/10, Ron House wrote:
From: Ron House
Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] [GENERAL] New name
To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 6:35 PM
On 02/10/10
On Sunday 03 Oct 2010 15:00:04 Antonio Olivares wrote:
> --- On Sat, 10/2/10, Ron House wrote:
> > From: Ron House
> > Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] [GENERAL] New name
> > To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
> > Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 6:35 PM
> >
>
On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 01:52 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> Also Libre come from FLOSS, most people know and pronounce
> Free/Libre/Open Source Software with no issue including americans.
Most people have never heard of FLOSS, don't know what it means, and
don't care. But I don't think that's
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Ron House wrote:
> On 03/10/10 12:00, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>
>> --- On Sat, 10/2/10, Ron House wrote:
>>
>
> Names are a hard thing, but one lesson I have learned in 30
>>> years of software development is: for widespread acceptance
>>> a good name matters muc
On 03/10/10 12:00, Antonio Olivares wrote:
--- On Sat, 10/2/10, Ron House wrote:
Names are a hard thing, but one lesson I have learned in 30
years of software development is: for widespread acceptance
a good name matters much more than good content. (Sad but
true.)
Examples: "Object-oriented
On Sunday 03 Oct 2010 14:35:19 Ron House wrote:
> On 02/10/10 23:41, Mirek M. wrote:
> > Well, "Open Office" was usually the spoken term used to refer to
> > OpenOffice.org, and I'd say that's much easier to pronounce than
> > LibreOffice. And it flows much more nicely.
> > "LibreOffice" is hard to
--- On Sat, 10/2/10, Ron House wrote:
> From: Ron House
> Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] [GENERAL] New name
> To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
> Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 6:35 PM
> On 02/10/10 23:41, Mirek M. wrote:
>
> > Well, "Open Office" was usually
On 02/10/10 23:41, Mirek M. wrote:
Well, "Open Office" was usually the spoken term used to refer to
OpenOffice.org, and I'd say that's much easier to pronounce than
LibreOffice. And it flows much more nicely.
"LibreOffice" is hard to pronounce the French way because there are two
(written) vowel
Hi Bernhard,
2010/10/2 Dr. Bernhard Dippold
> Hi Mirek, all,
>
> Mirek Mazel wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > I'm really excited about the project, but I'm a bit concerned about the
> > name. What concerns me is that one can't tell how to pronounce the name.
> > Some pronounce it "librehoffice", some
Hi Mirek, all,
Mirek Mazel wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> I'm really excited about the project, but I'm a bit concerned about the
> name. What concerns me is that one can't tell how to pronounce the name.
> Some pronounce it "librehoffice", some (including me) "leeberoffice", some
> may even pronounce it
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