On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 18:28:35 +, Brenden Seibel wrote:
> Here I agree with Robert. The average user I've worked with will be much
> quicker to use the font chooser and size selector than any style selector.
I would argue that this is more a bug with our way to define and select
styles then, t
Forwarding, because my Desire has no idea what a reply-to address is :p
-Damien Ellis
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From: "thealmightyspace...@gmail.com"
Date: Fri, Nov 5, 2010 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: x86_64 Windows build
To: "Ian"
I've written a thousand
I suggest that you have a look at the mailiing list using a web-mail
interface and you see how poor is the functionality. A good mailing
list manager must be functional on both mail clients and web-mail.
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On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:39:51 -0500, Robert Derman wrote:
> contents of the text. Since the text is in Latin, a language that few
> of them will understand, they will ignore it.
If I remember correctly it is not even proper latin and is gibberish in
latin too. It just resembes latin. But then I h
LO is never going to overcome m$ products on their own platform(s).
The biggest market potential by far is mobile devices for ODF to
become the default format.
The majority of people in the world are being introduced to technology
via mobile devices; banking, money transfer, product authentication
Hi,
e-letter wrote on 2010-11-05 08.37:
I suggest that you have a look at the mailiing list using a web-mail
interface and you see how poor is the functionality. A good mailing
list manager must be functional on both mail clients and web-mail.
well, the mailing list manager works well and send
I believe it is an actual quote - lipsum.com says that its part of a classic
text from 45bc. They even have an English translation!
-Damien Ellis
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From: "Sebastian Spaeth"
Date: Fri, Nov 5, 2010 3:40 pm
Subject: [tdf-discuss] Missing function
Hey,
as you know, the OOoDeV temporaly take over the cost and founds for the
upcoming TDF.
So I will give in monthly intervals a short report about those figures:
Since Sep, 28 we recieved a lot of small to very small amounts of money
mainly via PayPal - so PayPal charge some fees of each reciev
On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 07:52 +, e-letter wrote:
> LO is never going to overcome m$ products on their own platform(s).
Agreed, by the time there is any chance of this the world will have
moved to a different platform. In one way it already has since ARM based
mobile computer devices massively ou
In consideration of the previous posts ('Re: x86_64 Windows build',
http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg02649.html),
what is the mechanism that a project can be proposed to develop LO
mobile edition, get funding from Android or similar as suggested?
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On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 09:22 +, e-letter wrote:
> In consideration of the previous posts ('Re: x86_64 Windows build',
> http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg02649.html),
> what is the mechanism that a project can be proposed to develop LO
> mobile edition, get funding fr
Hi Ian, *
Ian Lynch wrote:
> [...]
> Establish a simple Forum called proposals.
I'd prefer a sortable list at the wiki / website with columns for name, date
and
proposal (up to 100 char), link to description, bug entry (if already filed),
number of votes, necessary resources and proirity.
Th
On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 11:25 +0100, Dr. Bernhard Dippold wrote:
> Hi Ian, *
>
> Ian Lynch wrote:
> > [...]
> > Establish a simple Forum called proposals.
>
> I'd prefer a sortable list at the wiki / website with columns for name, date
> and
> proposal (up to 100 char), link to description, bug
2010/11/5 Sebastian Spaeth :
> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 18:28:35 +, Brenden Seibel wrote:
>> Here I agree with Robert. The average user I've worked with will be much
>> quicker to use the font chooser and size selector than any style selector.
>
> I would argue that this is more a bug with our way
Il 04/11/2010 16.56, Italo Vignoli ha scritto:
The community cannot issue formal certifications about software, and
this is where the OOo project has missed the point.
I know it.
Nevertheless, a foundation isn't needed to start a certification program.
Any vendor may start it, with more or le
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On 11/4/2010 6:32 PM, Ian wrote:
> The legal profession is hardly a good precedent for technology
> innovation :-)
Touché!
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On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 11:57 +0100, Gianluca Turconi wrote:
> Il 04/11/2010 16.56, Italo Vignoli ha scritto:
> > The community cannot issue formal certifications about software, and
> > this is where the OOo project has missed the point.
>
> I know it.
>
> Nevertheless, a foundation isn't needed t
So what happens next? Should the suggestion for LO mobile version
remain in the mailing list archive until the proposals structure is
created? Is any member of the decision-making entity able to say now
whether this proposal is to rejected or accepted?
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 13:10:42 +, e-letter wrote:
> So what happens next? Should the suggestion for LO mobile version
> remain in the mailing list archive until the proposals structure is
> created? Is any member of the decision-making entity able to say now
> whether this proposal is to rejected
Em 04-11-2010 17:31, e-letter escreveu:
In terms of priorities, making LO the default for mobile (e.g.
android) is more important than windoze.
Wrong as of today. Windows counts of more than 95% of LO/OOo use. See
download stats in OOo portal. Maybe in some future for mobiles.
Much has been
Il 05/11/2010 13.24, Ian ha scritto:
But if there is a desire for an
independent LO foundation it also provides an opportunity to sustain it.
A desire is different from a need, in a decentralized development
system, but I got your point, thanks, Ian.
You explained it very well, indeed. :)
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Le 2010-11-05 03:40, Sebastian Spaeth a écrit :
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:39:51 -0500, Robert Derman wrote:
contents of the text. Since the text is in Latin, a language that few
of them will understand, they will ignore it.
If I remember correctly it is not even proper latin and is gibberish in
l
Le 2010-11-05 05:10, Ian a écrit :
On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 07:52 +, e-letter wrote:
LO is never going to overcome m$ products on their own platform(s).
Agreed, by the time there is any chance of this the world will have
moved to a different platform. In one way it already has since ARM based
On 2010-11-05 10:59 AM, Michel Gagnon wrote:
> As for becoming useful on the phone, I think the cell-phone platform
> limits a lot the editing functions available. One possibility would be
> to have a no-frills word processor that would remember all image and
> style information, yet allow the cell
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Charles Marcus wrote:
> On 2010-11-05 10:59 AM, Michel Gagnon wrote:
> > As for becoming useful on the phone, I think the cell-phone platform
> > limits a lot the editing functions available. One possibility would be
> > to have a no-frills word processor that would
On Nov 3, 2010, at 12:56 PM, Ian wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 11:34 -0500, T. J. Brumfield wrote:
>
>> The cheapest iPad is $500, and comparable tablets are priced along the same
>> lines. There are "cheap" tablets more in the $99-$150 range, but they are
>> underpowered compared to the iPad a
On 05/11/10 11.57, Gianluca Turconi wrote:
And, by saying the truth, why a TDF certification program should be
better than a hypothetical "IBM LIbO certified professional" label, in a
wider Community?
The problem is not the quality of the certification program.
Vendors have their own certific
On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 16:55:35 +0100, "Charles-H. Schulz" wrote:
> Here's the result of our discussions with respect to the Community
> bylaws so far.
Can we add some blurb in the long run on what the benefits/rights of members
are?
:-). Such as voting for a board of directors etc.
Sebastian
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Quoting Simos Xenitellis:
Per mailing list etiquette, it's better to start a new thread to discuss
mobile LibO.
This thread is about what needs to be done to get native Win64 LibO,
and how to find developers to join the effort.
It has beceom a thread on mobile LibO by default. We've been told
Quoting Simos Xenitellis:
Per mailing list etiquette, it's better to start a new thread to discuss
mobile LibO.
This thread is about what needs to be done to get native Win64 LibO,
and how to find developers to join the effort.
It has evolved into a thread on mobile LO by default. We've been t
On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 11:51 -0200, Olivier Hallot wrote:
> Em 04-11-2010 17:31, e-letter escreveu:
> > In terms of priorities, making LO the default for mobile (e.g.
> > android) is more important than windoze.
> >
>
> Wrong as of today. Windows counts of more than 95% of LO/OOo use. See
> downlo
On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 17:25 +0100, Italo Vignoli wrote:
> In addition, the free software community lacks the experience to build a
> certification program (industry certification, similar to Microsoft,
> Adobe, etcetera), and the Sun history shows that free software vendors -
> with several exc
Drew,
On Nov 3, 2010, at 8:50 AM, drew wrote:
> This email is prompted from reading a couple of the discussions going
> on, or just recently having gone on.
>
> This question of a new UI for LibreOffice for instance, is a good one to
> move into what I wanted to touch on.
>
> I believe the quest
Wasn't subscribed to this list earlier, so I'll just hijack the first
mail from the copyright thread to reply to to state my own opinion on
copyright assignments.
So, I'm not a huge fan of them and believe they put contributors off.
None of the various projects I've contributed to outside of
OpenO
Hello,
I don't think Microsoft's Ribbon is that big a deal either way. You
can effectively cover Microsoft Word 2007 training in about a 70-page
booklet and a 20-page project/tutorial style booklet---the same for
Microsoft Excel. In fact, the only problem I have with the ribbon is
that it isn't th
Hi Ian, all!
Before I start - I cross-post this mail to both disc...@tdf and
webs...@libo, because I think it could be helpful to collect some
requirements concerning the future web infrastructure. For answers,
please use the original thread at disc...@tdf. Thanks!
The issue: There has been a pro
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Christoph Noack
wrote:
> Hi Ian, all!
>
> Before I start - I cross-post this mail to both disc...@tdf and
> webs...@libo, because I think it could be helpful to collect some
> requirements concerning the future web infrastructure. For answers,
> please use the origi
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On 11/05/2010 03:35 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
> It doesn't even need to be built on the existing LibO code-it could be built
> using LibO's ODF libraries, though, for perfect file
compatibility. Users won't care what the underlying code is; as long a
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On 11/04/2010 01:03 PM, RGB ES wrote:
> A lorem ipsum generator? (that's what google gave me about "=Lorem(12) word")
Try dt and then press F3, or use this extension:
One of the objections to that extension, is that it requires one to be
connected to
Hello! I've been lurking for a couple of weeks and am a new user to open
office. I would classify myself as just an average everyday sort of user.
I have joined several of the mailing lists and read all of them. Often
times I can follow along and learn stuff, but often times everything is way
Hi Terri. This is a time of transition. LibreOffice will be the WAY TO
GO from here
on outbut at THIS TIME, I would install OpenOffice 3.2.1, get
familiar with it.and USE
it. It's a great piece of software.
The next release3.3.0 is imminent. If OpenOffice 3.3.0 comes out
first.
On Fri Nov 05 2010 18:29:41 GMT-0700 (PDT) Terri Reichert wrote:
Hello! I've been lurking for a couple of weeks and am a new user to
open office. I would classify myself as just an average everyday sort
of user. I have joined several of the mailing lists and read all of
them. Often times I
On 11/05/2010 08:47 PM, Andy Brown wrote:
On Fri Nov 05 2010 18:29:41 GMT-0700 (PDT) Terri Reichert wrote:
Hello! I've been lurking for a couple of weeks and am a new user to
open office. I would classify myself as just an average everyday
sort of user. I have joined several of the mailing l
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On 11/03/2010 12:50 PM, drew wrote:
> How should we handle a situation such as this, where a group of active
> individuals, members of the larger group, decide to pursue a specialized
> derivative of the main application - would be shun them?
Enco
Le 2010-11-05 17:15, M Robinson a écrit :
The first two toolbars should be a Libre-polished 'classic' toolbar
and a 'ribbon' clone. The eye candy should be left and right arrows on
either side of the toolbar that causes the toolbar to slide in either
direction. Users can organize their toolbars
Le 2010-11-05 19:10, todd rme a écrit :
From what I can see, the Ubuntu system is pretty similar in its
capabilities to the KDE Forum system, although the KDE system seems to
focus on idea while the Ubuntu (or ideatorrent, which it is based on)
seems to be focused on problems and solutions. Ho
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