Re: [tdf-discuss] Download libreoffice button in new LibreOffice website

2011-01-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi Jan, :-) On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 15:41, Jan Parttimaa jan.partti...@gmail.com wrote: I just wondering how can I add new 'download LibreOffice 3.3' button in finnish site? (text on button will be in finnish) I'm busy right now finishing stuff on the English site, but if you can wait for me a

Re: [tdf-discuss] Download libreoffice button in new LibreOffice website

2011-01-10 Thread Jan Parttimaa
Yes it's OK for me :) Jan 2011/1/10, David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz: Hi Jan, :-) On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 15:41, Jan Parttimaa jan.partti...@gmail.com wrote: I just wondering how can I add new 'download LibreOffice 3.3' button in finnish site? (text on button will be in finnish) I'm

Re: [tdf-discuss] Download libreoffice button in new LibreOffice website

2011-01-10 Thread David Nelson
OK, it's on my to-do list. ;-) David Nelson On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 16:05, Jan Parttimaa jan.partti...@gmail.com wrote: Yes it's OK for me :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All

[tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread Michael Wheatland
*** I have cross posted this mail to the website mailing list, for discussions about web infrastructre *** The feedback that I have already got from users interested in the discussions around the Drupal project is that forums are a very important mechanism in sourcing and providing help to end

Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums bi-directionally cooperating with extant mailing lists?

2011-01-10 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 8:22 AM, J.B. Nicholson-Owens j...@forestfield.org wrote: RGB ES wrote: https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/forums/ Will the forums be bi-directional where forum posts are echoed on the appropriate mailing list in a non-thread-breaking way and vice versa? It would

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread James Wilde
Sorry Ricardo - and everyone else. I've obviously missed something in here. It was presumably the Nabble interface I was thinking of. //James On Jan 9, 2011, at 16:04 , RGB ES wrote: https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/forums/ They are hidden (no link on the help page) and you cannot post

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi, Am 10.01.2011 00:51, schrieb Sigrid Carrera: Reason for not using those forums was that there are already a few (good!) fora out there and we don't want to fight against them. In contrast, I think, it was planned to link to those forums from our website. Yes. This has been disussed and

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi Stefan, * :-) On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 18:21, Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org wrote: However, there is lots of discussion about creating yet another forum. And I fear lots of energy is being put into this. Kind of makes me desperate. But given that Nabble is simply an

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi David, Am 10.01.2011 11:29, schrieb David Nelson: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 18:21, Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org wrote: However, there is lots of discussion about creating yet another forum. And I fear lots of energy is being put into this. Kind of makes me desperate.

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi Stefan, :-) On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 18:42, Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org wrote: However, I haven´t had a closer look at Nabble. And I am asking myself if it could be a source of confusion for unexperienced users, who don´t even know, what a mailing list is, if Nabble looks

Re: [tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Micheal, Am 10.01.2011 10:36, schrieb Michael Wheatland: What do others think? Is the forum support option important for trust building and familiarity? What system would we use? IMHO: Do not spend a minute on creating yet another forum, but point to the already existing well-proven

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi David, Am 10.01.2011 11:53, schrieb David Nelson: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 18:42, Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org wrote: However, I haven´t had a closer look at Nabble. And I am asking myself if it could be a source of confusion for unexperienced users, who don´t even know,

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread drew
On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 11:21 +0100, Stefan Weigel wrote: That´s why I even advocate closing down http://libreofficeforum.org/ I could not disagree more strongly. He had every right to open that site, I don't like it, to say you can arbitrarily shut it down because it does not fit with your

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread drew
On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 12:31 +0100, Stefan Weigel wrote: Hi David, Am 10.01.2011 11:53, schrieb David Nelson: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 18:42, Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org wrote: However, I haven´t had a closer look at Nabble. And I am asking myself if it could be a

[tdf-discuss] Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-10 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
Hi, When starting the LibreOffice launcher, the first button at the bottom left points to http://templates.services.openoffice.org to get more templates. The first page loads OK but trying to access any templates gives a 503 error. Even the contact page gives a 503 error. Perhaps TDF /

Re: [tdf-discuss] Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Fabian, Fabián Rodríguez wrote (10-01-11 15:19) When starting the LibreOffice launcher, the first button at the bottom left points to http://templates.services.openoffice.org to get more templates. The first page loads OK but trying to access any templates gives a 503 error. Even the

[tdf-discuss] Re: Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-10 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 10/01/11 15:50, Cor Nouws a écrit : Hi all, I am sure it is considered. Maybe this one has slipped through, is in the pipe-line or ?? http://templates.services.openoffice.org/da is working for me with Firefox, but the other N-L sections all return a 503 error. The site is really slow

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Drew, Am 10.01.2011 15:09, schrieb drew: On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 11:21 +0100, Stefan Weigel wrote: That´s why I even advocate closing down http://libreofficeforum.org/ I could not disagree more strongly. He had every right to open that site, I don't like it, to say you can arbitrarily shut

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread drew
On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 16:33 +0100, Stefan Weigel wrote: Hi Drew, Am 10.01.2011 15:09, schrieb drew: On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 11:21 +0100, Stefan Weigel wrote: That´s why I even advocate closing down http://libreofficeforum.org/ I could not disagree more strongly. He had every right to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) In any case, Marc Paré has started work on accumulating some templates and storing them at [1] He seems to be very cautious from the licensing viewpoint. But I hope that we will start building up our own collection within a short time... [1]

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-10 Thread sophie
Hi Marc, On 10/01/2011 19:14, Marc Paré wrote: [...] Just to be safe, it looks like we will have to contact template authors to either get their permission to upload their templates on our wiki site or have them upload themselves to our wiki site. I have to say, this will take time. We also

RE: [tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread Narayan Aras
Hi Michael, In general, I full hare your views. Your average end user will likely never search through mailing list threads, even if they contain exactly the information they are looking for. Exactly! A well presented forum running from a dedicated forum system such as vBulletin or

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
On 11-01-10 10:33 AM, Stefan Weigel wrote: [...] What would you say, if people came up with multiple LibreOffice websites in parallel? What would you say, if people came up with multiple LibreOffice mailing lists in parallel? You have every right to open a website or mailing list about

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi Marc, :-) On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 00:14, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Additionally, I don't really think that we should be pointing to the OOo site for templates. We should be pointing to a site that is not in competition with us On libreoffice.org the link is to

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread drew
On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 17:12 +0100, Stefan Weigel wrote: Hi Drew, Am 10.01.2011 16:50, schrieb drew: But even if that where not true, there is this: LibreOffice not OpenOffice. The application is not the same, and the organization is not the same. What part of that do you

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-10 Thread sophie
Hi David, On 10/01/2011 19:38, David Nelson wrote: Hi Marc, :-) On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 00:14, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com wrote: Additionally, I don't really think that we should be pointing to the OOo site for templates. We should be pointing to a site that is not in competition with us On

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) I removed the link. But this leaves us with a hole to fill in our offering... David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread sophie
Hi Drew, On 10/01/2011 19:41, drew wrote: [...] Slightly off topic but it is part of this issue: As to the question of a single monolithic view of the project, all things LibreOffice will be at one domain, this is a basic assumption that I an not willing to adhere to. There is great value in a

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-10 Thread sophie
Hi David, On 10/01/2011 19:46, David Nelson wrote: Hi, :-) I removed the link. But this leaves us with a hole to fill in our offering... Have you something against http://opentemplate.org ? As pointed in my answer to Marc, it could serve as a placeholder in the meantime the website team

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) OK, I added that site. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***

[tdf-discuss] Re: Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-10 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-01-10 11:46, David Nelson a écrit : Hi, :-) I removed the link. But this leaves us with a hole to fill in our offering... David Nelson I'll try to supply you with a couple more links once the OOo template site is reachable. It is down at the moment. There are a couple of sites

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread Karl-Heinz Gödderz
Hi, Stefan Weigel schrieb: Hi, Am 10.01.2011 00:51, schrieb Sigrid Carrera: Reason for not using those forums was that there are already a few (good!) fora out there and we don't want to fight against them. In contrast, I think, it was planned to link to those forums from our website.

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread drew
On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 19:56 +0300, sophie wrote: Hi Drew, On 10/01/2011 19:41, drew wrote: [...] Slightly off topic but it is part of this issue: As to the question of a single monolithic view of the project, all things LibreOffice will be at one domain, this is a basic assumption that

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread Michael Wheatland
On 11/01/2011 2:12 AM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 17:12 +0100, Stefan Weigel wrote: Hi Drew, Am 10.01.2011 16:50, schrieb drew: But even if that where not true, there is this: LibreOffice not OpenOffice. The application is not the same, and the

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread Andy Brown
On Mon Jan 10 2011 09:15:53 GMT-0800 (PST) Karl-Heinz Gödderz wrote: Hi, Stefan Weigel schrieb: Hi, Am 10.01.2011 00:51, schrieb Sigrid Carrera: Reason for not using those forums was that there are already a few (good!) fora out there and we don't want to fight against them. In contrast,

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread drew
On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 00:02 +0800, David Nelson wrote: Hi Drew, :-) On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 22:11, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: It doesn't sound good to me. So can you clarify what your position is with regard to Nabble? Hi David, Sure - I would use nabble the way it is currently

[tdf-discuss] Re: [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-01-10 11:56, sophie a écrit : Hi Drew, On 10/01/2011 19:41, drew wrote: [...] Slightly off topic but it is part of this issue: As to the question of a single monolithic view of the project, all things LibreOffice will be at one domain, this is a basic assumption that I an not willing

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi Marc, Drew, Sophie, :-) Where you addressing me, Marc? I'm assuming so. ;-) My take would be this: I don't personally *want* the Nabble/forums to be independent of the libreoffice.org site or the LibreOffice project. I specifically see forums or a Nabble interface as being an important

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread sophie
Hi Marc, On 10/01/2011 20:31, Marc Paré wrote: [...] Before you read the next lines, I have to say that I will most likely not be using the right terminology and hope you understand my point(s). Well, then, would both Drew and Sophie be against having the forums passing through the main

[tdf-discuss] Re: [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-01-10 13:04, sophie a écrit : Hi Marc, On 10/01/2011 20:31, Marc Paré wrote: [...] Before you read the next lines, I have to say that I will most likely not be using the right terminology and hope you understand my point(s). Well, then, would both Drew and Sophie be against having

Re: [tdf-discuss] Download libreoffice button in new LibreOffice website

2011-01-10 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jan, *, On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Jan Parttimaa jan.partti...@gmail.com wrote: I just wondering how can I add new 'download LibreOffice 3.3' button in finnish site? (text on button will be in finnish) use the source :-) a id=DownloadButton title=Click here to download LibreOffice

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
On 11-01-09 08:28 PM, Andy Brown wrote: On Sun Jan 09 2011 07:04:12 GMT-0800 (PST) RGB ES wrote: https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/forums/ They are hidden (no link on the help page) and you cannot post on them yet, but they exists and you can register ;) So my question is: how those

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: Adoption and implementation of the Community Bylaws

2011-01-10 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi David, *, Am Montag, 10. Januar 2011, 00:25:41 schrieb David Nelson: Hi Andreas, :-) There is currently no legal entity or a legal organisation TDF. Every thing is in the course of formation. Because I know a bit about German law I can assure you that it takes a longer time (not days

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Fabian, 2011/1/10 Fabián Rodríguez magic...@member.fsf.org On 11-01-09 08:28 PM, Andy Brown wrote: On Sun Jan 09 2011 07:04:12 GMT-0800 (PST) RGB ES wrote: https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/forums/ They are hidden (no link on the help page) and you cannot post on them yet, but they

Re: [tdf-discuss] Download libreoffice button in new LibreOffice website

2011-01-10 Thread drew
On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 19:38 +0100, Christian Lohmaier wrote: use the source :-) You didn't really just go there...LOL..must be having a good day. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All

Off-topic (was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Download libreoffice button in new LibreOffice website)

2011-01-10 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Christian! Am Montag, den 10.01.2011, 19:38 +0100 schrieb Christian Lohmaier: use the source :-) Make it so! :-) Great, just great! Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive:

[tdf-discuss] Suggestions for your future extensions

2011-01-10 Thread AndrewT
Currently the get more extensions online... link (accessed from Tools - Extension Manager) takes users to this page: http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:OpenOfficeExtensions/List. There are a few disadvantages to that list: 1. It takes users to the main OO.org plugins site anyway, which suggests

[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Queensland floods not near me

2011-01-10 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Several people have emailed me to ask if I've been affected by the great Queensland floods. I'm happy to say that no, the floods are well south of here. We've been having a lot of rain here (though not this week) and

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: Adoption and implementation of the Community Bylaws

2011-01-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi David, David Nelson wrote (10-01-11 00:25) Forming the legal entity, the Foundation will take time. But that has no connection with the implementation of the Community Bylaws. The existence of the Foundation is *not* necessary before implementing almost every clause of the Community Bylaws.

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] official source code repository for CD distribution[was: DVD and Jewel case design]

2011-01-10 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, Bernhard Dippold wrote on 2011-01-08 13.25: Due to server capacities I don't know if TDF will be able to provide such continuously reachable links to every version of LibreOffice, but this should be discussed by the SC (CC'ing the SC-discuss list). we will try to, but I second your

[steering-discuss] Re: Adoption and implementation of the Community Bylaws

2011-01-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi Andreas, guys, :-) Thanks for your responses. I'd like to put some viewpoints that some of you guys don't seem to have thought of. Rant rant I would like to see an end to this mindset of some people regarding a three-tier community: the new members, the ex-OOo community members, and

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: Adoption and implementation of the Community Bylaws

2011-01-10 Thread Varun Mittal
Dear All, As far as I understand we are all on same page regarding out objectives and long term goals. In every team there are few aggressive, few defensive and few balanced out players. A team needs each of them equally because each of them is best at their task. I understand David's feelings

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: Adoption and implementation of the Community Bylaws

2011-01-10 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi, Am 11.01.2011 06:30, schrieb David Nelson: I feel it's time to say that OOo was the past, LibreOffice and TDF is our future, and everything started from zero with the TDF launch. Excuse me David, but IMO you are completely wrong. LibreOffice and TDF did not start from zero at all. Please