Re: [IxDA Discuss] DEFINE: Affordance

2008-03-20 Thread Katie Albers
Because the word has been used increasingly loosely -- as you've described -- I don't use it any more. When I used it, I wound up having to go through an explanation of what an affordance really is -- or why it's different from what they think it means. Not using the term saves me the Battle

Re: [IxDA Discuss] advice on usability testing for complex sites

2008-03-20 Thread Meredith Noble
Wow, I just want to say thank you to everyone who weighed in on this. This is why I love IxDA :) I always struggle in explaining these sorts of situations without giving away details about the actual application, but let me make an attempt. Katie, it's not quite as dire as you might think, ha!

[IxDA Discuss] [Reminder] IxDA London meeting: 27th March

2008-03-20 Thread Alexander Livingstone
Hi all, If you're in or around London on the 27th, there will be an IxDA meetup and mixer event. We'll be starting around 6:30. The location is yet to be finalised (sorry, I've been working weekends and haven't had time to organise things yet!). Choice is probably between the Dog and Duck in Soho

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples of web-based drag and drop functionality

2008-03-20 Thread Martin
In addition to iGoogle, Google Reader lets you drag and drop to reorder your feed list. And in Google Calendar, you can move events using drag and drop. Best, -- Martin Polley Technical Communicator +972 52 3864280 http://capcloud.com/

[IxDA Discuss] Digital patina

2008-03-20 Thread John Gibbard
Had a look at this Flickr set today: http://www.flickr.com/groups/desire_paths [*] It shows examples of when humans have eschewed the predefined path to take a shortcut instead. Really nice visualisation of the path of least resistance. How have you observed this happening online? Have you used

Re: [IxDA Discuss] KABK Netherlands and other IxD schools

2008-03-20 Thread Paul Reijnierse
Hi Vlad, I am currently finishing my Masters degree in Interaction Design at the Utrecht Shool for the Arts in Hilversum, the Netherlands. The program has been around for quite some time now (almost 15 years). The focus is very much on design, not on computer science and it looks like it will

Re: [IxDA Discuss] DEFINE: Affordance

2008-03-20 Thread Lon Hetrick
I use it to mean, the impression an object conveys that it can be acted on. Very broad and general. The idea is that affordance is a quality that some objects have that says touch/manipulate me and something will happen. This quality is dependent on context. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

[IxDA Discuss] What's exciting in Adobe Thermo?

2008-03-20 Thread Oleg Krupnov
There's currently a lot of buzz about the forthcoming release of Adobe Thermo. We all have read the article about the product and watched the sneak peek video of the product's presentation. It looks like everybody is very excited about the tool. I am curious to discuss it and hear opinions. What

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples of web-based drag and drop functionality

2008-03-20 Thread Denis Sweeney
I'm looking for public internet based websites (not fat client) that feature drag and drop functionality. Anybody have any favorite examples to share? Another example of Drag-and-drop: I recently started playing with Zude (www.zude.com). You can *drag-and-drop* pages from other sites into Zude

Re: [IxDA Discuss] DEFINE: Affordance

2008-03-20 Thread Victor Lombardi
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Christopher Hlavaty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the discipline of IxD, the word has been used to define a possible action perceived by a user within some environment (Norman 1988). In the classic example, the affordance of a door with a flat metal plate is

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples of web-based drag and drop functionality

2008-03-20 Thread Katie Ware
Some public examples I have seen are www.bbc.co.uk and I just saw that the redesigned LinkedIn now allows some dragging of components. - Katie _ In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] DEFINE: Affordance

2008-03-20 Thread Victor Lombardi
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Victor Lombardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don Norman also saw that discrepancy, and at some point revised it to perceivable affordance. I just found the link: Affordances and Design http://www.jnd.org/dn.mss/affordances_and.html

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples of web-based drag and drop functionality

2008-03-20 Thread Dan Harrelson
Scriptaculous shopping cart demo: http://demo.script.aculo.us/shop The Flickr organizing tools use drag and drop extensively to arrange sets and to place photos on maps: http://flickr.com/photos/organize/ ...Dan On Mar 19, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Fine, David wrote: I'm looking for public internet

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples of web-based drag and drop functionality

2008-03-20 Thread Hugh Griffith
Netflix http://www.netflix.com uses drag and drop in their queue management screen. Hugh G. On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Dan Harrelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scriptaculous shopping cart demo: http://demo.script.aculo.us/shop The Flickr organizing tools use drag and drop extensively to

Re: [IxDA Discuss] DEFINE: Affordance

2008-03-20 Thread Jared Christensen
Chris, I don't think the second 'definition' you laid out is correct. Affordance is not an object (metal plate), or a quality assigned to an object (glossiness); it is the perceived action associated with or communicated by an object. I can see where the issue might get confused, and perhaps

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Sign-up experience

2008-03-20 Thread Mat Atkinson
Vlad At ProofHQ (www.proofhq.com) we mulled over this issue for a few weeks and tested various options. We ended up with just six fields and did away with Captcha. However, we are still not sure about granting instant access. Confirmation of email ownership is important to prevent users

[IxDA Discuss] The best way to start new threads in IXDA Discussion?

2008-03-20 Thread Oleg Krupnov
Hi, It's rather strange to ask this question after having started a number of threads already :), however I am puzzled with the fact that there is no Start new thread button on the Discussion page at ixda.org (http://ixda.org/discuss.php). At least I'm unable to find it. Is this on purpose, and

Re: [IxDA Discuss] DEFINE: Affordance

2008-03-20 Thread Uday Gajendar
I think it's both :-) Affordance is the noun, the perceived clue that suggests an action (based upon context, situation, goals, etc.). Afford is the verb, like what does this object afford, or the particular action the user would perform based upon the clue perceived. (a chair affords

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The best way to start new threads in IXDA Discussion?

2008-03-20 Thread Matthew Nish-Lapidus
I use the whole list through email.. so when I want to start a thread i go to gmail and send a new message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Oleg Krupnov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, It's rather strange to ask this question after having started a number of threads

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The best way to start new threads in IXDA Discussion?

2008-03-20 Thread W Evans
Your supposed to use email to start new threads. There is a reason for this. Something about security, spam, etc. Forget exactly what. On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Matthew Nish-Lapidus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use the whole list through email.. so when I want to start a thread i go to

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Sign-up experience

2008-03-20 Thread Jeff Howard
I think the context is important here. This isn't financial or medical; it's a social-mapping website. Is it secure enough for what they're doing? Probably. Platial's signup process seems to be in line with a whole raft of other social websites that value instant-access over identity verification.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The best way to start new threads in IXDA Discussion?

2008-03-20 Thread Jeff Howard
Hi Oleg, The IxDA Discussion list was originally an e-mail only list and e-mail is still the primary channel. All new threads are started via e-mail at the address Matthew mentions. There's an overview here: http://www.ixda.org/about_help.php The delay you were encountering had nothing to do

[IxDA Discuss] Threaded Emails Displays

2008-03-20 Thread Kevin Silver
I'm currently working on a redesign on an application that creates threads of emails and related information. I was wondering if anyone knows of really good examples beyond google mail and the threading in apple mail. My focus is on how to display the threads, which are central to the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] OT: Webhost

2008-03-20 Thread Bill Fernandez
I've been using site5.com for several years and have been happy with them. I also use hostmonster.com, but so lightly it'd be hard to really say how good they are. At 10:55 AM -0400 3/19/08, Micah Freedman wrote: Hi All, I'm looking into web hosting for a client again, and thought I'd get

Re: [IxDA Discuss] DEFINE: Affordance

2008-03-20 Thread Mark Schraad
Seriously, this is actually very good... From wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordances An affordance is the quality of an object, or an environment, that allows an individual to perform action. The term is used in a variety of fields: perceptual psychology, cognitive

Re: [IxDA Discuss] What's exciting in Adobe Thermo?

2008-03-20 Thread Oleg Krupnov
I agree, and so I'm not asking what the product itself feels like, but what you expect it to be, in context of your work, and in a more specific way than just WOW :) -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/What%27s-exciting-in-Adobe-Thermo--tp16177473p16181825.html Sent from the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The best way to start new threads in IXDA Discussion?

2008-03-20 Thread Jeff Howard
Alla wrote: I was wondering the same thing but could not start a new thread to ask : ) I personally do not subscribe the email Just a note. You should still be able to send e-mail to the list even if you aren't receiving e-mail. If not, send a message to list at ixda.org. // jeff . . .

Re: [IxDA Discuss] DEFINE: Affordance

2008-03-20 Thread Robert Hoekman, Jr.
I use it to mean, the impression an object conveys that it can be acted on. I think of it more as an aspect of a design that communicates how a person can interact with an object. -r- Welcome to the Interaction Design

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Coming Soon Pages

2008-03-20 Thread John Gibbard
Another good example of teasing compelling content/functionality is the very 2.0 practise of tagging 'Beta' to the end of unfinished stuff. Songbird was 'coming soon' for ages (http://www.songbirdnest.com/), and we can all track down other apps that seem to have been in Beta for ages. The key is

Re: [IxDA Discuss] What's exciting in Adobe Thermo?

2008-03-20 Thread Jack Moffett
Oleg, I saw a live demo given by Narciso Jaramillo at Interaction 08 and blogged about it here: http://designaday.tumblr.com/post/26687818 Jack On Mar 20, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Oleg Krupnov wrote: I agree, and so I'm not asking what the product itself feels like, but what you expect it to

[IxDA Discuss] [EVENT] IxDA Toronto Meeting: Thurs April 3rd at LinuxCaffe

2008-03-20 Thread Meredith Noble
We'd like to invite you to the first official IxDA Toronto event! Join interaction designers and other user experience specialists at a casual get-together. We'll be getting to know each other, chatting about some recent mailing list topics (portfolios, education and interesting interaction

Re: [IxDA Discuss] OT: Webhost

2008-03-20 Thread Eva
Try pair.com. Reasonable prices and excellent performance. -- Eva Kaniasty http://www.linkedin.com/in/kaniasty Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe

[IxDA Discuss] Call for Students - Season of Usability 2008

2008-03-20 Thread Celeste 'seele' Paul
Season of Usability is a series of mentored student projects to encourage students of usability, user-interface design, and interaction design to get involved with Freee/Libre/Open-Source Software (FLOSS) projects. It offers an excellent way to gain experience in the interdisciplinary and

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples of web-based drag and drop functionality

2008-03-20 Thread Daphne Ogle
I'm involved in a community source project that is building usable accessible UI components. One of our first is an accessible drag and drop component, the Reorder. You can check out information (demo technical info) on the component on our wiki,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] DEFINE: Affordance

2008-03-20 Thread Angel Marquez
A property in which the physical characteristics of an object or environment influence its function. -Universal Principles of Design Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Threaded Emails Displays

2008-03-20 Thread Jeff Howard
Hi Kevin, The flip side to this is looking at what to avoid. It's really possible to go overboard with threading. Gmail and Apple Mail strike a nice balance, but sites like Slashdot and our own Mailman archives represent threading relationships with more fidelity than is generally necessary.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] DEFINE: Affordance

2008-03-20 Thread christine chastain
I too, have become very careful in the use of the word in general but I find that in my work, most often the affordance of an object or experience is, quite simply, the qualities of that object or experience that permit it to be used in a specific way.

[IxDA Discuss] Internship Opportunity - Portland Oregon

2008-03-20 Thread David Shaw
Hey junior designers - Are you an interaction design/UI design college student looking for an internship this summer? Do you have passion around designing things to help people better manage their health? If so, we may have a great summer opportunity for you. Our group, Digital Health (a part

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why Import/Export - A broken metaphor. More Semantic thoughts from the underground.

2008-03-20 Thread W Evans
Your right to the extent that many aren't right - or at least aren't right anymore - and most metaphors we use in interaction/interface design are partially broken. The other thing is that I wonder if the good academic work of HCI was actually happening after people already had come up with for

[IxDA Discuss] Valuable courses for interaction Designers

2008-03-20 Thread tmactavish
A question for experienced Interaction Designers: what academic courses have proven to be the most valuable in providing you with the conceptual and practical skills to succeed at your profession?? what academic courses were not valuable? Your guidance may help the next generation of

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Threaded Emails Displays

2008-03-20 Thread Calvin Park 박상빈
I'm not sure what you're asking for so my answer might be OT... I personally love gmail's threadding, so I'd make a gmail clone and start adding features like: - attaching and detaching mails to a conversation (those Re: replies breaking the conversation is pretty annoying) - attaching and

[IxDA Discuss] Why Import/Export - A broken metaphor. More Semantic thoughts from the underground.

2008-03-20 Thread W Evans
First - regarding upload and download - the use of these terms within this community is so self-evident as to be tautological. Upload and downlode make use of the spatial metaphors that here is down and there is up. Why there is up is up for debate - but thats the way it is. For more on metaphor -

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Threaded Emails Displays

2008-03-20 Thread Oleh Kovalchuke
I find branching discussions confusing. Here is why: the discussions unfold over a period of time. I might read several responses before I write my own to the original message. With the branched navigation I create an unwieldy semantic tree, where my response to the 2nd message, which

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Valuable courses for interaction Designers

2008-03-20 Thread karine Drumond
In Brazil we have just one Interaction Design course (Belo Horizonte - Brazil) . It`s the first post graduation course here. And I have just concluded it. :-) The program included: Interaction Design fundamentals Human factors Interaction Styles User Centered Design Prototyping Usability methods