[IxDA Discuss] Choosing fonts for mobile phones

2007-11-21 Thread Sachendra Yadav
Hi,

Is anyone in the group aware of any guidelines for choosing fonts for
mobile phones?

Thanks
Sachendra

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Choosing fonts for mobile phones

2007-11-21 Thread pauric
Sachendra, there are a number of references to mobile fonts in the
archives

http://gamma.ixda.org/discuss.php?post=17330
http://gamma.ixda.org/discuss.php?post=12569

best of luck -p


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] OK/Cancel

2007-11-21 Thread Brian Hoffman
 -Original Message-
 I think Luke W's article (posted on this thread previously) answers a
 lot of our questions based on research and statistical data. Primary
 button should be on the left, secondary button on the right. Buttons
 should be left aligned.
 
 -Juan
 [Brian Hoffman] 

Greetings everyone! New subscriber here.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't believe this conclusion can be
drawn from Luke W's article. Of the options he studied, none of them had
the primary button to the right next to the secondary button with both
of them left aligned. Only one of the variations had the primary button
to the right of the secondary button and in that case the buttons were
fill-justified, which could make an enormous difference with a
left-justified form.

What I'm wondering is, did participants have the option to hit Enter
on their keyboard instead of clicking on a button to submit the form
and, if so, how many people used that option and never even looked at
the buttons?

Thanks,

Brian J. Hoffman
Interface Designer
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[IxDA Discuss] Does eye-tracking carry any real meaning?

2007-11-21 Thread Robert Hoekman, Jr.
23 rules actionable lessons from eye-tracking studies:
http://tinyurl.com/yrhydu

I'm curious whether or not others on the list take this stuff seriously. I
haven't decided yet if I think eye-tracking is a useful tool, and although I
definitely have some opinions on the subject, I'd like some other
perspectives to form a better picture.

Several of these actionable lessons bother me. For example, One-column
formats perform better in eye-fixation than multi-column formats.
*
*
This seems painfully obvious, and also completely useless. Of course a
single-column is going to perform better - you only have to look at a single
column rather than two! But how does this help us? I'm certainly not going
to start using single-column layouts all the time just because it's faster.
When it comes down to it, a few seconds difference in the time it takes to
digest a page isn't going to make or break a user's experience. What matters
is whether the content is worth it. What matters is whether the value in
exploring the page outweighs the difficulty in doing so.

Another: Ads placed next to the best content are seen more often.

Again, painfully obvious. But does this mean that people actually see the
ads, or that they happen to fixate on them for more than a millisecond? Does
it mean they read them? Click them more often?

There are so many factors to consider in web design and usability, it's hard
to imagine that eye-tracking results can yield information that is truly
helpful.

-r-

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] OK/Cancel

2007-11-21 Thread Luke Wroblewski
All of the participants (23) used the buttons on all of the options  
(6). So 138 times out of 138 tested, no on used hit Enter to  
complete a form.

The options we chose were based off an audit of Web forms not desktop  
apps. Hence why you don't see some of the variations you are asking  
about. I pulled the most common solutions that came up. thanks~


On Nov 21, 2007, at 8:04 AM, Todd Zaki Warfel wrote:
 Excellent question. Luke, any insights into this? I don't think this
 was mentioned in the article.

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] HELP! IxDA Needs a Wordpress expert for the Interaction08 web site - possible conference discount for the lucky volunteer.

2007-11-21 Thread David Malouf
I want to apologize. In my rush to get out this ad in a hurry, I
inadvertantly put in a very US-centric reference. 

I realize that only the US is on a 4-day weekend this weekend, so
I'm sorry to all the non-USers on the list.

sorry!

-- dave


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2007-11-21 Thread robertnero
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] HELP! IxDA Needs a Wordpress expert for the Interaction08 web site - possible conference discount for the lucky volunteer.

2007-11-21 Thread Robert Hoekman, Jr.

 We want to integrate a blog and some other CMS like functionality into
 the site with the appropriate skin/theme.


1) How quickly?2) What CMS-like features need to be created?
3) How willing are you to put a company logo on the site to credit the
person that handles it? (I don't need the discount, but could always user
another portfolio piece for the new company.)

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Does eye-tracking carry any real meaning?

2007-11-21 Thread Murli Nagasundaram
Good points.  But this follows the old saw that to the guy with a hammer,
the whole world looks like a nail.  All that the eye-tracking tells you is
that the user's eyes spend a lot of time looking at specific parts of the
screen/page.  No more, no less.  Eye tracking provides useful inputs once
one has already developed a couple of alternative design prototypes.  It can
help one make design choices some way along the design proces, but
eye-tracking alone cannot drive design.  Indeed, I don't know of any one
technique which by itself can or should drive design.  Despite having a
strong techie background myself, I let my intuitions guide me in coming up
with rough cuts which then can be measured against various guidelines,
paradigms or methods.

I believe that guidelines are useful aids/heuristics for those who already
have an eye and a feel for design, and who therefore know when to respect or
reject received wisdom; but no amount of guidelines can turn a random person
into a designer.

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Does eye-tracking carry any real meaning?

2007-11-21 Thread Nicholas Iozzo
From Nancy Broden:
One question I do have for the eye-tracking supporters out there: if
the results culled from all the eye-tracking studies where
implemented wouldn't all of our websites look the same or at least
very, very similar?
_

I do not consider myself an eye-tracking supporter anymore then I
consider myself a supporter of Allen wrenches (it is just a tool).
Also, as a consultant I have never encountered a situation in which I
felt eye tracking was the correct tool for the job. If I was back in
academia, I could imagine lots of times I would want to use it. 

Those caveats out of the way, lots of standards and best practices
have evolved on where to place navigations and body content. But in
no way do all sites look the same. These studies mean something in
aggregate. You take the results from all of the studies and you use
your training and judgment to apply it. 

If an eye tracking study just reports the results as a list of
commandments with none of the data or methodology behind it... then
we really can not use the results in our day-to-day job.

_
From Nancy Broden:
Eye-tracking feels like a desperate attempt to scientifically
prove the value of Design (with a big D) . I don't have enough time
to wade into that one...
___

I can see coming to that conclusion if we are just using it to study
a small set of marketing sites or some e-commerce sites. But I
recently read a great article (sorry can not find the link, but I
hope someone on this list has it) where an eye tracking study was
used to aid in the design of software for radiologists. What they
found was that radiologists had higher dwell times on tumors that
they missed. They where able to determine some of the misses the
radiologists may have caught on their own if they where better able
to go back to past images. Given that the fast bulk of what they look
at are true negatives, their muscle memory kicks in and they mark an
image as negative before they fully processed it.




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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Kindle

2007-11-21 Thread Mike Scarpiello
Maybe they only had 10 of them?

http://tinyurl.com/ypb8ea




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Re: [IxDA Discuss] OK/Cancel

2007-11-21 Thread Luke Wroblewski
saw some but much higher amount of primary button on the right alone.
Or primary button on the right  secondary action on the left (of the  
page).
We didn't test the first, cause no secondary action. We tested the  
second.


On Nov 21, 2007, at 11:16 AM, Todd Zaki Warfel wrote:

 On the web forms audit, you didn't find any web forms that use the  
 model of buttons right aligned with the default button to the right  
 and subsequent to the left? I find that a bit unusual, unless you  
 were focused on a specific subset, as that's a pretty common model I  
 regularly see, especially when shopping on-line, which came over  
 from desktop applications.



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] OK/Cancel

2007-11-21 Thread Todd Zaki Warfel
Got it. Looking at the results, looks like you focused on transaction  
based sites. Any specific type (e.g. shopping, account management,  
travel, hotel booking)? What was the make up of the sites you sampled  
for the models for testing? Also wondering if these were UK vs. US or  
another country focused sites. Just wondering if that might have  
contributed to the models you saw. I'm curious if there's some  
cultural impact here or not.

On Nov 21, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Luke Wroblewski wrote:

 saw some but much higher amount of primary button on the right  
 alone. Or primary button on the right  secondary action on the left  
 (of the page). We didn't test the first, cause no secondary action.  
 We tested the second.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] OK/Cancel [wrong heading - Jaiku ]

2007-11-21 Thread Susie Robson
You are right. I should have said, based on your personas, you should
know which applications or browsers your users use and if they are
primarily Windows users, even on a web page, you should follow Windows
conventions. Of course, I'm speaking from a more corporate experience
than the users who may not work outside the home and just use the web,
not any applications. 

One of my reasons is that Microsoft and Apple had done a lot of research
when writing the style guides for their desktop applications. Just
because we are now using the web, we shouldn't ignore their research.

But, just my opinion. I happen to be a consistency-freak. I'm also
really against having OK be a button while the Cancel is a text link.
Buttons are to perform actions--OK and Cancel are both actions.

Susie

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Susie wrote
I have not done extensive research but the standard has usually been:

If it's a PC, Ok is on the left, Cancel on the right
If it's a Mac, Cancel is on the left, OK is on the right

This assumption is correct if we are designing desktop applications.
But, what about online apps? We cannot determine what browser the
visitor is using, and then from it, decide the order of the buttons. How
about the millions of Google's users? Google displays the primary action
button (i.e. OK) on the left.

I think Luke W's article (posted on this thread previously) answers a
lot of our questions based on research and statistical data. Primary
button should be on the left, secondary button on the right. Buttons
should be left aligned.

-Juan


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Does eye-tracking carry any real meaning?

2007-11-21 Thread Leisa Reichelt
just a little sidenote:

it is fascinating to read the comments that people have left to the
originally quoted article - lots and lots of incredibly positive and
thankful comments with people talking of going back and redesigning
their sites as a result of this information.

it says a lot for the great demand out there for someone to make these
grand pronouncements about what works and what doesn't (with or
without context).

People do love their rules don't they.

I always find it a constant balancing act to try to give people this
sense of perceived value through pronouncements and actually getting
them to understand the context in which the design decisions are being
made.

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] OK/Cancel

2007-11-21 Thread Luke Wroblewski
US. e-commerce, registration, data entry mix.

On Nov 21, 2007, at 11:31 AM, Todd Zaki Warfel wrote:

 Got it. Looking at the results, looks like you focused on  
 transaction based sites. Any specific type (e.g. shopping, account  
 management, travel, hotel booking)? What was the make up of the  
 sites you sampled for the models for testing? Also wondering if  
 these were UK vs. US or another country focused sites. Just  
 wondering if that might have contributed to the models you saw. I'm  
 curious if there's some cultural impact here or not.




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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Does eye-tracking carry any real meaning?

2007-11-21 Thread Chris Keane
I think part of the problem with the article is that it frames eye
tracking as a tool for drawing sweeping conclusions, when it seems
far more appropriate for assessing a specific design and improving
performance in a manner similar to split testing (e.g. is this
heading getting ignored? What about if it were a little smaller?).
Eye tracking isn't relevant to branding issues or suggest solutions,
but it can give detailed feedback on a design's ergonomics and help
identify problems.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Does eye-tracking carry any real meaning?

2007-11-21 Thread Rob Tannen
Ah yes, eye tracking - it's like the intelligent design debate of
our field.

A few points to add:

-The reaction of isn't that obvious to some of the points
reminds me of reactions to findings from usability testing years ago.
 Yes it may be apparently obvious, but that doesn't mean it's not
worth validating (see Freakanomics, for example).  

-Eye tracking can be useful for diagnosing problems, not so much for
identifying them.  For example, a viewer may miss a critical item on
the screen - eye tracking can reveal whether the element was visually
detected or overlooked and direct changes accordingly.  

-There are some specific applications where eye tracking is
particularly useful.  The radiology example was one.  Another is when
we used eye tracking to determine whether a novel interface feature
(spatially expanding visual cue in the periphery) was affecting
visual scanning patterns.

Incidentally, in some cases attention precedes eye movements, and
vice-versa:
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/psocpubs/prp/2004/0066/0003/art4


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Communicating the need for context and it depends (Was: Does eye-tracking carry any real meaning?)

2007-11-21 Thread Robert Hoekman, Jr.

 It is tempting to dismiss pronouncements like this as clueless. But,
 the number of people who are ready to rush off and follow them is
 probably much greater than the number of subscribers to this list. :)


Great point! I think about this often, for example, whenever I see a blog
post or something that contains totally inaccurate or misleading
information. I think about all those poor people reading it that will take
it to heart and run with it, only to find out later the post was, well, bad.

The post about actionable lessons from eye-tracking was blogged about by
Seth Godin today. With an audience the size of his, a huge chunk of people
are now walking into the future armed with the belief that eye-tracking is
amazingly useful and that the so-called lessons on that list are
tried-and-true and should be applied regardless of the situation.

So how can we communicate the need to take any given set of design
 guidelines with a grain of salt and apply them in context to the
 wider community?


Tie up all the design and development bloggers of the world and force feed
them canned spinach until they promise to add disclaimers to their posts
that say, As always, the real answer is 'It depends.'?

Just a thought.

-r-

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2007-11-21 Thread Falkenburg, Nancy
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* Define and design new products, as well as re-work of current desktop and 
Internet-based offerings.
* Aid in concept development through focus groups, user interviews, surveys and 
observational studies.
* Work collaboratively in an interdisciplinary team, including members of the 
User Research, Engineering, Marketing, Product Support, QA, and Documentation 
teams.
* Manage the design process, drive decisions, create schedules, track issues.
* Deliver prototypes, mock-ups, and design specifications for your designs.
* Perform design reviews and partner with User Research in usability testing 
during various phases of the product development to evaluate and iterate the 
designs.
* Collaborate with designers and product developers to maintain consistent look 
and feel across the product lines.
* Use facilitative leadership skills to drive to the best outcome for 
stakeholders, resulting in others learning from you, and inspiring others to 
want to work with you.
* Stay up to date with new technologies and industry trends.
* Participate in and foster the Intuit Experience Design Community.
 
Required Education  Experience:

* Four-year product/interaction design, industrial design, human factors, or 
related degree
* 5+ years of user interface design experience with Web applications and sites, 
desktop, or mobile applications
* Strong knowledge of interface design processes and methodology in creating 
desktop and internet applications.
* Strong project and people management skills and be able to function as 
project leader as well as individual contributor
* Expertise with design software, such as Photoshop or Illustrator 
* Proficient in a variety of methods to convey ideas and concepts (e.g. 
wireframes, prototypes, storyboards, etc.)
* Excellent written and verbal communication skills.
* Ajax, Flash, DHTML, scripting, and various other technologies a plus
 
 

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[IxDA Discuss] job/ Senior User Interface Designer l Intuit l FTE l San Diego, CA

2007-11-21 Thread Falkenburg, Nancy
Intuit is looking for a Senior UI Designer to join our growing team. You will 
play a key role in delighting customers. You will produce innovative and easy 
to use design solutions for customers while satisfying business goals.

Responsibilities 

- Create innovative user experiences for existing and new product offerings 
that are grounded in an understanding of customers. 

- Work with a cross functional team on every stage of design and development 
from concept to completion. 
- Be imaginative and also detailed oriented. 
- Be a leader in creating task analyses, storyboards, user interaction models, 
information architecture, wire frames, prototypes, design briefs, specs and 
guidelines. 

- Influence team members and leaders to always seek solutions that are customer 
focused. 
- Mentor less experienced team members 
  
Qualifications :  - B.F.A. in Design or a BA/BS in HCI, Cognitive Science, or 
related. Master's preferred. 
- Five (5) to seven (7) years of industry experience shipping software products 
or web services and a strong portfolio. 

- Experience in design phases of the software development life cycle. 
- Skilled in taking solutions from hand sketches and storyboards to interactive 
Flash, HTML, or Director prototypes. 
- Experience developing and communicating UI design guidelines, templates, and 
standards. 
- Proven effectiveness working within cross-functional teams to include user 
research, product management, engineering, and marketing. 

- Having designed user experiences for consumer products for Fortune 100 
companies is a plus.  

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