Ok, this information has been helpful. What Elizabeth and Steve say
about the statistical methods (clustering, etc.) behind persona
creation makes sense, and that kind of analysis is something that I
already do.
The problem is that I've never witnessed nor heard of personas being
created in such
Hi
The biggest problem I've found with personas comes when they haven't been
explained fully to a client - for example a stakeholder has been forwarded
the persona document, and they see the personas as representing a
demographic rather than a segmentation based on likely user tasks.
I guess it's
That's a good point- I think Dan Brown may have made the point in
Communicating Design but in many coversatiins with Todd Z W - I would
say we all agree - if at all possible- never just email your
deliverable - especially conceptually abstract ones like personas,
concept models/maps,
Mike,
I think you make a mistake in assuming that creating the persona is an extra
step in the research process that could be eliminated - i.e. the persona
itself has no value, it is the research behind it that's really useful.
I recently went through a persona project which included going
I'm posting this on behalf of Marcel. He's one of the guys behind
SNIF.
To the IXDA group %u2013 thanks for all the interest on your group. I
have received multiple forwards of this post today. In the interest of
an intellectually fruitful discussion, I wanted to highlight and
clarify some of the
On Nov 18, 2008, at 6:36 AM, William Evans wrote:
Presentation of the deliverables is just as cruciall as the
documents themselves and you are on the hook for designing their
introduction to them :-)
I wouldn't even consider presenting something like personas any way
other than in
Over the past few years, I¹ve been imploring smaller companies who have
brochure-ware sites or have a limited product offering to put their contact
information (address, tel, email, fax) and if need by, their support
telephone and email on the homepage. Usually, in the header or footer
depending
I don't know of cants think of a place in the digital marketplace
where a user is forced to use one product and doesnlt have a choice to
switch - I think of a bill of rights as a contract between the
governed and the government that is endowed with the monopoly over
coercion and the legal
2008/11/18 Anthony Zeoli [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Over the past few years, I¹ve been imploring smaller companies who have
brochure-ware sites or have a limited product offering to put their contact
information (address, tel, email, fax) and if need by, their support
telephone and email on the
On Nov 18, 2008, at 10:47 AM, William Evans wrote:
Unfortunately, stupid ain't illegal.
Well if it was, we'd have to really increase prison space in the
states :).
Cheers!
Todd Zaki Warfel
President, Design Researcher
Messagefirst | Designing Information. Beautifully.
Unless your in the third world, isn't fax dead? I don't care where the
contact info is as long as it is clear - that is a clear Contact Us.
The funny thing is the number if web 2.0 companies that have a
spurious contatc and about us sections- the particularly fly by night
just have a web
A brief caution about one ugly trap of personas: Yes, they should be
based on user research. But their benefit does not come solely
through how a persona embodies the research. (It's a pretty lossy
compression of data if you think about it.)
A major benefit comes from the effect they have in
Hi Anthony,
Not sure that 'hiding it behind a click' is a fair description. There is
typically a lot of demand for the real estate on the main page of any site.
Certainly extending the page down is... we kind of free - as consumers seem
to get the top/bottom hierarchy of information.
Would it be
Sure, fax is dead. It's just showing remarkable
zombie tendencies. I'm constantly irritated by
people who want me to fax them thus-and-such, or
want my fax number so they can fax me
this-or-that and who absolutely will not allow
email communication -- if they even have the
capacity.
I think you make a mistake in assuming that creating
the persona is an extra step in the research process
that could be eliminated - i.e. the persona itself has no
value, it is the research behind it that's really useful.
I wasn't assuming that, though, Eva. Rather, it seems to me that the
Thursday November 20, 2008
5:30 to 7:00 pm
Accelerator Centre
Meeting Room #2
295 Hagey Blvd.
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
Hope to see you this Thursday, when Declan Whelan leads a workshop titled
Agility and User Experience: The Final Frontier. Last year, at our
7-Minute Soapbox event, Declan gave
On Nov 14, 2008, at 11:10 AM, David Shaw wrote:
Currently I am a senior
IxDer and starting to plot out my career path. Would love to hear
from
those who were in my shoes before that made the transition to the
next step.
The hard part is at the top. It's a fairly straightforward path
Hi,
Does anybody know of a good -- and free! -- alternative to using Word
with Track Changes?
Thanks,
Janet
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Does anybody know of a good -- and free! -- alternative to using Word with
Track Changes?
http://docs.google.com
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Dan,
I accept that we, users/consumers, often get a raw deal. Especially
given the new ground being broken in the information economy. I
reject that we do not have a choice in all but a few exceptional
cases. (I do not understand the insulin pump reference)
To take the iPod as an example; Top
Dan,
I accept that we, users/consumers, often get a raw deal. Especially
given the new ground being broken in the information economy. I
reject that we do not have a choice in all but a few exceptional
cases. (I do not understand the insulin pump reference)
To take the iPod as an example; Top
It's such a backward technology though and outside the convenience
most people's (or bureaucrats') rationales for wanting faxed copies
of something are deeply flawed. The assumption is that a faxed
document is somehow a proof of veracity than an EPS signature on an
electronic document. They are,
It's such a backward technology though and outside the convenience
most people's (or bureaucrats') rationales for wanting faxed copies
of something are deeply flawed. The assumption is that a faxed
document is somehow a proof of veracity than an EPS signature on an
electronic document. They are,
Fax is such a backward technology though and, aside from the
'convenience', most people's (or bureaucrats') rationales for wanting
faxed copies of something are deeply flawed. The assumption is that a
faxed document is somehow a proof of veracity than an EPS signature on
an electronic
Hi folks,
Quick plug for a new site I've launched called The Designers Review of
Books http://www.designersreviewofbooks.com
Although there are not yet any reviews on interaction design you can
be sure I will be covering that area quite a bit, given that it's my
own discipline. I'm going
Dan,
I accept that we, users/consumers, often get a raw deal. Especially
given the new ground being broken in the information economy.
Suppliers currently have the upperhand in a number of aspects; we're
not well educated on how we can get shafted, its a cool new world and
we forgive 'abuses',
No doubt bro, the very notion that a signature - without verification
of identity by an agreed upon third party, and then sealed/encrypted
to prevent man-in-the-middle attacks is simple ignorance.
will evans
emotive architect
hedonic designer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
617.281.1281
twitter:
I think it really comes down to the goals of the site and way users
use it. Many brochure ware sites exist as a one time destination
where the entire purpose is to entice users to contact the company.
In those cases putting the contact info on at the top of EVERY page
makes sense.
On sites that
How can the market respond to a problem that is almost entirely opaque?
Yes, there are some terms, buried in pages and pages of EULAs and Legal
speak, that consumers can read and try to decipher.
The truth is that people are not educated about the problem. I have no idea
the scope of information
Hey Andy,
Thanks again for starting this site, I've been wanting to see something like
it for a while. Nice design, too :)
I just read *The Laws of Simplicity* by John Maeda and know that it will
influence my work for a long time. The laws are simple (go figure) and
direct, and the design of
To take the iPod as an example; Top notch industrial design, good
interface design, terrible DRM.
Apple don't want DRM, the labels do. It's a service design problem
more than and interaction/product design problem: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/
But, I believe people will
Seriously, though, the reality of many goods and services isn't
once bitten, twice shy but once bitten, forever a walking vampire
of whatever system bit you. Buy a Nikon DSLR and a few Nikon lenses,
it's a bit switch to move to Canon. You can replace the camera
example with Mac/Windows,
On Nov 18, 2008, at 1:26 PM, Andy Polaine wrote:
But, I believe people will eventually learn, once bitten and twice
shy.
I don't think so, otherwise Windows would have died long ago.
Yup, that's theory vs. reality.
Cheers!
Todd Zaki Warfel
President, Design Researcher
Messagefirst |
I just recently relocated to Phoenix and was wondering if there were
any established IxDA meetups. If not, is there any interest in one?
I'd be interested, and I know some others that may be as well, but I don't
have time to do the organizational work. If you can get a meeting organized,
I'll
On Nov 18, 2008, at 1:11 PM, pauric wrote:
I reject that we do not have a choice in all but a few exceptional
cases. (I do not understand the insulin pump reference)
The data logged by my insulin pump isn't easily portable, if at all,
to another pump. (I don't own one, but have family
Todd/Andy But, I believe people will eventually learn, once bitten
and twice shy. I don't think so, otherwise Windows would have died
long ago.
Yup, that's theory vs. reality.
I strongly disagree. XP is a relatively good operating system.
Linux is a PITA to install for novices and OS X only
Todd, have you tried moving your music from an iPod to an open music
player?
Have you tried burning a song you paid for on iTune to more than 5
times?
Why are the songs on my iPhone wiped when I disconnect from my laptop
and connect to my desktop?
The iTunes ecosystem is a walled garden. Try
Andy Polaine wrote:
The assumption is that a
faxed document is somehow a proof of veracity than an EPS signature on
an electronic document. They are, of course, both easily faked.
I've been in security for a long time now, and while I know that things
are easily faked, I also know what makes
Pt. There have been plenty of viable options such that I would
argue windows has always been the least viable option for the last 15
years. Win 3.x an option? Pffft Win 95?
will evans
emotive architect
hedonic designer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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aim:
I'm less concerned about DRM and moving product between devices. That
is a choice of the consumer. Buy from Amazon if you don't like iTunes
(or Walmart). Or buy Android or Nokia if you don't like iPhone.
What bothers me, which I think Dan's rights are most important for
is my data. My attention
The assumption is that a faxed document is somehow a proof of
veracity than an EPS signature on an electronic document. They are,
of course, both easily faked.
I've been in security for a long time now, and while I know that
things are easily faked, I also know what makes the lawyers
Mac hardware to run OSX is only expensive if you are used to buying
really cheap gung pao kiddy boxes with no horsepower. As soon as you
buy a dell/sony/gateway with any real sack (to run all the programs u
must have to be a designer) you are paying comparable prices.
will evans
emotive
On Nov 18, 2008, at 6:19 AM, Pauric wrote:
There was no viable alternative to
Windows for the past decade but now that we have choice, we are
seeing people exercise their right to move.
That's funny. I know a lot of people who were happily not using
Windows for the past decade.
Best,
I've been a mostly happy Mac person for close to 15 years. OS 8.5-9
was a hiccup, but OS 7x and X have been pretty fantastic, all things
considered.
Now, if software/hardware systems could just respond at the speed I
work, we'd be onto something.
On Nov 18, 2008, at 2:40 PM, Jack Moffett
In a funny aside, Neal Stephenson's book In the Beggining was the
command line is a humorous slant on OS wars.
will evans
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hedonic designer
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Dave, I'm not saying consumer be damned. I'm saying a wise user is
better than dumb, ala this 'ucd' thinking...
http://en.scientificcommons.org/30004846
Try to protect users from the pitfalls of not taking care online and
the will never learn of the potential hazards. Along the lines of
these 5
I'm sorry fellas, but if anyone thinks the current crisis is the cause
of an unregulated free market, you really don't know what you are
talking about. (And interestingly, this relates to IxD in a way)
You can not look at our financial system and say we have an unregulated
free market when:
- We
coming in late here sorry,
I think this rocks, and that it could be made even better by rethinking how
it describes the things users use.
At the moment it uses the word 'product' and that's fine for insiders, but
to communicate to the world at large I feel another term might be better.
Product
I'm not really all that ga ga over these novelty hardware-driven UIs.
I've watched minority report more than a few times looking over the
potential of the interface. Seems entirely clumsy and slower than a
mouse is almost every possible context.
The Bond UI was interesting. But more-or-less like
Just a reminder,
For those who live in New Mexico, we're going to have an inaugural meet up on,
tomorrow night, November 19th at 5:30pm at Savoy in Albuquerque. More details
can be found on our Local Group site at:
http://groups.google.com/group/ixda-new-mexico
You can also follow IxDANM on
Wasn't the tabletop device in the Bond movie just a glorified
Microsoft Surface?
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