Re: [IxDA Discuss] JOB: UX/UI Consultancy for a few days (London)
Thanks for all the feedback. We have now hired for this position. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=49153 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] (JOB) Unix Designer for Vertafore. Located in Bothell, WA
Vertafore is looking for a seasoned User Experience Designer to join our talented group. As part of the Vertafore UX team, you can expect to be involved in all aspects of the process from concept to final design, including scenarios, sketches, flows, wire frames, final production-quality mockups, creation of graphical assets, and support of usability testing. You'll bring your knowledge of best-in-class web application design to help set the standard for our next generation of industry-leading products. Interested? Please click on this link to apply: http://vertafore.hodesiq.com/job_detail.asp?JobID=1829067user_id= Vertafore, Inc. is a leading provider of software, services and information to the insurance industry including independent agents, brokers, MGAs, carriers and reinsurers. For more than 30 years, Vertafore has leveraged a unique industry presence to deliver meaningful solutions-powerful technology, critical information and robust insights to help organizations effectively respond to business challenges and capture new opportunities. Vertafore solutions have helped more than 15,000 customers and 200,000 end users gain a competitive advantage to accelerate their business performance. Currently, over 1,200 employees nationwide, with continued growth plans well into the future. Our corporate headquarters are in Bothell, Washington with easy access to and from the Eastside and Seattle. We offer competitive compensation and benefit packages along with 18 days PTO/10 paid holidays, free parking and company sport teams and much more. A big advocate of training, development and promoting from within, we have a vested interest in our employees. Responsibilities: * Establish and document guidelines for visual and interaction design standards * Contribute to the evolution and strategy of design policies and practices. Particularly as they apply to the implementation of standards for interaction, color, typography, artwork, brand alignment and all other visual/interactive expressions of the user experience * Help ensure consistency and best-practice design across multiple product lines * Provide design expertise in support of scrum team activities * Translate user and business requirements into viable design concepts that inspire team members and colleagues to develop the right product. * Interface with key internal client and project stakeholders to ensure the user experience reflects customer needs and consistency. * Present and sell design concepts and support design from a practical standpoint to ensure implementation of design standards. * Manage design projects effectively and efficiently while maintaining priorities, deadlines and deliverables as set by the UX Manager Required Skills: * Bachelor's degree in graphic arts, interaction design, or other design-related field with a focus on human-computer interaction * Minimum of 5 years experience designing interactive software products. * Experience designing data-centric, line-of-business productivity applications is a definite plus. Designing these for the web is even better. * Strong graphic design and typography skills with the ability to systematically define visual style guidelines for productivity applications while ensuring that the brand is communicated through the design. * Strong skills in standard user-centered design deliverables and processes such as storyboards, navigation models, site maps, wireframes, redlines, design guidelines, etc. with an excellent understanding of when to use each. * Expert level skills with standard design tools (Adobe Creative Suite, Visio, PowerPoint, etc) * Experience working with user researchers developing research agendas to drive design * Working knowledge of HTML, XHTML, CSS, DHTML, JavaScript, and AJAX. Knowledge of Silverlight is a plus. * Willingness to travel (up to 10%) is desired. * A portfolio review will be required as part of the interview process. Candidates must be authorized to work in the United States to be eligible for consideration, visa sponsorship not available. Candidates with at least 18 months left on your EAD may be considered.We are only considering local candidates (Washington state) at this time. If you want to work for a company that is recognized as the industry leader in software and services to the insurance space, provides career opportunities at all levels, rewards success and provides work/life balance, come see what Vertafore has to offer! Vertafore is an equal opportunity employer. Vertafore Unleash your potential Mona Valdok Senior Recruiter 11831 North Creek Parkway N | Bothell, WA 98011 T 425 354 6234 | F 866 476 1584 vertafore.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe
Re: [IxDA Discuss] help text in input fields - bad?
I also confirm Mark's findings - during testing of a relatively complex form, information (e.g. required formatting) placed in fields was unnoticed by many users. They just didn't read it. Once the info was gone, it was harder for them to understand what went wrong and what the proper format was. I'd avoid help text in form fields unless available space is an issue. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=48953 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Can anyone point me to research about hiding interface elements?
A project that I am involved in has raised an interesting debate about reducing clutter in an interface. Specifically, one side believes that it is ok to completely hide some interface elements and only reveal them on rollover. I don't mean disable or dim them in a normal state and then make them obviously available on a rollover state, I mean make them magically appear out of nowhere when the user mouses over a specific area. Of course, the thinking is that placement should be intuitive, kind of like the user would be moving their mouse around thinking if I were a button that did X, I would want to be here... and then the element would appear. The argument is that while the functionality is completely hidden and needs to be discovered, it only needs to be found once. The advantage is that you reduce the amount of visual clutter. I'm opposed to the idea. I don't like forcing my users to hunt and peck around an application to learn what it does. The they only have to find it once belief feels like a crutch. An elegantly designed interface can be both immediately usable and pleasing to look at. One shouldn't be sacrificed for the other. For the life of me, though I can't find statistics to back up my instinct. I'd rather have some hard facts about the subject. Does anyone know of any studies or articles that address this? Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] JOB: Prototyping Developers for Nokia, Finland Based
Nokia are looking for X2 UI Prototype Developers for 6 months based in Espoo, Finland to start asap. They will provide support to UI design team in developing rapid prototypes and explore the boundaries of the Qt framework for next generation devices. You should ideally have strong experience of JavaScript and/ or Actionscript backed with a good understanding of the design process and an acute sense for visual design quality. Additional experience of Qt framework is a bonus. It's an exciting and cutting edge project with the opportunity to learn new skills. If interested, please feel free to get in touch with an updated CV and/or portfolio and indication of daily rates asap. Thanks Harry Dhebar Talent Acquisition Consultant Talent Acquisition Group Nokia UK Mb: +447775021910 Em: ext-harry.dhe...@nokia.commailto:ext-lynda.phill...@nokia.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Enterprise IT UI Strategy
I've been asked to develop a UI strategy to be implemented across our IT department for all our custom developed applications as well as user facing vendor systems such as peoplesoft, microsoft dynamics, and several others. I'm a rookie web developer and UI guy that is transitioning into a IxD/UX role and this is my first large scale project of this nature. Can anyone provide some advice on how to start, what to consider, and things to watch out for? Thanks, Brandon Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can anyone point me to research about hiding interface elements?
I don't know of a study as such, but something solid to back up your argument could be #6 in Jakob Nielsen's Ten Usability Heuristics, namely Recognition, no Recall. [ http://www.useit.com/papers/heuristic/heuristic_list.html ] I mean, if something is actually hidden, the user *might* stumble across it, but after that, what? They would have to RECALL where that area was in order to display that piece of the interface again. That's surely asking too much. I don't know how much clutter we are talking about here, but minimising interface areas seems like a better approach. The suggestion that users will find hidden areas intuitively seems a bit optimistic to me, too... Intuitively, I wouldn't move my mouse pointer around apparently empty space, thinking Oooh, maybe this would be a good spot for a button... ! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=49270 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can anyone point me to research about hiding interface elements?
Sorry... that should have read Recognition, not Recall... with a t! :) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=49270 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Eye tracking software
Hi, I am looking for information for eye tracking software. Is there any software for sys tracking? And how it works? Would be great if you can share some info. Sunil Information Architect http://flickr.com/photos/sunilshri/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Digital Designer, Hertfordshire, UK
Cyber-Duck www.cyber-duck.co.uk is looking for a highly motivated Designer with a strong background in art direction, design, Interaction Design and Information Architecture. Excellent English writing skills and some marketing experience will be required as well as some project management and client facing capabilities. The Designer will be an excellent conceptual designer, able to understand business strategies (front end and backend technologies) and create wireframes as well as pixel perfect storyboards with winning layouts, information design, colour schemes and GUI systems. Skills required: 1. Previous Digital Agency experience of at least 1.5 years 2. Strong knowledge of Photoshop, Illustrator 3. Degree in Interactive Media, Multimedia, Product Design, Architecture or similar 4. Mobile device design is a bonus 5. Fluency with Flash / After Effects is a bonus It is important that you can communicate easily, be a great team player and work well under pressure with the ability to process information quickly. Salary is based on experience. If this role sounds interesting please provide at least 2-3 of your best URL's or projects along with your CV. Please email j...@cyber-duck.co.uk Ref: DDESIGNIXD-02 Cyber-Ducks ethos is not to work with recruitment agencies. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Stop, Pause, Play
Somwhere in the fuzziness of my brain I recall a workshop with (I think) Chris Nodder from NN/g, in which he claimed that Play and Stop are the only two globally-recognised symbols, with Pause largely known but not universal. Other symbols (Forward, Reverse etc) are not widely recognised. Don't quote me though. Cennydd On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Stephen Holmes stephenwhol...@me.comwrote: I'm doing research for a paper on international naming conventions and how much the internet's use of english as a primary language has affected other languages and cultures. I'm starting with the universal icons and naming for the traditional Stop (a square), Pause (two horizontal bars) and Play (a right-pointing arrow). Do you think that these symbols are fully universal or are there some cultural holdouts (different symbols) out there that you know of? Also interested in the language translations of Stop, Pause, Play to see if there is language-specific translation that is being usurped by the english equivalents. regards Stephen Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Study IxD - What are my options?
Hi there, I am so happy I found this place and believe that I will finally find answers to my zillions of questions ;) I have a degree in media management (which is like business administration for media companies) and currently work as a product manager for an innovative online company in germany. As product manager I constantly do concepts about our websites and features, so I already have professional experience in the area of interface and web design. I always had a huge passion for design, internet and photography. And now I want to commence my educational career in this area. I am looking for any kind of degree (certificate, associates degree, masters, ...) in the US which should be 1-2 years in duration. Ideally the curriculum should cover parts from graphic design (like color theory, photoshop, illustrator) and preferrably some areas of development as html and flash. I have found a couple of programs in Australia, which would be an option for me, too. But I really really want to go to the US! What would you do in my situation? Where should I look for universities or degrees. So far I have found programs like the MSP at San Fran State and some others. I`d love to study in San Francisco...what do you think? Is there any good schools around the bay area which would fit my needs? Thanks a lot! Jan Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Study IxD - What are my options?
Hi Jan, if you want to go on the west coast one of the best institute is at Stanford: http://www.stanford.edu/group/dschool/ But the admission for this september are already closed. Otherwise have a look at this: http://www.core77.com/design.edu/ you will probably find something interesting. In USA one of the most prestigious is the Rhode Island School. Good luck! T . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=49279 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Study IxD - What are my options?
I can't speak for San Francisco, but in New York City, you have Parsons School of Design (http://www.parsons.edu/). The school has a Graphics and Digital Design Certificate program here: http://www.parsons.edu/continuing_ed/cert_graphic.aspx. On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Jan S. moopoi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I am so happy I found this place and believe that I will finally find answers to my zillions of questions ;) I have a degree in media management (which is like business administration for media companies) and currently work as a product manager for an innovative online company in germany. As product manager I constantly do concepts about our websites and features, so I already have professional experience in the area of interface and web design. I always had a huge passion for design, internet and photography. And now I want to commence my educational career in this area. I am looking for any kind of degree (certificate, associates degree, masters, ...) in the US which should be 1-2 years in duration. Ideally the curriculum should cover parts from graphic design (like color theory, photoshop, illustrator) and preferrably some areas of development as html and flash. I have found a couple of programs in Australia, which would be an option for me, too. But I really really want to go to the US! What would you do in my situation? Where should I look for universities or degrees. So far I have found programs like the MSP at San Fran State and some others. I'd love to study in San Francisco...what do you think? Is there any good schools around the bay area which would fit my needs? Thanks a lot! Jan Reply to this thread at ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=49279 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can anyone point me to research about hiding interface elements?
Hi Gabor, It sounds like you're talking about an extras on demand approach. http://designinginterfaces.com/Extras_On_Demand Where you have too much to fit on one page, but they still have to be easily accessible. Depending on what you're hiding there are various design patterns you could use, such as: - Accordion mensu - Collapsable panels - Carousels, for more imagery - Pagination, for a long page Hope this helps. Cheers Graham . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=49270 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Study IxD - What are my options?
And don't forget one of the finest new programs in, SVA, which offers an MFA in Interaction Design http://interactiondesign.sva.edu/ and is run by Liz Danzico. You might also consider CMU, Masters in Design, and Bentley College's MS in Human Factors in Information Design. ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems Will Evans | Director, Experience Design tel: +1.617.281.1281 | w...@semanticfoundry.com http://blog.semanticfoundry.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/semanticwill aim: semanticwill gtalk: semanticwill twitter: semanticwill skype: semanticwill On Feb 11, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Anthony Zeoli wrote: I can't speak for San Francisco, but in New York City, you have Parsons School of Design (http://www.parsons.edu/). The school has a Graphics and Digital Design Certificate program here: http://www.parsons.edu/continuing_ed/cert_graphic.aspx. On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Jan S. moopoi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I am so happy I found this place and believe that I will finally find answers to my zillions of questions ;) I have a degree in media management (which is like business administration for media companies) and currently work as a product manager for an innovative online company in germany. As product manager I constantly do concepts about our websites and features, so I already have professional experience in the area of interface and web design. I always had a huge passion for design, internet and photography. And now I want to commence my educational career in this area. I am looking for any kind of degree (certificate, associates degree, masters, ...) in the US which should be 1-2 years in duration. Ideally the curriculum should cover parts from graphic design (like color theory, photoshop, illustrator) and preferrably some areas of development as html and flash. I have found a couple of programs in Australia, which would be an option for me, too. But I really really want to go to the US! What would you do in my situation? Where should I look for universities or degrees. So far I have found programs like the MSP at San Fran State and some others. I'd love to study in San Francisco...what do you think? Is there any good schools around the bay area which would fit my needs? Thanks a lot! Jan Reply to this thread at ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=49279 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhone Prototyping
I would second Dan's suggestion for Flash Catalyst. However, that's already been mentioned so...If you're looking for the design elements of the iPhone for prototyping this recent post has a large collection of elements for different software(Photoshop, Illustrator, fireworks etc): http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/02/05/50-free-ui-and-web-design-wireframing-kits-resources-and-source-files/ Scroll down to/or search for 'Mobile App Development Resources' on the page. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=49145 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Eye tracking software
Check 'Tobbi' Rony On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:28 PM, sunil shri scats...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I am looking for information for eye tracking software. Is there any software for sys tracking? And how it works? Would be great if you can share some info. Sunil Information Architect http://flickr.com/photos/sunilshri/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Facebook on Google Buzz: How Well Does That Friendship Model Work?
As a long time Facebook and (intermittent) Twitter user, I was completely frustrated by the lack of clear privacy settings and explicit friendships. Their algorithm to determine my friendships was far from accurate. And I have no idea what they will recommend. On the other hand, it's like having Pownce back! Images, videos and links. Explicit commenting. Yea! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=49241 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Enterprise IT UI Strategy
A single strategy will likely fail Brandon. Context is so crucial to what we do. It over regulary usurps cosistancy. Of course I am being somewhat pedantic... But it's worth setting realist expectations for that strategy. Mark Sent from my iPhone On Feb 10, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Brandon Adams badams...@gmail.com wrote: I've been asked to develop a UI strategy to be implemented across our IT department for all our custom developed applications as well as user facing vendor systems such as peoplesoft, microsoft dynamics, and several others. I'm a rookie web developer and UI guy that is transitioning into a IxD/UX role and this is my first large scale project of this nature. Can anyone provide some advice on how to start, what to consider, and things to watch out for? Thanks, Brandon Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Seeking: Confusing/misleading signs, hard to use devices, etc
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Arthur Fink art...@arthurfink.com wrote: It could be a tub/shower faucet where you can't easily figure out how to switch the water flow, an emergency brake in a car that is effectively hidden ... anything distinctly anti-usable. Hi Arthur, Ezra Gildesgame recently created http://ixdfail.com as an open library of interaction design failures. Fun fact: at the same time he built the ixdfail.com site for fun Ezra built the Saved Searches feature of the new ixda.org site. I hope that helps, Greg -- Greg Knaddison | 303-800-5623 | http://growingventuresolutions.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Facebook on Google Buzz: How Well Does That Friendship Model Work?
Google increasingly gives me the creeps. Yes I am sending this from my Gmail account, which is a widget in my iGoogle home page. And I am increasingly wondering if having Gmail iGoogle accounts is such a good idea. I really don't want any other integrated cleverness from Google. They have become too pervasive and inscrutable for me to completely trust now. Although undoubtedly irrational on my part, my sense of unease is affecting consideration of other Google initiatives which are probably completely unconnected, like Android. If any clever Google intelligences are monitoring, artificially or otherwise, know that Buzz is the point at which you overstretched and went too far for my comfort. Michael Micheletti On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:42 PM, John Romano jrom...@capstrat.com wrote: As a long time Facebook and (intermittent) Twitter user, I was completely frustrated by the lack of clear privacy settings and explicit friendships. Their algorithm to determine my friendships was far from accurate. And I have no idea what they will recommend. On the other hand, it's like having Pownce back! Images, videos and links. Explicit commenting. Yea! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=49241 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Michael Micheletti michael.michele...@gmail.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Study IxD - What are my options?
Jan, I think we can all list programs that we are excited about, but it is really unclear what you are looking for in a program, why the US, and we don't even really know what type of program you are looking for. I think saying, IxD is pretty vague as the philosophies of IxD vary greatly. I.e. I would have never included d.school @ stanford as an IxD program, but the Design Strategy MBA at CCA is most definitely one. (Winner of the IxDA student competition is from that program). If I was picking a school, I'd have to include the European programs in Scandinavia, Holland and the UK for sure. When picking a program I think Dan Saffer put this back in a thread a couple of weeks ago and I'm paraphrasing: 1) Where were graduates hired? 2) Who are the alumni? 3) What corps have relationships with the school? 4) What does the school's portfolio look like? 5) Are there profs/faculty there you want to study with? Geography, might have some value, but for graduate study is mostly a distraction that you don't have time for anyway. ;-) -- dave . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=49279 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Eye tracking software
Also, do a search at the IxDA website - this list has hashed over this subject often already. On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:23 AM, Rony Philip wrote: Check 'Tobbi' Rony On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:28 PM, sunil shri scats...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I am looking for information for eye tracking software. Is there any software for sys tracking? And how it works? Would be great if you can share some info. Sunil Information Architect http://flickr.com/photos/sunilshri/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] SiGraDi 2010 conference @ Universidad de los Andes, Bogota, Colombia.
Dear all, I´m gladly inviting you all to participate in SiGradi 2010. SiGraDi (Iberoamerican Society of Digital Graphics) has been organizing conferences since 1997 and is the Southamerican peer of ECAADE, ACADIA, CAADRIA and ASCAAD, which some of you might be familiar with. Congress that will be held between 17th and 19th November 2010 in Bogota, Colombia. It will be hosted by Universidad de los Andes, and put together by the Architecture and Design Department along with Engineering, Arts and Mathematics Departments in search for connections between disciplines. Our 2010 main theme is Disruption, Modeling and Construction: Shifting Dialogues. The papers and works can apply to the proposed theme and/or to SIGRADI interest areas that contribute to the knowledge field divided in the following areas and focus on: Design supported by collaborative environments (CAD-i) * Simulation and numerical modeling * Complex dynamic system representation * Collaborative ambients based in simulation of complex phenomena * Modeling technique and simulation of complex phenomena to real time applications * Collaborative ambients evaluation Human Machine Interfaces (HMI or HMHI) * Tangible interfaces * Haptic Interfaces * Collaboration interfaces * Training interfaces * Interface evaluation Visualization and decision-making * Visual analytics * Support systems to Urban mobility decision * Support systems to Public Health decision Urban interventions * Planning ambients * Prevention and emergency maneuvering * Ambientes para su gestión * Artistic insertions an Manifestations New media in heritage conservation * Representation and visualization of architectonic heritage * Support to reconstruction of cultural heritage (arqueology, anthropology) Didactics and curriculum * Digital tools fabrication to support teaching * Alternative visualization systems Enhanced reality, virtual reality, etc * Collaborative systems to Project definition * Didactic experiments based on disruptive use of Tics Disruption poetics * Idea, discontinuity, chance, collisions, accidents, chaos, final work * Disruptive events inside creation projects * Creation, chaos, chance Languages: Spanish, Portuguese, English TIMELINE Sigradi 2010, Bogotá presentation at Sigradi 2009, São Paulo November 18 - 2009 Call for abstracts January 15 - 2010 Second call for abstracts February 1 - 2010 Last day for sending abstracts April 1 - 2010 e Abstracts revision period by Editorial Comittee April - may - 2010 Abstracts evaluation period by Scientific Comittee May - June - 2010 Abstracts final revision period by Editorial Comittee June - July- 2010 Divulgation of selected abstracts July 15 - 2010 Final date for sending full papers an payment September 17 - 2010 Register and payment Begin July 15 - 2010 Ends - Authors until September1 - 2010 - Professionals and students until October 1 - 2010 Revision, organization and publication of full papers September 17 October 15 - 2010 SIGRADI 2010 Registration day November 16 Congress November 17,18 y 19 For further info go here: http://sigradi2010.uniandes.edu.co/ If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Leonardo Parra, Chair Local Organizing Committee SIGraDi 2010 Sociedad Iberoamericana de Gráfica Digital Universidad de los Andes Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Facebook on Google Buzz: How Well Does That Friendship Model Work?
Oh please, you guys! Buzz is just Facebook but with your Gmail connections. Buzz is Facebook mobile - and these two companies are going to be fighting it out for top Social Network. My prediction is this: when the masses start invading and annoying Facebook, the digitally savvy will move over to Google Buzz. And then Buzz will have a certain sector to polish the concept and features. By the time the mainstream gets over to Buzz, there will be a cultural standard that will be followed, and mainstream people won't be bitching about changes since there won't be many more as Buzz will have already perfected most features. Mark it: I said it. On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Jarod Tang wrote: If any clever Google intelligences are monitoring, artificially or otherwise, know that Buzz is the point at which you overstretched and went too far for my comfort. yup, share the same feeling -- @jarodtang Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Seeking: Confusing/misleading signs, hard to use devices, etc
As Jack mention, This Is Broken shut down, but the associated Flickr group continues to add photos (some of which might be appropriate for what you're looking for): http://www.flickr.com/groups/thisisbroken/pool/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=49208 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Enterprise IT UI Strategy
watch out for when the company doesn't have the resources ($ or people) or insight to actually do interaction design in each application, but instead asks for a manual or style guide. The technologists/CTO will usually ask for this in his naive view that if there was a guide, then he could have every developer make easy to use products that all fit the corporate brand. the best you can do is present some visual design guidelines and some brand rules, and maybe some overarching patterns. however, one of your tasks is to make them realize that designing cohesive applications in a large space is not paint-by-numbers it requires designers. On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:51 AM, Brandon Adams badams...@gmail.com wrote: I've been asked to develop a UI strategy to be implemented across our IT department for all our custom developed applications as well as user facing vendor systems such as peoplesoft, microsoft dynamics, and several others. I'm a rookie web developer and UI guy that is transitioning into a IxD/UX role and this is my first large scale project of this nature. Can anyone provide some advice on how to start, what to consider, and things to watch out for? Thanks, Brandon Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Facebook on Google Buzz: How Well Does That Friendship Model Work?
Michael Micheletti wrote: Google increasingly gives me the creeps. Yes I am sending this from my Gmail account, which is a widget in my iGoogle home page. And I am increasingly wondering if having Gmail iGoogle accounts is such a good idea. I really don't want any other integrated cleverness from Google. They have become too pervasive and inscrutable for me to completely trust now. Although undoubtedly irrational on my part Speaking as someone with rather extensive experience in the privacy and security arena, I don't think it's irrational at all. I have an Android G1 and I set up a special account for calendar/address book syncing. I really don't want all of my business information tied to my browsing history, my purchasing history, and my personal life in general. -- J. E. 'jet' Townsend, IDSA Design, Fabrication, Hacking design: www.allartburns.org; hacking: www.flatline.net; HF: KG6ZVQ PGP: 0xD0D8C2E8 AC9B 0A23 C61A 1B4A 27C5 F799 A681 3C11 D0D8 C2E8 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] iPhone prototypes in Flash?
Has anyone created any iPhone prototypes in Flash? I realize that Flash doesn't run on the iPhone but it still has potential for off- device visualizations. I'd like to include your examples in an upcoming book on iPhone design. Please contact me directly at: suza...@ginsburg-design.com if you're interested. You will be given credit in the book. If you've tried other creative approaches to iPhone prototyping, I'm open to hearing about those as well. I already have loads of examples that use paper, static images (shown via slideshow), images + Javascript, PowerPoint, Keynote, LiveView and video. All of these will be included in the book, due out this summer. Cheers, Suzanne blog: http://www.iphoneuxreviews.com/ work: http://www.ginsburg-design.com twitter: http://twitter.com/suzanneginsburg Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Enterprise IT UI Strategy
Brandon, I put together a couple of decks on Slideshare that somewhat cover your issues. Not trying to toot my own horn - well, not *too* much - but I've faced these issues too and have written up some of my experiences: Achieving Usability and a Great User Experience For Enterprise Products - http://bit.ly/9R7Qsa A Kit For Building User Experience Teams in RD Organizations - http://bit.ly/d4As37 My implementation guide is also available here: http://bit.ly/9PHg7u (Caveat; I need to update that document to reflect agile/SCRUM team functions. But it's better than nothing.) HTH, Paul - - - - - - - Paul Sherman, Principal, ShermanUX User Experience Research | Design | Strategy p...@shermanux.com www.ShermanUX.com +1.512.917.1942 - - - - - - - On Feb 10, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Brandon Adams wrote: I've been asked to develop a UI strategy to be implemented across our IT department for all our custom developed applications as well as user facing vendor systems such as peoplesoft, microsoft dynamics, and several others. I'm a rookie web developer and UI guy that is transitioning into a IxD/UX role and this is my first large scale project of this nature. Can anyone provide some advice on how to start, what to consider, and things to watch out for? Thanks, Brandon Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhone Prototyping
Hi Mitchell! At UNITiD we use Fireworks for iPhone prototyping. My colleague has built a very easy, open source tool which allows you to easily built prototypes for iPhone. You can include transitions like swipe, pop, fade, etc in a second. Please find a demo and all information and downloads here: http://unitid.nl/2009/04/prototyping-for-the-iphone-using-fireworks-cs3/ Regards, Inge Kuijper www.unitid.nl . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=49145 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] the UX Canon
Will and Dave have done a fantastic job of assembling a really high impact group of books. By that I meant, they did not throw every book in the lot... but assembled a manageable list of really high impact readings... certainly the core of what is needed. http://blog.semanticfoundry.com/2010/02/11/the-ux-canon-essential-reading-for-the-user-experience-designer/ But I think it is also time to add a another category. Working in a small shop, on your own, or even in a startup allows a designer room to work in a very pure structure. But the lions share of design work is in cross discipline, multi influence structures where the 'designing' is not the entirety of the job. Reviewing student work is always a challenge for me. It's usually a bit idealistic (and appropriately so). Students should reach for the stars and do unreasonable things... stretching the notion of what is 'possible'. But I always find myself wanting to tell them that the work they have executed as 'design' is only about a third of the job. Laying the ground work... and presenting, selling and even politic'ing are additional critical skills to seeing your design through. If your designs aren't realized, they can do very little good... and it's a terrible waste of no only the effort but the potential. Donald Reinertsen posits in 'Managing the design factory' that the unrealized design is probably the single largest point of waste in any organization. I think I agree. So... Maybe we need another category that includes those skills and tools. I would suggest that Bill Buxton's 'Sketching the User Experience', for instance talks a lot to those skill sets and might be better placed in this category. I would also submitt that Roger Martin's 'designing the business' is another... and 'managing the design factory' a third. Any other suggestions? Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] the UX Canon
I'd throw in Dan Roams's The back of the napkin, as a general introduction to visual problem solving, and as a basis for all the boxes and arrows you draw as UX practitioner. This category would of course very much broaden the scope, and you could ask whether books on requirements engineering, innovation or related topics should be included too. Milan . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=49303 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Developing a mentorship program
Have you been a mentor to someone in the interaction design field? Have you been mentored by someone? The IxDA LA is developing a local mentorship program and we are looking for people to share their experiences. What works, what doesn't? What have you gotten from being a mentor or mentee? What could be better? How did you get matched? If you have not been a mentor or mentee, but perhaps have wanted a mentorship relationship, what would you want from a mentor or mentee? What do you have to offer? Your thoughts and experiences are greatly appreciated! Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Developing a mentorship program
I'd love to sign up to find a mentor and be a mentor :) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=49305 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Developing a mentorship program
I've been a mentor and a mentee in the IA Institute mentorship program, and off the top of my head, here are some things that have worked: --Set expectations up front. This is the big one, and it needs to be done by both parties. What does the mentee hope to get out of the mentorship, and is the mentor able to provide it? Is it a structured mentorship, with set sessions every week/two weeks/month, or is it a let's chat when we have a chance mentorship? Will the mentorship be goal-focused (I need specific help while I'm working on this one project), educational, career guidance, or what? And practical expectations need to be set too--where, when, how will you interact? How long will the mentorship last? etc. Putting this stuff in writing, even just in an e-mail, is a good idea. It can be modified as you get into the mentorship, of course, but having something concrete as a starting point is a big help. --Be realistic. A mentee may want someone whom they can call whenever a problem or question crops up, and some mentors may be able to provide that, but others won't. Mentors should ask themselves how much time they can *really* give, not just how much they'd like to give. And mentees should have reasonable expectations of what their mentor can provide. --Be honest. A mentor-mentee pairing may look good on paper but not work out as expected in practice. If that happens, it's a good idea to end it early on rather than dragging out the relationship out of politeness. Neither party should take it personally if it doesn't work out. --Be prepared. This may not be true for everyone, but I found that it worked best to go into each mentorship session with something specific to talk about, and I would often jot down questions to ask. Unstructured chats can be rewarding too, of course, but in general, things will proceed more smoothly if you have a plan going in.This goes for the mentor as much as the mentee. Those are just some basic ideas. Flexibility is important too--no two mentorships are exactly alike, so these suggestions won't apply to all cases either. But they've worked pretty well for me. --Amy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=49305 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] [EVENT REMINDER] IxDA CHICAGO FEB 17th - INTERACTION10 REDUX
Couldn't make it to INTERACTION 10, the annual IxDA conference in Savannah this year? Come hear a recap of the speakers, events and learnings from IxDA Chicago members that attended. Read more about the speakers and workshops here: http://interaction.ixda.org/program/ Light food and drinks provided. Please rsvp on the IxDa Chicago site: http://www.ixdachicago.org *Note: Attendance capped at 60 due to space limitations. * Time: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 from 6pm to 8pm Location: Beyond Design Street: 4515 N. Ravenswood Ave. City/Town: Chicago, Illinois Website or Map: http://www.beyonddesign.org/ Phone: 9789303729 Email: chicago-lo...@ixda.org Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] the UX Canon
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:25 PM, mark schraad mschr...@gmail.com wrote: But I think it is also time to add a another category. Working in a small shop, on your own, or even in a startup allows a designer room to work in a very pure structure. But the lions share of design work is in cross discipline, multi influence structures where the 'designing' is not the entirety of the job. ... So... Maybe we need another category that includes those skills and tools. pragmatics... I agree. I tweet-proposed a designer-developer / developer-designer dictionary a while back, toward just that end: helping people get things done. I would suggest that Bill Buxton's 'Sketching the User Experience', for instance talks a lot to those skill sets and might be better placed in this category. I would also submitt that Roger Martin's 'designing the business' is another... and 'managing the design factory' a third. I'm sure it's already on the list, but wouldn't Russ and Carolyn's UX Project book fit in that category? -x- -- Christian Crumlish MY NEW BOOK: Designing Social Interfaces. http://designingsocialinterfaces.com Get It. Read It. Love It. Review it. on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/dp/0596154925/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Looking for Snr. Designer to assist
Hi folks, I am looking for User Interaface, UX, Information Architecture designer to assist. I am web designer, working at IT industry, and self practicing UI, UX, IA. If anyone looking for intermediate level designer, please let me know - sourabh.rangdal at gmail dot com. Thanks, Sourabh twitter: @sourabhrangdal Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Contract Information Architect Position in Los Angeles.
This is a six month contract in Glendale. Large Entertainment Company. Details: · Responsible for the Information Architecture effort for a specific business, project, or interaction domain as well as the standardization and streamlining of IA documentation and processes overall · Develops detailed navigation flows, site maps, wireframes and interface design/ functional specifications that capture site processes and all user interaction points for the specific projects. · Participate in multi-disciplinary project teams, often acting as a liaison between the Creative and the Technology teams · Contribute to business requirement definitions by analyzing and reconciling user, business, and technical needs · Create consistent information hierarchies for site navigation on both a system-wide level and a page-by-page or screen-by-screen level, while adhering to design uniformity within and across projects · Evaluate existing and new designs for quality and consistency, ensuring scalability of design on projects · Accurately estimate effort required and manage resources per project · Evaluate existing and new designs for quality and consistency, ensuring scalability of design on projects · Excellent visual / verbal communicator with a demonstrated strong creative vision for organizing interactive information systems If you are interested please email me at: tmur...@aquent.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Anyone have some good design examples of nested data?
Hi, In business applications, I often have to design a grid of data, and each item has another list of related data. For example, I want to display a list of customer data (first name, last name, telephone, email), and a single customer has several documents linked to him, where you want to see the filename, author, description etc. I often end up with 2 grids which present the data. On selecting the customer, the second grid shows the documents. This is not very intuitive for some people. Does anyone know some good examples of displaying this kind of nested data? What is the most intuitive way to do this? Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
