Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections time 2018

[Vasile Craciunescu]

Dear all,

Thanks to Tom Kralidis, I just realize that a mistake was introduced 
into the bellow message. Voting deadline is not 4th of December but 3rd 
of December, how it was reflected in all the vote messages sent to our 
charter member community. Please accept my most sincere apologies for 
this mistake. Also, please let us know if this mistake lead to 
significant problems in your voting schedule.


Thanks,
Vasile
CRO 2018



On 11/27/18 1:49 AM, Vasile Craciunescu wrote:

Dear charter members,

It's time to vote for our new members of the board of directors. Like in 
the previous years, an electronic voting system was setup. In minutes 
from now, emails with personal voting links will be sent to all our 
charter members. If you don't receive your voting link in the next 
couple of hours please let me know at c...@osgeo.org. Before doing that 
please also check your "Spam" folder. Sending hundreds of messages at 
once is not easy and it can be interpreted as spam by some of the 
filtering systems. Also, sometimes the e-mail addresses change but the 
charter member contact database is not up to date. We will try to 
contact all the members with bounced invitations via alternative 
email/twitter/linkedin/etc to update the email account and to make sure 
that are able to vote. Also, be aware that due to some technical 
problems on OSGeo infrastructure, the invitation to vote was delayed for 
24 hours. This is why the vote period was extended with 24 hours, until 
4th of December 2018.


Thank you for supporting OSGeo!

Best,
Vasile, Vicky & Jorge
CRO 2018



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[OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections time 2018

[Vasile Craciunescu]

Dear charter members,

It's time to vote for our new members of the board of directors. Like in 
the previous years, an electronic voting system was setup. In minutes 
from now, emails with personal voting links will be sent to all our 
charter members. If you don't receive your voting link in the next 
couple of hours please let me know at c...@osgeo.org. Before doing that 
please also check your "Spam" folder. Sending hundreds of messages at 
once is not easy and it can be interpreted as spam by some of the 
filtering systems. Also, sometimes the e-mail addresses change but the 
charter member contact database is not up to date. We will try to 
contact all the members with bounced invitations via alternative 
email/twitter/linkedin/etc to update the email account and to make sure 
that are able to vote. Also, be aware that due to some technical 
problems on OSGeo infrastructure, the invitation to vote was delayed for 
24 hours. This is why the vote period was extended with 24 hours, until 
4th of December 2018.


Thank you for supporting OSGeo!

Best,
Vasile, Vicky & Jorge
CRO 2018
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Board Elections: OSGeo needs you now!

[María Arias de Reyna]

Dear fellow members,

We are on the process of electing board members for the next two years.
This is the moment when you can leave a good footprint on OSGeo.

Is there something you think we should do better? Is there something you
think we can improve? Is there something you want to make sure doesn't fall
into oblivion? This is the best way to do it. Get involved on the board and
make sure things go as they should. As OSGeo member, you should have some
expectations, why don't you make sure yourself that they are fulfilled?

Also, elections are not fun if we don't have a pool of candidates to choose
from.

Have a happy day,
María.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Elections 2017 from the CRO point of view

[Jody Garnett]

I will be able to make it to for tomorrow 14:00 UTC, assume we are meeting
on the IRC channel.

1) Several recommendations were on offer

a) *Change the existing membership process with another one more balanced,
that assures both inclusiveness and a consistent weight for the charter
member position*

I believe that we can do a better job communicating our expectations from a
nomination to better match the "positive attributes" expected of charter
membership (perhaps example emails), and encourage members to respond with
more than a simple "+1" to better understand the strengths of those
nominated as a charter member.

I am not sure how we can encourage discussion, we are quite obviously
discussing individuals and have a chance of any discussion being taken
personally. Because of this handicap we must lean on the nomination process
to better represent the nominated individual.

I would also ask that we not summarize the membership process
 and instead trust our
voting members to review the page as written.

*(b) Impose a a very light template for the new nominations*

Agreed, To that aim I propose the following example email be added to the
membership process page for use in next years elections:

   - Please email c...@osgeo.org with *contact name*, *contact email
*and *paragraph
   and/or checklist describing why you are recommending this person and how
   they demonstrate the positive attributes expected of charter members*.

*CRO:*

*I would like to nominate Jane Doe as a voting member:*

*Jane Doe*

*j...@osgeo.org *

*Jane is a passionate researcher using open source as part of her thesis
work into rapid hydrology analysis. As part of her thesis she has developed
an open source plugin QGIS and become a passionate advocate speaking at GIS
Day and helping organize a local foss4g installfest event.*









*belief: Jane has demonstrated her belief in open source adopting the
principles of open geoscience for her research work. Her most recent paper
on aquifer depression provided a code examples of the analysis performed
along with the data used for her study.participation: Jane is a passionate
advocate speaking at GIS day and helping organizing a local foss4g
event.contributor: Jane has developed an open source QGIS plugin as part of
her ongoing thesis work. She has also taken part in code sprint activities
contributing to plugin documentation for the QGIS 3.0 release.volunteer:
Jane has devoted her own time to organizing a local foss4g installfest
event (link) and contributing to the plugin documentation for the QGIS 3.0
release (pull request).team work: Jane has demonstrated good teamwork
skills as part of the organizing committee for a local foss4g installfest
event.*


*(c) Rephrase responsibility no. 3 of the charter members*

Proposed wording:

*3. Our nomination process is inclusive by nature and we ask that care be
taken to preserve the long term goals and vision of OSGeo as an
organization. We seek to remain balanced, rather than driven by any single
group or viewpoint, and ask that you consider this balance during the
nomination process.*


(The wording is not perfect but it is a start).

*2) potential conflict of interest*

I am comfortable that any potential conflict of interest was handled
appropriately by Jeff withdrawing as co-CRO. I trust Jeff's character and
am satisfied with the response and clarifications offered on the discussion
list.

I am in favour of accepting the recommendation that anyone acting as CRO,
or assisting with the elections in any capacity, is not eligible to accept
a nomination.

To that aim I propose the following wording for tomorrows meeting:





* - Email a nomination, consisting of name, current country of residence
and a paragraph describing why you think this person would make a good
Board member, to c...@osgeo.org  by the end of the nomination
period. - The CRO will double check with the person that they would like to
stand for election as a Board member, and understand that once nominated
they may not withdraw from the process out of respect for participants.-
The CRO will confirm they are eligible to stand for election, the anyone
assisting with the election process is not eligible to stand for election-
Remember that only the Charter Members are eligible for a seat on the Board
and voting but that anybody can nominate a board member. - The final list
will be collected at  *
*3) create a clear rule stating that an accepted nomination cannot be
withdraw after the start of the voting period. *

I added the sanity check to the nomination process example above, but like
Sanghee I am *uncomfortable asking a volunteer to hold to a commitment that
they no longer feel they can meet*.  I think the best we can do is ask for
that solid commitment during the nomination process, and ask that they
notify the CRO if their circumstances change during the election period.

While their name 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Elections 2017 from the CRO point of view

[Helena Mitasova]

unfortunately it looks like I won't be able to make tomorrow, although I
will try to connect.

I mostly agree with Michael and I don't think we should repeat the election
for the many reasons that CRO has highlighted.
The rules for the next election will need to be revised and updated by the
new board in response to CRO comments and suggestions.

Helena

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Michael Smith  wrote:

> I should be able to make it tomorrow but I will publish my thoughts here.
>
> 1) while we have had something more involved in previous years, the end
> result was the same. I’d really hate to change the process again so quickly
> although I do like the template idea. Maybe via form on the wiki or
> something. But if people really don’t like the new process I’m not that
> against changing it but if we do change it, imho it needs to be done right
> after the election and not close to next years process.
>
> 2) I still feel that nothing bad was followed here. I think recusal from
> CRO after nomination is reasonable as long as it’s before voting or setup
> etc.
>
> 3) since these are all voluntary positions, I feel that any one should be
> able to withdraw if that’s what they feel is necessary. We don’t know what
> all went into the decision but I believe that anyone nominated would act in
> a heartfelt and considered manner. If Jeff felt the need to withdraw, I
> think we need to respect that, even if during the election. The end result
> is the same as if he withdraws after, except that some people had more info
> to make a decision.  This could happen to anyone if their circumstances
> changes. It’s something I think we have to allow for as real life can
> interfere with our best intentions.
>
>
> Finally I agree with the decision to not redo the election. If there was
> something that interferes with integrity of the election, then there would
> be cause but these are just, frankly, almost to be expected issues. We are
> just fortunate that we haven’t been as affected by these in previous years.
>
>
> Michael Smith
> OSGeo Treasurer
>
> > On Oct 25, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Vasile Craciunescu 
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Board directors and dear members of OSGeo community,
> >
> > This year elections [1] will end in less than 7 hours and it is time for
> me, as CRO, to make a short assessment and to issue a few recommendations.
> >
> > As you all know, during the process we had a few situations that caused
> tension and discontent to an important number of our members. I will go
> through the most important ones.
> >
> > 1. This year membership process [2] was a very lite one. The basic rule
> for becoming a charter member was to be nominated by one existing member
> and to be seconded by at least one other existing member. This lite
> approach was in line with the new OSGeo Vision and Mission Statement which
> is focused on being inclusive [3]. However, during the nomination period,
> many of our members considered the new membership process way too
> inclusive/lite, causing a diminution in the importance of the charter
> member position. Another subject that produced criticism was related to the
> fact that some of the nominations were considered short in content and did
> not offer enough information on the "positive attributes" [4] that a
> potential member shall have. Finally, one of the charter member
> responsibilities [5], "Be aware of and protect against a takeover of OSGeo
> by single group or viewpoint.", was also a subject of dispute. My
> recommendations for the future board are to: (a) Change the existing
> membership process with another one more balanced, that assures both
> inclusiveness and a consistent weight for the charter member position. Of
> course, this new mechanism should be discussed with the community; (b)
> Impose a a very light template for the new nominations. This way, all the
> nominations will be consistent and comparable. (c) Rephrase responsibility
> no. 3 of the charter members. The meaning should be kept bu the wording
> should not sound that martial.
> >
> > 2. Jeff was nominated for the board of directors while was serving as
> co-CRO. Even if the nominee steeped down immediately from the co-CRO
> position, the access to the c...@osgeo.org was immediately cut-off and he
> never had access to the electronic voting system, criticism over the
> potential conflict of interest and elections credibility was raised. My
> recommendation for the board is to make a specific rule that a
> nomination/candidacy for/from a person that is acting as CRO or has any
> other role in the election management is not acceptable.
> >
> > 3. During the voting period Jeff sent a request to withdraw from the
> elections due to the negative feedback. This also started a vivid debate.
> My recommendation for the board is to create a clear rule stating that an
> accepted nomination cannot be withdraw after the start of the voting
> period. Of 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Elections 2017 from the CRO point of view

[Michael Smith]

I should be able to make it tomorrow but I will publish my thoughts here. 

1) while we have had something more involved in previous years, the end result 
was the same. I’d really hate to change the process again so quickly although I 
do like the template idea. Maybe via form on the wiki or something. But if 
people really don’t like the new process I’m not that against changing it but 
if we do change it, imho it needs to be done right after the election and not 
close to next years process. 

2) I still feel that nothing bad was followed here. I think recusal from CRO 
after nomination is reasonable as long as it’s before voting or setup etc. 

3) since these are all voluntary positions, I feel that any one should be able 
to withdraw if that’s what they feel is necessary. We don’t know what all went 
into the decision but I believe that anyone nominated would act in a heartfelt 
and considered manner. If Jeff felt the need to withdraw, I think we need to 
respect that, even if during the election. The end result is the same as if he 
withdraws after, except that some people had more info to make a decision.  
This could happen to anyone if their circumstances changes. It’s something I 
think we have to allow for as real life can interfere with our best intentions. 


Finally I agree with the decision to not redo the election. If there was 
something that interferes with integrity of the election, then there would be 
cause but these are just, frankly, almost to be expected issues. We are just 
fortunate that we haven’t been as affected by these in previous years. 


Michael Smith
OSGeo Treasurer 

> On Oct 25, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Vasile Craciunescu  
> wrote:
> 
> Dear Board directors and dear members of OSGeo community,
> 
> This year elections [1] will end in less than 7 hours and it is time for me, 
> as CRO, to make a short assessment and to issue a few recommendations.
> 
> As you all know, during the process we had a few situations that caused 
> tension and discontent to an important number of our members. I will go 
> through the most important ones.
> 
> 1. This year membership process [2] was a very lite one. The basic rule for 
> becoming a charter member was to be nominated by one existing member and to 
> be seconded by at least one other existing member. This lite approach was in 
> line with the new OSGeo Vision and Mission Statement which is focused on 
> being inclusive [3]. However, during the nomination period, many of our 
> members considered the new membership process way too inclusive/lite, causing 
> a diminution in the importance of the charter member position. Another 
> subject that produced criticism was related to the fact that some of the 
> nominations were considered short in content and did not offer enough 
> information on the "positive attributes" [4] that a potential member shall 
> have. Finally, one of the charter member responsibilities [5], "Be aware of 
> and protect against a takeover of OSGeo by single group or viewpoint.", was 
> also a subject of dispute. My recommendations for the future board are to: 
> (a) Change the existing membership process with another one more balanced, 
> that assures both inclusiveness and a consistent weight for the charter 
> member position. Of course, this new mechanism should be discussed with the 
> community; (b) Impose a a very light template for the new nominations. This 
> way, all the nominations will be consistent and comparable. (c) Rephrase 
> responsibility no. 3 of the charter members. The meaning should be kept bu 
> the wording should not sound that martial.
> 
> 2. Jeff was nominated for the board of directors while was serving as co-CRO. 
> Even if the nominee steeped down immediately from the co-CRO position, the 
> access to the c...@osgeo.org was immediately cut-off and he never had access 
> to the electronic voting system, criticism over the potential conflict of 
> interest and elections credibility was raised. My recommendation for the 
> board is to make a specific rule that a nomination/candidacy for/from a 
> person that is acting as CRO or has any other role in the election management 
> is not acceptable.
> 
> 3. During the voting period Jeff sent a request to withdraw from the 
> elections due to the negative feedback. This also started a vivid debate. My 
> recommendation for the board is to create a clear rule stating that an 
> accepted nomination cannot be withdraw after the start of the voting period. 
> Of course, elected persons can always resign for various reasons.
> 
> Regarding the current status of the elections. 311 from a total of 390 
> members voted (80%). Due to the final reminder sent today there are chances 
> to improve the voting participation.
> 
> In my previous message I was proposing to accept Jeff's withdraw request but 
> to continue the elections without any modification to the voting list. After 
> more study on different voting systems and 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Elections 2017 from the CRO point of view

[Massimiliano Cannata]

Vasile, Thanks.

On the election, I think fair play should not be an option in our
community. I hope we're not loosing respect and ethics... getting closer to
politicians...

I hope 2018 will be the OSGeo year of "open values" and "reach in" to
remember our roots.

Maxi



Il 25 ott 2017 11:06 PM, "María Arias de Reyna" 
ha scritto:

>
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:54 PM, Anita Graser  wrote:
>
>> Thank you for your summary and assessment of the situation, Vasile!
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 9:57 PM, Jody Garnett 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am not sure I have collected my own thoughts, in the interests of
>>> meeting your request I would like to ask if the current board members are
>>> available for 14:00 UTC tomorrow.
>>>
>>
>> ​I can't guarantee that I'll be able to make it, but here are my thoughts:
>>
>> 1) +1 Vasile's recommendation "to create a clear rule stating that an
>> accepted nomination cannot be withdraw after the start of the voting
>> period", and therefore
>>
>> 2) +1 the recommendation "not to admit the [withdrawal] request from Jef"
>>
>> 3) +1 "not to start new elections" for the reasons summarized by Vasile
>>
>
>
> Although it is true that this hasn't been very peaceful elections, I am
> against of restarting the elections. If this is a democracy, let us decide
> if we want to vote or not for someone. And if after the elections that
> person feels that there is too much pressure and cannot stand it, then let
> that person resign. And if we make a mistake and vote for someone who is a
> bad choice, well, we will learn and not vote for that person again, right?
> That's the beauty (and the beast) of the democracy. Mistakes can be made,
> but they are not forever.
>
> And this goes also for all the people who did campaign aggresively (public
> and privately) against one of the candidates. It is good to ask about
> things that worry you and to expose what you think it is a failure. But if
> there is nothing on the rules that prevents that person to be elected, as
> it was the case (maybe because of a loophole, but rules didn't explicitly
> say he couldn't be elected), then that's it. There is no need to push that
> to the personal level.
>
> Thanks a lot Vasile for the work done. I have no doubt you did the best on
> this case. And I hope the new board can work on your suggestions, I think
> they are the right path to go. And reinforce the rules to cover extreme
> cases.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Elections 2017 from the CRO point of view

[María Arias de Reyna]

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:54 PM, Anita Graser  wrote:

> Thank you for your summary and assessment of the situation, Vasile!
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 9:57 PM, Jody Garnett 
> wrote:
>>
>> I am not sure I have collected my own thoughts, in the interests of
>> meeting your request I would like to ask if the current board members are
>> available for 14:00 UTC tomorrow.
>>
>
> ​I can't guarantee that I'll be able to make it, but here are my thoughts:
>
> 1) +1 Vasile's recommendation "to create a clear rule stating that an
> accepted nomination cannot be withdraw after the start of the voting
> period", and therefore
>
> 2) +1 the recommendation "not to admit the [withdrawal] request from Jef"
>
> 3) +1 "not to start new elections" for the reasons summarized by Vasile
>


Although it is true that this hasn't been very peaceful elections, I am
against of restarting the elections. If this is a democracy, let us decide
if we want to vote or not for someone. And if after the elections that
person feels that there is too much pressure and cannot stand it, then let
that person resign. And if we make a mistake and vote for someone who is a
bad choice, well, we will learn and not vote for that person again, right?
That's the beauty (and the beast) of the democracy. Mistakes can be made,
but they are not forever.

And this goes also for all the people who did campaign aggresively (public
and privately) against one of the candidates. It is good to ask about
things that worry you and to expose what you think it is a failure. But if
there is nothing on the rules that prevents that person to be elected, as
it was the case (maybe because of a loophole, but rules didn't explicitly
say he couldn't be elected), then that's it. There is no need to push that
to the personal level.

Thanks a lot Vasile for the work done. I have no doubt you did the best on
this case. And I hope the new board can work on your suggestions, I think
they are the right path to go. And reinforce the rules to cover extreme
cases.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Elections 2017 from the CRO point of view

[Anita Graser]

Thank you for your summary and assessment of the situation, Vasile!

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 9:57 PM, Jody Garnett 
wrote:
>
> I am not sure I have collected my own thoughts, in the interests of
> meeting your request I would like to ask if the current board members are
> available for 14:00 UTC tomorrow.
>

​I can't guarantee that I'll be able to make it, but here are my thoughts:

1) +1 Vasile's recommendation "to create a clear rule stating that an
accepted nomination cannot be withdraw after the start of the voting
period", and therefore

2) +1 the recommendation "not to admit the [withdrawal] request from Jef"

3) +1 "not to start new elections" for the reasons summarized by Vasile

Thanks again Vasile for taking care of the process! I hope we will find
someone as dedicated for future elections.

Regards,
Anita



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Elections 2017 from the CRO point of view

[Jody Garnett]

Thank you for your dedication in fulfilling this role, extensive summary,
and patience through an unexpectedly turbulent election processes.

I am not sure I have collected my own thoughts, in the interests of meeting
your request I would like to ask if the current board members are available
for 14:00 UTC tomorrow.


On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:00 PM SERGIO ACOSTAYLARA <
sergio.acostayl...@mtop.gub.uy> wrote:

> Very well said. We need more people like you. You have my full support.
> 
>
> Sergio Acosta y Lara
> Departamento de Geomática
> Dirección Nacional de Topografía
> Ministerio de Transporte y Obras Públicas
> URUGUAY
> (598)29157933 ints. 20329/20330
> http://geoportal.mtop.gub.uy/
>
> 
> De: Discuss [discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] en nombre de Marc Vloemans [
> marcvloema...@gmail.com]
> Enviado: miércoles, 25 de octubre de 2017 15:21
> Para: Vasile Craciunescu
> Cc: OSGeo Discussions; osgeo-board List
> Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Elections 2017 from the CRO point of
>   view
>
> Thanks Vasile,
>
> You managed to cut down to the things that really mattered and that we can
> all learn from.
> Impressive clear and comprehensive summary. I hope his advice will be
> weighed and incorporated into future policies regarding the Foundation's
> governance.
>
> Kind regards,
> Marc Vloemans
>
>
> > Op 25 okt. 2017 om 20:00 heeft Vasile Craciunescu <
> vas...@geo-spatial.org> het volgende geschreven:
> >
> > Dear Board directors and dear members of OSGeo community,
> >
> > This year elections [1] will end in less than 7 hours and it is time for
> me, as CRO, to make a short assessment and to issue a few recommendations.
> >
> > As you all know, during the process we had a few situations that caused
> tension and discontent to an important number of our members. I will go
> through the most important ones.
> >
> > 1. This year membership process [2] was a very lite one. The basic rule
> for becoming a charter member was to be nominated by one existing member
> and to be seconded by at least one other existing member. This lite
> approach was in line with the new OSGeo Vision and Mission Statement which
> is focused on being inclusive [3]. However, during the nomination period,
> many of our members considered the new membership process way too
> inclusive/lite, causing a diminution in the importance of the charter
> member position. Another subject that produced criticism was related to the
> fact that some of the nominations were considered short in content and did
> not offer enough information on the "positive attributes" [4] that a
> potential member shall have. Finally, one of the charter member
> responsibilities [5], "Be aware of and protect against a takeover of OSGeo
> by single group or viewpoint.", was also a subject of dispute. My
> recommendations for the future board are to: (a) Change the existing
> membership process with another one more balanced, that assures both
> inclusiveness and a consistent weight for the charter member position. Of
> course, this new mechanism should be discussed with the community; (b)
> Impose a a very light template for the new nominations. This way, all the
> nominations will be consistent and comparable. (c) Rephrase responsibility
> no. 3 of the charter members. The meaning should be kept bu the wording
> should not sound that martial.
> >
> > 2. Jeff was nominated for the board of directors while was serving as
> co-CRO. Even if the nominee steeped down immediately from the co-CRO
> position, the access to the c...@osgeo.org was immediately cut-off and he
> never had access to the electronic voting system, criticism over the
> potential conflict of interest and elections credibility was raised. My
> recommendation for the board is to make a specific rule that a
> nomination/candidacy for/from a person that is acting as CRO or has any
> other role in the election management is not acceptable.
> >
> > 3. During the voting period Jeff sent a request to withdraw from the
> elections due to the negative feedback. This also started a vivid debate.
> My recommendation for the board is to create a clear rule stating that an
> accepted nomination cannot be withdraw after the start of the voting
> period. Of course, elected persons can always resign for various reasons.
> >
> > Regarding the current status of the elections. 311 from a total of 390
> members voted (80%). Due to the final reminder sent today there are chances
> to improve the voting participation.
> >
> > In my previous message I was proposing to accept Jeff's withdraw request
> but to continue the elections wi

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Elections 2017 from the CRO point of view

[SERGIO ACOSTAYLARA]

Very well said. We need more people like you. You have my full support. 

Sergio Acosta y Lara
Departamento de Geomática
Dirección Nacional de Topografía
Ministerio de Transporte y Obras Públicas
URUGUAY
(598)29157933 ints. 20329/20330
http://geoportal.mtop.gub.uy/


De: Discuss [discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] en nombre de Marc Vloemans 
[marcvloema...@gmail.com]
Enviado: miércoles, 25 de octubre de 2017 15:21
Para: Vasile Craciunescu
Cc: OSGeo Discussions; osgeo-board List
Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Elections 2017 from the CRO point of
view

Thanks Vasile,

You managed to cut down to the things that really mattered and that we can all 
learn from.
Impressive clear and comprehensive summary. I hope his advice will be weighed 
and incorporated into future policies regarding the Foundation's governance.

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 25 okt. 2017 om 20:00 heeft Vasile Craciunescu <vas...@geo-spatial.org> 
> het volgende geschreven:
>
> Dear Board directors and dear members of OSGeo community,
>
> This year elections [1] will end in less than 7 hours and it is time for me, 
> as CRO, to make a short assessment and to issue a few recommendations.
>
> As you all know, during the process we had a few situations that caused 
> tension and discontent to an important number of our members. I will go 
> through the most important ones.
>
> 1. This year membership process [2] was a very lite one. The basic rule for 
> becoming a charter member was to be nominated by one existing member and to 
> be seconded by at least one other existing member. This lite approach was in 
> line with the new OSGeo Vision and Mission Statement which is focused on 
> being inclusive [3]. However, during the nomination period, many of our 
> members considered the new membership process way too inclusive/lite, causing 
> a diminution in the importance of the charter member position. Another 
> subject that produced criticism was related to the fact that some of the 
> nominations were considered short in content and did not offer enough 
> information on the "positive attributes" [4] that a potential member shall 
> have. Finally, one of the charter member responsibilities [5], "Be aware of 
> and protect against a takeover of OSGeo by single group or viewpoint.", was 
> also a subject of dispute. My recommendations for the future board are to: 
> (a) Change the existing membership process with another one more balanced, 
> that assures both inclusiveness and a consistent weight for the charter 
> member position. Of course, this new mechanism should be discussed with the 
> community; (b) Impose a a very light template for the new nominations. This 
> way, all the nominations will be consistent and comparable. (c) Rephrase 
> responsibility no. 3 of the charter members. The meaning should be kept bu 
> the wording should not sound that martial.
>
> 2. Jeff was nominated for the board of directors while was serving as co-CRO. 
> Even if the nominee steeped down immediately from the co-CRO position, the 
> access to the c...@osgeo.org was immediately cut-off and he never had access 
> to the electronic voting system, criticism over the potential conflict of 
> interest and elections credibility was raised. My recommendation for the 
> board is to make a specific rule that a nomination/candidacy for/from a 
> person that is acting as CRO or has any other role in the election management 
> is not acceptable.
>
> 3. During the voting period Jeff sent a request to withdraw from the 
> elections due to the negative feedback. This also started a vivid debate. My 
> recommendation for the board is to create a clear rule stating that an 
> accepted nomination cannot be withdraw after the start of the voting period. 
> Of course, elected persons can always resign for various reasons.
>
> Regarding the current status of the elections. 311 from a total of 390 
> members voted (80%). Due to the final reminder sent today there are chances 
> to improve the voting participation.
>
> In my previous message I was proposing to accept Jeff's withdraw request but 
> to continue the elections without any modification to the voting list. After 
> more study on different voting systems and after going through your feedback, 
> my decision and proposal for the board is not to admit the request from Jeff. 
> Such requests are not possible in this kind of elections elsewhere. It is 
> true that we have no specific rule for that in our bylaws. As I mentioned 
> before, this should change. After the release of the elections results, and 
> if Jeff is elected, it's up to him to decide if he goes on with the mandate 
> or if he is resigning. This decision should be a very fast one, withou

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Elections 2017 from the CRO point of view

[Marc Vloemans]

Thanks Vasile,

You managed to cut down to the things that really mattered and that we can all 
learn from.
Impressive clear and comprehensive summary. I hope his advice will be weighed 
and incorporated into future policies regarding the Foundation's governance.

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 25 okt. 2017 om 20:00 heeft Vasile Craciunescu  
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Dear Board directors and dear members of OSGeo community,
> 
> This year elections [1] will end in less than 7 hours and it is time for me, 
> as CRO, to make a short assessment and to issue a few recommendations.
> 
> As you all know, during the process we had a few situations that caused 
> tension and discontent to an important number of our members. I will go 
> through the most important ones.
> 
> 1. This year membership process [2] was a very lite one. The basic rule for 
> becoming a charter member was to be nominated by one existing member and to 
> be seconded by at least one other existing member. This lite approach was in 
> line with the new OSGeo Vision and Mission Statement which is focused on 
> being inclusive [3]. However, during the nomination period, many of our 
> members considered the new membership process way too inclusive/lite, causing 
> a diminution in the importance of the charter member position. Another 
> subject that produced criticism was related to the fact that some of the 
> nominations were considered short in content and did not offer enough 
> information on the "positive attributes" [4] that a potential member shall 
> have. Finally, one of the charter member responsibilities [5], "Be aware of 
> and protect against a takeover of OSGeo by single group or viewpoint.", was 
> also a subject of dispute. My recommendations for the future board are to: 
> (a) Change the existing membership process with another one more balanced, 
> that assures both inclusiveness and a consistent weight for the charter 
> member position. Of course, this new mechanism should be discussed with the 
> community; (b) Impose a a very light template for the new nominations. This 
> way, all the nominations will be consistent and comparable. (c) Rephrase 
> responsibility no. 3 of the charter members. The meaning should be kept bu 
> the wording should not sound that martial.
> 
> 2. Jeff was nominated for the board of directors while was serving as co-CRO. 
> Even if the nominee steeped down immediately from the co-CRO position, the 
> access to the c...@osgeo.org was immediately cut-off and he never had access 
> to the electronic voting system, criticism over the potential conflict of 
> interest and elections credibility was raised. My recommendation for the 
> board is to make a specific rule that a nomination/candidacy for/from a 
> person that is acting as CRO or has any other role in the election management 
> is not acceptable.
> 
> 3. During the voting period Jeff sent a request to withdraw from the 
> elections due to the negative feedback. This also started a vivid debate. My 
> recommendation for the board is to create a clear rule stating that an 
> accepted nomination cannot be withdraw after the start of the voting period. 
> Of course, elected persons can always resign for various reasons.
> 
> Regarding the current status of the elections. 311 from a total of 390 
> members voted (80%). Due to the final reminder sent today there are chances 
> to improve the voting participation.
> 
> In my previous message I was proposing to accept Jeff's withdraw request but 
> to continue the elections without any modification to the voting list. After 
> more study on different voting systems and after going through your feedback, 
> my decision and proposal for the board is not to admit the request from Jeff. 
> Such requests are not possible in this kind of elections elsewhere. It is 
> true that we have no specific rule for that in our bylaws. As I mentioned 
> before, this should change. After the release of the elections results, and 
> if Jeff is elected, it's up to him to decide if he goes on with the mandate 
> or if he is resigning. This decision should be a very fast one, without 
> further discussions on the mailing list, with all the possible arguments 
> being already on the table.
> 
> The other option that the board can consider is to entirely restart the board 
> elections cycle (or only the voting part for the remaining 8 nominations). 
> Even if this looks like the most correct way to go, looking on how the 
> elections went before and after Jeff announcement, I can say, without 
> disclosing anything about the final results, that the announcement did not 
> changed the way people were voting. Of course, this is not a fact, is just my 
> conclusion after looking at the trends. After the elections, beside the final 
> numbers, I will also publish the evolution of the votes (every single vote 
> and the timestamp, anonymized of course). Other important reasons for the 
> 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections time

[Anna Petrášová]

It went to my spam for some reason.

Anna

On Oct 19, 2017 2:34 AM, "Michael Smith" <michael.smith.e...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Jachym,

It should be "Invitation to participate in the OSGeo Board of Directors
elections 2017"

Mike

Michael Smith
OSGeo Foundation Treasurer
treasu...@osgeo.org


From: Discuss <discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Jachym Cepicky
<jachym.cepi...@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 3:39 AM
To: <ea...@co.lincoln.or.us>, Vasile Craciunescu <vas...@geo-spatial.org>
Cc: OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections time

Vasile, what is the subject of the mail I should recieve?

THanks

J

st 18. 10. 2017 v 19:15 odesílatel Eli Adam <ea...@co.lincoln.or.us> napsal:

> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 3:42 AM, Vasile Craciunescu
> <vas...@geo-spatial.org> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Based on the feedback received from two of our members (thank you
> Dimitris
> > and Gert-Jan), I did a small change in the voting system. The change is
> on
> > the number of votes than one can cast. The initial system was maximum 5,
> > minimum 5, which does not make sense if you want to abstain on more than
> 5
> > nominations (the rule was inherit from the survey template used last
> year).
> > Also, according to our process rules  "You can cast up to 5 votes, for 5
> > different people." [1]. Now, before making this change, 35 people already
>
> Probably leave it until next year, but [1] is in error; it does not
> need to be for *different* people.  The bylaws
> http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/incorporation/bylaws.html [2]
> provide:
>
> Section 8.9. Voting. Each member (except emeritus members) shall be
> entitled to one vote on each matter submitted to a vote at a meeting
> of the members, except in the case of election of directors or as may
> otherwise be provided in the General Corporation Law of the State of
> Delaware. If a quorum is present, the affirmative vote of a majority
> of the members represented at the meeting and entitled to vote on the
> subject matter shall be the act of the members, unless the vote of a
> greater number is required by the General Corporation Law of the State
> of Delaware or by the Certificate of Incorporation or by these Bylaws.
>
> In connection with the election of Directors, each member (except
> emeritus members) shall be entitled to one vote for each vacancy on
> the Board of Directors to be filled. Members of the Board of Directors
> shall be elected by the affirmative vote of a plurality of the votes
> of the members present in person or proxy, including through remote
> communication, at the meeting and entitled to vote on the election of
> the Board of Directors. Each member entitled to vote in an election of
> Directors may cumulate his or her votes by distributing among one or
> more candidates as many votes as are equal to the number of Director
> vacancies to be filled in the election.
>
> Andy also raised some good ideas.  Perhaps we need to review this further.
>
>
> Best regards, Eli
>
>
> > voted. The votes are anonymized but I can go through Limesurvey setting
> to
> > check if is possible to reset someone votes. Please let me know on
> > c...@osgeo.org if you already voted and you were unhappy with the fact
> that
> > the system forced you to cast 5 votes.
> >
> > Best,
> > Vasile
> > CRO 2017
> >
> > [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2017
>
> [2] http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/incorporation/bylaws.html
>
> >
> >
> > On 10/18/17 11:57 AM, Vasile Craciunescu wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear charter members,
> >>
> >> It's time to vote for our new members of the board of directors. Like in
> >> the previous years, an electronic voting system was setup. In minutes
> from
> >> now, emails with personal voting links will be sent to all our charter
> >> members. If you don't receive your voting link in the next couple of
> hours
> >> please let me know at c...@osgeo.org. Before doing that please also
> check
> >> your "Spam" folder. Sending hundreds of messages at once is not easy
> and it
> >> can be interpreted as spam by some of the filtering systems. Also,
> sometimes
> >> the e-mail addresses change but the charter member contact database is
> not
> >> up to date. I will try to contact all the members with bounced
> invitations
> >> via alternative email/twitter/linkedin/etc to update the email account
> and
> >> to make sure that are able to vote.
> >>

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections status - day 1

[Barry Rowlingson]

I've just dug my voting invite out of the Gmail spam and voted. The discuss
list has been hard to keep up with lately, so I hadn't been aware of the
impending opening of the vote.

The OSGeo calendar http://www.osgeo.org/event/ical is a bit sparse at the
moment. Perhaps we need to track important admin events in a calendar...

Barry



On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 12:09 AM, Vasile Craciunescu  wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> At the end of the first day of voting (I mean, end of the day for me, in
> Europe) we got exactly 100 votes (25.6%). I guess this is not bad. I
> encourage everyone to vote ASAP. After a number of reports, we know that
> an important number of members with Gmail e-mail accounts got the
> invitation in the spam folder. If you are using an Gmail account in your
> relation with OSGeo, please check your spam folder. On Monday I intend
> to do an effort an manually send voting links to all Gmail account that
> did note vote until that moment. You can save a lot of my time if you
> check your spam folder :)
>
> Also, if you change your work place in the last year and you are not
> using the old email address please let me know to update our records.
> Generally is not a good practice to use your work e-mail address for
> your relation with OSGeo, as jobs can change with time. For the future
> elections I will recommend the board to change the new charter members
> nomination procedure and request the person who is nominating a
> candidate to forward the nominee personal email. This will save a lot of
> time for future CRO and will make the election process more smooth.
>
> That's all for the moment. Thank you for your support for OSGeo! New
> updates in the days to follow.
>
> Best,
> Vasile
> CRO 2017
> ___
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> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections time

[Michael Smith]

Jachym,

It should be "Invitation to participate in the OSGeo Board of Directors
elections 2017"

Mike

Michael Smith
OSGeo Foundation Treasurer
treasu...@osgeo.org


From:  Discuss <discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Jachym Cepicky
<jachym.cepi...@gmail.com>
Date:  Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 3:39 AM
To:  <ea...@co.lincoln.or.us>, Vasile Craciunescu <vas...@geo-spatial.org>
Cc:  OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org>
Subject:  Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections time

> Vasile, what is the subject of the mail I should recieve?
> 
> THanks
> 
> J
> 
> st 18. 10. 2017 v 19:15 odesílatel Eli Adam <ea...@co.lincoln.or.us> napsal:
>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 3:42 AM, Vasile Craciunescu
>> <vas...@geo-spatial.org> wrote:
>>> > Dear all,
>>> >
>>> > Based on the feedback received from two of our members (thank you Dimitris
>>> > and Gert-Jan), I did a small change in the voting system. The change is on
>>> > the number of votes than one can cast. The initial system was maximum 5,
>>> > minimum 5, which does not make sense if you want to abstain on more than 5
>>> > nominations (the rule was inherit from the survey template used last
>>> year).
>>> > Also, according to our process rules  "You can cast up to 5 votes, for 5
>>> > different people." [1]. Now, before making this change, 35 people already
>> 
>> Probably leave it until next year, but [1] is in error; it does not
>> need to be for *different* people.  The bylaws
>> http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/incorporation/bylaws.html [2]
>> provide:
>> 
>> Section 8.9. Voting. Each member (except emeritus members) shall be
>> entitled to one vote on each matter submitted to a vote at a meeting
>> of the members, except in the case of election of directors or as may
>> otherwise be provided in the General Corporation Law of the State of
>> Delaware. If a quorum is present, the affirmative vote of a majority
>> of the members represented at the meeting and entitled to vote on the
>> subject matter shall be the act of the members, unless the vote of a
>> greater number is required by the General Corporation Law of the State
>> of Delaware or by the Certificate of Incorporation or by these Bylaws.
>> 
>> In connection with the election of Directors, each member (except
>> emeritus members) shall be entitled to one vote for each vacancy on
>> the Board of Directors to be filled. Members of the Board of Directors
>> shall be elected by the affirmative vote of a plurality of the votes
>> of the members present in person or proxy, including through remote
>> communication, at the meeting and entitled to vote on the election of
>> the Board of Directors. Each member entitled to vote in an election of
>> Directors may cumulate his or her votes by distributing among one or
>> more candidates as many votes as are equal to the number of Director
>> vacancies to be filled in the election.
>> 
>> Andy also raised some good ideas.  Perhaps we need to review this further.
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards, Eli
>> 
>> 
>>> > voted. The votes are anonymized but I can go through Limesurvey setting to
>>> > check if is possible to reset someone votes. Please let me know on
>>> > c...@osgeo.org if you already voted and you were unhappy with the fact 
>>> > that
>>> > the system forced you to cast 5 votes.
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> > Vasile
>>> > CRO 2017
>>> >
>>> > [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2017
>> 
>> [2] http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/incorporation/bylaws.html
>> 
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 10/18/17 11:57 AM, Vasile Craciunescu wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dear charter members,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It's time to vote for our new members of the board of directors. Like in
>>>> >> the previous years, an electronic voting system was setup. In minutes
>>>> from
>>>> >> now, emails with personal voting links will be sent to all our charter
>>>> >> members. If you don't receive your voting link in the next couple of
>>>> hours
>>>> >> please let me know at c...@osgeo.org. Before doing that please also 
>>>> >> check
>>>> >> your "Spam" folder. Sending hundreds of messages at once is not easy and
it
>>>> >> can be interpreted as spam by some of the f

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections time

[Jachym Cepicky]

Vasile, what is the subject of the mail I should recieve?

THanks

J

st 18. 10. 2017 v 19:15 odesílatel Eli Adam  napsal:

> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 3:42 AM, Vasile Craciunescu
>  wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Based on the feedback received from two of our members (thank you
> Dimitris
> > and Gert-Jan), I did a small change in the voting system. The change is
> on
> > the number of votes than one can cast. The initial system was maximum 5,
> > minimum 5, which does not make sense if you want to abstain on more than
> 5
> > nominations (the rule was inherit from the survey template used last
> year).
> > Also, according to our process rules  "You can cast up to 5 votes, for 5
> > different people." [1]. Now, before making this change, 35 people already
>
> Probably leave it until next year, but [1] is in error; it does not
> need to be for *different* people.  The bylaws
> http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/incorporation/bylaws.html [2]
> provide:
>
> Section 8.9. Voting. Each member (except emeritus members) shall be
> entitled to one vote on each matter submitted to a vote at a meeting
> of the members, except in the case of election of directors or as may
> otherwise be provided in the General Corporation Law of the State of
> Delaware. If a quorum is present, the affirmative vote of a majority
> of the members represented at the meeting and entitled to vote on the
> subject matter shall be the act of the members, unless the vote of a
> greater number is required by the General Corporation Law of the State
> of Delaware or by the Certificate of Incorporation or by these Bylaws.
>
> In connection with the election of Directors, each member (except
> emeritus members) shall be entitled to one vote for each vacancy on
> the Board of Directors to be filled. Members of the Board of Directors
> shall be elected by the affirmative vote of a plurality of the votes
> of the members present in person or proxy, including through remote
> communication, at the meeting and entitled to vote on the election of
> the Board of Directors. Each member entitled to vote in an election of
> Directors may cumulate his or her votes by distributing among one or
> more candidates as many votes as are equal to the number of Director
> vacancies to be filled in the election.
>
> Andy also raised some good ideas.  Perhaps we need to review this further.
>
>
> Best regards, Eli
>
>
> > voted. The votes are anonymized but I can go through Limesurvey setting
> to
> > check if is possible to reset someone votes. Please let me know on
> > c...@osgeo.org if you already voted and you were unhappy with the fact
> that
> > the system forced you to cast 5 votes.
> >
> > Best,
> > Vasile
> > CRO 2017
> >
> > [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2017
>
> [2] http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/incorporation/bylaws.html
>
> >
> >
> > On 10/18/17 11:57 AM, Vasile Craciunescu wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear charter members,
> >>
> >> It's time to vote for our new members of the board of directors. Like in
> >> the previous years, an electronic voting system was setup. In minutes
> from
> >> now, emails with personal voting links will be sent to all our charter
> >> members. If you don't receive your voting link in the next couple of
> hours
> >> please let me know at c...@osgeo.org. Before doing that please also
> check
> >> your "Spam" folder. Sending hundreds of messages at once is not easy
> and it
> >> can be interpreted as spam by some of the filtering systems. Also,
> sometimes
> >> the e-mail addresses change but the charter member contact database is
> not
> >> up to date. I will try to contact all the members with bounced
> invitations
> >> via alternative email/twitter/linkedin/etc to update the email account
> and
> >> to make sure that are able to vote.
> >>
> >> Thank you for supporting OSGeo!
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Vasile
> >> CRO 2017
> >> ___
> >> Discuss mailing list
> >> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
> >> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > -
> > Vasile Crăciunescu
> > geo-spatial.org: An elegant place for sharing geoKnowledge & geoData
> > http://www.geo-spatial.org
> > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/geo-spatial
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections status - day 1

[H.S.Rai]

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:39 AM, Vasile Craciunescu
 wrote:
>
> we know that an
> important number of members with Gmail e-mail accounts got the invitation in
> the spam folder. If you are using an Gmail account in your relation with
> OSGeo, please check your spam folder.

Thanks a lot for such a concern and this email. It helped me to trace
"voting" email.

IMO, following information may be useful to search this important email.

Subject: "Invitation to participate in the OSGeo Board of Directors
elections 2017"
From: vas...@geo-spatial.org
In body: "The deadline for this election is 23:59 GMT Tuesday 25th October 2017"

Persons using webbased gmail, may copy and paste following in search
box of gmail:

in:spam from:(vas...@geo-spatial.org) subject:("Invitation to
participate in the OSGeo Board of Directors elections 2017") "The
deadline for this election is 23:59 GMT Tuesday 25th October 2017"

If you wish to search in all other folders (like inbox or osgeo, but
not the spam), use:

from:(vas...@geo-spatial.org) subject:("Invitation to participate in
the OSGeo Board of Directors elections 2017") "The deadline for this
election is 23:59 GMT Tuesday 25th October 2017"

If it found such email in spam, it let you know.

or you may click to following link (if it is not a link, then copy and
paste in browser):

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#advanced-search/from=vasile%40geo-spatial.org=%22Invitation+to+participate+in+the+OSGeo+Board+of+Directors+elections+2017%22=spam=%22The+deadline+for+this+election+is+23%3A59+GMT+Tuesday+25th+October+2017%22=1d=s_sl=s_smb

It will give you pre-filled search box, and you may adjust data to
meet your need, before pressing  "search" button, and work if you have
not logged in with multiple gmail accounts.

> On Monday I intend to do an effort an
> manually send voting links to all Gmail account that did note vote until
> that moment. You can save a lot of my time if you check your spam folder :)

I suggest we all need to vote before that so that Vasile may be saved
from such extra work.

With regards,

-- 
Prof. (Dr.) H.S.Rai
Dean Testing and Consultancy
Guru Nanak Dev Engg. College http://gndec.ac.in/
Ludhiana (Pb) India
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections status - day 1

[Vasile Craciunescu]

Dear all,

At the end of the first day of voting (I mean, end of the day for me, in 
Europe) we got exactly 100 votes (25.6%). I guess this is not bad. I 
encourage everyone to vote ASAP. After a number of reports, we know that 
an important number of members with Gmail e-mail accounts got the 
invitation in the spam folder. If you are using an Gmail account in your 
relation with OSGeo, please check your spam folder. On Monday I intend 
to do an effort an manually send voting links to all Gmail account that 
did note vote until that moment. You can save a lot of my time if you 
check your spam folder :)


Also, if you change your work place in the last year and you are not 
using the old email address please let me know to update our records. 
Generally is not a good practice to use your work e-mail address for 
your relation with OSGeo, as jobs can change with time. For the future 
elections I will recommend the board to change the new charter members 
nomination procedure and request the person who is nominating a 
candidate to forward the nominee personal email. This will save a lot of 
time for future CRO and will make the election process more smooth.


That's all for the moment. Thank you for your support for OSGeo! New 
updates in the days to follow.


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections time

[Eli Adam]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 3:42 AM, Vasile Craciunescu
 wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Based on the feedback received from two of our members (thank you Dimitris
> and Gert-Jan), I did a small change in the voting system. The change is on
> the number of votes than one can cast. The initial system was maximum 5,
> minimum 5, which does not make sense if you want to abstain on more than 5
> nominations (the rule was inherit from the survey template used last year).
> Also, according to our process rules  "You can cast up to 5 votes, for 5
> different people." [1]. Now, before making this change, 35 people already

Probably leave it until next year, but [1] is in error; it does not
need to be for *different* people.  The bylaws
http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/incorporation/bylaws.html [2]
provide:

Section 8.9. Voting. Each member (except emeritus members) shall be
entitled to one vote on each matter submitted to a vote at a meeting
of the members, except in the case of election of directors or as may
otherwise be provided in the General Corporation Law of the State of
Delaware. If a quorum is present, the affirmative vote of a majority
of the members represented at the meeting and entitled to vote on the
subject matter shall be the act of the members, unless the vote of a
greater number is required by the General Corporation Law of the State
of Delaware or by the Certificate of Incorporation or by these Bylaws.

In connection with the election of Directors, each member (except
emeritus members) shall be entitled to one vote for each vacancy on
the Board of Directors to be filled. Members of the Board of Directors
shall be elected by the affirmative vote of a plurality of the votes
of the members present in person or proxy, including through remote
communication, at the meeting and entitled to vote on the election of
the Board of Directors. Each member entitled to vote in an election of
Directors may cumulate his or her votes by distributing among one or
more candidates as many votes as are equal to the number of Director
vacancies to be filled in the election.

Andy also raised some good ideas.  Perhaps we need to review this further.


Best regards, Eli


> voted. The votes are anonymized but I can go through Limesurvey setting to
> check if is possible to reset someone votes. Please let me know on
> c...@osgeo.org if you already voted and you were unhappy with the fact that
> the system forced you to cast 5 votes.
>
> Best,
> Vasile
> CRO 2017
>
> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2017

[2] http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/incorporation/bylaws.html

>
>
> On 10/18/17 11:57 AM, Vasile Craciunescu wrote:
>>
>> Dear charter members,
>>
>> It's time to vote for our new members of the board of directors. Like in
>> the previous years, an electronic voting system was setup. In minutes from
>> now, emails with personal voting links will be sent to all our charter
>> members. If you don't receive your voting link in the next couple of hours
>> please let me know at c...@osgeo.org. Before doing that please also check
>> your "Spam" folder. Sending hundreds of messages at once is not easy and it
>> can be interpreted as spam by some of the filtering systems. Also, sometimes
>> the e-mail addresses change but the charter member contact database is not
>> up to date. I will try to contact all the members with bounced invitations
>> via alternative email/twitter/linkedin/etc to update the email account and
>> to make sure that are able to vote.
>>
>> Thank you for supporting OSGeo!
>>
>> Best,
>> Vasile
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections time

[Vasile Craciunescu]

The change was to lower the minimum number of votes to 1. Sorry for not 
including the information in previous message.


-Vasile
CRO 2017

On 10/18/17 1:42 PM, Vasile Craciunescu wrote:

Dear all,

Based on the feedback received from two of our members (thank you 
Dimitris and Gert-Jan), I did a small change in the voting system. The 
change is on the number of votes than one can cast. The initial system 
was maximum 5, minimum 5, which does not make sense if you want to 
abstain on more than 5 nominations (the rule was inherit from the survey 
template used last year). Also, according to our process rules  "You can 
cast up to 5 votes, for 5 different people." [1]. Now, before making 
this change, 35 people already voted. The votes are anonymized but I can 
go through Limesurvey setting to check if is possible to reset someone 
votes. Please let me know on c...@osgeo.org if you already voted and you 
were unhappy with the fact that the system forced you to cast 5 votes.


Best,
Vasile
CRO 2017

[1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2017

On 10/18/17 11:57 AM, Vasile Craciunescu wrote:

Dear charter members,

It's time to vote for our new members of the board of directors. Like 
in the previous years, an electronic voting system was setup. In 
minutes from now, emails with personal voting links will be sent to 
all our charter members. If you don't receive your voting link in the 
next couple of hours please let me know at c...@osgeo.org. Before doing 
that please also check your "Spam" folder. Sending hundreds of 
messages at once is not easy and it can be interpreted as spam by some 
of the filtering systems. Also, sometimes the e-mail addresses change 
but the charter member contact database is not up to date. I will try 
to contact all the members with bounced invitations via alternative 
email/twitter/linkedin/etc to update the email account and to make 
sure that are able to vote.


Thank you for supporting OSGeo!

Best,
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections time

[Vasile Craciunescu]

Dear all,

Based on the feedback received from two of our members (thank you 
Dimitris and Gert-Jan), I did a small change in the voting system. The 
change is on the number of votes than one can cast. The initial system 
was maximum 5, minimum 5, which does not make sense if you want to 
abstain on more than 5 nominations (the rule was inherit from the survey 
template used last year). Also, according to our process rules  "You can 
cast up to 5 votes, for 5 different people." [1]. Now, before making 
this change, 35 people already voted. The votes are anonymized but I can 
go through Limesurvey setting to check if is possible to reset someone 
votes. Please let me know on c...@osgeo.org if you already voted and you 
were unhappy with the fact that the system forced you to cast 5 votes.


Best,
Vasile
CRO 2017

[1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2017

On 10/18/17 11:57 AM, Vasile Craciunescu wrote:

Dear charter members,

It's time to vote for our new members of the board of directors. Like in 
the previous years, an electronic voting system was setup. In minutes 
from now, emails with personal voting links will be sent to all our 
charter members. If you don't receive your voting link in the next 
couple of hours please let me know at c...@osgeo.org. Before doing that 
please also check your "Spam" folder. Sending hundreds of messages at 
once is not easy and it can be interpreted as spam by some of the 
filtering systems. Also, sometimes the e-mail addresses change but the 
charter member contact database is not up to date. I will try to contact 
all the members with bounced invitations via alternative 
email/twitter/linkedin/etc to update the email account and to make sure 
that are able to vote.


Thank you for supporting OSGeo!

Best,
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections time

[Dirk Frigne]

Vasile,

I think for the new *GDPR*[1] regulation coming into force into Europe
for privacy protection, we will have to propose a system where users can
see and change their data. The directive becomes active May, 25 2018.

This is not only true for OSGeo, but for every organisation working with
people in Europe. Maybe an idea to set up a shared initiative.
I have cross-posted this topic to the eur...@lists.org because I think
there will be more 'specialists' about GDPR in that list...

Maybe this is the next project we should launch after the website is
succesfully rebranded.

Dirk

[1] http://www.eugdpr.org/

On 18-10-17 11:55, Vasile Craciunescu wrote:
> Dear Harish,
> 
> Unfortunately, no, there is no such place. We cannot publicly publish
> the contact details for privacy reasons and we don't have yet a secured
> system for that. However, it's a good point and we should start a
> discussion on the mailing list on this topic. I took the liberty to CC
> the discuss list. For sure, such a system will make CRO's life much more
> simple.
> 
> Best,
> Vasile
> CRO 2017
> 
> 
> On 10/18/17 12:36 PM, Harish wrote:
>> Dear CRO,
>> Is there a place/link/way available where a charter member can see his
>> contact details in centralized database and correct/edit it?
>> Kind Regards,
>> H K Solanki, India
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Vasile Craciunescu
>> > wrote:
>>
>>     Dear charter members,
>>
>>     It's time to vote for our new members of the board of directors.
>>     Like in the previous years, an electronic voting system was setup.
>>     In minutes from now, emails with personal voting links will be sent
>>     to all our charter members. If you don't receive your voting link in
>>     the next couple of hours please let me know at c...@osgeo.org
>>     . Before doing that please also check your
>>     "Spam" folder. Sending hundreds of messages at once is not easy and
>>     it can be interpreted as spam by some of the filtering systems.
>>     Also, sometimes the e-mail addresses change but the charter member
>>     contact database is not up to date. I will try to contact all the
>>     members with bounced invitations via alternative
>>     email/twitter/linkedin/etc to update the email account and to make
>>     sure that are able to vote.
>>
>>     Thank you for supporting OSGeo!
>>
>>     Best,
>>     Vasile
>>     CRO 2017
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>>
>>
>>
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>> Rajendranagar, Hyderabad-500030
>> hksolanki.n...@gov.in 
>> 9214446732
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] board elections: campaign week?

[Jeffrey Johnson]

+1 if felt pretty rushed last year.

On Saturday, September 10, 2016, Jorge Sanz  wrote:

> Hi Gert-Jan thanks for the reminder :-)
>
> Candidates are encouraged to start, as you say, campaigning anytime. I
> already mentioned on the nominations announce that'd be great to see
> candidates sharing their ideas for their term on this list.
>
> I'm open to allow an extra week between nominations and voting, or
> extending the voting for two weeks, if there's positive feedback about this
> idea and our Board does not see any good reason to not delay a week the
> results.
>
> All the best
> --
> Jorge Sanz
>
> Sent from my phone, excuse my brevity.
>
> El 10 sept. 2016 18:43, "Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting OSGeo.nl" <
> gert-...@osgeo.nl >
> escribió:
>
>> Hi all (and especially our elections organizer)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Reading the schedule for the board elections I was wondering if there is
>> a "campaign week" foreseen.
>>
>> By 20 September the final list of nominees (until now: 5 for 4 seats)
>> will be announced, and the elections start immediately after that.
>>
>> I'd rather see a week or so to be used have a lively discussion with the
>> candidates on what we (voters ,candidates, others) regard as important
>> items & actions for the OSGeo foundations in general, and role of the Board
>> in particular.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards from a registered voter,
>>
>>
>>
>> Gert-Jan
>>
>>
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[Jorge Sanz]

Hi Gert-Jan thanks for the reminder :-)

Candidates are encouraged to start, as you say, campaigning anytime. I
already mentioned on the nominations announce that'd be great to see
candidates sharing their ideas for their term on this list.

I'm open to allow an extra week between nominations and voting, or
extending the voting for two weeks, if there's positive feedback about this
idea and our Board does not see any good reason to not delay a week the
results.

All the best
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Sent from my phone, excuse my brevity.

El 10 sept. 2016 18:43, "Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting OSGeo.nl" <
gert-...@osgeo.nl> escribió:

> Hi all (and especially our elections organizer)
>
>
>
>
>
> Reading the schedule for the board elections I was wondering if there is a
> "campaign week" foreseen.
>
> By 20 September the final list of nominees (until now: 5 for 4 seats) will
> be announced, and the elections start immediately after that.
>
> I'd rather see a week or so to be used have a lively discussion with the
> candidates on what we (voters ,candidates, others) regard as important
> items & actions for the OSGeo foundations in general, and role of the Board
> in particular.
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind regards from a registered voter,
>
>
>
> Gert-Jan
>
>
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[Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting OSGeo.nl]

Hi all (and especially our elections organizer)

 

 

Reading the schedule for the board elections I was wondering if there is a
"campaign week" foreseen.

By 20 September the final list of nominees (until now: 5 for 4 seats) will
be announced, and the elections start immediately after that.

I'd rather see a week or so to be used have a lively discussion with the
candidates on what we (voters ,candidates, others) regard as important items
& actions for the OSGeo foundations in general, and role of the Board in
particular.

 

 

Kind regards from a registered voter, 

 

Gert-Jan

 

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections

[Sanghee Shin]

Dear All, 

I’ve filled out my Manifestos there 
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2015_Candidate_Manifestos 
 . 

Regarding other questions, I’ll answer soon. 

All the best, 

신상희
---
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Gaia3D, Inc. - The GeoSpatial Company
http://www.gaia3d.com 

> 2015. 9. 25., 오전 6:17, Ravi Kumar  작성:
> 
>  There are -5- manifestos as of now.
> Pl insert the missing manifestos and give us a good contest.
> 
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Ravi Kumar  > wrote:
> My Dear OSGeo Charter members,
> the board election date 26th Sept is just a few days away.
> 
> Charter members only can vote for the Board and so it is The Most Important 
> Duty.
> 
> If anything, regional representation is of great significance, especially in 
> the Developing Countries. So please give a thought to this ..
> 
> Cheers
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections - vote of confidence for Sanghee

[Cameron Shorter]

OSGeo members,
I think that few people understand the huge time commitment involved in
chairing a FOSS4G conference. I certainly didn't when I volunteered to
do so in 2009.
Sanghee will almost certainly be completely burned out, as if he has
finished a marathon race. However, the fact that he stepped up and
chaired such a successful FOSS4G event - in the Asian region which was a
largely untested area for FOSS4G, speaks to his commitment and capability.

For me, selecting a board involves finding members who make wise
decisions, as well as those who step up and do the work required. For
me, I believe that Sanghee embodies these characteristics, and I'm sure
that once Sanghee has completed a well earned break, he will continue to
be an excellent OSGeo leader.

Warm regards, Cameron

On 24/09/2015 5:35 pm, Sanghee Shin wrote:
> Dear All, 
>
> I’ll try to fill out my Manifestos and answer to several questions as a 
> candidate of Board of Director by the voting deadline. However there would be 
> possibility that I can’t do that. 
>
> Actually I’m too tired and exhausted now to think about something and write 
> down my thought there in English, that’s not my native language. Furthermore 
> I’ve been away from my family, especially from my lovely young daughter, for 
> more than 3 weeks because of FOSS4G Seoul. I’ve just come back from Seoul. 
>
> The reason why I’m sending this email is not for asking your understanding 
> but for informing you that my not responding your request automatically means 
> I’m ignoring you and OSGeo. 
>
> I’m not Robot and for me my health and my family are more important than 
> OSGeo BoD. I’ve got several private emails regarding this and I believe it’s 
> more efficient to express my thoughts/opinions publicly in this way. 
>
> All the best, 
>
> 신상희
> ---
> Shin, Sanghee
> Gaia3D, Inc. - The GeoSpatial Company
> http://www.gaia3d.com 
>
>> 2015. 9. 23., 오후 10:35, Eli Adam  작성:
>>
>> Hi Board Candidates, Charter members and all OSGeo members,
>>
>> Thanks to Steven for prompting to get some content into this election
>> [0] along with the candidates who responded.
>>
>> Also thanks to Darrell [1] and mpg [2] for asking direct questions of
>> the candidates.  Are any candidates going to answer these questions?
>> Does anyone else have substantive questions to ask of the candidates?
>> Are other voters comfortable voting with the limited currently
>> available information?
>>
>> Best regards, Eli
>>
>> [0] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-September/014823.html
>> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-September/014879.html
>> [2] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-September/014881.html
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Ravi Kumar
>>  wrote:
>>> My Dear OSGeo Charter members,
>>> the board election date 26th Sept is just a few days away.
>>>
>>> Charter members only can vote for the Board and so it is The Most Important
>>> Duty.
>>>
>>> If anything, regional representation is of great significance, especially in
>>> the Developing Countries. So please give a thought to this ..
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Ravi Kumar
>>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections - vote of confidence for Sanghee

[Vasile Craciunescu]

+1

I totally agree with Cameron. I also think we should be more careful when we 
are demanding things from people that are already putting a lot of their 
time/energy/health in *doing* things for our community. I only did a rather 
small regional FOSS4G event (FOSS4G-CEE 2013 - 230+ people) but I can really 
understand how difficult this is. Please also don't underestimate the value of 
nominee secondations from the members of our community. Being a global 
organization make it difficult to know every one in person. My feeling is that, 
sometimes, the trust expressed by some other community members for a nominee is 
even more important by what the nominee is commiting/promise before the 
elections. As CRO, I abstain myself until now for any personal thoughts on the 
election process. Please do not get this e-mail as a support message for 
Sanghee. I simply want you to point you to the fact that *all* the nominees 
already did important concrete things for our cause. 

Best,
Vasile

PS Please ignore all the typos and the bad English from my message. Typing late 
from a small phone is not always easy :)

Sent from my mobile device

> On 26 Sep 2015, at 01:43, Cameron Shorter  wrote:
> 
> OSGeo members,
> I think that few people understand the huge time commitment involved in
> chairing a FOSS4G conference. I certainly didn't when I volunteered to
> do so in 2009.
> Sanghee will almost certainly be completely burned out, as if he has
> finished a marathon race. However, the fact that he stepped up and
> chaired such a successful FOSS4G event - in the Asian region which was a
> largely untested area for FOSS4G, speaks to his commitment and capability.
> 
> For me, selecting a board involves finding members who make wise
> decisions, as well as those who step up and do the work required. For
> me, I believe that Sanghee embodies these characteristics, and I'm sure
> that once Sanghee has completed a well earned break, he will continue to
> be an excellent OSGeo leader.
> 
> Warm regards, Cameron
> 
>> On 24/09/2015 5:35 pm, Sanghee Shin wrote:
>> Dear All, 
>> 
>> I’ll try to fill out my Manifestos and answer to several questions as a 
>> candidate of Board of Director by the voting deadline. However there would 
>> be possibility that I can’t do that. 
>> 
>> Actually I’m too tired and exhausted now to think about something and write 
>> down my thought there in English, that’s not my native language. Furthermore 
>> I’ve been away from my family, especially from my lovely young daughter, for 
>> more than 3 weeks because of FOSS4G Seoul. I’ve just come back from Seoul. 
>> 
>> The reason why I’m sending this email is not for asking your understanding 
>> but for informing you that my not responding your request automatically 
>> means I’m ignoring you and OSGeo. 
>> 
>> I’m not Robot and for me my health and my family are more important than 
>> OSGeo BoD. I’ve got several private emails regarding this and I believe it’s 
>> more efficient to express my thoughts/opinions publicly in this way. 
>> 
>> All the best, 
>> 
>> 신상희
>> ---
>> Shin, Sanghee
>> Gaia3D, Inc. - The GeoSpatial Company
>> http://www.gaia3d.com 
>> 
>>> 2015. 9. 23., 오후 10:35, Eli Adam  작성:
>>> 
>>> Hi Board Candidates, Charter members and all OSGeo members,
>>> 
>>> Thanks to Steven for prompting to get some content into this election
>>> [0] along with the candidates who responded.
>>> 
>>> Also thanks to Darrell [1] and mpg [2] for asking direct questions of
>>> the candidates.  Are any candidates going to answer these questions?
>>> Does anyone else have substantive questions to ask of the candidates?
>>> Are other voters comfortable voting with the limited currently
>>> available information?
>>> 
>>> Best regards, Eli
>>> 
>>> [0] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-September/014823.html
>>> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-September/014879.html
>>> [2] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-September/014881.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Ravi Kumar
>>>  wrote:
 My Dear OSGeo Charter members,
 the board election date 26th Sept is just a few days away.
 
 Charter members only can vote for the Board and so it is The Most Important
 Duty.
 
 If anything, regional representation is of great significance, especially 
 in
 the Developing Countries. So please give a thought to this ..
 
 Cheers
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections

[Johan Van de Wauw]

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting
OSGeo.nl  wrote:

> With respect for all the board candidates and their busy agenda, I think for
> the election campaign (manifestos + discussion) this is as good as it gets.
>
>
>
> For 2016, we might try to weave the election campaign into the FOSS4G : have
> candidates 2 weeks before FOSS4G, let the candidates state a manifesto, and
> have a election debate in the main hall in Bonn (which is the former German
> parliament chamber!)

I agree we need more time for a manifesto and discussion on that.
Actually, I proposed such a "campaigning period" also last year [1].

Kind Regards,
Johan
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[Stephen Woodbridge]

+1 on having more time.

On 9/25/2015 1:47 AM, Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting OSGeo.nl wrote:

To avoid confusion: the election date has been confirmed by the CRO to
end on 27 september 12.00 GMT

With respect for all the board candidates and their busy agenda, I think
for the election campaign (manifestos + discussion) this is as good as
it gets.

For 2016, we might try to weave the election campaign into the FOSS4G :
have candidates 2 weeks before FOSS4G, let the candidates state a
manifesto, and have a election debate in the main hall in Bonn (which is
the former German parliament chamber!)

regards,

Gert-Jan

*Van:*discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org
[mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] *Namens *Ravi Kumar
*Verzonden:* vrijdag 25 september 2015 07:17
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*Onderwerp:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections

  There are -5- manifestos as of now.

Pl insert the missing manifestos and give us a good contest.

On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Ravi Kumar
<manarajahmundry2...@gmail.com <mailto:manarajahmundry2...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

My Dear OSGeo Charter members,

the board election date 26th Sept is just a few days away.

Charter members only can vote for the Board and so it is The Most
Important Duty.

If anything, regional representation is of great significance,
especially in the Developing Countries. So please give a thought to this ..

Cheers

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections

[Dirk Frigne]

+1

On 25-09-15 07:47, Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting OSGeo.nl wrote:
> To avoid confusion: the election date has been confirmed by the CRO to
> end on 27 september 12.00 GMT
> 
>  
> 
> With respect for all the board candidates and their busy agenda, I think
> for the election campaign (manifestos + discussion) this is as good as
> it gets.
> 
>  
> 
> For 2016, we might try to weave the election campaign into the FOSS4G :
> have candidates 2 weeks before FOSS4G, let the candidates state a
> manifesto, and have a election debate in the main hall in Bonn (which is
> the former German parliament chamber!)
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> regards,
> 
>  
> 
> Gert-Jan
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> *Van:*discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org
> [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] *Namens *Ravi Kumar
> *Verzonden:* vrijdag 25 september 2015 07:17
> *Aan:* discuss
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections
> 
>  
> 
>  There are -5- manifestos as of now.
> 
> Pl insert the missing manifestos and give us a good contest.
> 
>  
> 
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Ravi Kumar
> <manarajahmundry2...@gmail.com <mailto:manarajahmundry2...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> 
> My Dear OSGeo Charter members,
> 
> the board election date 26th Sept is just a few days away.
> 
>  
> 
> Charter members only can vote for the Board and so it is The Most
> Important Duty.
> 
>  
> 
> If anything, regional representation is of great significance,
> especially in the Developing Countries. So please give a thought to this ..
> 
>  
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Ravi Kumar
> 
>  
> 
> 
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[Dirk Frigne]

Due to the deadlines for this week, I was not able to react in a proper
manner yet. You may expect my response to [1] and [2] tomorrow.

D.

On 23-09-15 23:35, Eli Adam wrote:
> Hi Board Candidates, Charter members and all OSGeo members,
> 
> Thanks to Steven for prompting to get some content into this election
> [0] along with the candidates who responded.
> 
> Also thanks to Darrell [1] and mpg [2] for asking direct questions of
> the candidates.  Are any candidates going to answer these questions?
> Does anyone else have substantive questions to ask of the candidates?
> Are other voters comfortable voting with the limited currently
> available information?
> 
> Best regards, Eli
> 
> [0] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-September/014823.html
> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-September/014879.html
> [2] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-September/014881.html
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Ravi Kumar
>  wrote:
>> My Dear OSGeo Charter members,
>> the board election date 26th Sept is just a few days away.
>>
>> Charter members only can vote for the Board and so it is The Most Important
>> Duty.
>>
>> If anything, regional representation is of great significance, especially in
>> the Developing Countries. So please give a thought to this ..
>>
>> Cheers
>> Ravi Kumar
>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections

[Sanghee Shin]

Dear All, 

I’ll try to fill out my Manifestos and answer to several questions as a 
candidate of Board of Director by the voting deadline. However there would be 
possibility that I can’t do that. 

Actually I’m too tired and exhausted now to think about something and write 
down my thought there in English, that’s not my native language. Furthermore 
I’ve been away from my family, especially from my lovely young daughter, for 
more than 3 weeks because of FOSS4G Seoul. I’ve just come back from Seoul. 

The reason why I’m sending this email is not for asking your understanding but 
for informing you that my not responding your request automatically means I’m 
ignoring you and OSGeo. 

I’m not Robot and for me my health and my family are more important than OSGeo 
BoD. I’ve got several private emails regarding this and I believe it’s more 
efficient to express my thoughts/opinions publicly in this way. 

All the best, 

신상희
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> 2015. 9. 23., 오후 10:35, Eli Adam  작성:
> 
> Hi Board Candidates, Charter members and all OSGeo members,
> 
> Thanks to Steven for prompting to get some content into this election
> [0] along with the candidates who responded.
> 
> Also thanks to Darrell [1] and mpg [2] for asking direct questions of
> the candidates.  Are any candidates going to answer these questions?
> Does anyone else have substantive questions to ask of the candidates?
> Are other voters comfortable voting with the limited currently
> available information?
> 
> Best regards, Eli
> 
> [0] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-September/014823.html
> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-September/014879.html
> [2] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-September/014881.html
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Ravi Kumar
>  wrote:
>> My Dear OSGeo Charter members,
>> the board election date 26th Sept is just a few days away.
>> 
>> Charter members only can vote for the Board and so it is The Most Important
>> Duty.
>> 
>> If anything, regional representation is of great significance, especially in
>> the Developing Countries. So please give a thought to this ..
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Ravi Kumar
>> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections

[Ravi Kumar]

 There are -5- manifestos as of now.
Pl insert the missing manifestos and give us a good contest.

On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Ravi Kumar 
wrote:

> My Dear OSGeo Charter members,
> the board election date 26th Sept is just a few days away.
>
> Charter members only can vote for the Board and so it is The Most
> Important Duty.
>
> If anything, regional representation is of great significance, especially
> in the Developing Countries. So please give a thought to this ..
>
> Cheers
> Ravi Kumar
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections

[Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting OSGeo.nl]

To avoid confusion: the election date has been confirmed by the CRO to end on 
27 september 12.00 GMT

 

With respect for all the board candidates and their busy agenda, I think for 
the election campaign (manifestos + discussion) this is as good as it gets. 

 

For 2016, we might try to weave the election campaign into the FOSS4G : have 
candidates 2 weeks before FOSS4G, let the candidates state a manifesto, and 
have a election debate in the main hall in Bonn (which is the former German 
parliament chamber!)

 

 

regards, 

 

Gert-Jan

 

 

Van: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] 
Namens Ravi Kumar
Verzonden: vrijdag 25 september 2015 07:17
Aan: discuss
Onderwerp: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections

 

 There are -5- manifestos as of now.

Pl insert the missing manifestos and give us a good contest.

 

On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Ravi Kumar <manarajahmundry2...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

My Dear OSGeo Charter members,

the board election date 26th Sept is just a few days away.

 

Charter members only can vote for the Board and so it is The Most Important 
Duty.

 

If anything, regional representation is of great significance, especially in 
the Developing Countries. So please give a thought to this ..

 

Cheers

Ravi Kumar

 

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections

[Eli Adam]

Hi Board Candidates, Charter members and all OSGeo members,

Thanks to Steven for prompting to get some content into this election
[0] along with the candidates who responded.

Also thanks to Darrell [1] and mpg [2] for asking direct questions of
the candidates.  Are any candidates going to answer these questions?
Does anyone else have substantive questions to ask of the candidates?
Are other voters comfortable voting with the limited currently
available information?

Best regards, Eli

[0] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-September/014823.html
[1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-September/014879.html
[2] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-September/014881.html


On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Ravi Kumar
 wrote:
> My Dear OSGeo Charter members,
> the board election date 26th Sept is just a few days away.
>
> Charter members only can vote for the Board and so it is The Most Important
> Duty.
>
> If anything, regional representation is of great significance, especially in
> the Developing Countries. So please give a thought to this ..
>
> Cheers
> Ravi Kumar
>
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[Ravi Kumar]

My Dear OSGeo Charter members,
the board election date 26th Sept is just a few days away.

Charter members only can vote for the Board and so it is The Most Important
Duty.

If anything, regional representation is of great significance, especially
in the Developing Countries. So please give a thought to this ..

Cheers
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Elections - request for manifestos

[Bart van den Eijnden]

Please can all candidates do this soon?

The survey has started already and it’s hard to vote without this info IMHO.

Thanks Dirk for putting the info there already.

Best regards,
Bart

> On 17 Sep 2015, at 10:31, Steven Feldman  wrote:
> 
> I would like to be able to vote on the substance of candidates rather than 
> just voting for names that I recognise
> 
> I would like to ask the candidates for the Board Elections to share some 
> information with the Charter Members so that we can understand:
> 
> Who you are
> What you have done within the community in the past 
> What your interests are in terms of the board
> Any things that you would like to change or introduce
> What role you would wish to fulfil on the board (if any)
> 
> Ideally this should all be on a wiki page so that the electorate can read and 
> compare each candidate’s manifesto with ease, I have created a stub page at 
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2015_Candidate_Manifestos 
>  which you 
> could use.
> 
> Thanks
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Elections - request for manifestos

[Vasile Craciunescu]

Excellent initiative, Steven. Thank you! I had something similar on my 
todo list but I got overwhelm by the FOSS4G activities here in Seoul.


Once again, thank you. I also invite all the candidates to take a little 
bit of time and create an entry on the wiki or simply send an e-mail to 
the mailing list and I will edit the wiki.


Best,
Vasile
CRO 2015

On 9/17/15 5:31 PM, Steven Feldman wrote:

I would like to be able to vote on the substance of candidates rather
than just voting for names that I recognise

I would like to ask the candidates for the Board Elections to share some
information with the Charter Members so that we can understand:

Who you are
What you have done within the community in the past
What your interests are in terms of the board
Any things that you would like to change or introduce
What role you would wish to fulfil on the board (if any)

Ideally this should all be on a wiki page so that the electorate can
read and compare each candidate’s manifesto with ease, I have created a
stub page at
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2015_Candidate_Manifestos which you
could use.

Thanks
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Elections - request for manifestos

[Jorge Sanz]

+1

That's a great idea Steven, with the membership growing and being more
diverse, we can't expect that all candidates are well known by everyone so
a brief mail answering your questions (and an update on the wiki) would be
really cool.

Greetings from the OSGeo Park at Intergeo15 :-)

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Sent from my phone, excuse my brevity.
El 17/9/2015 10:31, "Steven Feldman"  escribió:

> I would like to be able to vote on the substance of candidates rather than
> just voting for names that I recognise
>
> I would like to ask the candidates for the Board Elections to share some
> information with the Charter Members so that we can understand:
>
> Who you are
> What you have done within the community in the past
> What your interests are in terms of the board
> Any things that you would like to change or introduce
> What role you would wish to fulfil on the board (if any)
>
> Ideally this should all be on a wiki page so that the electorate can read
> and compare each candidate’s manifesto with ease, I have created a stub
> page at http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2015_Candidate_Manifestos which
> you could use.
>
> Thanks
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Board Elections 2012

[Arnulf Christl]

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Dear Charter Members,
we are approaching the end of the 2012 elections [0]. The Board
nomination period has ended and all nominees listed on [1] have
confirmed that they are happy to stand for election.

Please take your time to read through the nomination, the acceptance
and thoughts from each candidate and then proceed to vote for 5
different candidates by adding them one per line to an email to be
sent to c...@osgeo.org.

Voting closes at 23:59 (your timezone) 12-August-2012!

Please caefully follow the instructions given on the Wiki [2] in order
to be able to submit a valid email and MAKE SURE TO SEND IT TO
c...@osgeo.org ONLY. Otherwise your vote may become public or just
disappear somewhere. You will receive a confirmation of your
successful vote. If you do not receive a confirmation within 24h of
submitting your mail please contact c...@osgeo.org

Thank your for taking on this responsibility,
Your CROs
(Arnulf Christl  Michael Gerlek)

[0] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2012
[1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Member_Nominations_2012
[2]
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2012#Vote_for_new_Board_Members_-_2012-08-03_-_2012-08-12

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections Voting

[Massimiliano Cannata]

This is true we should avoid a small group of people push one person
into the board..

But.. is also true that we should guarantee a good balance between
different ideas and interests.. this is why in major democracies (like the
US) also other factors are considered in elections: like geographical
representation and weighted balance among different representative of ideas
and/or interests...

For example: EU needs (INSPIRE) vs NA needs or academic needs
vs commercial needs...

I know that is already difficult to find out 5 members with time
and willing to be in the board but maybe we should give a try to increase
the board representativeness...

As a concluding note I want to underline that I do not have anything
against any of the board members, most of whom I know personally and
consider my friends.. this is just my contribution to the discussion...


Regards,

Maxi



On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Mateusz Loskot mate...@loskot.net wrote:

 On 25 July 2012 21:23, Howard Butler hobu@gmail.com wrote:
  On 2012/07/24, at 13:48, Ravi Kumar wrote:
 
  Please consider changing the rule that only One vote for one candidate
 (by the charter member) in the Board election.
 
  Advantages:
  The only way to show that you prefer a candidate is by voting to him /
 her more than once.
 
  Disadvantages:
  [...]
  One member, one candidate, one vote.

 Amen.

 There is no need for anyone to show that she shows that she shows,
 that she prefers one candidate over another.

 If anyone feels a need to double or even triple expression of her feelings,
 feel free send the candidate flowers or a box of chocolate, I suppose.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections Voting

[Duarte Carreira]

For what it's worth I really, really, agree with Howard. When things go 
smoothly it's irrelevant. But it's a huge mess  when they don't... Better safe 
than sorry...

Best,
Duarte

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De: Howard Butler [mailto:hobu@gmail.com] 
Enviada: quarta-feira, 25 de Julho de 2012 21:24
Para: osgeo-discuss
Assunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections Voting


 On 2012/07/24, at 13:48, Ravi Kumar wrote:
 
 Please consider changing the rule that only One vote for one candidate (by 
 the charter member) in the Board election.
 
 Advantages:
 The only way to show that you prefer a candidate is by voting to him / her 
 more than once.

Disadvantages:

It allows a small, concentrated, and coordinated group of people to ensure that 
their one or two preferred candidates make it onto the board without otherwise 
having broad support of the electorate. After one or two election cycles, the 
board could be replaced with these selected board members through this 
effort.  Giving a member the ability to give 5 votes to one individual 
essentially gives them 5x the voting power for an individual candidate, and 
considering the fact that generally speaking the majority of the electorate 
doesn't stack their votes, differentially provides them even more voting power. 
 A statistical analysis and simulation of how this weighting works is left to 
the reader.

One member, one candidate, one vote. 

What is needs of the electorate or board are being served by having our 
election procedure be something otherwise?

Howard

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[Toru Mori (森 亮)]

I second to Ravi's proposal.

Toru Mori
OSGeo Japan Chapter

On 2012/07/24, at 13:48, Ravi Kumar wrote:

 Please consider changing the rule that only One vote for one candidate (by 
 the charter member) in the Board election.
 
 Advantages:
 The only way to show that you prefer a candidate is by voting to him / her 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections Voting

[Dimitris Kotzinos]

Hi all,

I do agree with Arnulf on this: changing the rules in the middle of an 
election and not considering thoroughly the implications of the change 
is probably problematic.
I think we need first to search a bit deeper on what exactly this means, 
e.g. do we prefer someone on the board that is voted by 8 people or 
someone strongly supported by one person with 8 votes? Of course this is 
an extreme case scenario but demonstrates in my view that at least some 
more consideration is needed ...
(on the other hand, this does not imply in any way that the proposal is 
somewhat wrong or something like that - it is more a matter of 
preference of the community).


Best regards,

Dimitris

P.S.: I think that it is probably time to remove the FOSS4G 2012 banner 
from the home page of OSGeo and maybe substitute it with the 2013 event?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections Voting

[Massimiliano Cannata]

HI,
my 2 cents to the discussion...

I like the Stefano idea [1] where people can assign preferences and even
understanding
possible practical issues on changing the rules on the fly, i believe
that if the proposal
of changing the rules meet a large consensum, it may worth to be applied.

Maxi

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schulze_method

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Charles Schweik
cschw...@pubpol.umass.eduwrote:

 On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Dimitris Kotzinos kotz...@csd.uoc.gr
 wrote:

  I think we need first to search a bit deeper on what exactly this means,
  e.g. do we prefer someone on the board that is voted by 8 people or
 someone
  strongly supported by one person with 8 votes? Of course this is an
 extreme
  case scenario but demonstrates in my view that at least some more
  consideration is needed ...

 My wife is an academic who studies and teaches about nonprofit
 management and governance issues.
 I'm certain there is some literature out there on various approaches
 to board election voting rules. I'll see if I can find any that
 might be informative.

 Charlie Schweik

 Associate Professor
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections Voting

[Howard Butler]

 On 2012/07/24, at 13:48, Ravi Kumar wrote:
 
 Please consider changing the rule that only One vote for one candidate (by 
 the charter member) in the Board election.
 
 Advantages:
 The only way to show that you prefer a candidate is by voting to him / her 
 more than once.

Disadvantages:

It allows a small, concentrated, and coordinated group of people to ensure that 
their one or two preferred candidates make it onto the board without otherwise 
having broad support of the electorate. After one or two election cycles, the 
board could be replaced with these selected board members through this 
effort.  Giving a member the ability to give 5 votes to one individual 
essentially gives them 5x the voting power for an individual candidate, and 
considering the fact that generally speaking the majority of the electorate 
doesn't stack their votes, differentially provides them even more voting power. 
 A statistical analysis and simulation of how this weighting works is left to 
the reader.

One member, one candidate, one vote. 

What is needs of the electorate or board are being served by having our 
election procedure be something otherwise?

Howard

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections Voting

[Mateusz Loskot]

On 25 July 2012 21:23, Howard Butler hobu@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2012/07/24, at 13:48, Ravi Kumar wrote:

 Please consider changing the rule that only One vote for one candidate (by 
 the charter member) in the Board election.

 Advantages:
 The only way to show that you prefer a candidate is by voting to him / her 
 more than once.

 Disadvantages:
 [...]
 One member, one candidate, one vote.

Amen.

There is no need for anyone to show that she shows that she shows,
that she prefers one candidate over another.

If anyone feels a need to double or even triple expression of her feelings,
feel free send the candidate flowers or a box of chocolate, I suppose.

Best regards,
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Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections Voting

[Ravi Kumar]

Please consider changing the rule that only One vote for one candidate (by the 
charter member) in the Board election.

Advantages:
The only way to show that you prefer a candidate is by voting to him / her more 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections Voting

[Alex Mandel]

On 07/23/2012 09:48 PM, Ravi Kumar wrote:
 Please consider changing the rule that only One vote for one candidate (by 
 the charter member) in the Board election.
 
 Advantages:
 The only way to show that you prefer a candidate is by voting to him / her 
 more than once.
 

Or use a choice voting system, which means your votes are ranked by
preference. There are various ways to then calculate the winners. But
this method does require a certain number of votes to work.

http://daviswiki.org/choice_voting

Thanks,
Alex

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections Voting

[Venkatesh Raghavan]

On 2012/07/24 13:48, Ravi Kumar wrote:

Please consider changing the rule that only One vote for one candidate (by the 
charter member) in the Board election.

Advantages:
The only way to show that you prefer a candidate is by voting to him / her more 
than once.

I strongly support the suggestion made by ex-board member, Ravi Kumar.

Best

Venka
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