Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-22 Thread bluegaspode
Proxying through SBS always works, as SlimProto is then handled through the SBS, MySB.com is only serving additional content like Radio stations and Apps. The streams always come from the content providers so are not routed through MySB.com. And when you see your iPad on MySB.com then it is

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-22 Thread Gblenn
How will (or do already) things work with LMS 7.7 using DLNA then?? For example, I am considering one of Yamaha or Pioneers new AV Receivers which both are DLNA capable. I would like to continue to be able to use SBS, sorry LMS, with iPeng (or similar, or my Squeezecontroller for that matter)

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-22 Thread pippin
Gblenn;664821 Wrote: From a speculation standpoint I guess there are two ways this could happen; Either that LMS can serve DLNA devices still being controlled by traditional controllers, including my Squeezecontroller. Or that iPeng and others become DLNA control points as well... The

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-22 Thread Gblenn
pippin;664823 Wrote: The problem here is that you can't really control DLNA devices with a phone or something similar. That's why everybody who has good remote control develops their own thing. DLNA needs the control point to be either on the server or on the renderer, in any case it

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-22 Thread pippin
Gblenn;664838 Wrote: And by the way, DLNA does not require the controller to be either in the server or the renderer, it can be a third device... In fact in the case of a Phone or Tablet, that is a very likely use. I assume you are aware of how things work on e.g. PlugPlayer where it

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-22 Thread Gblenn
By the way I should have mentioned that I have actually started to test LMS 7.7 on a separate PC. I have only spent a few minutes doing some very basic and initial testing with just a few folders of music. But using e.g. PlugPlayer or a similar Controller on an Android device I can see the LMS

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-22 Thread bluegaspode
I think your 'hybrid' controller is already PlugPlayer together with LMS. When you connect one of your Squeezeboxes to LMS server, they are available via PlugPlayer as well - along your with other devices. Be aware of some limitations though: as Pippin already mentioned, DLNA has a somewhat

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-22 Thread Gblenn
pippin;664840 Wrote: You could but then somebody would have to... well, let's see... I kind of hope so... ;) pippin;664840 Wrote: But that would cause some other issues. Let's face it: DLNA is a nice standard for a content server, for control you ned something else. Possibly, but that

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-21 Thread gruntwolla
garym;664574 Wrote: not really sure. I've bought a lot of stuff directly from logitech (most of my SB players) and they occasionally send me an email with a discount percentage. Sometimes folks get the special codes and even post them here at this forum. Don't really know. p.s. This got

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-21 Thread castalla
Seems about right for the current UK prices! Forget about exchange rates - they are are all artificially manipulated by central banks, speculators, etc. -- castalla 1 Touch - cheap unbranded optical cable - old Sony Microsystem - Acoustics Q10 speakers - 2 duff ears - purrfekt!

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-21 Thread erland
bluegaspode;664417 Wrote: Logitech does not allow third party players to be connected to MySb.com, so I guess you won't find something that satisfies this part of your requirements. Doesn't SqueezePad and SqueezePlayer work with MySb.com ? But I guess you are just saying that Logitech

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-21 Thread pippin
They accept it due to the low numbers so far. For iPeng they did already state that they would not allow it. Their contracts with their content partners would not allow letting anybody on to MySB. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-21 Thread bluegaspode
They don't accept it, they block it even today for new registering players. -- bluegaspode Did you know: *'SqueezePlayer' (www.squeezeplayer.com)* will stream all your music to your Android device. Take your music everywhere! Remote Control + Streaming to your iPad? *'Squeezebox + iPad =

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-21 Thread pippin
bluegaspode;664757 Wrote: They don't accept it, they block it even today for new registering players. Ah. OK. Good to know. I recently wondered why I could no longer register a device with a special iPeng version on test.mysb for testing. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-21 Thread erland
pippin/bluegaspode: - Does this mean that new users won't be able to use your apps to control their Squeezeboxes connected to mysb.com or does it only affects streaming music through mysb.com ? I can understand if Logitech doesn't want to allow streaming as it competes with their own hardware

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-21 Thread bluegaspode
Only applies to streaming/slimproto -- bluegaspode Did you know: *'SqueezePlayer' (www.squeezeplayer.com)* will stream all your music to your Android device. Take your music everywhere! Remote Control + Streaming to your iPad? *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com)* Want to

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-21 Thread Mnyb
just tried 3rd party controlling is working just fine. I can understand that they don't want freeloaders on mysb.com it sometimes has a hard time to keep up with all the registred real squeezebox players. I can also undertand that thier contracts with some app supliers is tied to actual

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-21 Thread Mnyb
Another observation the iPad is considered a player of it's own not tied to a specific software , so I can juggle it between iPeng and SqueezePlay both SBS/LMS and mysb.com sees it as one player. And I have one Mikael's iPad on mysb.com ? -- Mnyb

[slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-20 Thread carled
Hi all New here and trying to help a friend out. The 3rd party hardware section here seems all about servers. That may come in handy (for me!) with time, but I'm looking at alternatives for a player. Ideally it would have digital/optical out, but 3.5mm out is fine if not. Doesn't have to be

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-20 Thread bluegaspode
Logitech does not allow third party players to be connected to MySb.com, so I guess you won't find something that satisfies this part of your requirements. Other than that you can look out for cheap hardware to run a third party player on it. Can be SheevaPlug with USB soundcard or any cheap

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-20 Thread carled
ok, cool thanks. That's useful to know. It seems to me that his best/cheapest/simplest combination option would be the squeezebox radio with the 3.5mm out connected to his A/V amp. If he wants to double his cost he can go for the touch with the optical/digital out. So, for example, if he got a

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-20 Thread bluegaspode
carled;664420 Wrote: So, for example, if he got a hacked joggler, it would speak to squeezebox server on his pc/a nas device but it would not speak to the mysqueezebox.com service? yes -- bluegaspode Did you know: *'SqueezePlayer' (www.squeezeplayer.com)* will stream all your music to

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-20 Thread toby10
Touch is on sale right now for $209 so it's only about $70 difference to a Radio. http://www.logitech.com/en-us/speakers-audio/wireless-music-systems/devices/5745 -- toby10 toby10's Profile:

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-20 Thread carled
toby10;664426 Wrote: Touch is on sale right now for $209 so it's only about $70 difference to a Radio. http://www.logitech.com/en-us/speakers-audio/wireless-music-systems/devices/5745 I'm in the uk... import taxes would probably kill that deal! -- carled

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-20 Thread Mnyb
carled;664420 Wrote: ok, cool thanks. That's useful to know. It seems to me that his best/cheapest/simplest combination option would be the squeezebox radio with the 3.5mm out connected to his A/V amp. If he wants to double his cost he can go for the touch with the optical/digital out.

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-20 Thread arztde
carled;664427 Wrote: I'm in the uk... import taxes would probably kill that deal! I got a joggler from UK and i installed Squeezeplay on it what works pretty cool. For me this was much more usefull than a touch or a radio. The hacking is pretty easy to do. Just google a little arround for O2

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-20 Thread garym
carled;664427 Wrote: I'm in the uk... import taxes would probably kill that deal! i think they are on sale WITHIN the UK as well -- garym System 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) System 2: Win7(64) laptop

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-20 Thread carled
garym;664449 Wrote: i think they are on sale WITHIN the UK as well Hmm. Not at Logitech they're not at £259! http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/speakers-audio/wireless-music-systems/devices/5745 -- carled carled's Profile:

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-20 Thread garym
carled;664516 Wrote: Hmm. Not at Logitech they're not at £259! http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/speakers-audio/wireless-music-systems/devices/5745 i think they were on sale at 209euros at one point. they often go on sale...or logitech has 50% or 40%, etc. coupon off periods... -- garym

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-20 Thread gruntwolla
garym;664526 Wrote: i think they were on sale at 209euros at one point. they often go on sale...or logitech has 50% or 40%, etc. coupon off periods... The diference in price on electrical goods between the UK and USA has long been a source of irritation over here. As a matter of interest,

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-20 Thread garym
gruntwolla;664570 Wrote: The diference in price on electrical goods between the UK and USA has long been a source of irritation over here. As a matter of interest, when it comes to these 40/50% coupons, how does one become more noticeable to Logitech. I will probably buy a touch at some

Re: [slim] 3rd party PLAYER hardware

2011-10-20 Thread pski
carled;664415 Wrote: Hi all New here and trying to help a friend out. The 3rd party hardware section here seems all about servers. That may come in handy (for me!) with time, but I'm looking at alternatives for a player. Ideally it would have digital/optical out, but 3.5mm out is fine