Hi there,
I've just listed my Classic on eBay:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133978177346.
Happy to take offers from this forum via PM.
Jon
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slartibartfast wrote:
> Have you ever known any tech support to be good? They generally aren't
> remotely technical and follow a script. The only tech support worth the
> name is from engineers who know the products inside out.
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
Once in a while I will
ftlight wrote:
> Yes, unfortunately there are actually very few devices that the hub can
> control by either IP or Bluetooth. This page lists them:
> https://atlantic-cable.com/Ephemera/Broadsides/index.htm
>
> However, if you can work with IR, it's a very flexible system. I have
> one in my
ftlight wrote:
> Yes, unfortunately there are actually very few devices that the hub can
> control by either IP or Bluetooth. This page lists them:
> https://atlantic-cable.com/Ephemera/Broadsides/index.htm
>
> However, if you can work with IR, it's a very flexible system. I have
> one in my
fletch wrote:
>
>
> Support thought they remote was broken and told me to send it back.
>
> The remotes are great once setup.. just the setup software and their
> tech support is very poor.
>
Have you ever known any tech support to be good? They generally aren't
remotely technical and
NFLnut wrote:
> I bought a hub/remote system from Best Buy a few weeks ago when I heard
> the news. Had been on the fence for a couple of years. So far, I am not
> impressed (but I may just not understand yet how the system works) as
> very LITTLE of what I need to control is centralized where
I also bought a backup from Best buy. I had the "lower end" smart model
on both my main tv and bedroom tv.
That one was no longer available new so I went the other route and went
with high end model, The Elite.
It's nice but it's overkill and I ran into some bugs with the setup
software that
I bought a hub/remote system from Best Buy a few weeks ago when I heard
the news. Had been on the fence for a couple of years. So far, I am not
impressed (but I may just not understand yet how the system works) as
very LITTLE of what I need to control is centralized where I can run IR
extenders
Logitech...where innovative products go to die. After Logitech bought
the Canadian company Harmony, they screwed up the programming software
making the UI harder to use and constant USB cable problems. I would
have to provide tech support to my brother and friend because it was so
hard to
I got my remote and dont know why I didn't do it years ago. Makes life
simpler.
I see Walmart Canada sells them in their website, or rather a website
merchant does. About 50% premium over the list price. Says it isn't in
manufacturer's packaging to save shipping space. Allegedly "new
RonM wrote:
> I'd been meaning to get a Harmony remote for some time, especially as
> the power button on the remote for my older Sony Receiver has been
> giving out and would cost a fair bit to get a dedicated replacement. So
> was pissed-off when I found they were discontinuing.
>
> I did a
The US closeout site Woot (a division of Amazon) has a few Harmony
remotes listed today.
https://electronics.woot.com/plus/logitech-remotes
Unfortunately, I think they only sell to the "lower 48" US states.
LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players,
occasionally with
RonM wrote:
> I'd been meaning to get a Harmony remote for some time, especially as
> the power button on the remote for my older Sony Receiver has been
> giving out and would cost a fair bit to get a dedicated replacement. So
> was pissed-off when I found they were discontinuing.
>
> I did a
I'd been meaning to get a Harmony remote for some time, especially as
the power button on the remote for my older Sony Receiver has been
giving out and would cost a fair bit to get a dedicated replacement. So
was pissed-off when I found they were discontinuing.
I did a search locally (Toronto
gordonb3 wrote:
> Never really understood why LMS requires me to connect to a Logitech
> account as well
That can be disabled by you. Although if a lot of people did it then
Logitech may well decide that there is no longer a justification for
keeping mysqueezebox.com running and so all of the
Pretty fond of the Hub I got running for controlling TV, set-top box and
Dune media player. I am somewhat annoyed though about the fact that it
requires internet access to allow LAN access through the phone app and
home automation services. Never really understood why LMS requires me to
connect
Just read this in Wired:
How the Smart Remote Lost Its Way
https://www.wired.com/story/logitech-harmony-smart-remote-lost-its-way
It mentions a guy that repairs Harmony Remotes:
https://www.harmonyremoterepair.com/#/
Tony
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danco wrote:
> Yes, I think you are right, and the One For All may have been a mistake
> for the reasons you give. Unfortunately it came in one of those plastic
> containers that have to be destroyed to get into them, so I can't return
> it.
>
> But it only cost a few pounds, so no great
Come on everybody-it could be a lot worse. Logitech could be dropping
other things if you catch my drift. I don't want to say it out loud.
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Franck@ wrote:
> I continue to be very sad after Logitech's decision to stop selling the
> Harmony remote.
>
> I quickly looked at the One For All site, but I'm afraid it might not be
> a real alternative. Unless I'm mistaken, there are no remote controls
> with screens.
>
> Nothing better
I continue to be very sad after Logitech's decision to stop selling the
Harmony remote.
I quickly looked at the One For All site, but I'm afraid it might not be
a real alternative. Unless I'm mistaken, there are no remote controls
with screens.
Nothing better than the screen to make the use
Tony T wrote:
> Check other retailers. I got my backup at Best Buy in the US
Yea I canceled my used Amazon backup when I saw ebay had new ones from
BB.
They don't have my exact model so got to decide between the companion
and elite
florca wrote:
> I was a bit surprised by this, as my OFA remotes have all included
> factory codes for Humax PVRs. I think the answer is that for some reason
> they now categorise them under "Sat / DVB-T", and a quick look on their
> web support code-search pages ( 'HERE'
>
danco wrote:
> At that price it is worth getting and just seeing how it works. I have
> just got one. I see that the devices it has codes for include VCR but
> not a PVR (mine is a Humax Fox T2). But I am sure the JP1 forums will
> give instructions for those.
I was a bit surprised by this, as
florca wrote:
> Maybe a lone dissenting voice, but I never really got on with my Harmony
> remote. After struggling to get it working in the way I wanted I ended
> up buying some One-for-All (UIC) remotes which can be very flexibly
> re-programmed / hacked using a home made adaptor and "JP1"
i have a Harmony 1000 on the shelf. Didn't know what to do with it as my
setup changed to iphone/ipad
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RonM wrote:
> I don't have a harmony remote but the eulogies tell me I should get one.
> The only ones I can on Amazon are used/vg, is it worthwhile to take the
> risk? Sold by a third party, but actually shipped by Amazon.
>
> R.
Check other retailers. I got my backup at Best Buy in the US
I don't have a harmony remote but the eulogies tell me I should get one.
The only ones I can on Amazon are used/vg, is it worthwhile to take the
risk? Sold by a third party, but actually shipped by Amazon.
R.
LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3)
Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo
I wonder how long they'll continue to sink those costs with no revenue
from sales (however small that was).
Bad press/image doesn't come for free either!...
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tw99 wrote:
> I wonder how long they'll continue to sink those costs with no revenue
> from sales (however small that was).
It's been seven years since they discontinued the Smart Radio, and here
we all are still.
tw99 wrote:
> I wonder how long they'll continue to sink those costs with no revenue
> from sales (however small that was).
Squeezeserver is still up. This Forum is still up. I suspect the
Harmony server will be up for a long time (even if they stop updating
the database)
Tony
SBTouch
Tony T wrote:
> Logitech did say that while no new remotes will be made, that they will
> keep the system going, including continuing to update the database.
I wonder how long they'll continue to sink those costs with no revenue
from sales (however small that was).
TomAmes wrote:
> ...But this time I fear there is no community like all the guys around
> here who have kept the Squeezebox system going.
>
Logitech did say that while no new remotes will be made, that they will
keep the system going, including continuing to update the database.
Tony
Apesbrain wrote:
> It's a good product. It fills a specific need. No one else makes a
> worthy substitute. Sound familiar?
>
> Anyway, I bought a backup this morning.
Does it ever sound familiar!
jfo wrote:
> I still use my Harmony 880 which I bought about 18 years ago. They were
> a
Where Harmony really excels for us, is when we have things that don't
really talk to each other. For instance, we have a Harmony Hub control
TV, Bluray and a Mu-so. The Mu-so is connected to the TV for sound.
Because our TV doesn't communicate well over HDMI ARC, we have Harmony
control the
I also have two Harmony units, but continue to prefer the JP1 remotes,
the 8820 cited above was/is really the most perfect remote in the hand,
almost as good as the TIVO remotes. But 1000% more useful. The RCA
RCRP05BR and the Inteset 4 in 1 are also excellent. I even have a few
URC-6131s,
florca wrote:
> I never really got on with my Harmony remote. After struggling to get it
> working in the way I wanted I ended up buying some One-for-All (UIC)
> remotes which can be very flexibly re-programmed / hacked using a home
> made adaptor and "JP1" software. To be honest I've no idea
Franck@ wrote:
> The creation of "activities" is great and essential. This avoids having
> to juggle multiple remote controls
Exactly! My Harmony controls TV, AVR, satellite receiver, Squeezebox and
an HTPC running Kodi. Aboslutely seamless.
Extra comfort points for using RF between remote and
Another vote for the One-For-All remotes. I've never owned or used a
Harmony, so I don't know what I'm missing, but I have a couple of
One-For-All 8's which work very well. They have a learning function,
and the JP1 software allows me to backup/clone/restore a fully
configured remote very
Maybe a lone dissenting voice, but I never really got on with my Harmony
remote. After struggling to get it working in the way I wanted I ended
up buying some One-for-All (UIC) remotes which can be very flexibly
re-programmed / hacked using a home made addaptor and "JP1" software. To
be honest
Franck@ wrote:
> This is very, very bad news! All the multimedia systems of my family and
> friends are controlled by these remote controls (Harmony 6xx).
>
> The creation of "activities" is great and essential. This avoids having
> to juggle multiple remote controls (TV, amplifier, multimedia
Paul Webster wrote:
> I thought it was only bad news when one breaks and you cannot get a new
> one - until then there is no change ... and Logitech even saying that
> they will still add IR codes for new devices that have to be controlled.
Yes, at this moment nothing changes: it still works.
Franck@ wrote:
> This is very, very bad news! All the multimedia systems of my family and
> friends are controlled by these remote controls (Harmony 6xx).
>
I thought it was only bad news when one breaks and you cannot get a new
one - until then there is no change ... and Logitech even saying
This is very, very bad news! All the multimedia systems of my family and
friends are controlled by these remote controls (Harmony 6xx).
The creation of "activities" is great and essential. This avoids having
to juggle multiple remote controls (TV, amplifier, multimedia player
...) and it
Oh no! The Harmony Companion is second best gadget I ever had.
We all know thats numbers one.
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SB Radio
While I am new to LMS/Squeezebox, I have had harmony remotes for years.
I have a One, a 650 and 2 hubs with the smart remotes . Those hubs are
the best $$ I have spent . My fiancé has some disabilities and having
one uniform remote for everything makes life much easier for her. I have
them
I still use my Harmony 880 which I bought about 18 years ago. They were
a Canadian company started around 2001 and had amazing customer service.
I recall setting up my Tact digital room correction system, digital amps
and other gear over the phone with a tech support person. He accessed my
paul- wrote:
> I figured this day would come. Ive used them before Logitech bought
> the line. Kinda odd when they are really the only player in town
> The market is just too small
I've been using Harmony a long time too, but most people just have a
smart tv with all the apps, no A/V
I figured this day would come. Ive used them before Logitech bought
the line. Kinda odd when they are really the only player in town
The market is just too small
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Apesbrain wrote:
> It's a good product. It fills a specific need. No one else makes a
> worthy substitute. Sound familiar?
Funny guy!
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It's a good product. It fills a specific need. No one else makes a
worthy substitute. Sound familiar?
Anyway, I bought a backup this morning.
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I bloody love my Harmony Hub, at least when I'm done configuring it
because that's an ordeal which perfectly illustrates the vulnerability
of hardware that's dependent on cloud services.
Hopefully Harmony customers will get the same level of long term support
that Squeezebox users have enjoyed
Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
https://www.engadget.com/harmony-remote-rip-020210167.html
Official Statement
https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/150658341
While Harmony remotes are and continue to be available through various
retailers, moving forward Logitech will no
The SB Classic can work with no WLAN card.
A bad / broken / incompatible WLAN card will stop a SB Class from
working.
Do NOT flash / reprogram a replacement WLAN CARD
1. Remove WLAN card and connect SB Classic with wired Ethernet to LMS.
2. Check SB Classic powers up and connects to LMS.
3.
bpa wrote:
> SB Classic uses same firmware with and without WLAN card. SB Classic
> firmware is installed and updated by LMS.
>
> Note sure what you mean by " flashed it with a programmer ".
>
> When WLAN card fails - usual action is to replace with an identical
> model - no need to flash.
SB Classic uses same firmware with and without WLAN card. SB Classic
firmware is installed and updated by LMS.
Note sure what you mean by " flashed it with a programmer ".
When WLAN card fails - usual action is to replace with an identical
model - no need to flash.
Plenty of replacement
Good day, everyone . I have such a problem .
Logitech Squeezebox Classic with wi-fi capability - the network card
burned down -
I replaced it and flashed it with a programmer - but I only had the same
player at hand but without wi-fi /
PROBLEM !!! Need firmware on Logitech Squeezebox Classic -
w3wilkes wrote:
> but the one hit wonders don't seem to have that formula for longevity
> that we saw in the 60's.
You really first know that after 10-20 year
..
Callesoroe
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One of the things I look for is bands that are capable of doing whole
albums like "Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit". I know we had the "one hit
wonders" like "J. Frank Wilson and the Cavaliers", but the one hit
wonders don't seem to have that formula for longevity that we saw in the
60's.
Main
I disagree. The advent of CDs and now streamed albums has brought more
tracks per media format than before. Yes there a single track releases
but more EPs and albums?
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toby10 wrote:
> Indeed. You could also bring back cassettes, 8-tracks, HD-DVD, beta
> max/VHS, etc
Overtime, I expect to see the end of the album as a concept, and thats
more worrying. As streaming services become more embedded and a way for
the media giants to maintain a profitable lock on
earthbased wrote:
> Everything has a price.
Indeed. You could also bring back cassettes, 8-tracks, HD-DVD, beta
max/VHS, etc
Is there a (albeit small) market for them? Sure. But when your
competition for the above is CDs & downloads, Bluetooth & WiFi,
streaming, Blu-ray, DVD
.. why
I think that Logitech has stopped selling its AirPlay speaker.
So does this mean that it does not have any speakers with TCP/IP in them
any more?
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Well, Porsche, to begin with, already no longer exists (as a company
making cars) today...
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earthbased wrote:
> Porsche should shut down immediately!
Porsche and all other auto manufacturers will look much different in the
near future (and some will not exist). Younger people are no longer
interested in owning cars or the driving experience. They are very happy
with mass
Mnyb wrote:
> I know . Working in a multinational myself :) the top floor does not
> really know what to do with smaller products even if they work well in
> their niche's and even turn a small profit with reasonable margin .
> They just cant fit it into both bussines model and organisation .
toby10 wrote:
> This has been discussed in here for years, over and over. It will never
> happen. It will never be resurrected, nor sold, nor licensed to a third
> party, etc..
> It's dead as a viable consumer product offering.
Everything has a price.
FredFredrickson wrote:
> Who thinks Logitech should resurrect the brand and start selling
> squeezeboxen again?
I do!
I would also hope for different brands, with different quality,
audiophile and price ranges, and different solutions, with everything
from full players like the boom and radio,
Not sure about Android but their Web browser player does not use a
standard supported format which means at the moment the station cannot
be played on LMS , SB or UE.
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They are using Cirrus as their streaming service and don't provide a
simple streaming URL that LMS/Squeezebox can use.
Someone with an Android device should be able to run it through a local
proxy to see what it is doing for that ... which might lead to a
reusable URL.
Paul Webster
pippin wrote:
> Well, there is of course the top level menu called Radios.
>
> If you dont have that one you probably havent entered your
> MySqueezebox.com account credentials in the server settings.
And I think that'll give you the TuneIn Radio option (see my reply in
your other thread).
Well, there is of course the top level menu called Radios.
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You wouldn't be able to provide a little context? Since there is nothing
with just that name, you don't exactly give any information that would
help getting a relevant answer.
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it.
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Ive come to the conclusion that the Transporters word clock input
(and/or associated software) is simply not functioning correctly, and
that theres nothing wrong with the DAC6. Considering how much I really
do love the Transporter, and was just curious about older DACs (even
though I didnt
Good day ~
I recently purchased an EMM Labs DAC6e SE, and got it hooked up to my
Logitech Transporter earlier today. I'm outputting PCM data over
AES/EBU and have slaved it to the DAC6e's word clock via BNC. The DAC
locks to the signal, reporting no errors on the front panel, but is
putting
cathcam wrote:
> Anyone else notice the similarity between the Duet+controller and the
> Harmony Pro and the Home Hub...
> https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/harmony-pro?crid=60
>
> I wonder if you could use the Harmony Pro as a remote to control a
> player or LMS?
Yes, it works. I was
cathcam wrote:
> I wonder if you could use the Harmony Pro as a remote to control a
> player or LMS?
.
.
The Harmony Pro will control most if not ALL Slim Devices that use IR
Remote. The Duet IE Receiver/Controller are RF Controlled devices so the
Harmony Pro doesn't work with them.
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Apesbrain wrote:
> I use a Harmony 650 to control a Touch.Via infrared presumably. It would be
> interesting to know if there are
vestiges of the LMS cli over Ethernet, is the point of the original
question if I read it right. Personally I very very much doubt it, but I
wouldn't be surprised if
cathcam wrote:
> I wonder if you could use the Harmony Pro as a remote to control a
> player or LMS?
I use a Harmony 650 to control a Touch.
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garym wrote:
> These last few posts are talking about SONOS, not Sonore. Many (all?)
> Sonore products already work with LMS, as they include Squeezelite.
Thanks, I wasn't aware of that.
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drmatt wrote:
> In broad sweeping terms only.. a lot of time has passed. I've no doubt
> the hub has a huge amount more power and features compared to the
> duet/receiver.
>
>
> -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk-
That looks right to me.
Another Logitech acquisition (2004, for USD
In broad sweeping terms only.. a lot of time has passed. I've no doubt
the hub has a huge amount more power and features compared to the
duet/receiver.
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Anyone else notice the similarity between the Duet+controller and the
Harmony Pro and the Home Hub...
https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/harmony-pro?crid=60
I wonder if you could use the Harmony Pro as a remote to control a
player or LMS?
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Ikabob wrote:
> I just had an idea that might bring SB owners back into the market
> place. I haven't read all the posts on this thread so someone may have
> alluded to something like this. But, what if SONOS made their devices
> compatible with the Squeezeboxes. I would be very inclined to buy
cathcam wrote:
> For the most part, all cloud services are the same. Pull you in, lock up
> your data, charge to access it, add services to maintain it.
Absolutely. Unfortunately most people don't seem to mind these days.
> How many companies do you know that offer the right to leave and take
Julf wrote:
> The whole SONOS business idea is based on tying you into a closed
> system.
For the most part, all cloud services are the same. Pull you in, lock up
your data, charge to access it, add services to maintain it.
How many companies do you know that offer the right to leave and take
mherger wrote:
> >
> IMHO the LMS based product is becoming more and more of a niche product.
>
> Who does still curate his own music collection? We do, yes. But who
> else? The mass market future is in the cloud, like it or not. As you
> said: easy to use. And connected.
>
> --
>
>
Julf wrote:
> The whole SONOS business idea is based on tying you into a closed
> system.
It's not ´fully' closed due to it's upnp support. What is really
proprietary is their sync system. There is a last improvement I'm
thinking of adding that's to manage the Sonos grouping / ungrouping
Ikabob wrote:
> what if SONOS made their devices compatible with the Squeezeboxes. I
> would be very inclined to buy SONOS products to add to my SB ecosystem.
> It might be a profitable venture for SONOS.
The whole SONOS business idea is based on tying you into a closed
system.
"To try to
andifor wrote:
> Mix-up? Sonos and Sonore are not the same company. Only the first 4
> letters are the same.
These last few posts are talking about SONOS, not Sonore. Many (all?)
Sonore products already work with LMS, as they include Squeezelite.
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Ikabob wrote:
> I just had an idea that might bring SB owners back into the market
> place. I haven't read all the posts on this thread so someone may have
> alluded to something like this. But, what if SONOS made their devices
> compatible with the Squeezeboxes. I would be very inclined to buy
castalla wrote:
> Just use upnpbridge plugin and Sonos speakers become SB players.
good point. Still not sure why I'd spend $300+ for a Sonos speaker to
use with LMS, when cheaper/better options are available.
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garym wrote:
> Their underlying technology is completely different. Why buy SONOS
> products to use with other SBs. Just add one of the many inexpensive Pi
> microcomputer players to emulate a Squeezebox player.
Just use upnpbridge plugin and Sonos speakers become SB players.
Touch,
Ikabob wrote:
> I just had an idea that might bring SB owners back into the market
> place. I haven't read all the posts on this thread so someone may have
> alluded to something like this. But, what if SONOS made their devices
> compatible with the Squeezeboxes. I would be very inclined to buy
I just had an idea that might bring SB owners back into the market
place. I haven't read all the posts on this thread so someone may have
alluded to something like this. But, what if SONOS made their devices
compatible with the Squeezeboxes. I would be very inclined to buy SONOS
products to add
jerrym303 wrote:
> My Modwright Transporter has been in a box for six years after moving.
> I was thinking it would be hopelessly out of date, but still looks like
> it will be useful. I liked the sound. No need to buy a new digital
> source for my ripped CD collection when I get the system
My Modwright Transporter has been in a box for six years after moving.
I was thinking it would be hopelessly out of date, but still looks like
it will be useful. I liked the sound. No need to buy a new digital
source for my ripped CD collection when I get the system fired back up.
I tink that
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Hello
I do not know if logitech is going to do a squeezebox ressurection but
if they want they must first look at what did not work in their
financial plans.
For me it is essentially the complexity of the product. I remember few
years ago when I bought my
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