Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-14 Thread lanierb
I don't know if this is fully resolved yet or not, but if not, looking at the netstumbler output I would suggest putting the router on channel 1. Also, what model linksys router is it? If it is an older WRT54G or any vintage WRT54GL you can replace the firmware with a great third party firmware

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-13 Thread cronshd
andynormancx;319317 Wrote: You guys appear to be mixing up the two different tests, wifi signal strength one and the network test one (easy to do because the graphs look the same). cronshd posted the details of his wifi signal strength test showing him managing 40-50% on it. Phil then

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-13 Thread Phil Leigh
The best advice I can give you is: 0) make a note of ALL of your 6.5.x setup preferences - some of these MAY need to re-entered by you later under certain circumstancesin 7.x 1) (if windows) reboot the PC then stop SS if it auto-starts before installing new version of SC. 2) use the latest

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread amcluesent
Wired or wi-fi connection to the player? I'd guess wi-fi and some interference on the channel, either another wi-fi router, X10 unit or wireless phone has been installed nearby. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile:

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread Phil Leigh
when you say distorted, do you mean that the music stutters like it is being interrupted? Are you wireless? - run a network health test and report back -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU -

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread cronshd
Yes - it breaks up - stutters and comes to a halt. And now it is starting to happen on MP3s - the behaviour is a little different.it goes distorted/stuttering then starts rebuffering. So it is not just for FLACs now. Yes it is wireless - and has been working perfectly for 6 months or so.

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread aubuti
Like Phil said, run the network health test that comes with SC and report back. There are a lot of possibilities for the new interference, such as neighbors with new wireless networks (or just new routers), 2.4GHz phones, etc. You could install NetStumbler to find out what wireless channel(s)

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread cronshd
Hi I ran NetStumbler (see attached screen dump) - and it shows 2 Linksys (my SSID) entries. I changed (via the Linksys 192.168.1.1) the channel to channel 12. I'm not sure why there are 2 entries as there is only one modem/router. I also switched off the cordless phone in the house. None of

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread amcluesent
I'm not sure why there are 2 entries as there is only one modem/router The MAC addresses are different, that's another linksys with a default SSID I'd try moving to channels 3 or 9 and see what the reception is like. -- amcluesent

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread aubuti
amcluesent;319166 Wrote: I'm not sure why there are 2 entries as there is only one modem/router The MAC addresses are different, that's another linksys with a default SSID I'd try moving to channels 3 or 9 and see what the reception is like. That, and also change your SSID (and admin

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread cronshd
amcluesent;319166 Wrote: I'm not sure why there are 2 entries as there is only one modem/router The MAC addresses are different, that's another linksys with a default SSID I'd try moving to channels 3 or 9 and see what the reception is like. Sodo you mean there is another linksys

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread cronshd
This is the latest NetStumbler. attached... +---+ |Filename: cronshd linksys v2.doc | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5428|

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread cronshd
I ran SlimServer and went to the Debugging section - and switched some of the flags on (not sure exactly what each flag is - as it is not explained). Anyway, the resulting log is attached. You can see if you go to 'Beck' - maybe where the problems start. It does not mean so mcuh to me - but I

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread bpa
The 2nd router could be a neighbours not a rogue. Test this possibility by turning off your linksys router and then run NetStumbler - if there is only one linksys router left then there is a neighbouring router causing the problem. In terms of network testing. From SB3 run the Network Test

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread Phil Leigh
Your symptoms are consistent with a neighbour having installed a new WAP recently. Follow BPA's advice and report back. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread cronshd
Hi - ok - yes I think it must be a neighbours device (from a long distance). I switched mine off and could see on NetStumbler there was still a Linksys - and if I did Fn+F5 - to scan for wireless networks it came up. Interestingly, it came up at about 5% strength - and yet now when I switch my

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread Phil Leigh
cronshd;319202 Wrote: Hi - ok - yes I think it must be a neighbours device (from a long distance). I switched mine off and could see on NetStumbler there was still a Linksys - and if I did Fn+F5 - to scan for wireless networks it came up. Interestingly, it came up at about 5% strength - and

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread cronshd
Ok - quick update. I changed my SSID - and set up Squeezebox with the new id etc - and reset the network on the PC. So far..it seems to be working!! :-) I've listened to 2 tracks straight through and no stuttering. I hope it continues! Thank you very much. I

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread cronshd
Ouch - just as I posted - I got a short stutter - although transient it continued - but it unnerved me a bit. Is there some way I can do proper test? Apart from listening to stuff non-stop. I want to check the 'fidelity' of the sound. -- cronshd

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread Phil Leigh
cronshd;319211 Wrote: Ouch - just as I posted - I got a short stutter - although transient it continued - but it unnerved me a bit. Is there some way I can do proper test? Apart from listening to stuff non-stop. I want to check the 'fidelity' of the sound. It's not the fidelity that is

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread cronshd
Hi Phil No - I have never run the test before. Is it possible you can give me step by step instructions? The set up has been perfect for the lat 6 monthsno problems whatsoever... Thanks Oh - and the Server is connected by a cable into the back of the Wireless Router. -- cronshd

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread Phil Leigh
cronshd;319216 Wrote: Hi Phil No - I have never run the test before. Is it possible you can give me step by step instructions? The set up has been perfect for the lat 6 monthsno problems whatsoever... Thanks Oh - and the Server is connected by a cable into the back of the

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread cronshd
Just before we get into that, I think that the 'ouch' just got a stutter was because Laptop2 was still associated with 'Linksys'. I went to check out L2 - and music was still playing - then when I started messing with the network settings (to get it on to the new SSID) I could hear the music

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread Phil Leigh
Yes - it was called Network test under 6.5.x (sorry I'm on 7.2 nowadays) Anyway, from your screenshot it is installed - I just can't remember how you run it on that version... Do you have a help icon on the home page? It's either there where you run it or it's run from the Player itself using the

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread cronshd
Ok - I found it... it is a click on Server and Network health. I ran the highest rate at 5000kbps. The result is attached. I have had more stutters since (even though L2 is shut down). See attached. +---+ |Filename:

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread cronshd
And now much lower - more like 59-60it seemed as if it was stuttering but obviously I couldnt hear anything... -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread:

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread cronshd
Ok - I can see that I can collect performance stats for the Player and Server. Should I send these to you after running the test for sometime? -- cronshd cronshd's Profile:

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread Phil Leigh
cronshd;319232 Wrote: Ok - I can see that I can collect performance stats for the Player and Server. Should I send these to you after running the test for sometime? No... you need to run the test at 1500 (not 5000) and see what happens. If it is not 100% then you have a wif-fi issue. --

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread Phil Leigh
And click on enable performance monitoring and see what that says... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread cronshd
Hi ok At 1500, this is the Signal Strenght result so far. I have a slight confession.I noticed that I had put a large solid box (of vinyl) in front of the wireless router - and I guess this may also have had an impact. At least, the average seems to be increasing - as we speak it is now

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread Phil Leigh
OK that is your problem right there - you have way too little signal strength and you NEED to get 100% at 1500 not 40-50% Could something be interfering with your wi-fi? Neighbours maybe? Try moving the router a bit... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread cronshd
Ok - I moved the router a bit higher (that's all I can do right now). It is starting to hit 60%. What I don;t understand is that my laptop which is about 1m away from the Squeezebox gets a 100% signal. Why would that be? -- cronshd

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread Phil Leigh
cronshd;319248 Wrote: Ok - I moved the router a bit higher (that's all I can do right now). It is starting to hit 60%. What I don;t understand is that my laptop which is about 1m away from the Squeezebox gets a 100% signal. Why would that be? The 2 network strength tests are

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread cronshd
Ok - I understand on the laptop getting 100% ok. Do I need some signal boosting equipment? Yes - I enabled Performance Monitoring - that gave the stats I sent. The buffer though did not produce any numbers - it was always zero. ...is that another issue? At the moment - listening to a FLAC

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread cronshd
...and currently, the average is nearly 60%.. -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread Phil Leigh
cronshd;319256 Wrote: Ok - I understand on the laptop getting 100% ok. Do I need some signal boosting equipment? Yes - I enabled Performance Monitoring - that gave the stats I sent. The buffer though did not produce any numbers - it was always zero. ...is that another issue?

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread cronshd
Hi Phil. Ok - I changed channel - it is now consistently in the 70's. Thanks very much for your help on this. -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread:

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread andynormancx
Phil Leigh;319246 Wrote: OK that is your problem right there - you have way too little signal strength and you NEED to get 100% at 1500 not 40-50% You guys appear to be mixing up the two different tests, wifi signal strength one and the network test one (easy to do because the graphs

Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok

2008-07-12 Thread Phil Leigh
andynormancx;319317 Wrote: You guys appear to be mixing up the two different tests, wifi signal strength one and the network test one (easy to do because the graphs look the same). cronshd posted the details of his wifi signal strength test showing him managing 40-50% on it. Phil then