wortgefecht wrote:
Steinberg claims, that this PCIe card is the best the market has to
offer.
Don't they all? :)
To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt
edge that will fool many people -
Julf wrote:
Don't they all? :)
Sure they do ;) That's why I asked about the SOtM card!
Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk
- *ASRock Ion 330* with Lubuntu 14.04 LTS running LMS 7.8.1 as
music/video server
- *Boom* (master bedroom), *Radio* (master bathroom), Archos 35 Home
cliveb wrote:
It would appear to be a Vortexbox in nice case.
It even has the Vortexbox logo on the front.
And they want $2.5k for this?
Pre-built 2TB Vortexbox servers can be had on eBay for about £300
I helped them build this unit and i'll give you the info on what makes
it better then a
agillis wrote:
- Custom aluminium case. You really need to see it to appreciate how
beautiful it is and and how well it works. The CD slot is hidden in the
border. Very Apple like
Yes, good looking - but I guess no effect on sound quality.
- Custom low noise power supply
How much audible
agillis wrote:
- Custom aluminium case. You really need to see it to appreciate how
beautiful it is and and how well it works. The CD slot is hidden in the
border. Very Apple like
I agree that it does look very nice.
(I hate to say this, but IMHO the one thing that slightly spoils its
agillis wrote:
- SOtM USB card. As may of you already know this is the best USB card in
the industry. Precision oscillators, super low noise power supplies
etc.
Either you know this is snake oil (but elect to promote it nevertheless)
or you are just incompetent as a developer.
agillis wrote:
- SOtM USB card. As may of you already know this is the best USB card in
the industry. Precision oscillators, super low noise power supplies etc.
There is a German retailer selling VortexBox audiophile devices for
2K that come with - according to the seller - either a ESI
wortgefecht wrote:
Oh, and then there is this nice device here:
http://www.sotm-audio.com/sotmwp/english/portfolio-item/sms-1000/ It's a
CD/DVD ripping station slash LMS (DLNA, SMB, NFS) server with a 2 gb
hdd.
It would appear to be a Vortexbox in nice case.
It even has the Vortexbox logo
cliveb wrote:
It would appear to be a Vortexbox in nice case.
It even has the Vortexbox logo on the front.
And they want $2.5k for this?
Pre-built 2TB Vortexbox servers can be had on eBay for about £300
Thank you for introducing me to Vortexbox :) Unfortunately, I haven't
heard of that
cliveb wrote:
And they want $2.5k for this?
Well, at least it isn't as bad as the $6,500 you have to pay for the
same stuff in a 'McIntosh box'
(http://www.mcintoshlabs.com/us/Products/pages/categorylanding.aspx?CatId=MediaStreamers).
To try to judge the real from the false will always be
wortgefecht wrote:
Does anyone here have any experience with a dedicated Vortexbox 2.3 box,
preferably home built?
I've bought a couple from Small Green Computer (Andrew, the founder of
Vortexbox, store front) and built several for family and friends. I
think it is one of the best Linux
mcdudeabides wrote:
I've bought a couple from Small Green Computer (Andrew, the founder of
Vortexbox, store front) and built several for family and friends. I
think it is one of the best Linux platforms for a LMS based media
platform. Keep in mind that it goes beyond just trying to host
Thanks for the links! I checked several suppliers of ready-made
VortexBox boxes and as far as I can see, they all use standard parts and
cases, some even have very detailed lists of components. So I should be
able to build my own in order to replace my ASRock Ion 330 working as a
server and the
philippe_44 wrote:
Bummer ... Sonos recognizes the stream and LMS shows it as a device.
That's cool but that device cannot be synchronized. So that's a good
start, but the missing sync is making that a less interesting feature
than my hardware bridge
[edit] : a Sonos client cannot be
cliveb wrote:
If you just want to be able to buy a piece of hardware that will
integrate into your LMS system, pre-built RaspberryPi + HiFiBerry in a
case packages are starting to appear on eBay. Here's are two examples on
the UK eBay site:
pablolie wrote:
i'd rather pay $200.
Not sure, whether this device already came up here:
http://www.sotm.sonore.us/SOtM1.html
The SOtM sMS-100. Even though it's called a 'mini server', it's actually
an audiophile Squeezebox compatible box: SOtM sMS-100 is a network
player which supports
wortgefecht wrote:
Not sure, whether this device already came up here
Yes, the SOtM has been discussed every now and then. Mostly with people
questioning the high price compared to something like the Raspberry PI,
but I guess the Sonore people have to recoup the cost of paid product
placement
GeeJay wrote:
I'll probably try to figure out all this Raspberry Pi stuff one day, out
of necessity, but I try to follow all those threads and I don't
understand most of what you guys are talking about. Someone tells me I
can plug a box into my stereo system and get music...that I
cliveb wrote:
Sorry, am I missing something here?
.. using things like RaspPi/Odroid/Wandboard/etc?
i still miss a good primer on this. there's always a reference it's
around somewhere, but is there an idiot's quide to building a community
squeezebox replacement somewhere? or can we buy a
philippe_44 wrote:
then I'll see how to hack Squeezelite and a simple streamer.
Probably no need to hack squeezelite as it already does output to stdout
and has been used in other threads to pipe audio into other
applications. In this case possibly VLC but it does not support http
streaming
philippe_44 wrote:
In fact, I was thinking that is I can get a multiple instance of
SqueezeLite, all feeding different streams connected to Sonos
controller, it might be an interesting solution. In other words
SqueezeLite:1 == Stream:1 == Sonos device:1
SqueezeLite:2 == Stream:2 == Sonos
cliveb wrote:
Why would anyone do that? Why would they use expensive Sonos devices to
emulate what can be built for a fraction of the cost using things like
RaspPi/Odroid/Wandboard/etc?
Transition strategy - making sure some LMS facilities are still
accessible. RE Raspberry etc. alternatives
bpa wrote:
Probably no need to hack squeezelite as it already does output to stdout
and has been used in other threads to pipe audio into other
applications. In this case possibly VLC but it does not support http
streaming Flac only streaming MP3 and possibly other lossy audio.
That's what
bpa wrote:
Transition strategy - making sure some LMS facilities are still
accessible. RE Raspberry etc. alternatives some people only want
proper products not DIY perhaps as a sense of security
Exactly - this is about transition. SOmetimes, you'll go native Sonos,
but not at the begining.
philippe_44 wrote:
That's what I'm doing now for test. I started with FFmpeg to directly do
RTP but unfortunately Sonos does not support RTP. So I will either use
FFServer or VLC. But, for going beyond just the test that would proove
feasibility, I was more concerned about the CPU required
bpa wrote:
Transition strategy - making sure some LMS facilities are still
accessible. RE Raspberry etc. alternatives some people only want
proper products not DIY perhaps as a sense of security
It's not that with LMS, DIY is the only option left. You can employ
Android (or iOS) based
bpa wrote:
Transition strategy - making sure some LMS facilities are still
accessible. RE Raspberry etc. alternatives some people only want
proper products not DIY perhaps as a sense of security
Roland0 wrote:
If mp3 is acceptable, the simplest way would be to point the sonos
devices to
bpa wrote:
Transition strategy - making sure some LMS facilities are still
accessible. RE Raspberry etc. alternatives some people only want
proper products not DIY perhaps as a sense of security
I'll probably try to figure out all this Raspberry Pi stuff one day, out
of necessity, but I try
GeeJay wrote:
I'll probably try to figure out all this Raspberry Pi stuff one day, out
of necessity, but I try to follow all those threads and I don't
understand most of what you guys are talking about. Someone tells me I
can plug a box into my stereo system and get music...that I
philippe_44 wrote:
Great ! I did not remember that LMS feature. Tried quickly and Sonos
recognizes the stream and LMS recognizes the Sonos client - I'll see how
sync works (i'not home currently so a bit difficult to listen to the
result) but if it works, then it might be more than good
philippe_44 wrote:
It is at the same time more simple and less elegant :-)
Not quite as perfect as I had hoped - you need one additional player...
however much better than replacing my entire system with e.g. Sonoses in
one go - thanks very much for the explanation - food for thought!
Main
JonWill wrote:
Not quite as perfect as I had hoped - you need one additional player...
however much better than replacing my entire system with e.g. Sonoses in
one go - thanks very much for the explanation - food for thought!
In fact, that makes me think that a better solution could be to
In fact, I was thinking that is I can get a multiple instance of
SqueezeLite, all feeding different streams connected to Sonos
controller, it might be an interesting solution. In other words
SqueezeLite:1 == Stream:1 == Sonos device:1
SqueezeLite:2 == Stream:2 == Sonos device:2
.
paulster wrote:
I used to use MOG, and now I use Spotify, so I'm a paid streaming
service customer. I do know that Rhapsody is a problem, but there are
perfectly viable alternatives that work just fine.
That's very good to know, thank you!
philippe_44 wrote:
I've been a user of many SB devices (3 Boom, 4 radio, 4 receiver, 1
Touch, 1 SB3 ...) I really love these devices, but I have to confess, at
the risk of receiving tomatoes, that I've now added 2 Sonos:1, 1 Sonos:3
and 1 Sonos:5 and I was able to have them reasonably
philippe_44 wrote:
I've been a user of many SB devices (3 Boom, 4 radio, 4 receiver, 1
Touch, 1 SB3 ...) I really love these devices, but I have to confess, at
the risk of receiving tomatoes, that I've now added 2 Sonos:1, 1 Sonos:3
and 1 Sonos:5 and I was able to have them reasonably
JonWill wrote:
I'd be interested i understanding how this works - do you point the
Sonos system to LMS for its music library? And how does syncing work,
other than by trying to rpess play at the same time :) If I could move
slowly over to a mixed economy that would be ideal ...
It is at
I've been a user of many SB devices (3 Boom, 4 radio, 4 receiver, 1
Touch, 1 SB3 ...) I really love these devices, but I have to confess, at
the risk of receiving tomatoes, that I've now added 2 Sonos:1, 1 Sonos:3
and 1 Sonos:5 and I was able to have them reasonably intregrated with
LMS system.
paulster wrote:
I have a load of Logitech SB hardware, but I've taken it all out of
service now. All of my Squeezelite-powered units sync perfectly, play
high-res audio, and do everything and more than the Logitech hardware
that preceded them did.
Only issue I've had with unofficial
I used to use MOG, and now I use Spotify, so I'm a paid streaming
service customer. I do know that Rhapsody is a problem, but there are
perfectly viable alternatives that work just fine.
Two track 1's and no track 2 after a scan for new and changed? Please
vote for serious scanning bug '17782'
And some wifi problems does not usually means that the device is
broken . OP migth be trying to solve the wrong problem ?
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x
MeridianDSP5200
GeeJay wrote:
I am actively watching for a true replacement for SB. There are some
interesting designs, but the software is so rudimentary, or the devices
don't sync, that it amazes me a commercial venture doesn't simply come
out with an LMS compatible device. Hell, even highly-touted
get.amped wrote:
If the Boom and Radio are fine, fully functional SB3s are routinely
available on e-bay for under $150 USD. I recently picked up 3 for $125
each for some friends who were envious of my system.
Also search on LastFM player on ebay, I picked up a cheap fully working
Duet pair
cparker wrote:
Also search on LastFM player on ebay, I picked up a cheap fully working
Duet pair this way, the seller had no idea what they were actually
selling, it was still running the original firmware! Ouch :)
wow, thanks! not many squeezebox 3s on the uk ebay site sadly... and i
gb115b wrote:
wow, thanks! not many squeezebox 3s on the uk ebay site sadly... and i
wonder if i'm just putting off the inevitable (given that hardware and
software are no longer readily available, maybe it's time to call it
quits?). it's a real shame what logitech did to slimdevices.
atrocity wrote:
The software is under active development. Logitech-manufactured
hardware is out of production, but there's no shortage of low-cost
alternatives that work great with LMS.
Quite so. And in the context of running an LMS-based system, the
hardware is a secondary consideration:
cliveb wrote:
For a useable multi-room streaming system, LMS remains a very sensible
choice.
And as much as we all like to scratch our heads and wonder what Logitech
was thinking, I'm very grateful to them and to SlimDevices for getting
us to this point.
Given how much interest there still
Get an Android box, see
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?102125-Android-Media-Player-as-squeezebox-replacement
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I am actively watching for a true replacement for SB. There are some
interesting designs, but the software is so rudimentary, or the devices
don't sync, that it amazes me a commercial venture doesn't simply come
out with an LMS compatible device. Hell, even highly-touted audiophile
quality
I would try and trouble shoot your hardware issues first before pulling
the plug. If you post details on your problems users here will do their
best to help you.
Also, if you are happy with LMS and the Squeezebox eco system there are
lots of options for building your own players (PiCoreplayer on
johnas wrote:
I would try and trouble shoot your hardware issues first before pulling
the plug. If you post details on your problems users here will do their
best to help you.
Also, if you are happy with LMS and the Squeezebox eco system there are
lots of options for building your own
gb115b wrote:
I saw something called squeezeplug which sounded like it could be
good. I guess my big worry on these ones is the multi-room synching
aspect.
Squeezeplug is the name for a modified version of debian with install
scripts for LMS and players - it runs on Raspi or Odroid
Hi, are you running the player wireless and if so have you looked into
the wireless signal where the player is located. The lms information
page lists the signal strength.
Check the power supply, make sure it is seated and not causing a
problem if you jiggle it.
The SB3 WiFi cards becoming
I know the OP said they had limited time available for tinkering, but
I've got a couple of Raspberry Pi running piCorePlayer, which uses
Squeezelite, and has a web UI for admin and setup tasks. I'm using one
with a HiFiBerry DAC, the other with a USB Headphone DAC. They really
didn't take very
If the Boom and Radio are fine, fully functional SB3s are routinely
available on e-bay for under $150 USD. I recently picked up 3 for $125
each for some friends who were envious of my system.
Win7Pro(x64)[3.3Ghz i5, 8GB RAM, 120GB SSD system, 15TB storage], LMS
7.9.0 - Logitech Squeezebox
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