Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-03-18 Thread ASS-Ware
Peter;183360 Wrote: ASS-Ware wrote: jonheal;182579 Wrote: Being pretty much an idiot when it comes to networking stuff, please clarify something for me: As I understand it, encrypting your wireless broadcasts (hopefully) prevents an eavesdropper from reading the packets you

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-25 Thread Peter
snarlydwarf wrote: Mark Lanctot;183284 Wrote: Looks like a pretty esoteric black hat crack to me. Although I don't fully understand the tool, it looks like made-up SSIDs and long, complex passphrases will still help. It's really a matter of timeshifting. Note that only advantage

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-25 Thread Peter
ASS-Ware wrote: Peter;183283 Wrote: ASS-Ware wrote: Mark Lanctot;181815 Wrote: The SB3 also supports WPA2/AES. Now WPA/TKIP hasn't been broken yet so it's probably overkill, but as they say, go big or go home...WPA2/AES works just fine for me and

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-25 Thread Peter
ASS-Ware wrote: jonheal;182579 Wrote: Being pretty much an idiot when it comes to networking stuff, please clarify something for me: As I understand it, encrypting your wireless broadcasts (hopefully) prevents an eavesdropper from reading the packets you send out into the atmosphere.

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-24 Thread ASS-Ware
Mark Lanctot;181815 Wrote: The SB3 also supports WPA2/AES. Now WPA/TKIP hasn't been broken yet so it's probably overkill, but as they say, go big or go home...WPA2/AES works just fine for me and was as easy as WPA/TKIP to implement. I am sorry to say you are wrong, but WPA hacks are

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-24 Thread Mark Lanctot
ASS-Ware;183235 Wrote: I am sorry to say you are wrong, but WPA hacks are available and so are WPA2 hacks. OK, come crack me. -- Mark Lanctot It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response. - Jon Heal

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-24 Thread Paul_B
If a professional decides to hack you then they can crak WEP, WPA, WPA2. But we would they bother on a residential estate? Script kiddies can probabaly crack WEP but easier to go after no security. So what is the answer? Well to make it as hard as possible by using WPA2 with short timeouts

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-24 Thread ASS-Ware
Paul_B;183246 Wrote: If a professional decides to hack you then they can crak WEP, WPA, WPA2. But we would they bother on a residential estate? Script kiddies can probabaly crack WEP but easier to go after no security. So what is the answer? Well to make it as hard as possible by using

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-24 Thread Peter
ASS-Ware wrote: Mark Lanctot;181815 Wrote: The SB3 also supports WPA2/AES. Now WPA/TKIP hasn't been broken yet so it's probably overkill, but as they say, go big or go home...WPA2/AES works just fine for me and was as easy as WPA/TKIP to implement. I am sorry to say you are

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-24 Thread Mark Lanctot
Peter;183283 Wrote: Link? This got me curious too, some Googling got me to: http://www.churchofwifi.org/default.asp?PageLink=Project_Display.asp?PID=95 and http://www.wirelessdefence.org/Contents/coWPAttyMain.htm Looks like a pretty esoteric black hat crack to me. -- Mark Lanctot It's

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-24 Thread snarlydwarf
Mark Lanctot;183284 Wrote: Looks like a pretty esoteric black hat crack to me. Although I don't fully understand the tool, it looks like made-up SSIDs and long, complex passphrases will still help. It's really a matter of timeshifting. Note that only advantage between the first test

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-24 Thread ASS-Ware
Peter;183283 Wrote: ASS-Ware wrote: Mark Lanctot;181815 Wrote: The SB3 also supports WPA2/AES. Now WPA/TKIP hasn't been broken yet so it's probably overkill, but as they say, go big or go home...WPA2/AES works just fine for me and was as easy as WPA/TKIP to implement.

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-24 Thread ASS-Ware
jonheal;182579 Wrote: Being pretty much an idiot when it comes to networking stuff, please clarify something for me: As I understand it, encrypting your wireless broadcasts (hopefully) prevents an eavesdropper from reading the packets you send out into the atmosphere. Protecting the

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-24 Thread ASS-Ware
Paul_B;183246 Wrote: If a professional decides to hack you then they can crak WEP, WPA, WPA2. But we would they bother on a residential estate? They sit in cars, they hack wifi networks and download illegal stuff like child pornography. And it's downloaded from your internet connection, so

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-24 Thread Mitch Harding
Yeah, but why would they bother targeting someone with WPA or WPA2 when there are still plenty of people using WEP or no security at all? My goal in using WPA2 is to make it as inconvenient as possible. Given that right now I can see two of my neighbors unsecured networks, and given that some

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-24 Thread ASS-Ware
Mitch Harding;183308 Wrote: Yeah, but why would they bother targeting someone with WPA or WPA2 when there are still plenty of people using WEP or no security at all? Maybe because people that know what they are doing, setting wpa2 for example, have faster internet access ? Dunno. --

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-24 Thread Mitch Harding
If you can convince my cable company to supply me faster access, please do! I sent them my college transcript and some glowing references from my coworkers, but so far no luck... On 2/24/07, ASS-Ware [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mitch Harding;183308 Wrote: Yeah, but why would they bother

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-24 Thread jonheal
ASS-Ware;183300 Wrote: The thing is, once somebody hacks your wifi, that person is in your network and can try to access all computers in your network, and even worse, use your internet connection for attacks to other networks on the web and you are the one to blame if it's discovered as

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-24 Thread ASS-Ware
Mitch Harding;183310 Wrote: If you can convince my cable company to supply me faster access, please do! Get another ISP then ;-) -- ASS-Ware ASS-Ware's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4280

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-22 Thread Mark Lanctot
Well yes, password size matters, but I was referring to AES's more advanced encryption than TKIP. Since TKIP hasn't been broken yet, AES is overkill - but still, it costs nothing in terms of time and money to implement, so I did it. -- Mark Lanctot It's like, you know, a New Age religion,

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-22 Thread Peter
Mark Lanctot wrote: Well yes, password size matters, but I was referring to AES's more advanced encryption than TKIP. Since TKIP hasn't been broken yet, AES is overkill - but still, it costs nothing in terms of time and money to implement, so I did it. The main risk at the moment is

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-22 Thread jonheal
Being pretty much an idiot when it comes to networking stuff, please clarify something for me: As I understand it, encrypting your wireless broadcasts (hopefully) prevents an eavesdropper from reading the packets you send out into the atmosphere. Protecting the integrity of your network, and the

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-22 Thread Mark Lanctot
jonheal;182579 Wrote: Being pretty much an idiot when it comes to networking stuff, please clarify something for me: As I understand it, encrypting your wireless broadcasts (hopefully) prevents an eavesdropper from reading the packets you send out into the atmosphere. Protecting the

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-22 Thread Peter
Mark Lanctot wrote: jonheal;182579 Wrote: Being pretty much an idiot when it comes to networking stuff, please clarify something for me: As I understand it, encrypting your wireless broadcasts (hopefully) prevents an eavesdropper from reading the packets you send out into the

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-22 Thread jonheal
Peter;182606 Wrote: Mark Lanctot wrote: jonheal;182579 Wrote: Being pretty much an idiot when it comes to networking stuff, please clarify something for me: As I understand it, encrypting your wireless broadcasts (hopefully) prevents an eavesdropper from reading the packets

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-20 Thread Peter
Mark Lanctot wrote: The SB3 also supports WPA2/AES. Now WPA/TKIP hasn't been broken yet so it's probably overkill, but as they say, go big or go home...WPA2/AES works just fine for me and was as easy as WPA/TKIP to implement. It's more a matter of password size IIRC. (size matters)

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-20 Thread Paul_B
Password size and complexity I would guess. Try to use nouns and use uppercase, lowercase, numbers and non-alphanumeric characters like commas, dashes, etc. -- Paul_B Paul ~ Slimserver 6.5.1 on EPIA VIA EN15000 Mini-ITX running Windows 2003 R2.

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-20 Thread Peter
Paul_B wrote: Password size and complexity I would guess. Try to use nouns and use uppercase, lowercase, numbers and non-alphanumeric characters like commas, dashes, etc. Obviously. A long string of 's wouldn't be very secure. Entropy is what you're after. Regards, Peter

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-19 Thread 2pods
pkfox;181653 Wrote: Hi All, what wireless security can be used on a SB3 ? I currently use WEP which I've heard is next to useless I use WPA/PSK for my SB3 with no problems. -- 2pods 2pods's Profile:

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-19 Thread pkfox
2pods;181654 Wrote: I use WPA/PSK for my SB3 with no problems. thanks , I was a bit confused as the SB's setup only offers WEP, then I saw in another post that you need to setup the router's security first, which then changes the SB's option, thanks again -- pkfox When the going gets weird

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-19 Thread Kevin O. Lepard
pkfox;181653 Wrote: Hi All, what wireless security can be used on a SB3 ? I currently use WEP which I've heard is next to useless I use WPA/PSK for my SB3 with no problems. Same here. And you are correct, WEP is functionally useless against any kind of mildly interested attacker. Kevin --

Re: [slim] WPA WEP etc...

2007-02-19 Thread Mark Lanctot
The SB3 also supports WPA2/AES. Now WPA/TKIP hasn't been broken yet so it's probably overkill, but as they say, go big or go home...WPA2/AES works just fine for me and was as easy as WPA/TKIP to implement. -- Mark Lanctot It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble