Re: [slim] Comically Fumbled Squeezebox Replacement Thread - Would you be interested?
pippin wrote: > Mine were pretty early ones and Logitech was well aware of the problem > (during the beta I sent another one back and the replacements were > originally more silent and only later developed the noise). > Im not sure whether i remember this correctly but the problem might > also have been specific to 220V/50Hz mine are all in US...110V *Home:* VortexBox 4TB (2.4) > LMS 7.9.1 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) > LMS 7.9.1 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win8(64) > LMS 7.9.1 > Squeezelite *Spares:* Transporter, Touch(3), Radio(3), Boom, SB3, CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103054 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Comically Fumbled Squeezebox Replacement Thread - Would you be interested?
Mine were pretty early ones and Logitech was well aware of the problem (during the beta I sent another one back and the replacements were originally more silent and only later developed the noise). Im not sure whether i remember this correctly but the problem might also have been specific to 220V/50Hz --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103054 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Comically Fumbled Squeezebox Replacement Thread - Would you be interested?
pippin wrote: > Hm... while I actually agree on the Sbooster and for the life of me I > would not let that device near any of my power outlets (having once seen > the interior of one, that device was seriously dangerous)... and no, I > also dont believe linear power supplies improve anything ... > But the power supply that comes with the Touch also can suck big time. > I replaced two of them (against stock switching power supplies) because > they were too noisy. > Not in the sense that that have a noisy power output or something but > LITERALLY noisy. They wheeze. I could still hear them two rooms away. interesting. I haven't heard any noise from the two Touch power supplies I use. But I can certainly see how that would be annoying. I suspect these touch power supplies are all sourced from different manufacturers, so who knows *Home:* VortexBox 4TB (2.4) > LMS 7.9.1 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) > LMS 7.9.1 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win8(64) > LMS 7.9.1 > Squeezelite *Spares:* Transporter, Touch(3), Radio(3), Boom, SB3, CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103054 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Comically Fumbled Squeezebox Replacement Thread - Would you be interested?
Hm... while I actually agree on the Sbooster and for the life of me I would not let that device near any of my power outlets (having once seen the interior of one, that device was seriously dangerous)... and no, I also dont believe linear power supplies improve anything ... But the power supply that comes with the Touch also can suck big time. I replaced two of them (against stock switching power supplies) because they were too noisy. Not in the sense that that have a noisy power output or something but LITERALLY noisy. They wheeze. I could still hear them two rooms away. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103054 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Comically Fumbled Squeezebox Replacement Thread - Would you be interested?
garym wrote: > You're asking the wrong person. I believe in science and engineering and > facts. things like Sbooster are audiophool nonsense. the only thing > they do better is separate you from your money. There's all kinds of > technical reasons that a linear power supply won't improve the Touch, > and there are hundreds of posts on some old threads here on that. But > short answer is: use the Touch with the supplied AC power brick and > enjoy the music! > > edit: if you want to improve your sound, get better speakers, place the > speakers properly, or do other "room treatments". These things can > matter. Not power cords or audio cables. (that is, unless something is > brokenbut if it's broken, it won't be subtle sound quality > differences). I hear ya! Point well taken. Thank you:) celo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64476 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103054 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Comically Fumbled Squeezebox Replacement Thread - Would you be interested?
celo wrote: > Thanks Gary. > > Let me ask this. Last night my wife and I did a blind test running the > SBT via power bank and stock AC adapter. > > Both times we liked the AC adapter better. Everything was more open and > real sounding vs. the battery power. Then I thought, maybe an AC adapter > update would make things better. Such as Sbooster or something similar. > What do you think about that? Thanks. You're asking the wrong person. I believe in science and engineering and facts. things like Sbooster are audiophool nonsense. the only thing they do better is separate you from your money. There's all kinds of technical reasons that a linear power supply won't improve the Touch, and there are hundreds of posts on some old threads here on that. But short answer is: use the Touch with the supplied AC power brick and enjoy the music! *Home:* VortexBox 4TB (2.4) > LMS 7.9.1 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) > LMS 7.9.1 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win8(64) > LMS 7.9.1 > Squeezelite *Spares:* Transporter, Touch(3), Radio(3), Boom, SB3, CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103054 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Comically Fumbled Squeezebox Replacement Thread - Would you be interested?
garym wrote: > short answer. no. Keep the SB Touch. Thanks Gary. Let me ask this. Last night my wife and I did a blind test running the SBT via power bank and stock AC adapter. Both times we liked the AC adapter better. Everything was more open and real sounding vs. the battery power. Then I thought, maybe an AC adapter update would make things better. Such as Sbooster or something similar. What do you think about that? Thanks. celo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64476 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103054 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Comically Fumbled Squeezebox Replacement Thread - Would you be interested?
celo wrote: > I have been using SBT for few years and have no issues. I use it > strictly as a streamer since I have an external DAC. LMS is running via > RPi3. > > I just came across a used Aires Mini with Sbooster. I will pay double > what I paid for the SBT and if I sell my SBT, my cost will be around > $300 just getting the Aries Mini. > > Is it worth it? short answer. no. Keep the SB Touch. *Home:* VortexBox 4TB (2.4) > LMS 7.9.1 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) > LMS 7.9.1 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win8(64) > LMS 7.9.1 > Squeezelite *Spares:* Transporter, Touch(3), Radio(3), Boom, SB3, CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103054 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Comically Fumbled Squeezebox Replacement Thread - Would you be interested?
I have been using SBT for few years and have no issues. I use it strictly as a streamer since I have an external DAC. LMS is running via RPi3. I just came across a used Aires Mini with Sbooster. I will pay double what I paid for the SBT and if I sell my SBT, my cost will be around $300 just getting the Aries Mini. Is it worth it? celo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64476 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103054 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool
I think keep this thread to the use of Net::UDAP - otherwise this digression will fill it. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool
The word "better" is absolute and needs to be based on a measurable quantity. Truth is it sounds "different", maybe, but not "better". -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool
Pi3 with pcp and hifiberry dac sounds even better (clearer) as touch, both wired. Perhaps lucky, I don't now. *SqueezeBoxes:* 2x SB2 (Living room and study), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Bedroom) *Server:* LMS on Pi3 7.9.1. on PcP 3.21 *Network:* AVM Fritzbox, D-Link Smart Switch 24p, 3x Ubiquity edwin2006's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool
I truly fear for humanity. alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool
My Nas is RopsberryPi with battery powerbank, I have found it is serves me better than qnap storage in determination of SQ. HIFI system has to be very very good in order to hear audible differences. But, as someone suggest it is for another thread. check this: https://www.audiostream.com/content/electrically-isolate-your-networked-audio#TDc7Sx8W1PfDcWwH.97 http://www.crazy-audio.com/2013/10/tracking-down-noise-sources-on-a-raspberry-pi/ http://www.crazy-audio.com/2013/09/raspberry-pi-power-supply-noise-on-the-5v-rails/ petarst's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66289 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool
petarst wrote: > It seems my plan has failed, i knew that router will create some noise > and i want to eliminate it That's just nonsense. There's nothing to suggest that noise carried on the ethernet cable under normal circumstances will affect audio performance. Even so, why would a switch induce worse noise than the NAS? Could just as well be the opposite. Enjoy your system and don't waste time coming up with solutions to problems that simply don't exist. alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool
According to the hardware specs ( https://web.archive.org/web/20090221124647/http://slimdevices.com:80/pi_receiver.html ) , the SB has auto receiver polarity detection - this has been reported as auto MDIX which was a HP specific term. I think SB receiver can auto detect direct vs crossover cable - there is unlikely to be any harm in trying as long as there is nothing strange such as POE. However if you are worried about noise .. I suggest that is a different conversation. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool
Mnyb wrote: > Or use a switch ? That conects both NAS and the reciever to your network > ? > > How else is LMS on the NAS suposed to see the rest of the network ? > > As you want to use net::udap you set up a reciever without the controler > . > The controller can do an ad-hoc connection directly to the reciever with > some loss to n performance. > > But if you expect to use a smartphone or tablet or the web-UI > NAS/LMS/reciever must be on the rest of the network that everything's > else conects to ? It seems my plan has failed, i knew that router will create some noise and i want to eliminate it, but, than I can't just use SB - NAS connection via crossover cable, I still need wireless AP to be connected via my phone. What really impress me is that I have compared upgraded SB duet vs some expensive network players and SB blows them away. So far today I couldn't find better player. petarst's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66289 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool
Or use a switch ? That conects both NAS and the reciever to your network ? How else is LMS on the NAS suposed to see the rest of the network ? As you want to use net::udap you set up a reciever without the controler . The controller can do an ad-hoc connection directly to the reciever with some loss to n performance. But if you expect to use a smartphone or tablet or the web-UI NAS/LMS/reciever must be on the rest of the network that everything's else conects to ? Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool
Thx mate, so it means i need to get crossover cable, right? BR/Petar petarst's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66289 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool
If the NAS has a gigabit port it should autodetect crossover. But the Receiver won't it's only 100Mb. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool
Bravo, thank you very much ! Does anyone knows if i can connect directly receiver and my NAS without crossover cable if the port is auto sensitive? petarst's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66289 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
