Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...

2011-03-01 Thread Muele
I think we have covered what devices might or might not appear. What do you think Logitech should do to keep the product alive and profitable? I think we need to realize that in order for the Squeeze-product-line to give us audio-pleasure, it needs to prosper. And mass market is where the money

Re: [slim] How do I get plugin to show in menu?

2011-03-01 Thread bpa
The quality of the audio is nothing to do with the soundcard hardware - the PCM stream is taken after all mixing and sound effects have been added by s/w. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?user

Re: [slim] RJ45 (or WiFi) "SoundCard" does it exist ?

2011-03-01 Thread finnbrodersen
Yes, I know, but is 12Mbit/s not more than enough? Normal CD audio is about 1.4Mbit/s. Or am I missing something ? -- finnbrodersen Some version of SBServer running on a HP EX490 home server SBReceiver --> NAD C162+C272 --> DALI IKON 6 (let's call it MidFi) ---

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-01 Thread Mnyb
Well given the choice between 256k AAC or 24/96 PCM what to do . And better soo if it is sourced from a different less compressed master . So let them market this, if it ends with us getting better sound evfen if it would be possible to cram into a CD . Specifically markett you effort at audiphi

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-01 Thread dsdreamer
Wombat;614827 Wrote: > No, of cause not. We are on "Slimdevices General" forum. Let your > feelings flow, no evidense needed! :) It is not a feeling, but a reasoned conjecture. Difficult to measure per se without sticking electrodes in people's brains. The non-linear and time variant nature of

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-01 Thread Mnyb
I stole this link from you Wombat.. If it is ok http://hlloyge.hl.funpic.de/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/audibility-of-a-cd-standard-ada-loop-inserted.pdf It is a good experiment. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-01 Thread Wombat
No matter what these samples bring, there are some that claim it is better even when no one can prove to hear differences or the other way around. No way to prove anything in here in any way. If you do they wonder for a fraction of a second about your deafness and go on writing in the next threa

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-01 Thread Mnyb
May be soo ? But our old analog playback chain is/ was also bandwith limited and suffer similar problems ? Can these problems be interly described as a " digital evil" . The digital filtering in downsampling they are not nearly as bad as the analogue counterpart if you record at 44.1 ? Hence my p

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-01 Thread Wombat
dsdreamer;614825 Wrote: > I guess I am setting myself up for several flames for writing this post. > However, I am just sharing an opinion. No, of cause not. We are on "Slimdevices General" forum. Let your feelings flow, no evidense needed! :) -- Wombat Transporter (modded) -> RG142 -> Avant

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-01 Thread dsdreamer
Mnyb;614595 Wrote: > ? I was under the impression that majority of the eventual improvement > is in the increased bith depth ? As this would increase the signal > content that we stand a chance to hear. > > I know what a brick wall fillter is, but this is nowdays only a factor > during recording

Re: [slim] How do I get plugin to show in menu?

2011-03-01 Thread Guy48065
Thanks for the tips. I got it to work but it's horrible. My server is a dinky netbook and must have the worst soundcard imaginable. Roughly equivalent to a $2 AM radio inside a coffee can underwater in the next room. -- Guy48065 ---

Re: [slim] Can SB sort albums by release date?

2011-03-01 Thread JJZolx
stevied123;614670 Wrote: > My SB devices sort albums by an artist by year, but then alphabetically > (that is, all 1983 albums alphabetically, then 1984 alphabetically > etc.). Is there some settings adjustment I can make so that they are > sorted completely by date (as long as I've tagged with d

Re: [slim] How do I get plugin to show in menu?

2011-03-01 Thread usch
You can also go to "Internet Radio" > "Tune in URL" and enter wavin:0 there (or wavin:1 or whatever may be appropriate on your system). Everything else is done using the mixer panel of your soundcard. -- usch usch's Profil

Re: [slim] How do I get plugin to show in menu?

2011-03-01 Thread bpa
Waveinput doesn't show up in any menu - you just create an appropriate favorites and then play the favorite. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimde

[slim] How do I get plugin to show in menu?

2011-03-01 Thread Guy48065
I'm a plugin newb... I want to try the Wave Input plugin but can't find how to get it to show in my menu. It's checked "Active" and I've looked in the Advanced Settings but there's no option for it. I have a SB Classic & a Duet controller. When working will it show up on both? -- Guy48065 --

Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android

2011-03-01 Thread CrankyTom
MusicIP Support, MusicIP Support, MusicIP Support, Please, Please, Please :) Lots of people have been requesting access to this feature on SqueezeCommander, please make it available, it's killing me having to rely on a web interface to create the playlist every time. -- CrankyTom -

[slim] Mediafly "Play Channel" not working correctly

2011-03-01 Thread raglencross
I can't get a Mediafly channel to play more than the 1st item in the playlist on a SB3 using 7.5.3. I have tried to do this using SBS on 3 different computers with 3 different operating systems and as many browsers (IE, Chrome, and Safari). Also, the channel play function does the same thing whe

Re: [slim] Squeezebox affecting broadband usage..?

2011-03-01 Thread bonze
If you kill SqueezePlayer from a desktop without hitting pause or stop first, then the stream will continue. Maybe SBS still thinks the player is out there Not sure if the same applies to a 'hardware' player if you switch off the mains without pressing power-off first. -- bonze TranquilP

[slim] Squeezebox classic problem since latest upgrade

2011-03-01 Thread mattbrowne
Hi, I recenetly upgraded the squeezebox server to the latest version which I think updated the firmware on my squeezebox classic which has made the text scrolling much smoother. But I've come across a problem, I use a linux box to host the server which I send to sleep overnight using rtcwake and

Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !

2011-03-01 Thread guidof
bluegaspode;614381 Wrote: > so don't try to hit the small icon exactly, there is plenty of room to > the left which should work as well. Indeed! If one aims to the left of the left icon it does work better. It probably would work even better if there were an actual button the size of the targ

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-01 Thread Phil Leigh
Soulkeeper;614632 Wrote: > Bit depth is not all about quiet parts, and sampling frequency is not > all about high frequencies. The point is that the resolution increases, > AFAIU. For bit depth yes, but not for sampling frequency. You can capture higher frequencies, however the lower frequencies

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-01 Thread Pneumonic
So called "hi rez" offerings beyond 16/44 are nothing but marketing ploys concocted by audio firms as they look to penetrate another entirely new (read profitable) market segment, extracting hard earned money from gullible consumers in the process. Why shouldn't Apple be able to profit similarly

Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...

2011-03-01 Thread maggior
iPhone;614684 Wrote: > > The fact that anybody can get a used iTouch on EBAY and buy iPeng for > it and have a killer remote and an iPod, makes it hard for any new > Logitech product to be a Squeezebox remote control. You've hit the nail on the head as far as I'm concerned. This is why a new C

Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...

2011-03-01 Thread erland
toby10;614642 Wrote: > > 1. Marketing: try finding a SB at a retailer > Actually this has improved a lot where I live. Back in 2006 I think there were one (or maybe a few) online store in Sweden where it was possible to get a Squeezebox, today I can get one from one of the bigger electronic s

Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...

2011-03-01 Thread oktup
Maybe they're waiting for the technology to catch up. The killer feature is surely a TinySBS that can happily run a 'normal' setup, ie supporting several devices and a decent sized library. Maybe the fierce competition in mobile phones is bringing the necessary hardware to an SB-friendly price lev

Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...

2011-03-01 Thread iPhone
As I have typed often on this Forum, I would love to see a Duet Remote mated with a Harmony 1000. The problem would be getting it to a price point that more then 10 Squeezebox Fanatics would be willing to pay. The fact that anybody can get a used iTouch on EBAY and buy iPeng for it and have a kil

Re: [slim] RJ45 (or WiFi) "SoundCard" does it exist ?

2011-03-01 Thread Phil Leigh
finnbrodersen;614680 Wrote: > after some thinking I will look more into > > a) http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/usb-extender-cat5.html > b) http://www.cambridgeaudio.com/summary.php?PID=320&Title=Summary > > when (and if) spotify is released here in Denmark Those usb/ethernet adaptor

Re: [slim] RJ45 (or WiFi) "SoundCard" does it exist ?

2011-03-01 Thread finnbrodersen
after some thinking I will look more into a) http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/usb-extender-cat5.html b) http://www.cambridgeaudio.com/summary.php?PID=320&Title=Summary when (and if) spotify is released here in Denmark -- finnbrodersen Some version of SBServer running on a HP EX490

Re: [slim] Squeezebox affecting broadband usage..?

2011-03-01 Thread phildeeze
Downloading a song or Streaming a song is nearly the same. If you use a service like rhapsody which streams the mp3 to your computer you will still be using memory. Downloading a song means it is saved on your hardrive, but streaming a song is nearly the same because the information still has to b

[slim] Can SB sort albums by release date?

2011-03-01 Thread stevied123
Hello all :) My SB devices sort albums by an artist by year, but then alphabetically (that is, all 1983 albums alphabetically, then 1984 alphabetically etc.). Is there some settings adjustment I can make so that they are sorted completely by date (as long as I've tagged with day/month)? Many tha

Re: [slim] No more free last.fm on the SB!

2011-03-01 Thread phildeeze
As mentioned above I also feel the quality has been slipping. This may be a lack of funds effecting the amount of time put into the station. I would say they will have to up their quality if they think they will be charging. I certainly wont be paying for low quality service so I hope they use our

Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...

2011-03-01 Thread phildeeze
I think Logitech could greatly increase the sales of all their devices if they built a better remote for the units not including the Duet of course. Now I know you can buy the Duet remote and pair it will the other units but I think they need to build a better standard remote. The line of site jus

Re: [slim] track stops after 7 seconds with wireless connection

2011-03-01 Thread garym
sounds like this was a network issue rather than a SB player issue and you resolved by resetting the network stuff. But in any case, see this link for lots of info/documentation: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Main_Page -- garym --

[slim] track stops after 7 seconds with wireless connection

2011-03-01 Thread srsanford
I had problems with a Logitech Squeezebox Boom: it would work correctly with wired network cable,(from latest version of Squeezebox server), then correctly from Vortexbox) initially work correctly with wireless network, but eventually stopped playing each track after 7 seconds, and rebuffered, lo

Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...

2011-03-01 Thread Pat Farrell
On 03/01/2011 05:10 AM, JJZolx wrote: > A better Controller, along the lines of the Sonos Controller 200, might > make some sense, but I'm not sure how much of an impact it would make > as a product. Nobody is going to buy a $200 Controller for a $130 > Radio/Alarm Clock. I would love to see a to

Re: [slim] RJ45 (or WiFi) "SoundCard" does it exist ?

2011-03-01 Thread Phil Leigh
finnbrodersen;614641 Wrote: > 20m USB :-) > > maybe I should give it a try I've got several 5m USB extension cables connected together... Works OK for my mouse,keyboard and usb hard drives -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd

Re: [slim] RJ45 (or WiFi) "SoundCard" does it exist ?

2011-03-01 Thread bpa
If ordinary USB cable doesn't work - you can try a cable that regenerates the signal such as http://www.trendnet.com/products/proddetail.asp?prod=170_TU2-EX5&cat=32 -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/membe

Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...

2011-03-01 Thread Rick B.
erland;614473 Wrote: > > > - A harmony remote with two way Squeezebox communication, basically a > Harmony remote with hard buttons but also with integrated Controller > functionality. > - I believe this could be a potential success, it would also be a way > to both get the Harmony technology

Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...

2011-03-01 Thread toby10
erland;614473 Wrote: > ... > HARMONY CONTROLLER: > - A harmony remote with two way Squeezebox communication, basically a > Harmony remote with hard buttons but also with integrated Controller > functionality. > - I believe this could be a potential success, it would also be a way > to bo

Re: [slim] RJ45 (or WiFi) "SoundCard" does it exist ?

2011-03-01 Thread finnbrodersen
20m USB :-) maybe I should give it a try -- finnbrodersen Some version of SBServer running on a HP EX490 home server SBReceiver --> NAD C162+C272 --> DALI IKON 6 (let's call it MidFi) finnbrodersen's Profile: http://foru

Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Playback comes to iPeng

2011-03-01 Thread Line
pippin;612402 Wrote: > That doesn't help me a bit. > We know how to do gapless, I believe, it's just work. > Squeezeslave doesn't help me. I mean: the source code is open and I can > look up everything I want as I can do on SqueezeSlave. However, we can't > use anything from SqueezeSlave since it

Re: [slim] RJ45 (or WiFi) "SoundCard" does it exist ?

2011-03-01 Thread Phil Leigh
I'm running 20 metre USB cables with no problems at all... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF x-dacv3/x-10/x-psu(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1

Re: [slim] RJ45 (or WiFi) "SoundCard" does it exist ?

2011-03-01 Thread bernt
http://www.audiopro.com/products/wf100-usb-dongles/536/ -- bernt 'LastFM' (http://www.last.fm/user/ottovonkopp/) SB3, SB BOOM - Vortexbox@HP SFF iPod Touch\iPeng bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?u

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-01 Thread Soulkeeper
Bit depth is not all about quiet parts, and sampling frequency is not all about high frequencies. The point is that the resolution increases, AFAIU. -- Soulkeeper -that is not dead which can eternal lie. and with strange aeons even death may die.- touch + duet + boom + radio / wrt160n/dd-wrt /

Re: [slim] RJ45 (or WiFi) "SoundCard" does it exist ?

2011-03-01 Thread Soulkeeper
Both Ethernet and WiFi have significant latency, so you will not find any normal sound cards with this capability. The Squeezebox (in all its permutations) is the closest you get. Good for music and radio, but you don't want to use it for an application that requires perfect synchronization betwee

Re: [slim] Moderator Wiki

2011-03-01 Thread Soulkeeper
'User:Whittaker' (http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Special:Contributions/Whittaker) -- Soulkeeper -that is not dead which can eternal lie. and with strange aeons even death may die.- touch + duet + boom + radio / wrt160n/dd-wrt / sbs 7.5.1 or higher/win7(32b)/avira free --

Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...

2011-03-01 Thread JJZolx
A better Controller, along the lines of the Sonos Controller 200, might make some sense, but I'm not sure how much of an impact it would make as a product. Nobody is going to buy a $200 Controller for a $130 Radio/Alarm Clock. Logitech long ago decided to aim low with the Squeezebox product line

Re: [slim] SoftSquueeze

2011-03-01 Thread bpa
ovonrein;614622 Wrote: > I did look at SoftPlay once before. It is some App for a controller I > do not have. I got the impression at the time that there is supposed > to be some s/w emulator for that controller for the PC, and that > perhaps the idea would be to run that and have the App on th

Re: [slim] Support for Moodagent

2011-03-01 Thread Nikhil
MusicIP still works very well with Squeezebox Server, and you can add the Spicefly Sugarcube Plugin to enhance it even further. Moodagent still does not have a Desktop app (they have a profiler, but that's no use on it's own). They would need a proper desktop app (which they said was coming a whi

[slim] Favourite alarm

2011-03-01 Thread ovonrein
I was programming the alarm on a SB2 player via the browser. Set up all the parameters, then asks what sound I'd like. You get a long drop down: Current Playlist, Favourites, Playlists, ... So I select BBC6 from my Favourites. The alarm fails and rolls over to the backup beeps. Looking at wh

Re: [slim] SoftSquueeze

2011-03-01 Thread ovonrein
Thanks for this. I investigated some more and it was my firewall objecting to some upgraded component. So SoftSqueeze is well again. I did look at SoftPlay once before. It is some App for a controller I do not have. I got the impression at the time that there is supposed to be some s/w emulat

Re: [slim] No more free last.fm on the SB!

2011-03-01 Thread Blisteringblue
treefern;613598 Wrote: > but suggest UK people select dollars as cheaper and works out at £1.92 > through Paypal and it was accepted. Interesting, we normally get stung with the exchange rate. I might think about it for that amount especially if it's paypal too, there is always something in my