Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

2012-09-29 Thread bluegaspode

SqueezePlayers pricing does have 50% discount now as well (2€ / $2,49),
available only this weekend.



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Re: [slim] DSBridge - A simpler way to stream Spotify

2012-09-29 Thread jimbobvfr400

On mine if I stop playing the radio station on my Squeezebox then
playback reverts to the PC automagicically. This is the same behaviour
on my old Roku Sound bridge as well. 

Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk 2



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread Mnyb

I did wright a lengthy comment but that is not visible ? maybe he did
not like it .

I basically asked for real info like a time frame ?



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Re: [slim] Squeezeboxes up for grabs

2012-09-29 Thread realcodeguy

Instead of the back and forth negotiations with everyone, I'll just say
that the price for any of the items is $150 + actual shipping to your
zip code.  I am located in the US and would prefer to not ship
internationally.  One Boom has been sold.  That leaves 2 Booms, the
Touch and the Duet.



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread bluegaspode

With high probability its moderated and takes some time before getting
visible. On my Blog it can also take up to 24 hours to react, too much
spamming otherwise



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Re: [slim] SqueezePlay for Windows with ASIO, DirectSound, WASAPI and WDMKS device support.

2012-09-29 Thread psketch

Hi Ralphy

Any chance of a build of Squeezeplay for RaspberryPi?  I'm happily
running your build of squeezeslave on the Pi - it's running great, but
I'd love to give Squeezeplay a try.

Ta

pete S



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread Mnyb

bluegaspode wrote: 
 With high probability its moderated and takes some time before getting
 visible. On my Blog it can also take up to 24 hours to react, too much
 spamming otherwise

I saw that gah , now I already spammed it :-/ with two overlapping
responses awaiting moderation .



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread gharris999

routehero wrote: 
 For perspective, there are around 200 servers dedicated to
 mysqueezebox.com, split between the US and Europe.
 
 Suffice to say, they do need TLC and they don't run on hope.
200 servers?  Isn't mysb.com on an Amazon cloud...and has been for some
time?

Code:


  TraceRoute mysqeezebox.com (23.23.210.22)
  58 bytes from 23.23.210.22: time=1613 ms
  1  0  0 192.168.0.1 router
  2  0  0 192.168.2.1 zywall
  3   1857   1857 10.0.128.1
  4   1373   -484 10.246.20.17
  5  *  * timed out
  6   1448 75 10.246.30.1
  7   1512 64 10.246.100.2
  8   1381   -131 10.246.110.2
  9863   -518 72.164.128.69   chy-edge-04.inet.qwest.net
  10   1363500 205.171.158.102 chy-core-02.inet.qwest.net
  11  *  * timed out
  12  *  * timed out
  13  0  -1363 0.0.0.0 timed out
  14   1415   1415 72.165.86.74
  15   1470 55 205.251.245.21
  16   1409-61 205.251.245.41
  17  *  * timed out
  18  *  * timed out
  19  *  * timed out
  20   1437 28 216.182.224.199
  21   1401-36 100.64.13.8
  22  *  * timed out
  23  *  * timed out
  24  *  * timed out
  25  *  * timed out
  26   2106705 23.23.210.22ec2-23-23-210-22.compute-1.amazonaws.com
  




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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread pippin

200 VMs on Amazon?



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread Mnyb

routehero wrote: 
 That's a bit pessimistic.
 
 Rest assured, there are no plans to shut down the forums, wiki, bug
 tracker, git, etc.
 
 
 
 That certainly depends on your definition of actively support.
 
 For perspective, there are around 200 servers dedicated to
 mysqueezebox.com, split between the US and Europe.
 
 Suffice to say, they do need TLC and they don't run on hope.

Active support = for example continue to maintain existing functionality
on mysqueezebox.com ,things like services changes all the time.
So just let a fully functional radio service sit there will break it
shortly as the service provider will do some changes , so with current
policy the servers may be up and running but most actual services
offered will be broken eventually.
But Logitech probably interprets Active support = keep the servers
running exactly as they are .

why I think this actual policy ? the LMA service (broken for 7 months )
is fixed on UESR.com but the solution is not backported to
mysqueezebox.com this must be some decision to *not* do that  . and it
appears to be some whinging regarding other services to so it's starting
to crumble right now .



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread gharris999

pippin wrote: 
 200 VMs on Amazon?
Yes, but no doubt there is a secure Logitech monitoring site, buried
under a Swiss alp and accessible only by keycard, biometric scans and a
challenge / response from the armed guards where you *have* to know
today's password.  Once inside (and after you've descended the 1000
meters down the mag-lev elevator to the war room) you'll see the 200
round-the-clock dedicated Logitech administrators, each one assigned to
monitor a specific VM.  Because the work is SO exacting, no one
administrator is on duty longer than 2 hours at a time.  The off-duty
administrators are encouraged to utilize the the vast recreational
facilities (including ping pong, on-going mahjong tournaments) to
decompress, relax and prepare for their next shift.  In order to provide
the quality of service that www.mysqueezebox.com is famous for, more
than 1000 administrators are present at the secret facility at any given
time.

It's the VAST expense of providing this top-notch streaming service that
explains why the mysqueezebox.com budget occupies more than 60% of
Logitech's CEO's  CFO's time and why the mysqueezebox.com daily
briefing is the *first* item on their agenda when they arrive at the
office in the morning (on those days where they haven't already answered
the dedicated mysqueezebox.com red phone at 2AM.)



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread Mnyb

gharris999 wrote: 
 Yes, but no doubt there is a secure Logitech monitoring site, buried
 under a Swiss alp and accessible only by keycard, biometric scans and a
 challenge / response from the armed guards where you *have* to know
 today's password.  Once inside (and after you've descended the 1000
 meters down the mag-lev elevator to the war room) you'll see the 200
 round-the-clock dedicated Logitech administrators, each one assigned to
 monitor a specific VM.  Because the work is SO exacting, no one
 administrator is on duty longer than 2 hours at a time.  The off-duty
 administrators are encouraged to utilize the the vast recreational
 facilities (including ping pong, on-going mahjong tournaments) to
 decompress, relax and prepare for their next shift.  In order to provide
 the quality of service that www.mysqueezebox.com is famous for, more
 than 1000 administrators are present at the secret facility at any given
 time.
 
 It's the VAST expense of providing this top-notch streaming service that
 explains why the mysqueezebox.com budget occupies more than 60% of
 Logitech's CEO's  CFO's time and why the mysqueezebox.com daily
 briefing is the *first* item on their agenda when they arrive at the
 office in the morning (on those days where they haven't already answered
 the dedicated mysqueezebox.com red phone at 2AM.)

So the talk of Large Hadron Collider is a cover up :) I'm playing Portal
2 now what a coincidence (speaking of large cavernous hidden
installations  )



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread gharris999

Mnyb wrote: 
 So the talk of Large Hadron Collider is a cover up :)I would have thought 
 that was patently obvious to everyone.  Haven't you
ever noticed that Large Hadron Collider is just an anagram for Logi
Hardcore All Nerd?



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

2012-09-29 Thread wewen

Great guys :) Almost sorry to have these must have apps already :D

Anything new on the horizon?



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Re: [slim] Squeezeboxes up for grabs

2012-09-29 Thread realcodeguy

The Touch and two Booms are sold.  

That leaves one Boom and the Duet.  

I've been committing to $15 shipping in the US so $165 for any of the
remaining two items.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

2012-09-29 Thread wewen

Sorry double post...



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Re: [slim] Squeezeboxes up for grabs

2012-09-29 Thread realcodeguy

Just to confirm, I have received payment for the Touch and two Booms.  I
have many people asking about the last Boom.  I will not ship
international and I will not hold it for you.  The first person to send
a Paypal payment today to realcode...@gmail.com for $165 gets it.  If
you are too late I will issue a refund.  I will ship all items first
thing Monday morning.  I know you will enjoy your Squeezeboxes as much
as I have.

Thanks,

P.S.  I have still 5 radios so I'm not going away :-)



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread routehero

Mnyb wrote: 
 Active support = for example continue to maintain existing functionality
 on mysqueezebox.com ,things like services changes all the time.
 So just let a fully functional radio service sit there will break it
 shortly as the service provider will do some changes , so with current
 policy the servers may be up and running but most actual services
 offered will be broken eventually.
 But Logitech probably interprets Active support = keep the servers
 running exactly as they are .
 
 why I think this actual policy ? the LMA service (broken for 7 months )
 is fixed on UESR.com but the solution is not backported to
 mysqueezebox.com this must be some decision to *not* do that  . and it
 appears to be some whinging regarding other services to so it's starting
 to crumble right now .

An imagined policy is just that, imagined.

If you are having issues, I'd call in to the support team or make your
voice heard at www.logitech.com/ithink.



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Re: [slim] SqueezePlay for Windows with ASIO, DirectSound, WASAPI and WDMKS device support.

2012-09-29 Thread sbp

psketch wrote: 
 Hi Ralphy
 Any chance of a build of Squeezeplay for RaspberryPi?  I'm happily
 running your build of squeezeslave on the Pi - it's running great, but
 I'd love to give Squeezeplay a try.
 

Hi psketch

If you read a few responses above (post no 4) in this tread, you will
see that Ralphy already answered this question - and there is no plan at
the moment for an ARM version of SqueezePlay.



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread Mnyb

routehero wrote: 
 An imagined policy is just that, imagined.
 
 If you are having issues, I'd call in to the support team or make your
 voice heard at www.logitech.com/ithink.

That issue is already taken care off

The LMA issue are in the bugzilla since 6 months unassigned  30 votes
.

It is simply not possible that Logitech are unaware of that issue .
But I'll post at the suggested link anyway .

I'll be happy to be proven to imagine things I considerer me proven
wrong when this issue is fixed .

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17939 with 31 votes
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17994 and a duplicate bug
with 16 votes



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread Mnyb

routehero wrote: 
 An imagined policy is just that, imagined.
 
 If you are having issues, I'd call in to the support team or make your
 voice heard at www.logitech.com/ithink.

That link does not work it is not possible to select the rigth product
category and the right product ?



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread garym

routehero wrote: 
 An imagined policy is just that, imagined.
 
 If you are having issues, I'd call in to the support team or make your
 voice heard at www.logitech.com/ithink.

Are you kidding? Wow! The Live Music Archive (LMA) app has been broken
for over six months (and evidently the fix is simply editing the app
contents to refer to archive.org rather than www.archive.org).  The
bug has long been confirmed by votes in bugs.slimdevices.com, the
official bug reporting mechanism.  And Logitech employees have confirmed
that they know this is broken over at the official logitech forums in
posts.  And the problem has even been fixed for the UESmartRadio.

I just went to the www.logitech.com/ithink site to enter this
information (yet again informing logitech of this issue).  Interesting
that there is no dropdown item that relates to audio, network music
players, squeezebox players, UESmartRadio, etc.  So I had to use other
as the product category.

This is not the case of a random person whining on a forum about a (non)
problem.  This is a well documented but evidently very minor problem.
You'd think we users were asking for the moon. I'm honestly not sure
what else we users can do to address the broken LMA app short of camping
out at Logitech headquarters in Switzerland. Logitech is well aware of
the problem but we get no indication of if and when it will be fixed.



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread routehero

garym wrote: 
 
 This is not the case of a random person whining on a forum about a (non)
 problem.  This is a well documented but evidently very minor problem.
 You'd think we users were asking for the moon. I'm honestly not sure
 what else we users can do to address the broken LMA app short of camping
 out at Logitech headquarters in Switzerland. Logitech is well aware of
 the problem but we get no indication of if and when it will be fixed.

Logitech employs shy of 4000 people.  Although you might imagine that
Logitech knows about this problem, any sizeable bureaucracy requires
constant badgering in order to have your message heard.

The frequency of your bug reports and targets are fairly important.  The
ithink program will feed in to people that are in different decision
making trees than Bugzilla.  The same is true when you feed in
complaints through customer support; it's a different tree.

The number of users who post here and on Bugzilla is less than 0.001% of
the number of SB units connected to mysb.com.

The more you can get your message out, the more likely you are to have
some results.  Especially when the complaints reach the top of the food
chain.

Objects move downhill easier than uphill.



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread Mnyb

garym wrote: 
 Are you kidding? Wow! The Live Music Archive (LMA) app has been broken
 for over six months (and evidently the fix is simply editing the app
 contents to refer to archive.org rather than www.archive.org).  The
 bug has long been confirmed by votes in bugs.slimdevices.com, the
 official bug reporting mechanism.  And Logitech employees have confirmed
 that they know this is broken over at the official logitech forums in
 posts.  And the problem has even been fixed for the UESmartRadio.
 
 I just went to the www.logitech.com/ithink site to enter this
 information (yet again informing logitech of this issue).  Interesting
 that there is no dropdown item that relates to audio, network music
 players, squeezebox players, UESmartRadio, etc.  So I had to use other
 as the product category.
 
 This is not the case of a random person whining on a forum about a (non)
 problem.  This is a well documented but evidently very minor problem.
 You'd think we users were asking for the moon. I'm honestly not sure
 what else we users can do to address the broken LMA app short of camping
 out at Logitech headquarters in Switzerland. Logitech is well aware of
 the problem but we get no indication of if and when it will be fixed.

Do you ski ? I haven’t for 20 odd years, time learn that again :) it's
autumn now, in a couple of moths it's season



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread garym

Mnyb wrote: 
 Do you ski ? I haven’t for 20 odd years, time learn that again :) it's
 autumn now, in a couple of moths it's season

No,but may need to learn. On the other hand, old bones take a long time
to heal.



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread garym

routehero wrote: 
 Logitech employs shy of 4000 people.  Although you might imagine that
 Logitech knows about this problem, any sizeable bureaucracy requires
 constant badgering in order to have your message heard.
 
 The frequency of your bug reports and targets are fairly important.  The
 ithink program will feed in to people that are in different decision
 making trees than Bugzilla.  The same is true when you feed in
 complaints through customer support; it's a different tree.
 
 The number of users who post here and on Bugzilla is less than 0.001% of
 the number of SB units connected to mysb.com.
 
 The more you can get your message out, the more likely you are to have
 some results.  Especially when the complaints reach the top of the food
 chain.
 
 Objects move downhill easier than uphill.

Well I've followed your suggestions. But I have to say it is
disheartening to be told that the long-time official Logitech mechanism
for reporting and tracking squeezebox bugs is merely something that may
or may not get lost in a sea of 4,000 employees. 

I understand you are only trying to help here and don't take this as a
personal attack (it is more a comment on the apparent lack of controls
in place at Logitech).  I work in a complex organization with far more
than 4,000 employees. If our answers to questions were along the lines
of sorry, we are big and don't have any way of following the protocols
that we ourselves actually created then some of those 4,000 would be
replaced post haste.



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread Mnyb

garym wrote: 
 Well I've followed your suggestions. But I have to say it is
 disheartening to be told that the long-time official Logitech mechanism
 for reporting and tracking squeezebox bugs is merely something that may
 or may not get lost in a sea of 4,000 employees. 
 
 I understand you are only trying to help here and don't take this as a
 personal attack (it is more a comment on the apparent lack of controls
 in place at Logitech).  I work in a complex organization with far more
 than 4,000 employees. If our answers to questions were along the lines
 of sorry, we are big and don't have any way of following the protocols
 that we ourselves actually created then some of those 4,000 would be
 replaced post haste.

What category did you choose I could not figure anything that fitted the
subject so I gave up .

The bugzilla mechanism is more well suited very granular choices , you
can be very precise when filing your issue ?

This think function did it produce any email response with some kind
of case number, can you log in to your case and follow up ?



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread garym

Mnyb wrote: 
 What category did you choose I could not figure anything that fitted the
 subject so I gave up .
 
 The bugzilla mechanism is more well suited very granular choices , you
 can be very precise when filing your issue ?
 
 This think function did it produce any email response with some kind
 of case number, can you log in to your case and follow up ?

Other or something like that. No email followup yet. I could describe
the problem in the site with up to 500 characters, but mostly I had to
answer typical marketing questions (how did you learn about our product
or would you recommend to a friend).



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread gharris999

routehero wrote: 
 I'm dumbfounded that there aren't more Logitech employees engaging with
 this community when the responses are like this.Oops.  Apparently, I hit a 
 nerve.  Sorry.



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Re: [slim] mysqueezebox.com account name

2012-09-29 Thread rambo89

mherger wrote: 
  Yes, that is correct, I have 3 Touches and 2 Booms and I am thinking
  that I would have to reset each one, then go into my squeezebox.com
 and
  set up my Apps and app passwords again.  Same in LMS
 
 Don't worry: you'd have to login to mysb.com (the web site) again, and 
 
 change the account information in LMS. No need to touch the players.
 
  But like i said if there is no downside to an expired email address I
  will leave well enough alone.
 
 People tend to forget things they don't use any more. At some point you 
 
 _might_ need it for whatever reason and not be able to recover the  
 password or something. I'd rather change it today...
 
 -- 
 
 Michael

Michael,

You are right all I had to do is change the email address in
mysqueezebox.com account screen, received an activation email, clicked
on the link and everything is good to go.
All my devices were updated automatically - 3 Touches and 2 Booms. 
Easy.

Roger



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread dasmueller

gharris999 wrote: 
 Oops.  Apparently, I hit a nerve.  Sorry.

So you tried to provide a bit of humor, no problem.  Sometimes we could
use more here.  We are sometimes encouraged to use the official Logitech
forums but unfortunately there do not seem to be many responses in that
venue either. Perhaps because it's the wknd or maybe they are on
holiday.  What else can one do sometimes but vent.



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread JJZolx

routehero wrote: 
 For perspective, there are around 200 servers dedicated to
 mysqueezebox.com, split between the US and Europe.
 
 Suffice to say, they do need TLC and they don't run on hope.

In light of their history of reliability, I'd say that's a given.



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-29 Thread Mnyb

Humor is much better than the other response you can get when saying
something wrong/silly or stupid.

Are routerhero completely unaware of the slow death the whole squeezebox
ecosystem has been put trough for years ?

No aspect of the system had the proper maintanence for years . ( at
least no aspect that can be directly observed by a user ).

Speaking of hitting nerves, a silly claim about how good the systems
works , when it can be observed that's it's not.

And then someone responds with a joke instead being angry ? That's quite
ok is it not.



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Re: [slim] Squeezeplay Mountain Lion Install

2012-09-29 Thread dborod

ralphy wrote: 
 I've created an OSX build of squeezeplay with the ability to set the
 output device and max sample rate.

Thank-you very much.



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Re: [slim] DSBridge - A simpler way to stream Spotify

2012-09-29 Thread alavarre1

chp wrote: 
 I thought I'd share the fruits of my labour here... I have written a
 small drop-in wrapper utility that will allow you to stream among other
 things Spotify (anything that uses the first DirectSound API basically)
 as MP3 (with metadata).
 
 Surely, you are a genius. Well done.
 
 You already know this, but just for your resumé:
 
 I did this in a heartbeat under Windows XP Pro under a Virtualbox under
 openSUSE 12.2.
 
 Details at 
 
 http://genietvanhetleven.blogspot.com/2012/09/streaming-spotify-to-squeezeboxserver.html
 
 Thank you so much.
 
 Absolutely brilliant.
 
 Well done.
 
 Cheers, Andy



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