Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-10-06 Thread AndreE
Mnyb wrote: And what about a good headphone output in some model ? The workaround would be to go for the headphone amplifier – they are available in most music stores and rather not inexpensive with very solid quality.

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-10-06 Thread Mnyb
AndreE wrote: The workaround would be to go for the headphone amplifier – they are available in most music stores and rather not inexpensive with very solid quality. I have a small headphone amp :) now it's tempting to set up the spare Touch for headphones hmm .

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-10-05 Thread AndreE
JJZolx wrote: What are you talking about? Did I miss an announcement, or is this you speculating about how Logitech is going to gouge customers in the future? It is just thoughts shared based on the experience how the portfolio planning happened at big companies :-) As Logitech is a public

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-10-05 Thread mps
Sorry if this is a naive question, but would it be possible to modify SBS to get its stream using the UE Smart Radio server rather than mysb.com? If so, should this be our ask from Logitech? Mike mps's Profile:

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-10-05 Thread toby10
mps wrote: Sorry if this is a naive question, but would it be possible to modify SBS to get its stream using the UE Smart Radio server rather than mysb.com? If so, should this be our ask from Logitech? Mike Unknown. But it could be the saving grace for SqueezeBox players going forward.

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-10-05 Thread Mnyb
moos_man wrote: Hey Guys, I would like to understand how big/active/passionate the Squeeze community really is at this point, and how much real interest there is in keeping things going, and growing, int the future. I'm not talking about keeping this on life support (as per now), but in

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-10-04 Thread AndreE
moos_man wrote: Hey Guys, I would like to understand how big/active/passionate the Squeeze community really is at this point, and how much real interest there is in keeping things going, and growing, int the future. I'm not talking about keeping this on life support (as per now), but in

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-10-04 Thread JJZolx
AndreE wrote: Logitech is pursuing two monetization streams: devices sales and content usage based - this is a major reason why all new devices are connected to Logitech servers. Content usage based model is not new and already well developed by e.g. Apple, followed by Google, Amazon, Sony

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-10-03 Thread moos_man
Hey Guys, I would like to understand how big/active/passionate the Squeeze community really is at this point, and how much real interest there is in keeping things going, and growing, int the future. I'm not talking about keeping this on life support (as per now), but in terms of new products

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-10-03 Thread garym
moos_man wrote: Hey Guys, I would like to understand how big/active/passionate the Squeeze community really is at this point, and how much real interest there is in keeping things going, and growing, int the future. I'm not talking about keeping this on life support (as per now), but in

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-09-19 Thread DaveWr
erland wrote: No reason to speculate, the future will show us what will happen, nobody knows at the moment, not even people within Logitech. There is probably more likely that Logitech will spend maintenance resources to implement API changes for premium services like Spotify, Pandora,

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-09-19 Thread alfista
DaveWr wrote: There is every reason to speculate, we have no official communication of support status from Logitech. One reason might be that the future support of SB depends on the success of UE Radio which for obvious reasons is unknown. DaveWr wrote: As operating systems change, updates

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-09-19 Thread DaveWr
alfista wrote: Blaming the situation on external developers it quite a stretch, and for that matter the most commonly used software players was released by Slim Devices/Logitech them selves, if anything I beleive the external developers have helped hardware sales. But I do agree the UE

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-09-19 Thread alfista
DaveWr wrote: I don't blame the situation on external developers but the strategy (or lack of) from Logitech. There was no protection of Logitech value, consequently no business case. As soon as derivation of players appeared on third party software products, there was an inevitable issue

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-09-19 Thread DaveWr
There were no software players with full synchronisation ability. Squeezplay started the issues. Reverse engineered Slim products were a significantly lesser threat. DaveWr's Profile:

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-09-19 Thread epoch1970
DaveWr wrote: There were no software players with full synchronisation ability. Squeezplay started the issues. Reverse engineered Slim products were a significantly lesser threat. Have you really tried full synchronisation with software players ? For more than 5 minutes ? With more than 2

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-09-19 Thread DaveWr
epoch1970 wrote: Have you really tried full synchronisation with software players ? For more than 5 minutes ? With more than 2 players ? (Besides, I think Squeezeplay belongs to Logi and is well enough protected.) No I only own two software players with sync capability, but they work fine

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-09-19 Thread erland
DaveWr wrote: I don't blame the situation on external developers but the strategy (or lack of) from Logitech. There was no protection of Logitech value, consequently no business case. As soon as derivation of players appeared on third party software products, there was an inevitable issue

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-09-19 Thread alfista
DaveWr wrote: No I only own two software players with sync capability, but they work fine for hours. I believe hit and miss might appropriately describe the current situation for syncing SW players, and I'm not sure SqueezePlay is significantly better than the others in that respect. DaveWr

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-09-19 Thread DaveWr
erland wrote: An iPod Touch + good docking station is definitely more expensive and more ugly than a Squeezebox Radio, so it's not even a cheap solution, unless you already have a spare iPod Touch to always have in the docking station. Don't agree, at least the iPod system can be

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-09-19 Thread epoch1970
erland wrote: An iPod Touch + good docking station is definitely more expensive and more ugly than a Squeezebox Radio, so it's not even a cheap solution, unless you already have a spare iPod Touch to always have in the docking station. I agree with all you said, but this… Frankly the Radio

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-09-19 Thread erland
DaveWr wrote: Don't agree, at least the iPod system can be connected to a quality stereo system, it will also have App support for the majority if not all online music services. Which works great unless you want a remote, because it's when you want to remote control all these apps it's

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-09-19 Thread DaveWr
erland wrote: Which works great unless you want a remote, because it's when you want to remote control all these apps it's starting to get complicated and Squeezebox have a gigantic advantage. Another thing is synchronized playback between multiple devices, try to accomplish that with an

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-09-19 Thread erland
DaveWr wrote: However one of the users has been writing a server, which allows a great approach to flexible music library searching, Minimserver is definitely one of the better approaches to music library searching. I think it is significantly better than LMS. It allows loads of variety on

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-09-18 Thread kh6idf
This is a problem for me also. I use the SB3 exclusively to access Pandora, Rhapsody and Internet radio. None of these would be available if mysqueezebox.com went away. kh6idf's Profile:

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-09-18 Thread mherger
kh6idf wrote: This is a problem for me also. I use the SB3 exclusively to access Pandora, Rhapsody and Internet radio. None of these would be available if mysqueezebox.com went away. Because you are not alone there are no plans to shut down mysb.com.

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-09-18 Thread gharris999
mherger wrote: Because you are not alone there are no plans to shut down mysb.com. Yeah, but there were no announced plans to EOL the Squeezebox line either. In fact, has there been an official announcement at all? And yet we all know that this has happened. Having no plans to shut down

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-09-18 Thread Mark Miksis
mherger wrote: Because you are not alone there are no plans to shut down mysb.com. I think the real question is what will happen if, for example, Spotify changes their API and updates are needed on the MySB side to keep it active. Will the music services just all fade away one by one as this

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-09-18 Thread erland
gharris999 wrote: Yeah, but there were no announced plans to EOL the Squeezebox line either. In fact, has there been an official announcement at all? And yet we all know that this has happened. This is the most official I've found:

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-09-18 Thread erland
Mark Miksis wrote: I think the real question is what will happen if, for example, Spotify changes their API and updates are needed on the MySB side to keep it active. Will the music services just all fade away one by one as this happens? LMA has already suffered this fate... No reason to

[slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

2012-09-08 Thread ARTMU
I am trying to figure out what the Logitech is planning to do with all of us who are using Squeezeboxes and are paying for services like Spotify, MOG, premium Pandora, Rhapsody etc. Logic would suggest that Logitech was/is receiving some profits from these companies for allowing them to stream