Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?

2011-09-07 Thread bobkoure
Ryssen;645386 Wrote: > Doesn´t the use of RG comparable with turning down (or up) a digital > volume control,you lose resolution? A digital volume control is down only. Loss of resolution depends on how far down the control is set. There's been a lot of discussion about this on this forum over th

Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?

2011-09-02 Thread firedog
I added tranck and album gain tags to all my files b/c I often listen in random mode and got tired of constantly adjusting the volume. In general, using the "smart gain" setting seems to work fairly well. However, I find that for some tracks (source is very loud?) I still fill the need to turn th

Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?

2011-07-30 Thread MrSinatra
Ryssen;645386 Wrote: > Doesn´t the use of RG comparable with turning down (or up) a digital > volume control,you lose resolution? imo, RG is exactly like turning up or down the gain on an analog amp volume knob, except the gain is applied in the digital realm, and so less distortive. -- MrSin

Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?

2011-07-30 Thread Bytec
I use Foobar2000 to add ReplayGain info and since v1.1.6 ReplayGain scanner uses libebur128 for improved accuracy. I'm quite satisfied with the results. -- Bytec Bytec's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?u

Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?

2011-07-30 Thread Ryssen
Doesn´t the use of RG comparable with turning down (or up) a digital volume control,you lose resolution? -- Ryssen QNAP TS-119Pro,Firmware v3.4.0(0212T),WD Green 2Tb SqueezeBox Duett CS4398-->Lundahl DAC Ryssen's Profile:

Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?

2011-07-29 Thread MrSinatra
here's a pic of the winammp RG implementation. interestingly, along with apply gain, the dropdown also has "normalize" but i don't use that or really know how its different in practice. what winamp does not have, is a smartgain feature, where it uses track or album gain as appropriate as per the

Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?

2011-07-28 Thread Phil Leigh
MrSinatra;644211 Wrote: > ... > ps. i would also like to see a RG "pre-amp" so a user can adjust the > 89db reference level. this is available in winamp. That would be a great enhancement request... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what

Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?

2011-07-28 Thread MrSinatra
i've been using it for several years now, and i find it works pretty well. one thing to look for, is peak values, the forgotten RG tags. using those is how it avoids clipping, and so a track might be played back quieter than it otherwise would be, to avoid the clip. usually not an issue, but if

Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?

2011-07-27 Thread Phil Leigh
servies;643914 Wrote: > Ok, I was under the impression that with the playback volume set to 100% > there was no room for replaygain to make it louder... Just to reiterate, RG tries to make everything the same level (usually 89dB)... and that happens BEFORE the digital volume control - which can

Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?

2011-07-27 Thread servies
Phil Leigh;643888 Wrote: > Nothing bad or odd will happen. The playback volume and the RG tag value > calculations are unrelated. If RG was +8, the track would be rather > quiet, peaking at circa 81dB... so even after RG boost of +8 it will > now be peaking at 89dB... > > RG cannot induce clippi

Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?

2011-07-27 Thread Phil Leigh
servies;643850 Wrote: > What happens if you have your volume set at 100% and the track that's > playing has a replaygain value of (par example) +8 dB Nothing bad or odd will happen. The playback volume and the RG tag value calculations are unrelated. If RG was +8, the track would be rather quiet

Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?

2011-07-27 Thread verypsb
servies;643850 Wrote: > What happens if you have your volume set at 100% and the track that's > playing has a replaygain value of (par example) +8 dB Replay Gain tries to play everything at +89dB. A track would get a +8dB RP value, if the track's normal value is +81dB. So yes, it's best to set y

Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?

2011-07-27 Thread servies
What happens if you have your volume set at 100% and the track that's playing has a replaygain value of (par example) +8 dB -- servies There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't. --

Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?

2011-07-27 Thread Phil Leigh
JJZolx;642715 Wrote: > I've been using ReplayGain consistently for about the past six months. > My library is in Flac and I've added RG tags, both track and album, to > all tracks in the library. > > Typically, for background listening I have a Transporter (living room), > an SB2 (kitchen), and

Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?

2011-07-26 Thread Rick B.
I also think RG works great. From time to time, when I think a song or album is too loud, it is usually because I forgot to apply RG to that album when I obtained it. -- Rick B. Rick B.'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices

Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?

2011-07-25 Thread simbo
JJZolx;642721 Wrote: > The other thing I find about using ReplayGain, even worse than my > disappointment with its effectiveness, is that it makes listening to > internet radio very inconvenient. Virtually every RG tag in my library > is a negative value, with most somewhere between -5 and -7dB.

Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?

2011-07-24 Thread amcluesent
I use album RG on all pop/rock, since that's been afflicted by the 'loudness war' and needs 6/7/8 dB knocked off. Never needed for classical. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?use

Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?

2011-07-23 Thread MeSue
I definitely can tell a difference with replay gain, and I listen to a lot of mixes. Switching to a music service usually requires a volume adjustment or when the playlist switches from an album to a mix. Sounds like you need iPeng for adjusting relative volume on all players at once. ;-) --

Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?

2011-07-23 Thread GeeJay
Could it be the type of music you listen to? Most of my listening is pop, rock, country...the 4 minute song where there isn't a lot of variation in volume within a track. I imagine volume equalization would be much more difficult with classical or jazz. -- GeeJay 2-SB3s, 1-Duet, 1-Touch...an

Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?

2011-07-23 Thread JJZolx
The other thing I find about using ReplayGain, even worse than my disappointment with its effectiveness, is that it makes listening to internet radio very inconvenient. Virtually every RG tag in my library is a negative value, with most somewhere between -5 and -7dB. When internet radio is played

Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?

2011-07-23 Thread GeeJay
Every once in awhile I will hear a track that doesn't sound like it has the right adjustment, but by and large it works well for me. I still remember how often I had to change the volume before I had ReplayGain tags; I don't have anything approaching that problem anymore. I used to go back and ma

[slim] ReplayGain - How effective?

2011-07-23 Thread JJZolx
I've been using ReplayGain consistently for about the past six months. My library is in Flac and I've added RG tags, both track and album, to all tracks in the library. Typically, for background listening I have a Transporter (living room), an SB2 (kitchen), and a Radio (bathroom) kept in sync. A