Re: [slim] Vortexbox questions
Goodsounds;674023 Wrote: If you don't have a technical background, you might be better off sticking to the more consumer-friendly choices - Win or Apple OS. Even some true techies I know stay away from Linux at home, saying there aren't any compelling advantages that warrant the risk of the potential problems (when there are others in the house who need to use it). I did a quick search and found many choices of nettop-type PCs with Windows for up to $100 less than what you've considering, with an internal HD that would hold 3X your current collection. Look for EEE box or Acer for examples, and there are many others. If your collection grows 3X, you can add an external USB drive. They're cheap.if you cannot navigate the average linux distribution today, let alone a purpose built OS like Vortexbox, you're a dumbass and you're part of the system that breeds mediocrity. The statements you make above serve no purpose other than to underline the fact that you've no real knowledge of working in ANY operating system and that you expect others to cater to your lowest common denominator...that of the ill-informed dumbass with serious misgivings about the world around you, which you attempt to disguise by periodically posting snippets designed to make people think you're some kind of educated hotshot whose opinon should prevail over all others. -- kakklank kakklank's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33849 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kakklank;680662 Wrote: if you cannot navigate the average linux distribution today, let alone a purpose built OS like Vortexbox, you're a dumbass and you're part of the system that breeds mediocrity. The statements you make above serve no purpose other than to underline the fact that you've no real knowledge of working in ANY operating system and that you expect others to cater to your lowest common denominator...that of the ill-informed dumbass with serious misgivings about the world around you, which you attempt to disguise by periodically posting snippets designed to make people think you're some kind of educated hotshot whose opinon should prevail over all others. Not sure of the language but Kakklank = jackass -- pski real stereo doesn't just wake the neighbors, it -enrages- them.. It is truly the Golden Age of Wireless pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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donny619;675643 Wrote: Thanks fellas. I've downloaded your iso (1.1, because I your forums indicate some issues with hi-rez?) and am installing it on a Virtual Machine to see if I can get the hookups I like. If it's a go, I'll build the system out, use VB and write up a review in case someone is looking to use VB the way I am =) This was a problem with LMS 7.7.0 but has been resolved. You can now play up to 24/384 through the LMS interface to a VortexBox Player. -- agillis rip, tag, get cover art All you do is insert the CD! http://vortexbox.org agillis Lead Developer VortexBox agillis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21140 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I'm most interested in VortexBox as a SqueezeBox player that supports hi-rez output via spdif. I'd like to keep my SqueezeCenter where it is on the network and use VortexBox on my main system (I can then move my extra SBs elsewhere). I have an old Acer AspireRevo AR1600 I would like to wipe out and install VB on. Is there a list of supported USB sound cards with VB? Thanks -- donny619 donny619's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Vortexbox questions
donny619;675534 Wrote: I'm most interested in VortexBox as a SqueezeBox player that supports hi-rez output via spdif. I'd like to keep my SqueezeCenter where it is on the network and use VortexBox on my main system (I can then move my extra SBs elsewhere). I have an old Acer AspireRevo AR1600 I would like to wipe out and install VB on. Is there a list of supported USB sound cards with VB? Thanks VB is Fedora/Red Hat. The hardware lists don't show any usb sound cards but google is your friend there. p -- pski real stereo doesn't just wake the neighbors, it -enrages- them.. It is truly the Golden Age of Wireless pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I plan to use my existing SqueezeCenter from my network. All my hi-rez material is already loaded and ready to go. VB can stream from a different SB repository correct? ie, essentially use the VB just like a Squeezebox. Thanks! pski;675596 Wrote: VB is Fedora/Red Hat. The hardware lists don't show any usb sound cards but google is your friend there. Hi-rez audio will chew up that 160GB pretty quickly as well. p -- donny619 donny619's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Vortexbox questions
donny619;675630 Wrote: I plan to use my existing SqueezeCenter from my network. All my hi-rez material is already loaded and ready to go. VB can stream from a different SB repository correct? ie, essentially use the VB just like a Squeezebox. Thanks! VB has VB Player, that can stream Hi-Rez, and if this is connected to an audio system, that will work. And VB can have a different instance of SbS/LMS running. You can have several instances of SbS/LMS in your network and choose the ones you want. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.1 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Office: Win7(64) LMS 7.7.1 SqueezePlay Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controllers: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Thanks. Last question is if VB Player is the application that can stream Hi-Rez, can it be controlled by iPeng or the SB Duet Controller? garym;675631 Wrote: VB has VB Player, that can stream Hi-Rez, and if this is connected to an audio system, that will work. And VB can have a different instance of SbS/LMS running. You can have several instances of SbS/LMS in your network and choose the ones you want. -- donny619 donny619's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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donny619;675633 Wrote: Thanks. Last question is if VB Player is the application that can stream Hi-Rez, can it be controlled by iPeng or the SB Duet Controller? hmmm. not sure. I think VB player does show up as a SB Player in the LMS webGUI, so I'd think the answer is yes. But then again, I'm confused about what you are trying to do. I use Vortexbox Appliance, it holds all my music and can stream to all my SB players (and they can mostly all handle 24/96). And I can control everything with ipeng or squeezepad and sync, not synch, etc. Why you are trying to have separate systems makes no sense to me, but I'm probably missing something. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.1 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Office: Win7(64) LMS 7.7.1 SqueezePlay Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controllers: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I'm looking for a SB player that can pass hi-rez audio to my external DAC without down sampling. All SB players downsample hi-rez to 44/48khz except the Touch through SPDIF output and even the Touch maxes out at 96khz. I was hoping to build a box using VB with a 192khz/24 compatible sound card and use it a a Squeezebox. I'm tied to SB and SqueezeCenter because of all the years I've used a SB. I just need a SqueezeBox Player that can output hi-rez 96/24. I have a library of SACDs that are 176/24 and 192/24 that I'd like to pass through to my external DAC. -- donny619 donny619's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Vortexbox questions
donny619;675637 Wrote: I'm looking for a SB player that can pass hi-rez audio to my external DAC without down sampling. All SB players downsample hi-rez to 44/48khz except the Touch through SPDIF output and even the Touch maxes out at 96khz. I was hoping to build a box using VB with a 192khz/24 compatible sound card and use it a a Squeezebox. I'm tied to SB and SqueezeCenter because of all the years I've used a SB. I just need a SqueezeBox Player that can output hi-rez 96/24. I have a library of SACDs that are 176/24 and 192/24 that I'd like to pass through to my external DAC. correct. Touch and Transporter max out at 24/96. I guess I was confused by the hi-rez reference (which in my mind also means 24/96). There are some other threads on using the VB player and/or squeezeslave as 24/192 that I assume you'll find useful. Good luck. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.1 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Office: Win7(64) LMS 7.7.1 SqueezePlay Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controllers: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=675635highlight=192#post675635 http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89733highlight=192 -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.1 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Office: Win7(64) LMS 7.7.1 SqueezePlay Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controllers: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Thanks fellas. I've downloaded your iso (1.1, because I your forums indicate some issues with hi-rez?) and am installing it on a Virtual Machine to see if I can get the hookups I like. If it's a go, I'll build the system out, use VB and write up a review in case someone is looking to use VB the way I am =) -- donny619 donny619's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Vortexbox questions
donny619;675643 Wrote: Thanks fellas. I've downloaded your iso (1.1, because I your forums indicate some issues with hi-rez?) and am installing it on a Virtual Machine to see if I can get the hookups I like. If it's a go, I'll build the system out, use VB and write up a review in case someone is looking to use VB the way I am =) probably doesn't matter, but if I were you I'd go with the 2.0 ISO. If 1.1 can work with 24/192, so can 2.0and why go to all the trouble for the old version? -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.1 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Office: Win7(64) LMS 7.7.1 SqueezePlay Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controllers: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Second the recommendation to install the VB 2.0 ISO, not the VB 1.10 ISO. VortexBox Player shows up as a player choice in the LMS web interface and on other control devices (Duet Controller, iPeng, SqueezePad). See http://vortexbox.org/forum/vortexbox-player/vortexbox-player-list-of-compatible-dacs/ for a list of compatible DACs. Note that VortexBox Player supports hi-res, but when served by LMS, it does not support gapless FLAC playback. You have to use MPD as the server, not LMS, if you want gapless FLAC playback, using a MPD client like MPoD or MPaD to control playback. -- Ron Olsen Ron Olsen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9233 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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firedog;675148 Wrote: Supposedly true, but not really. Vortexbox is easy if it installs without problem on your machine (often doesn't); but is anything but easy if you have somewhat non standard hardware or if you want to introduce some minor option it isn't setup for.(e.g. something basic like install 2nd hard drive) Just go to the Vortexbox.org forum and check the solutions to problems that arise for users (And there are many). For virtually every one of them, the solution involves logging on with a command line program like Putty and writing/editing code. Example: http://vortexbox.org/documentation/how-to-add-a-second-drive-to-your-vortexbox/ So even user friendly' Vortexbox is way to geeky for most people. I only know one person besides me that would go anywhere near it, and he's definitely a computer geek. VortexBox lives two lives. One as the Geekey command line OS for hackers and other as the totally plug and play VortexBox Appliance. The point of the Appliance is like Linux powered routers you never need to know or care about Linux. You just use the web GUI to configure and use them. And unlike Windows you never need to deal with viruses, system slow downs etc. And to answer your question about adding drives you are correct the VortexBox GUI does not allow you to add a drive. This may not seem like a good idea until you read the Windows Home Server forum where a large number of the posts are about problems with adding and removing drives, partitions, and loosing data etc. With a VortexBox appliance you never worry about where your music is. It's always on the primary drive. But if you want to add a drive you can get geekey go to the command line and do it. VortexBox is the ultimate because it's as simple or as complex as you want to make it. Don't get me wrong Windows and WHS for that matter work great for a lot of people. But for simplicity of auto ripping music, storing it, and playing back on a network player nothing beats a purpose built appliance that just works. -- agillis rip, tag, get cover art All you do is insert the CD! http://vortexbox.org agillis Lead Developer VortexBox agillis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21140 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Goodsounds;675107 Wrote: Like most people, I'm not interested in learning about an operating system. I'd get more bang from the buck from learning more about some of the apps I need to use, like Word or Excel. But I'm not interested in learning more about them either. Linux's lack of acceptance among PC users is because people are happy to pay for the simplicity and ease of use they get from the MS and Apple products. These products don't need to be better, and I'll accept what (I think) is your view that they're inferior. It doesn't matter, perception wins out. Yes. And this is coming from someone with a Linux (Vortexbox) based music server. I would say that something well above 95% of the population has no desire to use any OS that doesn't work totally by a GUI. In addition, using Linux limits your software and hardware choices. For instance there is some hi-end audio gear I'm interested in without Linux drivers, and the producers have categorically stated they won't be writing them. Most users like the simplicity of installing apps in Windows and Apple machines. In Apple everything just works. In newer versions of Windows, everything almost just works and there is a myriad of different programs for each purpose ranging from free to paid. Linux die-hards always talk about how great, easy, and user configurable Linux is - and that's true. But you have to be a geek. And before you start to argue, just admit to yourself: for about 98% of the population, using command line code, by definition, makes you a geek. That may not be your definition, but that's because you're a geek. The above mentioned 98% have never used command line code and don't want to ever need to. When you use a Linux setup and something doesn't work or can't be installed, you go to the net and search for a solution. There are lots of solutions, and MANY of them (in some instances all of them) involve writing code. For most people this is an automatic dealbreaker in terms of the OS. -- firedog GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Tranquil PC fanless server running Vortexbox OS; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DAC-V3, MF X-150 as pre-amp, ClassDaudio SDS-470 amp; Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon M20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Goodsounds;675107 Wrote: Like most people, I'm not interested in learning about an operating system. I'd get more bang from the buck from learning more about some of the apps I need to use, like Word or Excel. But I'm not interested in learning more about them either. Linux's lack of acceptance among PC users is because people are happy to pay for the simplicity and ease of use they get from the MS and Apple products. These products don't need to be better, and I'll accept what (I think) is your view that they're inferior. It doesn't matter, perception wins out. I think the lines are getting blurred here, you need to differentiate between Linux and Vortexbox - Vortexbox is based on linux but has been custom built to be very user friendly, auto rips, pulls in tags/artwork etc, you can do all tasks from an easy to use web interface, you don't need to be geeky and get into the bones of it, that is one of the beauties of the distro. Whereas if I build a windows home server I would have to install LMS, configure various settings etc. etc., much the same using a mac mini -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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socistep;675144 Wrote: I think the lines are getting blurred here, you need to differentiate between Linux and Vortexbox - Vortexbox is based on linux but has been custom built to be very user friendly, auto rips, pulls in tags/artwork etc, you can do all tasks from an easy to use web interface, you don't need to be geeky and get into the bones of it, that is one of the beauties of the distro. Whereas if I build a windows home server I would have to install LMS, configure various settings etc. etc., much the same using a mac mini Okay, but just go to the Vortexbox.org forum and check the solutions to problems that arise for users(And there are many). For virtually every one of them, the solution involves logging on with a command line program like Putty and writing/editing code. So even user friendly' Vortexbox is way to geeky for most people. I only know one person besides me that would go anywhere near it, and he's definitely a computer geek. Unfortunately, this is pretty much true for all the Linux distros I've encountered. And don't get me wrong: I like Vortexbox and think it works well. It just isn't suitable for anything approaching the mainstream computer user. -- firedog GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Tranquil PC fanless server running Vortexbox OS; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DAC-V3, MF X-150 as pre-amp, ClassDaudio SDS-470 amp; Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon M20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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firedog;675148 Wrote: Supposedly true, but not really. Vortexbox is easy if it installs without problem on your machine (often doesn't); but is anything but easy if you have somewhat non standard hardware or if you want to introduce some minor option it isn't setup for.(e.g. something basic like install 2nd hard drive) Just go to the Vortexbox.org forum and check the solutions to problems that arise for users (And there are many). For virtually every one of them, the solution involves logging on with a command line program like Putty and writing/editing code. Example: http://vortexbox.org/documentation/how-to-add-a-second-drive-to-your-vortexbox/ So even user friendly' Vortexbox is way to geeky for most people. I only know one person besides me that would go anywhere near it, and he's definitely a computer geek. Unfortunately, this is pretty much true for all the Linux distros I've encountered. And don't get me wrong: I like Vortexbox and think it works well. It just isn't suitable for anything approaching the mainstream computer user, unlike Windows and Apple OSes. Personally I have installed vortexbox on 3 boxes with no issues, an old compaq desktop, a mini ITX box and a HP proliant microserver, I guess its different for every user. What I am talking about above is setting up a box specifically to rip, tag, get cover art and run LMS, in terms of user friendliness then vortexbox is a lot easier then setting up say windows home server and trying to get it to do the same. My view is that the example of adding a 2nd hard drive is going above and beyond the core features, however you have a very strong user community who can support users if they want to go down that route, but there is no need to do that if you don't want to so I don't agree that its not mainstream compatible. Also remember that the SB Touch is a mini linux server, designed specifically for the core features then it runs perfect for its users, I imagine the % of users who want to log in from the command line and adapt is small - vortexbox is a similar concept (however requires more initial set-up), a version of linux adapted specifically, in this case as a media jukebox. -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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firedog;675148 Wrote: Supposedly true, but not really. Vortexbox is easy if it installs without problem on your machine (often doesn't); but is anything but easy if you have somewhat non standard hardware or if you want to introduce some minor option it isn't setup for.(e.g. something basic like install 2nd hard drive) Just go to the Vortexbox.org forum and check the solutions to problems that arise for users (And there are many). For virtually every one of them, the solution involves logging on with a command line program like Putty and writing/editing code. Example: http://vortexbox.org/documentation/how-to-add-a-second-drive-to-your-vortexbox/ First, let's recall that the OP is talking about buying a Vortexbox Appliance. That is _the_ standard hardware from the VB people. So the Linux-based appliance description is apt and your non-standard hardware argument is a red herring in this particular case. Second, there is absolutely no code being edited or written in the post that you link to. Yes, there are some commands being given at the command line. That may scare some people, but there's no point in exaggerating and calling it writing/editing code. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Goodsounds;674053 Wrote: Not sure what you mean by this. Win machines tend to accumulate a lot of garbage settings that delay boot-up. Google Run msconfig to see how to adjust Startup settings. There's a lot of stuff (Google, Chrome, Quicktime, Winamp, Adobe, Real and on and on) that decides without asking you that it should be loaded when you turn on your machine. It's mostly unnecessary and time consuming, uncheck those boxes and you can often cut boot-up time in half. Doing so also frees up memory to allow your machine to run apps faster. If you're unclear whether a particular file is essential or not, google the name to find out what it does. The point of having a Linux based appliance is you don't have to tinker with program like msconfig to get the system to run fast and reliable. When you think about a Linux appliance thing about your Linksys home router (Linux based). A small Windows machine would make a great router using internet home sharing. But why would you want to mess with that when there are dedicated Linux appliances like a Linksys router that are much easier to set up and use. -- agillis rip, tag, get cover art All you do is insert the CD! http://vortexbox.org agillis Lead Developer VortexBox agillis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21140 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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agillis;675004 Wrote: The point of having a Linux based appliance is you don't have to tinker with program like msconfig to get the system to run fast and reliable. I've used an EEE box with Win for several years as a music and network server, it's been reliable and trouble free for the most part. Should problems arise, Windows information is widely available in non-technical language. Msconfig is about the only tinkering I've ever found necessary (after 20+ years as a windows user). It's simple to use and any changes can be done in seconds. I don't think the same is true for a rookie linux user, for whom something as simple as installing a program or update, or attaching a new drive, can suddenly become a mystery. agillis;675004 Wrote: When you think about a Linux appliance thing about your Linksys home router (Linux based). A small Windows machine would make a great router using internet home sharing. But why would you want to mess with that when there are dedicated Linux appliances like a Linksys router that are much easier to set up and use. Sorry, this is a poor analogy. Many purpose-built devices run linux variants because that's what embedded software tools are now oriented to. And people with requisite programming skiils are widely available. Not all that long ago, before linux had been ported to so many microprocessors, embedded software tools were often microprocessor specific and produced machine language code. At that time, you surely didn't use that as a reason to recommend that. It's good there are choices, people can choose what works best for them. But be fair - PC users need to be able to add and subtract hardware and software, and in that regard linux isn't usually described as friendly and suitable for the consumer market. -- Goodsounds Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Goodsounds;675048 Wrote: I've used an EEE box with Win for several years as a music and network server, it's been reliable and trouble free for the most part. Should problems arise, Windows information is widely available in non-technical language. Msconfig is about the only tinkering I've ever found necessary (after 20+ years as a windows user). It's simple to use and any changes can be done in seconds. I don't think the same is true for a rookie linux user, for whom something as simple as installing a program or update, or attaching a new drive, can suddenly become a mystery. Sorry, this is a poor analogy. Many purpose-built devices run linux variants because that's what embedded software tools are now oriented to. And people with requisite programming skiils are widely available. Not all that long ago, before linux had been ported to so many microprocessors, embedded software tools were often microprocessor specific and produced machine language code. At that time, you surely didn't use that as a reason to recommend that. It's good there are choices, people can choose what works best for them. But be fair - PC users need to be able to add and subtract hardware and software, and in that regard linux isn't usually described as friendly and suitable for the consumer market. Brrrp! AKA a fart sound. -- pski real stereo doesn't just wake the neighbors, it -enrages- them.. It is truly the Golden Age of Wireless pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pski;675091 Wrote: Brrrp! AKA a fart sound. Linux works beautifully and with far less hardware resources than winders. The same time spent learning Linux will result in a far greater understanding than the same time investment in other less sophisticated operating system. I think the term is zenophobe. Try google.com/linux with such questions as start up Like most people, I'm not interested in learning about an operating system. I'd get more bang from the buck from learning more about some of the apps I need to use, like Word or Excel. But I'm not interested in learning more about them either. Linux's lack of acceptance among PC users is because people are happy to pay for the simplicity and ease of use they get from the MS and Apple products. These products don't need to be better, and I'll accept what (I think) is your view that they're inferior. It doesn't matter, perception wins out. -- Goodsounds Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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jfo;674045 Wrote: Gary, Have you tried the Server Power Control plugin on your VBA? I set it up on my pc recently and it works well.I'm helping a friend setup a VBA (mostly over the phone) and I gather it includes the plugin...at least in earlier versions of SBS. I believe I read you changed to LMS. Yep, I have it and know how it works but don't use it. A couple of reasons. Mostly because there are not many hours of the day someone is not listening and I might even want to listen at 3:00 in the morning (I love my soft pillow speaker). I know it can wol but don't really want to bother. I sorta think that everything is more trouble free when it just stays on. No evidence for this, just a gut feeling. And leaving it on 24/7 probably adds less than $20 a year to my electric bill! -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.0 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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garym;674121 Wrote: Yep, I have it and know how it works but don't use it. A couple of reasons. Mostly because there are not many hours of the day someone is not listening and I might even want to listen at 3:00 in the morning (I love my soft pillow speaker). I know it can wol but don't really want to bother. I sorta think that everything is more trouble free when it just stays on. No evidence for this, just a gut feeling. And leaving it on 24/7 probably adds less than $20 a year to my electric bill! I was the same with mine, did look into the plugin but decided to leave on 24/7 -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I would like to get a Vortexbox to use instead of my 24/7 pc (which is what I'm using now). From what I am understanding, there is no change in audio quality when running SBs via the Vortexbox (is this true?); the Vortexbox will connect to all of the same stations (internet radio,favorites,playlists,MOG,Slacker...etc,etc.)right? How are SB beta updates incorporated into the Vortexbox? I do not have a large collection of cd's...maybe 200 or so. Should I get the 2TB VB just to be safe...it's only about $70 more? Thanks for any advice or suggestions. -- Ikabob Ikabob Squeezebox Touch w/SBS; SAE Amplifier;Marantz Pre-amp;ESS Heil Speakers(main listening speakers plus various additional speakers). Multiple players: SqueezeBooms,SqueezeRadios; SB3; Services:Slacker;Sky.com; MOG; Sirius.com; Ipeng remote controller. Ikabob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32088 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Ikabob;673972 Wrote: I would like to get a Vortexbox to use instead of my 24/7 pc (which is what I'm using now). From what I am understanding, there is no change in audio quality when running SBs via the Vortexbox (is this true?); the Vortexbox will connect to all of the same stations (internet radio,favorites,playlists,MOG,Slacker...etc,etc.)right? How are SB beta updates incorporated into the Vortexbox? I do not have a large collection of cd's...maybe 200 or so. Should I get the 2TB VB just to be safe...it's only about $70 more? Thanks for any advice or suggestions. basically you can do anything with SBS (or rather LMS) on vortexbox, that you can do with SBS on windows its just a different platform. As for the HD size, thats totally up to you your collection would probably only take up 100-150 gig in flac, but keep in mind that you can use vortexbox to stream hd movies to any mediaplayers you might have too. As for updates, you can install beta nigthlies from command line but in the regular vortexboxupdates, only official logitech releases are installed -- Hajaz Hajaz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45407 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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The Vortex Box Appliance will also rip your DVD's so the larger drive is probably a good idea. It runs the same underlying application (Logitech Media Server 7.7.0) so it will be totally familiar to you and operate in the way you are used to. -- cphan Server: VortexBox Appliance v1.9 Remote: iPeng 1.4 Living room: SB3 Polk Audio Series 5B Basement: Squeezeslave (via VBA) Alesis M1 Active MkII Bedroom: Squeezebox Boom Studio: Squeezebox Boom cphan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14522 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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First, note that Vortexbox is the software -- a specialized version of Fedora Linux that is customized to do SBS/LMS and some other things. The hardware is known as the Vortexbox Appliance (VBA). Second, you should understand that even though it isn't marketed as such, the VBA _is_ a pc. It uses a low power Intel Atom processor so that it only draws around 23w, and the Vortexbox software makes it easy to run it headless, so that many users use it more like a NAS than a pc. My music server uses the exact same hardware as the VBA, but I installed debian linux as the OS, so it can work as a general purpose Linux box in addition to running SBS. Most of the time I run it headless, but when I feel like it (or need an extra pc) I attach a monitor and keyboard and away I go. As for sound quality, I think most people (myself included) will say there is no difference. Why should there be? It's just another pc/NAS running SBS. That said, there are some who swear that a server running Windows sounds better than a server running Linux. Take a look at the very long soundcheck's mods threads for some of the claims that some people make. I am skeptical to say the least, but I thought I'd mention it. All the services, internet radio, etc are the same as any other implementation of SBS/LMS. As for size of drive, there is the old axiom that the data always expands to meet the capacity of the hard drive, and that would indicate you should get the 2TB drive. On the other hand, 200 CDs in FLAC is less than 100GB. Unless you are planning to go on a binge of CD buying or music downloading it will be a long time before you fill a 1TB drive. All hard drives die eventually, and the drive could well go belly up long before you ever break the 1TB barrier. Finally, is your current pc such an energy hog that it makes sense to spend a few hundred $ on a VBA? If it is such a hog, have you considered using basic power management software and the Server Power Control plugin to let it go into hibernation or suspend when you're not playing music from your collection? Sorry, I can't answer the Q about LMS updates on Vortexbox, but I understand it works pretty easily. -- aubuti Nothing high-end, but music anywhere I want it, and it's '100% wind powered' (http://www.cleancurrents.com/). 'MSI single-core Atom mini-desktop' (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032) (Debian Lenny 5.0.6) feeding: Living room: SB Touch 'NAD C325 BEE' (http://nadelectronics.com/products/hifi-amplifiers/C-325BEE-Stereo-Integrated-Amplifier?products/hifi-amplifiers/C325BEE-Stereo-Integrated-Amplifier) 'Vandersteen 1' (http://www.vandersteen.com/pages/1clit.html); Kitchen/Dining: 'SB2' (http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20050428023747/http://www.slimdevices.com/) 'AudioSource Amp100' (http://www.amazon.com/AudioSource-AMP-100-2-Channel-Bridgeable-Amplifier/dp/B00026BQJ6) 2 pair of 'Polk RC60i' (http://www.polkaudio.com/customaudio/rci/index.php?s=rc60i); Basement: 'SB2' (http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20050428023747/http://www.slimdevices.com/) 'JVC JA-S44' (http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=204813) 'ESS Tempest LS8' (http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/205237-ess_tempest_ls_8_speakers/); Bedroom: Boom; Study: SB Radio; Backyard deck: 'SB Receiver' (http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20080124175538/http://www.slimdevices.com/) 'AudioSource Amp100' (http://www.amazon.com/AudioSource-AMP-100-2-Channel-Bridgeable-Amplifier/dp/B00026BQJ6) 'Polk Atrium 45' (http://www.polkaudio.com/homeaudio/atrium/index.php#atrium45); Kid's bedroom: 'SB3' (http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20051210015952/http://slimdevices.com/) 'Klipsch ProMedia 2.0' (http://www.klipsch.com.cn/na-en/products/promedia-ultra-2-0-overview/); Roaming controllers: iPod touch with iPeng, 3 'SB Duet' (http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20080124175538/http://www.slimdevices.com/) Controllers, 'Nokia N800' (http://www.nokiausa.com/find-products/phones/nokia-n800-r6); Limbo:one more 'SBR' (http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20080124175538/http://www.slimdevices.com/) http://www.last.fm/user/aubuti/ aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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The official Logitech LMS release is available in the VortexBox repository, and can be installed from the VortexBox web interface by clicking on the Start Upgrade button. Beta LMS versions can be installed by logging into the VB (remotely from another computer on your network, or from a monitor and keyboard attached to the VB), and installing them from the Logitech nightly or RC directories. See http://vortexbox.org/forum/general/logitech-releases-lms-7-7-1-rc1/ for instructions on installing LMS 7.7.1 RC1 on VortexBox. -- Ron Olsen Ron Olsen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9233 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Thanks for all the great information from all above. Thanks for taking the time to help me make a wise choice. Not sure yet though. -- Ikabob Ikabob Squeezebox Touch w/SBS; SAE Amplifier;Marantz Pre-amp;ESS Heil Speakers(main listening speakers plus various additional speakers). Multiple players: SqueezeBooms,SqueezeRadios; SB3; Services:Slacker;Sky.com; MOG; Sirius.com; Ipeng remote controller. Ikabob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32088 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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If you buy a VortexBox Appliance or build your own, I strongly recommend a 2 TB hard drive. If you ever want to use the VB as a video server, you'll chew up disk space fast. -- Ron Olsen Ron Olsen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9233 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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As another reference point,my 830 cd's in FLAC take up 258 Gb. I very much doubt I will ever fill my 1Tb drive. I have no plans to steam video. -- jfo jfo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1135 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I'm very happy with my vba 6TB and just ordered a vba 3TB for my second location. Very, very stable setup. It simply works without lots of tinkering. I currently use in the vba: flac files, internet radio, spotify, pandora and siriusXM. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.0 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Ikabob;673993 Wrote: Thanks for all the great information from all above. Thanks for taking the time to help me make a wise choice. Not sure yet though. If you don't have a technical background, you might be better off sticking to the more consumer-friendly choices - Win or Apple OS. Even some true techies I know stay away from Linux at home, saying there aren't any compelling advantages that warrant the risk of the potential problems (when there are others in the house who need to use it). I did a quick search and found many choices of nettop-type PCs with Windows for up to $100 less than what you've considering, with an internal HD that would hold 3X your current collection. Look for EEE box or Acer for examples, and there are many others. If your collection grows 3X, you can add an external USB drive. They're cheap. -- Goodsounds Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Goodsounds;674023 Wrote: If you don't have a technical background, you might be better off sticking to the more consumer-friendly choices - Win or Apple OS. Even some true techies I know stay away from Linux at home, saying there aren't any compelling advantages that warrant the risk of the potential problems (when there are others in the house who need to use it). I did a quick search and found many choices of nettop-type PCs with Windows for up to $100 less than what you've considering, with an internal HD that would hold 3X your current collection. Look for EEE box or Acer for examples, and there are many others. If your collection grows 3X, you can add an external USB drive. They're cheap. I don't disagree with your premise, but I'll add to my earlier comments that I know NOTHING about Linux and I'm not a techie by profession (although I've learned a bit about how home networks work in the last coupe of years). I will say that my vba is only used as a server for my music and some extra file backups so no one else is using it. My wife and I have windows laptops for our ain't use. And I also agree that there are many low power windows boxes that will do the trick. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.0 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Goodsounds;674023 Wrote: If you don't have a technical background, you might be better off sticking to the more consumer-friendly choices - Win or Apple OS. Even some true techies I know stay away from Linux at home, saying there aren't any compelling advantages that warrant the risk of the potential problems (when there are others in the house who need to use it). I did a quick search and found many choices of nettop-type PCs with Windows for up to $100 less than what you've considering, with an internal HD that would hold 3X your current collection. Look for EEE box or Acer for examples, and there are many others. If your collection grows 3X, you can add an external USB drive. They're cheap. Thanks Garym. I have a nice pc attached but it takes forever to load up cds. I was just thinking that a VB would load up faster and might be easier to categorize and conserve energy. The pc I use is one dedicated to the SBes and to a workout machine (a Rower...RowPro software...which btw is an awesome program for those inclined to row indoors). I also do not like keeping the pc on 24/7 and I'm not sure how to set it on an energy saving mode. So, maybe I'll just save my mooolahrooshki and live with the Win pc. It works very nicely. Maybe I'll start looking into a Rega DAC which I have been thinking about also. Any thoughts on the DAC? Thanks. -- Ikabob Ikabob Squeezebox Touch w/SBS; SAE Amplifier;Marantz Pre-amp;ESS Heil Speakers(main listening speakers plus various additional speakers). Multiple players: SqueezeBooms,SqueezeRadios; SB3; Services:Slacker;Sky.com; MOG; Sirius.com; Ipeng remote controller. Ikabob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32088 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I wouldn't get the vba unless I planned on leaving it on 24/7. You are likely better off leaving your current pc on 24/7 or learning how to use wol. Booting up the vba is not much different in time taken from my pc. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.0 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Seem to be some other threads on the rega Dac. You should search forums for those. My transporter doesn't need a Dac and I use a benchmark dac with one of my touch units. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.0 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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garym;674031 Wrote: I wouldn't get the vba unless I planned on leaving it on 24/7. You are likely better off leaving your current pc on 24/7 or learning how to use wol. Booting up the vba is not much different in time taken from my pc. Gary, Have you tried the Server Power Control plugin on your VBA? I set it up on my pc recently and it works well.I'm helping a friend setup a VBA (mostly over the phone) and I gather it includes the plugin...at least in earlier versions of SBS. I believe I read you changed to LMS. -- jfo jfo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1135 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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jfo;674045 Wrote: Gary, Have you tried the Server Power Control plugin on your VBA? I set it up on my pc recently and it works well.I'm helping a friend setup a VBA (mostly over the phone) and I gather it includes the plugin...at least in earlier versions of SBS. I believe I read you changed to LMS. VortexBox 1.10, based on Fedora 14, included an older version of the SPC plugin along with SBS. VortexBox 2.0, based on Fedora 16, does not automatically include the SPC plugin with LMS. If you want the SPC plugin, you have to install it from the LMS Settings Plugins page, following the instructions in the first post of the SPC thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48521 -- Ron Olsen Ron Olsen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9233 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Vortexbox questions
Ikabob;674030 Wrote: Thanks Goodsounds. I have a nice pc attached but it takes forever to load up cds. Not sure what you mean by this. Win machines tend to accumulate a lot of garbage settings that delay boot-up. Google Run msconfig to see how to adjust Startup settings. There's a lot of stuff (Google, Chrome, Quicktime, Winamp, Adobe, Real and on and on) that decides without asking you that it should be loaded when you turn on your machine. It's mostly unnecessary and time consuming, uncheck those boxes and you can often cut boot-up time in half. Doing so also frees up memory to allow your machine to run apps faster. If you're unclear whether a particular file is essential or not, google the name to find out what it does. -- Goodsounds Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Vortexbox questions
My 2c it may be easy to run windows but not always SBS/LMS on windows . The constanly evolwing battle between a wide selection if antivirus software firewalls and other security features proves it. When you got it running on some server linux it does so almost idefinetely it does not suddenly fails due to an windows service pack or security hotfix or antivirus upgrade . This problem is probably due to some laziness of M$ and Antivirus and FW programmers they simply assume that users don't run server aplications and treat anything sending stuff out from the computer as suspect and overeacts . The upgrade procedure on my linux server is 3 easy command lines . When I used win it was only a mouse click *but* sometimes it was also fretting with numerous settings in all the av and fw software to no end. And modern windows is even more finicky you must remeber to run installers and aplications as administrator in varius combinations and windows twist on file paths, that drive letters is user space only ( almost ) ( imo the drive letter system is junk anyway ). I opted for a system with a more deterministic behavior -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
