Re: Installing GNUstep

2016-12-01 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Hello Simon, I'm not the expert at it, but I used the instructions at http://etoileos.com/downloads/installtrunk/, and they worked for me. Of course, I have my own agenda mentioning Etoile here: they have this thing called Pragmatic Smalltalk, and I would like to see at least some more examples

Installing GNUstep

2016-12-01 Thread Simon Gornall
So, I have a fresh new Centos 7 system, and I’m looking at the best way to install GNUstep. There’s a lot of information out there, but I’m not sure what the “best practices” way to do it is, to get a modern libObjc2 runtime, and compiling with clang. Is there a definitive site with

Re: mulle-objc #MakeObjCGreatAgain

2016-12-01 Thread Luboš Doležel
Dne 1.12.2016 v 17:30 David Chisnall napsal(a): On 1 Dec 2016, at 16:26, Matt Butch wrote: I’m hoping to be able to use Objective-C on servers, so Mulle-Objc might be a good option for that. If it can get a good community behind it, even better. I’m not sure why

Re: mulle-objc #MakeObjCGreatAgain

2016-12-01 Thread Steven R. Baker
On 01/12/16 17:33, David Chisnall wrote: > On 1 Dec 2016, at 16:12, Steven R. Baker wrote: >> It might not be true today. But at some point, Apple will see fit to not >> give back a feature. A feature that people will depend on. > Which part of ‘Apple is not even the

Re: mulle-objc #MakeObjCGreatAgain

2016-12-01 Thread Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf
> Am 01.12.2016 um 11:39 schrieb Riccardo Mottola : > > Hi Stepper, > > Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: >> you might be interested in this: mulle-objc is a new way to run Objective-C >> code on various platforms, based on a new compiler and a new runtime. >> >>

Re: mulle-objc #MakeObjCGreatAgain

2016-12-01 Thread David Chisnall
On 1 Dec 2016, at 16:12, Steven R. Baker wrote: > > It might not be true today. But at some point, Apple will see fit to not > give back a feature. A feature that people will depend on. Which part of ‘Apple is not even the largest single contributor’ did you not

Re: mulle-objc #MakeObjCGreatAgain

2016-12-01 Thread David Chisnall
On 1 Dec 2016, at 16:26, Matt Butch wrote: > > I’m hoping to be able to use Objective-C on servers, so Mulle-Objc might be a > good option for that. If it can get a good community behind it, even better. I’m not sure why Mulle-Objc brings there. I know of three

Re: mulle-objc #MakeObjCGreatAgain

2016-12-01 Thread Matt Butch
I’ve checked it out, and I think I’ll be helping out. I’m a huge fan of Objective-C, and with Swift being the new hotness (despite my belief its a pretty bad language), its great to see another option for it. I’m hoping to be able to use Objective-C on servers, so Mulle-Objc might be a good

Re: mulle-objc #MakeObjCGreatAgain

2016-12-01 Thread Steven R. Baker
On 01/12/16 12:06, David Chisnall wrote: > On 1 Dec 2016, at 07:43, Steven R. Baker wrote: >> I would like to add an additional concern. I know that LLVM and clang are >> the new hotness, but they're de facto owned by Apple now. It won't be long >> before there are

Re: mulle-objc #MakeObjCGreatAgain

2016-12-01 Thread David Chisnall
On 1 Dec 2016, at 07:43, Steven R. Baker wrote: > > I would like to add an additional concern. I know that LLVM and clang are the > new hotness, but they're de facto owned by Apple now. It won't be long before > there are new and hot features that are in Apple's own

Re: mulle-objc #MakeObjCGreatAgain

2016-12-01 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Stepper, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: you might be interested in this: mulle-objc is a new way to run Objective-C code on various platforms, based on a new compiler and a new runtime. https://mulle-objc.github.io some more background information is available here: