Re: [tdf-discuss] [POLL] own forums

2011-11-10 Thread Robert Derman
Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, sadly, I didn't manage yet to read all messages, but I will and will reply to. But I think (correct me if I'm wrong) we have reached a stage where we should maybe have a quick poll on whether to go with our own forums or not. If yes, we then can later on deci

Re: [tdf-discuss] official forums

2011-11-12 Thread Robert Derman
Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, thanks a lot to everyone for their great and creative contribution to the discussion, which I consider really fruitful. Even if I didn't reply to every message, I read them all. It is already rather clear, that there is a real overwhelming support for havin

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Is Microsoft getting worried about free Office suites?

2011-11-28 Thread Robert Derman
Olav Dahlum wrote: On 28/11/11 13:13, Pedro wrote: Ian Lynch wrote Google should do a version of Office based on the OOo/LibO code base and embed ads and search links, make it available freely and brand it Google Office. Given their brand strength and marketing, that would probably do

Re: [tdf-discuss] Standalone PDF

2011-12-02 Thread Robert Derman
Paul wrote: Does Libre office have a stand alone PDF application? ie - does Libre provide the PDF editor by itself without all the other features in the 200 MB download - is it possible to install only the PDF tool without all the other features ? All responses appreciated. Thanks, Paula Yes

Re: [tdf-discuss] Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2011-12-28 Thread Robert Derman
Olav Dahlum wrote: On 28/12/11 20:05, Danishka Navin wrote: As you all know the floppy disc is some thing out dated in the modern computer world. I'm afraid it's not the case, a lot of people use them, and especially in governmental institutions. Why we still continue the "Floppy

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2011-12-30 Thread Robert Derman
M Robinson wrote: I haven't heard of Delete/Eraser that works as well on SSDs as traditional hard drives. That said USB will be the most common storage media soon enough. Who saves to CDs at work? I don't think the icon is a big deal, the whole interface is dated, I pitched a Firefox addon-lik

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [libo-marketing-priv] Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2012-01-06 Thread Robert Derman
1920...@googlemail.com wrote: On 4 January 2012 13:46, Michael Meeks wrote: Trivial to do; and the UX people I've talked to ask to do it. All we need is for someone to submit a patch we can merge that has the updated tango icons overwriting the save / saveas icons. An Easy Hac

Re: [tdf-discuss] Suggestion: Open to last edited page

2012-01-07 Thread Robert Derman
ScCrow wrote: I did not find this in my searches or anything in the LibreOffice options. So, sorry if its there and I just did not find it. I would like for a document (any document) to open to the last page that I was on when I closed it. I have a large document. When I go back, I always hav

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibOCon proposals

2012-01-23 Thread Robert Derman
Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, we have received two proposals for this years' LibreOffice Conference - thank you very much for your applications! My proposal for the voting process is as follows: - I would like to make the proposals public immediately, by uploading them to the wiki, and

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibOCon proposals

2012-01-24 Thread Robert Derman
Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Olivier Hallot wrote on 2012-01-24 15:48: Voting is a measure of traceable membership participation/activity. Otherwise we can get spammed on untraceable votes to send us where we don't want LibCon to happen. by that, we would exclude a large amount of developer

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: IBM is alive ;)

2012-02-07 Thread Robert Derman
donald_harbi...@us.ibm.com wrote: Pedro, My mistake then. I didn't read deeply enough into the thread. I still submit that none of these open source projects and their products compete in the sense of meaningful market share. With MS-Office dominating so thoroughly the only thing that makes s

Re: [tdf-discuss] The Floppy icon and meritocracy

2012-02-09 Thread Robert Derman
yahoo-pier_andreit wrote: On 08/02/12 10:54, Pedro wrote: Hi all I just read the UX thread/sequence of emails where it was decided that the universal Save icon (in any program, any OS) represented by a floppy disk would be replaced by another icon. I'm shocked that a Discuss topic where 54

Re: [tdf-discuss] MS Outlook?

2012-02-15 Thread Robert Derman
Olav Dahlum wrote: 2012/2/15 Shawn Sumin Will LibreOffice ever have a similar program like MS Outlook? i.e. Calendar, Tasks, Contacts and Mail The components was thrown out of StarOffice in its time, so putting them back won't be feasible. But as other people points out, it's actua

Re: [tdf-discuss] MS Outlook?

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Derman
e-letter wrote: On 15/02/2012, Robert Derman wrote: I am just a bit slow to re comment on this, but belatedly, here goes. You have to excuse me for saying this, I have used OpenOffice since it was first released to the public (I loved OO Writer, and I like LO Writer even more) and I am a

Re: [tdf-discuss] Security Advisories

2012-03-23 Thread Robert Derman
NoOp wrote: Why is it that "security advisories" such as this: https://www.libreoffice.org/advisories/CVE-2012-0037/ are not posted on the user or announce lists? The only way I found out about this was via a Redhat bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=791296 [Bug 791296 - (

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Security Advisories

2012-03-23 Thread Robert Derman
NoOp wrote: On 03/22/2012 06:31 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote: NoOp wrote: It would be nice if someone 'official' (ala TDF) could post the CVE-2012-0037 notice on both the user and announce lists. It is now reported on the blog post. Well just how many users are subscribed to

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

2010-10-29 Thread Robert Derman
Jussi Silvonen wrote: 2010/10/29 RGB ES Writer have a good tradition of tools that helps the build of complex documents (styles, styles and more styles!). What I would like to see instead of more direct formatting tools, is a redesign of the way styles are defined to easy the learning curve of

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

2010-10-30 Thread Robert Derman
Carlos Martinez wrote: Robert Derman skrev 2010-10-29 21:59: Jussi Silvonen wrote: 2010/10/29 RGB ES Writer have a good tradition of tools that helps the build of complex documents (styles, styles and more styles!). What I would like to see instead of more direct formatting tools, is a

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Compiling in Windows

2010-10-31 Thread Robert Derman
plino wrote: All the developers agree that we should use open source compilers, and this will happen. But it's not ready for production yet, so probably the next few versions for Windows will still be using the Microsoft compilers. It depends on how many people volunteer to work on that. Thank

Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread Robert Derman
T. J. Brumfield wrote: There were several old, often commented on, and often requested bug fixes and features that didn't receive much attention or weren't resolved with OOo over the years. For those who may not be aware of the reasons for the shift/fork, or for those who don't care about politi

Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread Robert Derman
Peter Rodwell wrote: I have only today joined this discussion so I don't know whether this has already been discussed or not. There are two reasons why I have just paid money to upgrade to Office 2010 instead of switching to OO/LO: 1. Complete file compatibility. I frequently handle documents

Re: [tdf-discuss] Accessibility (was Java dependency)

2010-11-02 Thread Robert Derman
T. J. Brumfield wrote: I'm moving this into another thread. Jonathon suggested that LibO fails at accesibility requirements. Doing a few quick Google searches, it seems that OOo and thusly LibO uses the Java Accessibility API to enable the use of screen readers and braille devices. This is primar

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice UI should be tweaked, not reinvented

2010-11-04 Thread Robert Derman
Sebastian Spaeth wrote: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 20:55:19 +0100, Johannes Bausch wrote: things concerning tables. We absolutely HAVE to make the user use the stylesheet stuff, and it must be so easy that they start to use it on one-paged documents. Removing the font chooser, and font-size se

Re: [tdf-discuss] Missing function

2010-11-04 Thread Robert Derman
Peter Rodwell wrote: Quoting RGB ES: A lorem ipsum generator? (that's what google gave me about "=Lorem(12) word") Try dt and then press F3, or use this extension: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/Magenta_Lorem_ipsum_generator I was being flippant, of course. It's a feat

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: x86_64 Windows build

2010-11-04 Thread Robert Derman
e-letter wrote: In terms of priorities, making LO the default for mobile (e.g. android) is more important than windoze. How quickly things change in the world of electronics. It wasn't that long ago, that phones were one thing, and computers quite another. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Ema

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: x86_64 Windows build

2010-11-04 Thread Robert Derman
ouldn't be that hard to put out a product that people perceive as better than such junk. Time for me to get off of my soapbox now. Robert Derman -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Arch

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: x86_64 Windows build

2010-11-04 Thread Robert Derman
Robert Derman wrote: Peter Rodwell wrote: Quoting T. J. Brumfield: However, in developing countries Android tablets may be the most accessible and affordable computing platform of the future. It shouldn't be ignored. Agreed -- it certainly shouldn't be ignored, I just think that

Re: [tdf-discuss] Clear separation between frontend and backend?

2010-11-06 Thread Robert Derman
Lee Hyde wrote: Greetings All, I'm just a humble end user, and frankly I have little-to-no knowledge of software development but I was wondering whether there is a clear separation between frontend and backend with LibreOffice. Such that it would make it easy to essentially 'slot-in' a replaceme

[tdf-discuss] Rise of LO and Fall of OO

2010-11-08 Thread Robert Derman
I am not sure if anyone else has noticed this, but activity on Discuss @ OpenOffice.org seems to have peaked somewhere between 4 and 7 years ago. Long before the buyout of Sun by Oracle I noticed a marked decline in emails sent to OOo discuss. I am still subscribed to OOo discuss, actually th

Re: [tdf-discuss] FreeDesktop Bugzilla

2010-11-11 Thread Robert Derman
Charles Marcus wrote: On 2010-11-11 9:47 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: the current bug tracking system is sufficien for expert communication, but if masses of users will file their problems, we will loose overview, soon. There are too less sort criterias for subcomponents, OS-Versions, LibO ver

Re: [tdf-discuss] Updates overwriting User settings

2010-11-11 Thread Robert Derman
frazelle09 wrote: i don't know if this is the correct forum for this but -- well first of all -- good luck to all those who are participating and developing and helping! This project needs to be a success! And, we are using PCLinuxOS 2010 and they are using GOoo to install OOo. i understand t

Re: [tdf-discuss] Updates overwriting User settings

2010-11-12 Thread Robert Derman
jonathon wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/11/2010 09:15 PM, Robert Derman wrote: I have had to enter well over 1000 compound words into the dictionary, If you did that as a user-created dictionary, it should be in /user/3/wordbook, and as such, can be

Re: [tdf-discuss] Suggestion to expand user base: enable screenplay formatting with LibreOffice

2010-11-14 Thread Robert Derman
Alan C. Baird wrote: Proposal for significantly enlarging LibreOffice's user base with Screenwright(R) 14 November 2010 by Alan C. Baird, prizewinning writer and creator of the Screenwright(R) screenplay formatter [winner of the Sun/OOo CIP award] http://w.9TimeZones.com/avails.htm http://exte

Re: [tdf-discuss] Version Numbers?

2010-11-19 Thread Robert Derman
Sean White wrote: As a concerned user, if LibreOffice is meant a independent office project derived from the OpenOffice code then why do we still use their version numbering system. Wouldn't it be better to start from 1 to reinforce in peoples minds that we are a separate project. I couldn't

Re: [tdf-discuss] Version Numbers?

2010-11-22 Thread Robert Derman
jonathon wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/21/2010 09:15 PM, James Wilde wrote: ...and? Is LibO going to upgrade the version number every time OOo does? And only then? Unless there is a "compatibility tag" for extensions, the way that there is for firefox,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A proposal for effective, volunteer-friendly user support in LibreOffice

2010-11-23 Thread Robert Derman
pport seems to be the first thing that for profit companies give up when they think they can get away with it. Now it is time for me to climb down off of my soapboxRobert Derman -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A proposal for effective, volunteer-friendly user support in LibreOffice

2010-11-23 Thread Robert Derman
M. Fioretti wrote: On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 08:57:45 AM -0800, plino (pedl...@gmail.com) wrote: I do agree that volunteer-friendly user support is the key for the success of any Open Source project. However, in my opinion e-mail and mailing lists are obsolete and ineffective tools. The pro

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A proposal for effective, volunteer-friendly user support in LibreOffice

2010-11-23 Thread Robert Derman
Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-11-23 15:36, Robert Derman a écrit : I have said this in the OOo discuss list, and I think it bears repeating here. One of the biggest problems causing the need for users especially new ones to need help is the lack of a good users manual. The OOo documentation site is

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A proposal for effective, volunteer-friendly user support in LibreOffice

2010-11-23 Thread Robert Derman
Andy Brown wrote: On Tue Nov 23 2010 12:36:35 GMT-0800 (PST) Robert Derman wrote: Assuming that it is, I think the primary users manual should focus on Writer, with just one chapter on each of the other modules, and a pointer to where to download a more extensive manual on each. Where I

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A proposal for effective, volunteer-friendly user support in LibreOffice

2010-11-23 Thread Robert Derman
Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 23/11/10 23:01, Robert Derman a écrit : I just have to respond to this, I hate forums or anything else that required the use of PASSWORDS!!! I already have 10 times too many passwords to remember or keep track of and I want absolutely NO more. Frankly I wish

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-24 Thread Robert Derman
..snip. Whether it's user friendly or not depends on the user. If he/she/it is open to learning a *few* new things, it is extremely user friendly. There is, however, a segment of the population that actively resists learning *anything*. That's why: the more user-frie

Re: [tdf-discuss] A better idea for a download package.

2010-11-25 Thread Robert Derman
With all the discussion of the size of the download package and the difficulty of including things like manuals I suddenly realized that perhaps we are going about this thing entirely wrong! Perhaps what we should do is offer a CHOICE of several download packages, not just one take it or leave

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A better idea for a download package.

2010-11-26 Thread Robert Derman
Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-11-25 14:44, Robert Derman a écrit : With all the discussion of the size of the download package and the difficulty of including things like manuals I suddenly realized that perhaps we are going about this thing entirely wrong! Perhaps what we should do is offer a

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A better idea for a download package.

2010-11-27 Thread Robert Derman
Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-11-26 15:16, Robert Derman a écrit : Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-11-25 14:44, Robert Derman a écrit : With all the discussion of the size of the download package and the difficulty of including things like manuals I suddenly realized that perhaps we are going about this

Re: [tdf-discuss] Survey: Usage of LibreOffice components

2010-11-28 Thread Robert Derman
Sebastian G. wrote: I'd like to know which components are most used and maybe why others are not. If you used OpenOffice before you can include your usage data as well. Do you use the quick starter? This is more or less private. There's no goal (other than to satisfy my curiosity) of this s

Re: [tdf-discuss] Survey: Usage of LibreOffice components

2010-11-28 Thread Robert Derman
Robert Holtzman wrote: On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 01:30:32PM -0600, Robert Derman wrote: ...snip I use Writer a minimum of 1 hour every day, weekends included, probably an average of 3 hours a day. I don't use any of the other components at all. As far

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Survey: Usage of LibreOffice components

2010-11-28 Thread Robert Derman
Peter Lairo wrote: On Sun. 28.11.2010 19:09, Sebastian G. wrote: I'd like to know which components are most used and maybe why others are not. If you used OpenOffice before you can include your usage data as well. Do you use the quick starter? No! I always turn the damn thing off, and it

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A better idea for a download package.

2010-11-30 Thread Robert Derman
NoOp wrote: On 11/26/2010 12:16 PM, Robert Derman wrote: Marc Paré wrote: ... Of these two options, I would prefer being offered the menu AFTER having downloaded the LO suite. The reason for this: some users may find that downloading the suite took a longer than the anticipated

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A better idea for a download package.

2010-12-02 Thread Robert Derman
NoOp wrote: On 11/30/2010 02:43 AM, plino wrote: The point here is that OOo has a small installer with 140Mb (no Java, and only English, Spanish and French dictionaries). Why is LO going in the opposite direction with 299 and 466Mb??? The current packages (including in the smallest option 56

Re: [tdf-discuss] On the Future of TDF

2010-12-05 Thread Robert Derman
Valter Mura wrote: In data lunedì 15 novembre 2010 17:39:08, Mirek M. ha scritto: It would also be great if LibO, KOffice, AbiWord, Gnumeric, Ease, and all the other open-source editors worked together to set standards. It's called Open Document Format (ODF) an

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Name Change for LibreOffice Applications

2010-12-15 Thread Robert Derman
Charles Marcus wrote: On 2010-12-14 9:38 AM, Marc Paré wrote: The thread is discussing the possibility of name changes to some of the modules: Writer, Impress, Calc, Draw, Base, Math. I don't think they are suggesting a name change for LibreOffice in this case. Oh, ok, good... sorry f

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Change executable names] Re: Digest of discuss@documentfoundation.org issue 127 (3742-3762)

2010-12-18 Thread Robert Derman
NoOp wrote: On 12/17/2010 05:53 AM, Jaime R. Garza wrote: As many others already commented, I believe it's time that LibreOffice changes the names of some of the individual applications, my humble proposal: Write Spread Present Draw Formula Base This is critical when attempting to hav

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Name Change for LibreOffice Applications

2010-12-20 Thread Robert Derman
Samuel Mehrbrodt wrote: I think it's good to change the names of the Applications so that they describe what each application does. LibreOffice is the brand which will be known and names of the applications should help to find the application you want to use. I would also suggest to translate the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc

2011-01-02 Thread Robert Derman
Jonathan Aquilina wrote: besides email people want a calendar as well as a to do list as well functionality wise, which Thunderbird seems to lack. On 1/1/11 8:36 PM, Lee Hyde wrote: On 01/01/11 19:20, Craig A. Eddy wrote: So, what am I saying? You don't NEED to add something useless like Out

Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc

2011-01-02 Thread Robert Derman
Ian Lynch wrote: On 1 January 2011 18:43, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Whats really held OOo and will hold LO back is the lack of an equivalent program such as outlook. Why waste time and effort on this when there are other perfectly valid alternatives? Evolution, Thunderbird for open

Re: [tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-18 Thread Robert Derman
Michael Wheatland wrote: On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: Case in point - Michael's work on Drupal would have provided integrated mail list <> forums <> nabble so that any user could use their tool of choice, and all would be interconnected, not isolated, making these

Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Update / Update info

2011-01-24 Thread Robert Derman
Jaime R. Garza wrote: Hello all, for when is it planned to have Automatic Update for Windows & Mac LibreOffice, for Linux usually makes no sense? My opinion, the user should be able to decide if it's completely Automatic, or they only get an info pop window, offering a one click update. Cheers

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Suppression of Blank Lines in Addresses in Labels and Envelopes from Data Base

2011-02-09 Thread Robert Derman
Alan Reeve wrote: On 09/02/2011 12:05, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-02-09 6:12 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: As to your bug correction request, you would be better off filing a bug report at freedesktop.org, which is where TDF has decided that all such reports should be filed, or even better s

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Suppression of Blank Lines in Addresses in Labels and Envelopes from Data Base

2011-02-09 Thread Robert Derman
Alan Reeve wrote: On 09/02/2011 11:12, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 09/02/11 11:49, Alan Reeve a écrit : Hi Alan, As there has been no response, can I ask if I have put my request into the wrong forum or are there too many other organisational problems being addressed presently? I would say

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Computer Magazine cover CDs

2011-02-09 Thread Robert Derman
Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 09/02/11 16:31, Jonathan Aquilina a écrit : Alex there is an article regarding the 20 things about OOo which could be improved if someone has a subscription to linuxformat.co.uk they could download the pd of the article. it would be a great one to follow and make

Re: [tdf-discuss] OpenOffice.org articles in Linux Format March 2011

2011-02-12 Thread Robert Derman
Kevin Hunter wrote: At 4:09pm -0500 Fri, 11 Feb 2011, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-02-11 3:35 PM, Kevin Hunter wrote: How the quickstarter works is have use gobs of memory effectively sitting idle. That doesn't work. Many of us in the computing, engineering, physics, and chemical fields *use*

Re: [tdf-discuss] OpenOffice.org articles in Linux Format March 2011

2011-02-13 Thread Robert Derman
adept techlists - kazar wrote: On 2/12/11 2:04 PM, Robert Derman wrote: Just so you all know, 4 GB of DDR3 RAM can now be purchased for $36. on the internet. In historical terms, that is indeed dirt cheap. My point here is that any new computers being built are unlikely to have less than 2

[tdf-discuss] Need for more compound words for spellcheck dictionary.

2011-02-20 Thread Robert Derman
One of the reasons, perhaps the main reason I have not upgraded to LO from OpenOffice 3.1 yet is that I dread having to go through the process of adding over a thousand compound words to the spellcheck dictionary. This dictionary has almost NO compound words in it! Does anyone know if this pr

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Mac App Store - or else ?

2011-02-23 Thread Robert Derman
Jonathan Aquilina wrote: On 2/23/11 12:25 AM, Valter Mura wrote: In data giovedì 13 gennaio 2011 22:53:59, Fabián Rodríguez ha scritto: On 11-01-12 11:35 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011/01/12 8:49 AM Mirek M. wrote: 2011/1/12 Jonathan Aquilina Why not license it under an appropriate lic

Re: RE : Re: [tdf-discuss] Strange OpenOffice Email from a new universe

2011-02-26 Thread Robert Derman
Charles-H. Schulz wrote: You can copy and paste it here,of course :-) That would be good, since I would like to see it too. Charles. Le 26 févr. 2011, 5:25 PM, "Howard Barr" a écrit : On 27/02/2011 00:54, Italo Vignoli wrote: > > Any chance of getting a copy of such emails? I would l... I

Re: [tdf-discuss] Need for more compound words for spellcheck dictionary.

2011-03-02 Thread Robert Derman
file: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile 2011/2/20 Robert Derman : One of the reasons, perhaps the main reason I have not upgraded to LO from OpenOffice 3.1 yet is that I dread having to go through the process of adding over a thousand compound words to the spellcheck dictionary. This

Re: [tdf-discuss] Need for more compound words for spellcheck dictionary.

2011-03-02 Thread Robert Derman
ed in spellchecking, but nevertheless trying a shot.. Robert Derman schrieb: RGB ES wrote: AFAIK, LibO dictionaries are the same dictionaries from OOo. If you have a custom dictionary where you added the words you miss, you can "import" (I mean, copy to the right location) that dicti

Re: [tdf-discuss] Calc usability issue (autocorrect of small letter to capital letter)

2011-03-08 Thread Robert Derman
Kevin André wrote: Calc seems to autocorrect a small letter to a capital letter after a dot character. But a dot character does not always mean the end of a sentence; in this case it was used for an abbreviation. And sadly there is no way to undo a wrong autocorrection: pressing undo will revert

Re: [Libreoffice] [tdf-discuss] Re: EasyHack on EasyHacks

2011-03-30 Thread Robert Derman
Karl-Heinz Gödderz wrote: Am 29.03.2011 23:24, schrieb Norbert Thiebaud: On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Michael Meeks wrote: I'd also like to hear from some of our new developers that liked that page - again, on the dev list. The easy hack page has hugely grown since

Re: [tdf-discuss] European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.

2011-04-05 Thread Robert Derman
very good spell checker. I am a computer hardware expert, but not a software expert, at least no more than most end users, but perhaps this is something where someone like me might just be able to help. Robert Derman -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@doc

Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Robert Derman
And I found another couple of similarly completely uncategorized forums. The forums at http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ look much more promising, but are not these two products expected to diverge more and more? In my understanding LibreOffice is a new project that _started_ wit

Re: [tdf-discuss] European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.

2011-04-24 Thread Robert Derman
Jon Hamkins wrote: On 04/22/2011 05:33 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi *, On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:40 AM, Jon Hamkins wrote: On 04/06/2011 04:54 AM, toki wrote: There are roughly one billion words in the English language. You could have a LibO spell checker that contains each of those wo

Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Robert Derman
Jaime R. Garza wrote: I have some doubts as to whether the two products will diverge now that Oracle has decided to end its involvement with OpenOffice.org . I suspect that at some point rather than let OOo just whither and die it will merge with The Document Foundation and the two

Re: [tdf-discuss] European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.

2011-04-24 Thread Robert Derman
Jon Hamkins wrote: On 04/24/2011 01:36 PM, Robert Derman wrote: I have said this a number of times, and that at least the English version is sadly deficient in compound words, at least the one in OOo 3.11 which I am still using because I am reluctant to give up the personal dictionary to which

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice Math: "There is no"

2011-05-04 Thread Robert Derman
Olivier Hallot wrote: Em 04-05-2011 13:11, M Henri Day escreveu: 2011/5/4 Olivier Hallot Thanks Mike for the tip As I see, this character U+2204, does not exist in Opensymbol font, used by Math by default. At least not in the displayed characters of Math UI. So, if this symbol get implem

Re: [tdf-discuss] The need of a central employment-office-like web structure for TDF/LibO volunteers

2011-05-15 Thread Robert Derman
sophie wrote: Gianluca, On 15/05/2011 11:44, Gianluca Turconi wrote: Hi Sophie, sophie wrote: the system could be a bug tracker with a less technical UI than BZ, but I think a wiki with a good template could be enough. Why do you say "dispersive"? Because you have to navigate *a lot* through

Re: [tdf-discuss] Digestmails answers with quotes not possible?

2011-05-21 Thread Robert Derman
Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: Hi all, especially those of You receiving mails as digest are requested to report. Some people reported not beeing able getting text of the mail to be quoted in the Editor area. e-letter reported this for gmail, http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Any wikipedia members/contributors here?

2011-05-21 Thread Robert Derman
NoOp wrote: On 05/19/2011 05:18 PM, NoOp wrote: If you are a wikipedia member/contributor, perhaps you can have a look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_OpenDocument_software No mention of LibreOffice. Appearantly that is no longer the case. It is promanently mentioned as of

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice Hackfest in Munich

2011-05-27 Thread Robert Derman
Thorsten Behrens wrote: Florian Effenberger wrote: Thanks for announcing this. Maybe we should also know if you have to be there in person or can you participate remotely? the event is planned on-site. Maybe we can get some remote connection involved, but primarily, it is for hacking

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-05 Thread Robert Derman
Marc Paré wrote: Ahem .., or we could just ignore our ASF lurkers, keep working on our great product, let OOo go unsupported and gather dust as it was in Oracle's hands. We have a truly community oriented and supported product with great licenses as opposed to a restrictive ASF product. We do

Re: [tdf-discuss] Questions from the sidelines.

2011-06-06 Thread Robert Derman
Andy Brown wrote: I seem to be really missing something in all this talk about the transfer of OOo. 1: What would TDF do with the code? At this point in time LibO is way ahead of OOo in features and code clean up, from the patches flying in the dev list. 2: What would TDF do with the Ope

Re: [tdf-discuss] How Close Is TDF...?

2011-06-07 Thread Robert Derman
Italo Vignoli wrote: On 6/7/11 3:21 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: I agree... My "going over it" was simply to indicate areas which I *think* (again, I have no idea, nor do a *want* to know) may have been reasons Oracle declined, since that seems a point that people are extremely curious about. Pro

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-09 Thread Robert Derman
Simon Brouwer wrote: Op 9-6-2011 16:32, Simon Phipps schreef: On 9 Jun 2011, at 12:12, Simon Brouwer wrote: Hi Jim, all, Jim Jagielski schreef: On Jun 8, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: On 8 Jun 2011, at 23:49, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Jun 8, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Simon Brouwer wrote:

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-09 Thread Robert Derman
Volker Merschmann wrote: Hi, 2011/6/9 Simon Brouwer : Suppose Oracle had considered donating the OpenOffice.org trademarks and copyrights to TDF. How could it be the recipient of such a donation if it didn't exist as a legal entity? I'm feeling it's the hundredth time it is told: The

Re: [tdf-discuss] First TDF Advisory Board members demonstrate wide corporate support for LibreOffice

2011-06-15 Thread Robert Derman
Florian Effenberger wrote: First TDF Advisory Board members demonstrate wide corporate support for LibreOffice Strong backing for a truly free and vendor-neutral office suite The Document Foundation provides solid grounds to build upon The Document Foundation today announced the first members

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-16 Thread Robert Derman
Augustine Souza wrote: On 6/15/11, Allen Pulsifer wrote: ... End users do not care about who's right, who's wrong, who's been slighted, who is more pure, etc. They just care about products and technologies that are going to meet their needs. Painting quite a poor picture of end users

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-16 Thread Robert Derman
Greg Stein wrote: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 13:40, Pieter E. Zanstra wrote: As an interested user I see a lot of noise passing by on this topic. I must say I am totally unimpressed. What counts for me is reality, not dreaming in the cloud. I was used to getting no response from Microsoft on my

Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-18 Thread Robert Derman
Simos Xenitellis wrote: On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Ignoring the repetition on who is entitled to source code and how they are told about it, I would like to know the answers to some very specific, tangible matters closer to home. My question is basically wh

Re: [tdf-discuss] Replacing OpenOffice.org with LibreOffice much easier than expected.

2011-06-18 Thread Robert Derman
I have a few observations to make, as to future changes/improvements. I for one am very reluctant to frequently upgrade any major software application that must be downloaded and replaced in its entirety, particularly if there is not a published list of the improvements in the new releas

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-22 Thread Robert Derman
Ian Lynch wrote: On 22 June 2011 11:11, Italo Vignoli wrote: On 6/22/11 9:38 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: I have added some comments on the Discussion page. If you think it is better, I'll be glad to bring the items on this list. I think both ways are OK. I am collecting all email

Re: [tdf-discuss] Sponsored Bug Repair ?

2011-06-23 Thread Robert Derman
Cor Nouws wrote: Hi Samuel, Samuel M wrote (23-06-11 17:06) Why should'nt TDF go ahead and employ one of the former OOo developers or someone else from the community? I think there would be much interest from users and companys to pay for fixing bugs / implementing new features. Employing peo

Re: [tdf-discuss] New "LibreOffice Reader" Eliminates Need for "PDF Reader"

2011-06-23 Thread Robert Derman
Simon Phipps wrote: On 23 Jun 2011, at 23:32, Marc Paré wrote: I think it was mentioned that there were at one point over 100 million LibreOffice/OOo users. If we were to develop our own "LibreOffice Reader" we would already have 100 million potential users for our product. Not only that,

Re: [tdf-discuss] New "LibreOffice Reader" Eliminates Need for "PDF Reader"

2011-06-23 Thread Robert Derman
Varun Mittal wrote: I personally feel we have more important set of priorities than diversifying right now into PDF reader. Also no point inventing the wheel again when there are several open source pdf readers available which we can integrate instead of developing one of our own. I am wonder

Re: [tdf-discuss] New "LibreOffice Reader" Eliminates Need for "PDF Reader"

2011-06-24 Thread Robert Derman
On 24/06/2011 03:59, Marc Paré wrote: The initial use of the "LibreOffice Reader" would be just a plain reader, the challenge after this would be to try to build as much document fidelity into it as possible. Again, with the hopes to rival .pdf fidelity. Maybe once all the devs put their head

Re: [tdf-discuss] When can we have a API to send Emails ?

2011-06-24 Thread Robert Derman
Fernand Vanrie wrote: Cor , I know all this tricks, but its still sending as attachments , i want a simple way to send a email with a message in the body Thanks Fernand I would like this also, the auto corrector of LO makes it much faster to write emails than T-Bird or any other email clien

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard

2011-06-24 Thread Robert Derman
plino wrote: Charles-H. Schulz wrote: So, let me state and restate this : ODF will not embed fonts in the 1.2, 1.3, nor in the future, because the format is not meant to focus on faithful layout rendering. Instead, PDF is meant that. ODF focuses on office document exchanges. As long as O

Re: [tdf-discuss] New "LibreOffice Reader" Eliminates Need for "PDF Reader"

2011-06-25 Thread Robert Derman
the right direction again in the transition from reader 9 to reader 10, and dumping some unnecessary crap. -Original Message- From: Robert Derman [mailto:robert.der...@pressenter.com] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 21:24 To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] New

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Font Embedding in ODF

2011-06-25 Thread Robert Derman
Nuno J. Silva wrote: On 2011-06-25, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: On 06/25/2011 02:09 PM, Nuno J. Silva wrote: I see font embedding as a way to make interoperation easier, and not to achieve faithful representation. I think a major goal is to have ODF being used on several platforms,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard

2011-06-25 Thread Robert Derman
Marc Paré wrote: Le 2011-06-24 18:01, Nuno J. Silva a écrit : On 2011-06-24, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2011-06-24 13:13, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Hello, Le Fri, 24 Jun 2011 07:48:54 -0700 (PDT), plino a écrit : I really hope that revision 1.2 allows for font embedding in ODF documents. IMO

Re: [tdf-discuss] New "LibreOffice Reader" Eliminates Need for "PDF Reader"

2011-06-26 Thread Robert Derman
Sean White wrote: I dont thinks thats normal somehow, i have been using Adobe Reader for years and have NEVER had it come past 200MB. Back to discussion, what's with all the PDF hate. Actually I don't hate PDF, I use it frequently and as such I am glad that OOo and LO have the capability of ou

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