Re: [FC-discuss] "Personal appeal from Jimmy Wales"

2010-11-17 Thread Fred Benenson
There is clearly a celebrity factor involved, and this is something that many Wikipedians find unappealing. The issue is that the majority on donations are probably coming from people who don't think about it on this level. They see a compelling ask from someone they tangentially recognize as b

Re: [FC-discuss] COICA approved this morning.

2010-11-18 Thread Fred Benenson
The consensus seems to be that it'll die in session, so it feels more like posturing, but still very scary. ~ ~ ~ thoughts / http://fredbenenson.com/blog work / http://kickstarter.com sights / http://flickr.com/fcb sounds / http://www.last.fm/user/mecredis status / http://twitter.com/mecredis O

Re: [FC-discuss] Should a government or corporation control a style? Discuss.

2010-12-11 Thread Fred Benenson
Lex are you thinking about organizing on campus about this? F On Dec 11, 2010, at 11:23 PM, Lex wrote: But you can use fashion style as an example... On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 4:22 AM, Lex wrote: > Any style > > On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 4:19 AM, Rich Jones wrote: > >> Style of what? >> >>

Re: [FC-discuss] Should a government or corporation control a style? Discuss.

2010-12-11 Thread Fred Benenson
style... this is what is happening in congress we are freeculture.org let's do this guys... On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Fred Benenson wrote: > Lex are you thinking about organizing on campus about this? > > F > > On Dec 11, 2010, at 11:23 PM, Lex wrote: > &g

Re: [FC-discuss] sfc tumblr?

2011-02-28 Thread Fred Benenson
Tumblr has it's issues, but it's network effects are what make it most compelling: posts go viral quickly inside the tumblr world and that can be a very powerful platform. So while you could try to replicate the functionality with Wordpress and RSS, the audience likely wouldn't be the same. F On

Re: [FC-discuss] Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Assn. affirmed

2011-06-27 Thread Fred Benenson
Just to clarify this for those who don't recognize the case -- this is about the government's ability to restrict sales of video games to minors. This is the best possible outcome. ~ ~ ~ thoughts / http://fredbenenson.com/blog work / http://kickstarter.com sights / http://flickr.com/fcb sounds /

Re: [FC-discuss] Fwd: Urgent -- Aaron was just arrested

2011-07-19 Thread Fred Benenson
As someone pointed out to me on Twitter if the action is criminal then pressing charges via the victim doesn't matter. And as I also posted, it feels like the Skylarov where Adobe alerted the government, then backed down due to bad press, but the FBI pressed on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitr

[FC-discuss] ACLU Technologist Gig

2011-07-25 Thread Fred Benenson
Hi Free Culture, Wanted to pass along this awesome ACLU gig in case you guys didn't already see it through the regular channels: http://www.aclu.org/job/technologistsenior-policy-analyst-acluf-speech-privacy-and-technology-project-ny Here's a clip of their overview: TECHNOLOGIST / Senior Polic

Re: [FC-discuss] Bank Migration: Join the Flock

2011-11-04 Thread Fred Benenson
Awesome work, thusly tweeted. blog | kickstarter | sights | sounds | @fredbenenson On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Matt

[FC-discuss] Fwd: We're hiring for Community Support - please forward

2012-06-12 Thread Fred Benenson
ne of caffeine-deprived customers counts)! If you're involved in your own creative projects, definitely let us know. See the complete job listing here <http://www.kickstarter.com/jobs> and imagine yourself here <http://www.kickstarter.com/team

Re: [FC-discuss] Very Sad News

2013-01-12 Thread Fred Benenson
I'm shattered. I ran into him the night before and said Hi. He was with another group of people having drinks at the bar I was at and seemed in good spirits. Impossible to process. On Jan 12, 2013, at 9:36 AM, David Riordan wrote: I'm just waking up to this and in total shock. I only had the ple

Re: [FC-discuss] [SFC-Core] new york times inquiry re: aaron swartz

2013-01-12 Thread Fred Benenson
I use BY and WSJ still got in contact with me to ask permission. It's on their homepage now and I know they are looking for more photos, so it'd be good to contribute them if you can. On Jan 12, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: Sage - really? You wouldn't give them either a -BY or a nontra

Re: [FC-discuss] Echo!

2015-02-05 Thread Fred Benenson
This is totally weird > On Feb 5, 2015, at 10:16 PM, Rich Jones wrote: > > Just kind of checking in on the health of the organization.. > > I noticed that the website has been re-licensed under a new and completely > made up license - http://freeculture.org/about/license/ - and that the >

[FC-discuss] DRM Protest

2005-10-27 Thread Fred Benenson
REVOLUCION! www.freecultureNYU.org/DRM/ for more info. ps: we got a _ton_ of press for it check out ..  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=DRM+Protest&btnG=Google+Search-- Fred Benenson http://www.fredbenenson.com << photobloghttp://www.freeculture.org << intellectual p

[FC-discuss] You're invited to FreeCulture.org's New York City Regional Summit

2005-12-15 Thread Fred Benenson
Greetings,   I'm writing to invite you to FreeCulture.org's NYC Regional Summit on January 13th and 14th. If you're part of the university community in the area and are interested in FreeCulture, this would be a great opportunity to learn more about us and we would love it if you could attend. You'

[FC-discuss] Fwd: Be careful what you say about DRM, it may lead to a pink slip.

2006-01-31 Thread Fred Benenson
#x27;s will think twice before firing people over their relatively sensible views on bad technology and bad laws. Thanks, Fred Benenson Free Culture @ NYU, President 04-05 http://www.fredbenenson.com << photobloghttp://iwasthere.fredbenenson.com << weekly podcast, airing wednesdays htt

[FC-discuss] Fwd: Free Culture @ NYU 2006

2006-08-31 Thread Fred Benenson
-- Forwarded message --From: Fred Benenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Aug 30, 2006 4:08 PM Subject: Free Culture @ NYU 2006To: "Free Culture @ NYU's list serv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Discuss@freeculture.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Greetings All,   I hope you&#x

Re: [FC-discuss] [Announce] Discuss email list

2007-02-01 Thread Fred Benenson
Yes I agree! F On 2/1/07, Dana Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do you guys think we could change the list heading back to [fc-discuss] / [fc-announce] ? Dana On 1/31/07, Asheesh Laroia < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (This is a repost from our blog. If you saw it at > http://freeculture.

Re: [FC-discuss] Gene Patents?

2007-02-18 Thread Fred Benenson
Also, everyone's favorite republican futurist scare monger's got a good op-ed here: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/13/opinion/13crichton.html F On 2/18/07, Matt Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: also see http://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/v25/n2/abs/nbt0207-185.html -

Re: [FC-discuss] CC, the logo, and does FC = Remix?

2007-02-26 Thread Fred Benenson
Does anyone else find it ironic that Creative Commons remixed our logo for the remix icon? But in all seriousness... this might be a trademark issue; the question is, do or should we, as a progressive group working in "intellectual property" reform, care? It's obviously important for marks to ret

Re: [FC-discuss] CC, the logo, and does FC = Remix?

2007-02-26 Thread Fred Benenson
Yeah, I'd be interested in seeing that -- then we solve the problem and get a new look. Anyone up for the task? F On 2/26/07, Janet Hawtin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: perhaps a FC logo which doesnt use lego(tm) might be a good idea anyway? ___ Discu

Re: [FC-discuss] CC/fc.o/Tot

2007-02-27 Thread Fred Benenson
IANAL, but isn't this conversation missing the crucial point that Termination of Transfer rights are unwaivable? Perhaps this is besides the point, but it would seem that it applies equally to every other kind of license (GPL, FDL, real commercial licenses), so CC is no worse off than the rest of

Re: [FC-discuss] CC/fc.o/Tot

2007-02-27 Thread Fred Benenson
While I do agree that there is scarce evidence that providing intellectual property protections is better than providing no copyright protection, I'm not sure if this is the productive way to look at things. We're stuck with a system that is unwieldy, and for most purposes, broken, but I, and I t

Re: [FC-discuss] CC/fc.o/Tot

2007-02-27 Thread Fred Benenson
On 2/27/07, Janet Hawtin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK if you swap my example from a software example to a piece of research I think the concern still exists. Pulling the central concept out of the mix does not feel like a step forward. I'm not sure what you mean by "central concept." But if

Re: [FC-discuss] CC/fc.o/Tot

2007-02-27 Thread Fred Benenson
ESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Fred Benenson wrote: > Indeed, Public Library of Science, and a lot of > other open access journals all depend on Creative Commons (and in turn, > copyright) for licensing of their works. Attribution is a good thing to protect. I believe an attribution req

Re: [FC-discuss] CC/fc.o/Tot

2007-02-27 Thread Fred Benenson
On 2/27/07, Janet Hawtin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My concern is that tot is a project to enable authors to remove access. Regardless of whether or not CC develops a tool, authors will always be able to "remove access" via ToT. Moreover, CC doesn't actually do the removing of the access, the

Re: [FC-discuss] CC/fc.o/Tot

2007-02-27 Thread Fred Benenson
On 2/27/07, Crosbie Fitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Fred Benenson >But suppose we don't want to take it in that direction -- How can we be effective, >or even taken seriously if we're suggesting nothing less than abolishment of copyright? I take it you're

Re: [FC-discuss] Fwd: WSJ: layperson's perspective on digital copyright

2007-03-22 Thread Fred Benenson
http://www.freeculturenyu.org/2007/03/15/ray-beckerman-nyu/ Ray's coming tonight to discuss what we can do, and his Open Letter to Universities: http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/03/open-letter-to-universities-whose.html Will report more on FC @ NYU's action after tonight...

Re: [FC-discuss] Manifesto for Counter-Measures Against Cartel Extorition of Unive rsity Students

2007-03-29 Thread Fred Benenson
the student without them being present. Ray Beckerman has a good open letter explaining this here: http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/03/open-letter-to-universities-whose.html I'd be interested in endorsing, even using this letter, as part of a campaign across our

Re: [FC-discuss] Manifesto for Counter-Measures Against Cartel Extorition of Unive rsity Students

2007-03-29 Thread Fred Benenson
Culture standpoint? > What's our national stance? > > I'd also like to bring up the "open letter to universities" but am not > sure if this would be the right setting. > > Thanks, > Frank Morton-Park > Reed Free Culture > > Fred Benenson wrote: >

Re: [FC-discuss] FC Nat'l Conf -- April 28th -- Boston?

2007-04-05 Thread Fred Benenson
Yes, and there's that MiT5 and Access to Knowledge conference that weekend. My exams finish up May 9th.. F On 4/5/07, Elizabeth Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Okay so some people have responded saying that this conflicts with exams. Would holding a conference after exams be any better? Unf

Re: [FC-discuss] FC Nat'l Conf -- April 28th -- Boston?

2007-04-05 Thread Fred Benenson
That's good for me. What about our Music gig? Should we merge them? F On 4/5/07, Elizabeth Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ah yes -- we also conflicted with A2K last year -- probably not the best idea. How about May 26? On 4/5/07, Fred Benenson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: [FC-discuss] FC Nat'l Conf -- April 28th -- Boston?

2007-04-05 Thread Fred Benenson
Indeed. I was planning on being at the MiT5 conference. And aren't you two presenting on Saturday anyway? F On 4/5/07, Benj. Mako Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah yes -- we also conflicted with A2K last year -- probably not the best > idea. How about May 26? Actually, if you do April

Re: [FC-discuss] Article 27 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights

2007-04-09 Thread Fred Benenson
Yes, the UDHR doesn't do that much for me either. Though what's interesting is that it's looking like the most popular moral right is usually that of attribution -- the right for your work to be correctly identified as yours, and for work of others not to be attributed as yours. While the rest of

Re: [FC-discuss] Free Thesis Project Released Today

2007-05-03 Thread Fred Benenson
This may seem trite, but a favorite aphorism of mine has always been "Its easier to kick over a sand castle than it is to build one." And it seems particularly appropriate here. So, Matthew, what are the specifications of the sand castle that you would build? It seems you take particular objectio

Re: [FC-discuss] Free Thesis Project Released Today

2007-05-04 Thread Fred Benenson
On 5/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Quoting Crosbie Fitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Any scholar who has a web site and deliberately provides only abstracts to > their papers rather than the full text (only available to > 'members/subscribers'), is demonstrating a lack of philan

Re: [FC-discuss] Free Thesis Project Released Today

2007-05-04 Thread Fred Benenson
This issue is more complex than this thread is letting on. It's my understanding that universities that hold their student's rights hostage are in the minority, and only do so when they are substantially tied to an industry. USC and the film industry come to mind, and MIT and the biotech industry

Re: [FC-discuss] Free Thesis Project Released Today

2007-05-05 Thread Fred Benenson
t would be a lot easier to make a short list of some of the worst ones. This seems very well suited to our role as a student organization, and could be a good way to kickstart discussions at those campuses. Gavin Asheesh Laroia wrote: > On Fri, 4 May 2007, Fred Benenson wrote: > >> M

Re: [FC-discuss] Free Thesis Project Released Today

2007-05-06 Thread Fred Benenson
If you're interesting in abdicating all rights of/to copyright (using not license at all), I suggest you read up on the Public Domain. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Domain Creative Commons also has a Public Domain dedication process: http://creativecommons.org/license/publicdomain-2?lang=

Re: [FC-discuss] [OT] new T-shirt.

2007-05-14 Thread Fred Benenson
hrm, asheesh might have a point there. are the shirts already made? if not, i'd suggest reworking it... the imagery of the tank vs. the child isn't exactly as positive as you might think. that guy was thrown in jail and possibly killed. it's a valiant, symbolic act, but kind of futile. there's a g

Re: [FC-discuss] Free Software and Free Culture

2007-05-29 Thread Fred Benenson
I don't really understand why this is happening on the blog? Why not relegate this discussion to the talk pages of the wiki? Or even this list? Or even comments on the blog post itself? My feeling is that the blog should function as a tool to post news items that are relevant to FC... F On 5/2

Re: [FC-discuss] Free Software and Free Culture

2007-05-29 Thread Fred Benenson
Right, but the problem is -- the act of using "culture" is different from the act of using software. Where some rights for enjoying software freely might be necessary (to inspect code, share, etc.), it's not clear that those freedoms are necessary for me to enjoy a movie, for example. Is it cruci

Re: [FC-discuss] Free Software and Free Culture

2007-06-01 Thread Fred Benenson
I think it's also related to the nature of the content. We "use" software, and to be precluded from doing certain things from it (learning, sharing) is counterintuitive since we're considering it essentially a tool for getting jobs done. The On 6/1/07, Benj. Mako Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [FC-discuss] Free Software and Free Culture

2007-06-01 Thread Fred Benenson
While I may rate a new novel with lukewarm praise, I am unlikely to participate in its revision. Right, and more importantly, there's no space for you to do so so. As much as I'd like to think about culture as 100% remixable all the time, the fact is that finished novels are substantially diffe

Re: [FC-discuss] Free Software and Free Culture

2007-06-01 Thread Fred Benenson
if they require the same kind of freedoms that our tools do. Is it wrong to watch a film if I cannot get access to its source material, just as it's wrong to use software whose source I cannot access? The film is obviously not free culture -- but is it ethically wrong for me to support it?

Re: [FC-discuss] Some freedom unnecessary for users of non-functional works and in dustrial devices

2007-06-06 Thread Fred Benenson
License proliferation is a problem, and to that extent, I think Stallman's views on the GPL are really just attempts at avoiding more licenses out there that might or might not be free. In Stallman's ideally free world, we don't choose our license, as there is only one that exists, and one that pr

Re: [FC-discuss] Some freedom unnecessary for users of non-functional works and in dustrial devices

2007-06-06 Thread Fred Benenson
Yes this is very positive. CC keep doing good stuff. So now all available CC licenses have a baseline of freedom, does this mean Stallman will support the CC licenses again? Good question, especially considering the original post's point about Stallman's distinctions within culture. Assuming he

Re: [FC-discuss] Some freedom unnecessary for users of non-functional works and in dustrial devices

2007-06-06 Thread Fred Benenson
This is where we differ. I would read CC's provision of multiple licences more as an attempt to foster a sort of pluralism within the Free Culture / liberal licencing community, rather than as an implicit assertion that authors have a right to dictate how their work is used. It's a subtle differen

Re: [FC-discuss] A Free Culture Finance Swarm?

2007-06-11 Thread Fred Benenson
Tim, I think this is probably the best way to progress with things. FreeCulture.org isn't in a vacuum and at some point will probably need to deal with income of some sort. That said, I think specifically budgeting the income and properly allocating it before it's raised is probably the best way

Re: [FC-discuss] A Free Culture Finance Swarm?

2007-06-12 Thread Fred Benenson
I'm enthused to see so many people interested in raising money for Free Culture, but I'm still left wondering, what are we going to do with the money once we have it? I know web hosting is an expense, but after that's accounted for, what's next? I'd be happier about marching towards 501c3 status

Re: [FC-discuss] FC-Ca$hmoney$ List

2007-06-13 Thread Fred Benenson
Unless that server crashes and we spend months trying to resurrect it unsuccessfully retrieving lost e-mails and accounts. Sorry, that was just hugely annoying and despite my reservations with Google's various policies, there are some incentives to using an external gratis service that will likel

Re: [FC-discuss] free scholarly resources for literary criticism?

2007-06-21 Thread Fred Benenson
On 6/21/07, Crosbie Fitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Brian Rowe >Note: The following is a response to Crosbie, who I believe only posts >to stir up debate. After this response I will go back to discussing things only with people who are here to help free culture. I'm reminded of the Anim

Re: [FC-discuss] FC.o gets organized this summer

2007-07-22 Thread Fred Benenson
Hi, Unfortunately we're only soliciting comments on the talk page on the wiki -- if you are not comfortable using that process then I'm afraid you can't participate. best, F On 7/22/07, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "FreeCulture.org - Students for Free Culture" wrote: >[2]: http://

[FC-discuss] Rhizome Launches Creative Commons Licenses

2007-07-26 Thread Fred Benenson
to each others' work in furtherance of their goals. Rhizome would like to thank Wendy Seltzer, Fellow at the Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard Law School, for her guidance and Fred Benenson, Creative Commons Cultural Fellow and student at New York University's Interactive

[FC-discuss] Fwd: [cc-community] Volunteers for Linux World Needed!

2007-08-01 Thread Fred Benenson
Hey everyone, if you're in SF, here's a great chance to meet and volunteer for Creative Commons! You also get to get into LinuxWorld for free. Check out the fwd.. F -- Forwarded message -- From: Cameron Parkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Jul 31, 2007 2:31 PM Subject: [cc-commun

[FC-discuss] Boycott Regal Cinemas

2007-08-08 Thread Fred Benenson
Click here <http://www.fandango.com/theaterlistings.aspx?pn=1&location=> for a page where you can find Regal Cinemas in your area. We wish Jhannet the best of luck in defending herself against Regal Cinemas and hope that the chain will soon realize how inappropriate and sadi

Re: [FC-discuss] Boycott Regal Cinemas

2007-08-08 Thread Fred Benenson
t out on BoingBoing: > > > > http://www.boingboing.net/2007/08/08/boycott_regal_cinema.html > > > > > > On 8/8/07, Fred Benenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Free Culture.org, > &

[FC-discuss] Fwd: Regal Cinemas

2007-09-08 Thread Fred Benenson
FYI I just found this in Free Culture @ NYU's inbox... Not really sure if it's worth responding to at this point, considering Jhannet settled. F -- Forwarded message -- From: Free Culture @ NYU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sep 8, 2007 6:44 PM Subject: Fwd: Regal Cinemas To: [EMAIL

Re: [FC-discuss] regal boycott

2007-09-09 Thread Fred Benenson
The cam ban laws are remarkably similar to anti-bootlegging laws, that many believe are actually unconstitutional in that they're protecting work that isn't fixed. Since live musicians are not performing sound recordings (with the exception of acts like Mili-Vanilli ... :) they don't actually have

Re: [FC-discuss] Grammy Foundation and Legal Writing competition for Law Students

2007-09-20 Thread Fred Benenson
Yah, and if they refuse, we could shame them and call them out on it. Coincidentally, I know someone who actually won this award, but I'm not sure that makes much of a difference. F On 9/20/07, Dana Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ask if they'd settle for a non-exclusive license? > > > W

Re: [FC-discuss] [FC-Discuss] Universities and free content

2007-10-01 Thread Fred Benenson
Free Culture @ NYU is working on a "hit list" this year. So far we have USC and UH at the top of the list, but it's going to take a bit of research to find it out about other universities out there. We're planning on publishing it right when High School seniors have to make a decision about where

Re: [FC-discuss] [FC-Discuss] Universities and free content

2007-10-01 Thread Fred Benenson
tion writing season, > but school courting is an ongoing process that can take up most of high > school for some people. > > I think such a list would make a nice splash almost regardless of timing. > I say get it out there whenever it's ready. > > Fred Benenson wrote: >

Re: [FC-discuss] [FC-Discuss] Universities and free content

2007-10-01 Thread Fred Benenson
to [EMAIL > PROTECTED], but > wikiship means authorship would be a tricky business. > > Just enjoying the game, my friends > > Asheesh Laroia wrote: > > On Mon, 1 Oct 2007, Fred Benenson wrote: > >Indeed, but couching it with enough context is what makes a

Re: [FC-discuss] [FC-Discuss] Universities and free content

2007-10-01 Thread Fred Benenson
ore locked down, mandating for instance > proprietary eBook reading software. I've read a lot, as I'm sure you all > have, about public libraries having the problem of satisfying the masses, > meaning essentially that because people aren't clamoring for open access, > they&#x

Re: [FC-discuss] [FC-Discuss] Universities and free content

2007-10-01 Thread Fred Benenson
s, etc. We should post to digg / boingboing / slashdot. It'll get a lot of good press. F On 10/1/07, Fred Benenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, good point -- eBook software "acceptance" is a good issue. > > Also > > #5) Blackboard v. Sakai v. Moodle vs.

Re: [FC-discuss] [FC-Discuss] Universities and free content

2007-10-01 Thread Fred Benenson
nd sending it out to chapters > more directly. Also, if people have contacts at other schools, no > reason why they can't also fill it out... > > Once we get the PR, we should have a way for people to submit a survey > about their own school, even if they don't have

Re: [FC-discuss] FreeCulture.org is now Students for Free Culture

2007-10-02 Thread Fred Benenson
Yes, it's a shame that some people can't find value in campus organizing as there's surely precedent. Crosbie: why not consider an organization such as iCommons which has much broader goals and membership? F On 10/2/07, Thomas (TJ) Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > absolutely disagree--stude

Re: [FC-discuss] FreeCulture.org is now Students for Free Culture

2007-10-03 Thread Fred Benenson
On 10/3/07, Christina Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The best way to help small chapters is to build an organization that can > > help them effectively, which is why we wrote the bylaws. > > > I brought this up at the by-laws meeting and am willing to do so again: > many of the problems that c

Re: [FC-discuss] SFC in NYT

2007-10-10 Thread Fred Benenson
Yeah, oh well. Rachel told me that she didn't write the headline either... F On 10/10/07, Elizabeth Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hmm..I remember saying the *first* part of my quote, but I don't think I > said the second..Also, this is patently (haha) false. > > [At the national confer

Re: [FC-discuss] SFC in NYT

2007-10-10 Thread Fred Benenson
The headline thing is just classic NYTimes: lead with something sensationalist... its just how news papers work. At least we can say RTFA to people. F On 10/10/07, Elizabeth Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh she actually she did mention free as in freedom in the second part > (oops), but

Re: [FC-discuss] SFC in NYT

2007-10-10 Thread Fred Benenson
I'm not sure what you mean by this but I still don't see the value of using the phrase "intellectual property" anymore... F On Oct 10, 2007, at 12:37 PM, "Crosbie Fitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > STUDENTS FOR FREE CULTURE - Sharing knowledge, sharing art > > A movement for civil right

Re: [FC-discuss] SFC in NYT

2007-10-10 Thread Fred Benenson
Yeah, I liked the RIAA quote too. I couldn't tell if it was a good thing or bad thing that they didn't know who we were. They're either too dense.. or we're not doing our job well enough. And agree about the open v. free thing. I suppose I'm not really a vocab jihadist at heart. Yes, we do meet w

Re: [FC-discuss] SFC in NYT

2007-10-10 Thread Fred Benenson
On 10/10/07, Crosbie Fitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: Asheesh Laroia > > P.S. I imagine we can make the point about free-as-in-freedom > > more clearly if spokespeople for SFC preface their interviews with > saying, > > > "I don't knowingly share or download copyrighted works without th

Re: [FC-discuss] SFC in NYT

2007-10-10 Thread Fred Benenson
ff as. Surely not the enlightened dialog that I'm, and I'm sure others are looking for in this movement. I feel that you are grossly misunderstanding the strategy involved with interfacing with the press, but I may be wrong on this. F On 10/10/07, Crosbie Fitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

[FC-discuss] Fwd: [cc-community] CC Birthday

2007-10-10 Thread Fred Benenson
Free Culture -- Here's your chance to help out throwing CC a birthday party in December. I'm currently working on setting up a party in NYC for that weekend, but you should definitely consider doing one in your locale.. Check the fwd for more details. F -- Forwarded message -- F

Re: [FC-discuss] Fwd: [cc-community] CC Birthday

2007-10-11 Thread Fred Benenson
> > --Anirudh > > On 10/11/07, Elizabeth Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It's unfortunate that that time frame conflicts with finals for many > > people. We won't be doing anything during that time because of exams. > > > > On

Re: [FC-discuss] The NYT published my letter!

2007-10-12 Thread Fred Benenson
x27;t kept it so short. > > Very well done, Elizabeth, and congratulations on getting this through. > > Conor > > Fred Benenson wrote: > > Congrats. I'm glad you kept it short... just kidding. > > Nice that the NYTimes editors realized there's value in our real >

Re: [FC-discuss] The NYT published my letter!

2007-10-12 Thread Fred Benenson
Congrats. I'm glad you kept it short... just kidding. Nice that the NYTimes editors realized there's value in our real perspective on this. F On 10/12/07, Elizabeth Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (And it's at the top of the list too!) > > Free in Speech, Not Cost - New York Times > > http:

Re: [FC-discuss] Domain names

2007-10-12 Thread Fred Benenson
yeah, I'm happy to buy studentsforfreeculture.org and we can sort it out later f On 10/12/07, Elizabeth Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We probably don't want to go domain crazy, but I agree that we should > purchase SFFC and have it redirect to fc.o. > > -e > > On 10/12/07, Conor Schaefer

Re: [FC-discuss] The NYT published my letter!

2007-10-13 Thread Fred Benenson
heh, talk to Joi about that: http://joi.ito.com/archives/2007/09/18/in_japan_stagnation_wins_again_my_op_ed_in_the_new_york_times.html F On 10/13/07, Elizabeth Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BTW, I'm releasing the letter under a CC-BY license. I've already had a > request to translate i

Re: [FC-discuss] The NYT published my letter!

2007-10-13 Thread Fred Benenson
e one. > > So as far as I'm concerned, I can definitely license it CC-BY. > > Or were you talking about getting the license in there at all? (I was in a > rush when they wrote back so didn't mention it -- just wanted to get it > published.) > > On 10/13/07

[FC-discuss] Hit List work

2007-10-22 Thread Fred Benenson
Hi everyone, I'm working on the Hit List here: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Hit_List and realized we should create individual pages for universities so that we don't get stuck filling out a massive chart. So I've created http://wiki.freeculture.org/Hit_List/NYU and copied the questions into it her

Re: [FC-discuss] Newspaper article at GWU.

2007-10-22 Thread Fred Benenson
Nate, Thanks for posting the article! Did your letter make it in? Let me know if you have any specific questions about starting a chapter, otherwise, just go and do it! Best, Fred On 10/17/07, Nate Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi. I hope this is the correct thing to discuss here. If

Re: [FC-discuss] Rock and roll groups should free its music.

2007-10-22 Thread Fred Benenson
Yes, I think its a good idea too, but unfortunately the "big rock and roll groups" are mostly controlled by record executives who don't really want to allow people to share music. on the other hand, there are groups like The Grateful Dead and Phish whom actively encourage their fans to share their

Re: [FC-discuss] Rock and roll groups should free its music.

2007-10-22 Thread Fred Benenson
following the > Radiohead model? (At least those that are more well-known and have large, > established fan bases.) > > On 10/22/07, Fred Benenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Yes, I think its a good idea too, but unfortunately the "big rock and > >

Re: [FC-discuss] Rock and roll groups should free its music.

2007-10-22 Thread Fred Benenson
t step that could have a profound impact on > > the industry, but it seems like Free Culture would advocate going one step > > further in terms of reserving rights. > > > > Will > > > > > > On 10/22/07, Elizabeth Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >

Re: [FC-discuss] Rock and roll groups should free its music.

2007-10-22 Thread Fred Benenson
t; > > > Right, but my point is that legally, the may have only wanted people to > > download from their site and NOT from elsewhere, thus not allowing > > redistribution. (And also not allowing higher bitrates.) > > > > This probably isn't the case, but this seems

[FC-discuss] StudentsForFreeCulture.org is LIVE!

2007-10-22 Thread Fred Benenson
So update your bookmarks. We'll be phasing out referencing www.freeculture.org eventually, though the domain will probably always point to www.studentsforfreeculture.org F ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@freeculture.org http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/m

Re: [FC-discuss] StudentsForFreeCulture.org is LIVE!

2007-10-22 Thread Fred Benenson
OH right. I stand corrected. Foolish me for not perusing the ByLaws before I post... F On 10/22/07, Asheesh Laroia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, Fred Benenson wrote: > > > So update your bookmarks. > > > > We'll be phasing out refe

Re: [FC-discuss] TV-Links and Oink

2007-10-23 Thread Fred Benenson
I think it's an interesting thought to distinguish what TV Links was doing with what OiNK was doing. That is, is there a difference between embedding hyperlinked HTTP objects and running a Bit Torrent tracker? F On 10/23/07, Asheesh Laroia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Ke

Re: [FC-discuss] TV-Links and Oink

2007-10-23 Thread Fred Benenson
It looks to be one of those "arrest now and ask questions later" kind of tactics that were used against DVD Jon and The Pirate Bay. They do this against cyclists in NYC to break up the Critical Mass rides -- people get thrown into jail as a punishment rather than a act of the legal process and by

Re: [FC-discuss] Suggestions for open content awareness event

2007-10-23 Thread Fred Benenson
Denver, if you have the time, I'd highly reccomend a Good Copy Bad Copy screening: http://www.freeculturenyu.org/2007/10/08/good-copy-bad-copy-screening/ you can download the film here: http://goodcopybadcopy.blip.tv Also consider handing out copies of CC's live CD: http://wiki.creativecommons

Re: [FC-discuss] ccLearn intern position at Creative Commons

2007-10-24 Thread Fred Benenson
First, Creative Commons created and maintains both the CC-BY and CC-BY- SA licenses, which I assume you consider part of free culture. Second, CC fosters and promotes these licenses and exploration of the goals cental to free culture. Just because the organization doesn't narrowly and singlemi

Re: [FC-discuss] NIH mandate

2007-10-25 Thread Fred Benenson
Jennifer, This is great news! Congratulations and thanks, on behalf of Students For Free Culture for all your and ATA's work on it. I wore my PLoS shirt today in celebration. F On 10/25/07, Jennifer McLennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry for the delay, all. I've just subscribed. Ple

Re: [FC-discuss] Suggestions for open content awareness event

2007-10-25 Thread Fred Benenson
rent > protocol will ensure that the file I download hasn't been modified, > but I want to make sure. I was unable to find an MD5 checksum for the > video anywhere. Could someone run "md5" on their version of Good Copy > Bad Copy and send me the checksum? > > Denv

[FC-discuss] Fwd: Google v. Viacom Tomorrow

2007-10-25 Thread Fred Benenson
The google v. viacom trial is having a hearing in NYC tomorrow... check out my FC @ NYU announcement: -- Forwarded message -- From: Fred Benenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Oct 25, 2007 5:51 PM Subject: Google v. Viacom Tomorrow To: "Free Culture @ NYU's li

Re: [FC-discuss] Friday 26 October 2007 Viacom vs Google Federal Copyright Case

2007-10-26 Thread Fred Benenson
t; > Tim > > > > > > > > > On 26 Oct 2007, at 08:33, Nelson Pavlosky wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Sorry Jay, but you did promise to stop posting notices of local > > events > > >> to this global discussion list, and I don't

Re: [FC-discuss] Fwd: Google v. Viacom Tomorrow

2007-10-26 Thread Fred Benenson
t; > With the loss of Oink and TV-Links, our distributed libraries of > culture are clearly not safe. Has anyone heard of an effort to > archive or mirror YouTube content? > > I can imagine a script that downloads the .flv's of every result for a > certain search term. >

Re: [FC-discuss] Transcended Value in Recording Industry

2007-10-28 Thread Fred Benenson
I'm not sure how depreciation would fare in "intellectual property" because it's really just a device to leverage tax incentives and extract value from real estate that depends on the reality that physical objects break and degrade in quality. If what you're suggesting is that more artists take

[FC-discuss] An interesting example of a Hit List...

2007-10-30 Thread Fred Benenson
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/29/us/29bar.html "A bunch of law students at Stanford have started assigning letter grades to their prospective employers, which pretty much tells you who holds the power in the market for new associates. " ... "The numbers were provided to a central clearinghouse b

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