I support the adoption of this draft.
Thanks!
From: Satoru Matsushima
Sent: jueves, 19 de octubre de 2023 11:41
To: dmm
Cc: draft-kohno-dmm-srv6mob-a...@ietf.org
Subject: DMM WG Adoption Poll (1) for "Architecture Discussion on SRv6 Mobile
User plane" - draft-kohno-dmm-srv6mob-arch-07
Dear DM
Hi Roman,
Many thanks for your review. Please see inline with [PC]. Note that I've posted
rev24 of the document.
Cheers,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: Roman Danyliw via Datatracker
Sent: sábado, 31 de diciembre de 2022 2:23
To: The IESG
Cc: draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-upl...@ietf.or
Hi Zahed,
Many thanks for your review. Please see inline with [PC].
Rev24 just posted.
-Original Message-
From: Zaheduzzaman Sarker via Datatracker
Sent: martes, 3 de enero de 2023 14:58
To: The IESG
Cc: draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-upl...@ietf.org; dmm-cha...@ietf.org;
dmm@ietf.org; Sr
Hi Paul,
Many thanks for the review. See inline with [PC]. I've pushed an updated
revision of the document (rev-24)
Cheers,
Pablo
-Original Message-
From: Paul Wouters via Datatracker
Sent: martes, 3 de enero de 2023 23:04
To: The IESG
Cc: draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-upl...@ietf.org;
Hi Murray,
Many thanks for your review. See inline with [PC].
I've posted an updated rev of the draft (-24).
Cheers,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: Murray Kucherawy via Datatracker
Sent: sábado, 31 de diciembre de 2022 5:48
To: The IESG
Cc: draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-upl...@ietf.org;
Hi Eric,
Many thanks for the review. Please see inline with [PC].
I've posted revision -24 of the draft.
Cheers,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: Éric Vyncke via Datatracker
Sent: jueves, 5 de enero de 2023 12:44
To: The IESG
Cc: draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-upl...@ietf.org; dmm-cha...@i
Thanks for the review, Stephen. I've removed the example as you suggested.
(Already posted in rev22)
Cheers,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: Stephen Farrell via Datatracker
Sent: sábado, 5 de noviembre de 2022 18:47
To: sec...@ietf.org
Cc: dmm@ietf.org; draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplan
Hi all,
We have just posted revision 20 of the draft.
It addresses two comments from Jeffrey that have been addressed thanks to his
suggested text (thanks!).
Cheers,
Pablo.
From: dmm On Behalf Of Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
Sent: sábado, 9 de abril de 2022 5:08
To: Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) ;
d
Hi Joel,
Could you please confirm which sub-sections of the draft do your comment
apply-to? Thank you.
Cheers,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: dmm On Behalf Of Joel M. Halpern
Sent: viernes, 1 de abril de 2022 17:28
To: Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) ;
dmm@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [DMM] Secon
Hi Jeffrey,
Many thanks. Inline with PC (-rev19 posted).
Cheers,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Sent: domingo, 20 de marzo de 2022 18:05
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-18 comments
Hi Pablo,
Apology
Hi Jeffrey,
I added your comments in rev18.
More inline with [PC].
Thanks!
-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Sent: miércoles, 10 de noviembre de 2021 15:36
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: RE: draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-16 comments
Hi
Hi Jeffrey,
Inline with PC. New version of the draft posted (rev17).
Thanks,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Sent: viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 1:01
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: Additional draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-16
:
- On (A,Z) usage being inconsistent: Please specify the page or section. I
don't spot it. Thanks.
- On the 5.3.1 typo, fixed (rev17).
Cheers,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Sent: jueves, 26 de agosto de 2021 5:21
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Cc: dmm@iet
Hi Jeffrey,
Thanks for the answer. Inline with PC6, and updated version of the draft posted
(rev16).
Cheers,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: dmm On Behalf Of Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Sent: jueves, 5 de agosto de 2021 21:13
To: 'Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)'
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
S
Resending as there was a typo.
Inline with PC2.
Thanks.
From: Sridhar Bhaskaran
Sent: miércoles, 28 de julio de 2021 15:34
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Cc: David Allan I ; dmm@ietf.org
Subject: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [DMM] Additional questions/comments on
draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-13
Hi Sridhar,
Inline with PC2.
Thanks!
From: Sridhar Bhaskaran
Sent: miércoles, 28 de julio de 2021 15:34
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Cc: David Allan I ; dmm@ietf.org
Subject: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [DMM] Additional questions/comments on
draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-13
Hi Pablo / Dave
Hi Dave,
Many thanks for your comments. Inline with PC.
Cheers,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: dmm On Behalf Of David Allan I
Sent: viernes, 23 de julio de 2021 19:51
To: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [DMM] Additional questions/comments on
draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-13
Hi:
Lookin
Hi Jeffrey,
Inline with PC2.
Thanks,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: dmm On Behalf Of Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Sent: jueves, 22 de julio de 2021 16:36
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [DMM] Additional questions/comments on
draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane
does not change any 3GPP
architecture.
Cheers,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: Joel M. Halpern
Sent: miércoles, 21 de julio de 2021 19:40
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [DMM] Comments on draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-13
You asserted that certain needs
Hi Jeffrey,
Inline with PC5.
Thanks,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Sent: miércoles, 21 de julio de 2021 23:34
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: RE: Additional questions/comments on
draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-13
Hi Pablo
Hi Jeffrey,
Many thanks for the summary of the open items.
See inline with [PC].
Cheers,
Pablo.
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
> Sent: miércoles, 14 de julio de 2021 21:56
> To: Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) ; Pablo Camarillo
> (pcamaril)
>
other key points in here:
draft-kohno-dmm-srv6mob-arch-04
Many thanks,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: Joel M. Halpern
Sent: miércoles, 16 de junio de 2021 0:03
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [DMM] Comments on draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-13
Actually
Hi Jeffrey,
Inline with PC4.
Thanks!
(and apologize for the delay)
-Original Message-
From: dmm On Behalf Of Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Sent: martes, 15 de junio de 2021 22:16
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [DMM] Additional questions/comments on
draft-ietf
Hi Jeffrey,
Inline with [PC3].
Cheers,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: dmm On Behalf Of Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Sent: lunes, 14 de junio de 2021 22:10
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [DMM] Additional questions/comments on
draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane
Cheers,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Sent: lunes, 14 de junio de 2021 22:19
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: RE: Comments on draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-13
Hi Pablo,
As you have alluded to, we're not converging but that&#x
Thanks for confirming. I'll use that moving forward in the I-D.
Cheers,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: Kaippallimalil John
Sent: lunes, 14 de junio de 2021 21:30
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) ; Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [DMM] [spring] note: WGLC on
Hi Jeffrey,
Inline with [PC6]. Many thanks for your explicit answers.
Cheers,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Sent: lunes, 14 de junio de 2021 21:01
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: RE: Comments on draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-13
Hi John,
Many thanks for detailed your answer.
Do you think it would be fair to use "L2 Adjacency" to refer to it in the draft?
Thanks,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: Kaippallimalil John
Sent: lunes, 14 de junio de 2021 20:57
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) ; Jeffrey (Zhao
Jeffrey,
Inline with [PC5].
Cheers,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Sent: lunes, 14 de junio de 2021 19:32
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) ; Pablo
Camarillo (pcamaril)
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: RE: Comments on draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-13
Hi Pablo,
If
Hi Jeffrey,
Inline with PC4.
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: dmm On Behalf Of Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Sent: lunes, 14 de junio de 2021 18:00
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [DMM] Comments on draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-13
Hi Pablo,
Please see zzh3
Of Kaippallimalil John
Sent: viernes, 11 de junio de 2021 18:43
To: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang ; Pablo
Camarillo (pcamaril)
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [DMM] [spring] note: WGLC on draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-11
Hi Pablo, Jeffrey,
If the question is on IP adjacency in 3GPP, it is between
Hi Jeffrey,
Inline with [PC3].
Thanks,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: dmm On Behalf Of Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Sent: lunes, 7 de junio de 2021 15:58
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [DMM] Comments on draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-13
Hi Pablo,
Please
Jeffrey,
-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Sent: viernes, 4 de junio de 2021 22:06
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [DMM] [spring] note: WGLC on draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-11
Hi Pablo,
The IP adjacency to the UE is from the UPF, not
Jeffrey,
Inline with [PC2].
Cheers,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Sent: lunes, 7 de junio de 2021 14:48
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: RE: Additional questions/comments on
draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-13
Hi Pablo,
Please see
Inline with PC2.
Many thanks and have a good weekend.
-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Sent: martes, 1 de junio de 2021 16:46
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: RE: Comments on draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-13
Hi Pablo,
Please see zzh> be
ang
Sent: martes, 1 de junio de 2021 16:04
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) ; dmm@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [DMM] [spring] note: WGLC on draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-11
Hi Pablo,
Let me pull this up:
---
Zzh4> gNB is certainly an IP device but its IP adjacency is in the "underlay&qu
Hi Jeffrey,
Thanks for your email. Inline with [PC].
Cheers,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Sent: martes, 1 de junio de 2021 17:39
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) ; dmm@ietf.org
Subject: Additional questions/comments on draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-13
Hi
Hi Jeffrey,
Thanks for the reviews. Answers inline with [PC].
Thanks,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: dmm On Behalf Of Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Sent: martes, 1 de junio de 2021 4:33
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) ;
dmm@ietf.org
Subject: [DMM] Comments on draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile
Sent: miércoles, 26 de mayo de 2021 14:25
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Cc: dmm@ietf.org; Joel M. Halpern
Subject: RE: [DMM] [spring] note: WGLC on draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-11
Hi Pablo,
Please see zzh4> below.
-Original Message-
From: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Sent: Fri
Zhang
Sent: miércoles, 19 de mayo de 2021 22:04
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) ; Joel M. Halpern
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [DMM] [spring] note: WGLC on draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-11
Hi Pablo,
One can say "this solutions relies on VLAN which is outside the scope of this
document
Hi Jeffrey,
Inline with [PC3].
Cheers,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Sent: lunes, 17 de mayo de 2021 22:22
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) ; dmm@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [DMM] [spring] note: WGLC on draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-11
Hi Pablo,
Please see zzh2
Hi Jeffrey,
Many thanks for your reply. Good to see some of your points are resolved now.
Answers to the remaining points below inline with [PC2].
Cheers,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Sent: miércoles, 5 de mayo de 2021 20:37
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril
Hi Jeffrey,
Many thanks for your review. We've posted an updated revision of the document
(rev12). Comments inline with [PC].
Thanks,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: dmm On Behalf Of Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Sent: miércoles, 21 de abril de 2021 6:49
To: Erik Kline ; SPRING WG ; dmm@ietf
Hi Dirk,
Many thanks for the support and the very detailed review of the document. I’ve
updated the document accordingly (rev12).
Note that I have not changed the “a SID list” into “an SID list” (RFC Editor
criteria in RFC8986).
Many thanks!
Cheers,
Pablo.
From: dmm On Behalf Of dirk.von-h.
Hi chairs,
I am not aware of any undisclosed IPR related to this document.
Thanks,
Pablo.
From: dmm On Behalf Of Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
Sent: miércoles, 7 de abril de 2021 19:59
To: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: [DMM] IPR poll on draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-11
Dear Authors,
We are required t
Hi all,
We have posted a new revision of draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane.
We have fixed several typos throughout the document and we have updated the
SRv6 Endpoint Behavior pseudocodes to reuse the same format as in RFC8754 and
net-pgm.
Please review and let us know your feedback.
Thanks,
Pa
Hannu,
> The study listed a number of issues why Srv6 is not considered suitable for
> the user plane. Please review 3GPP TR 29.892 and take that into account in
> the analysis.
That is an interesting reading of TR 29.892.
" 8.3 SRv6 user plane protocol (without GTP-U)
...
The solution suppor
Hi Uma et al,
Thank you for all the work on this document.
As described in the abstract this document defines two things:
In section 2 you describe a framework to map slices in mobile systems to slices
in the transport network; while in section 3 you describe how a new transport
network underla
Hello all,
We have published a new revision of draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane.
This revision addresses the comments from Carlos. Many thanks Carlos for your
thorough review!
Please review and comment.
Thank you,
Pablo.
-Original Message-
From: dmm On Behalf Of internet-dra...@ietf
Dear DMM,
We have just posted an updated revision of draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane.
This revision removes sections 5.1.3 and 5.2.3 of the draft.
The authors are working on another update that addresses the comments received
during IETF105. We hope to have this ready in the next few weeks giv
+1. I support WGLC of this draft. The content simplification makes it easier to
read.
Cheers,
Pablo.
From: dmm on behalf of Akbar Rahman
Date: Tuesday, 15 January 2019 at 15:37
To: "dmm@ietf.org"
Subject: Re: [DMM] Fwd: WGLC on draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility-anchoring-11
+1
I support
+1
I support WGLC for this draft. Experimental track seems to be a good choice as
well for this draft.
Cheers,
Pablo.
From: dmm on behalf of Akbar Rahman
Date: Tuesday, 15 January 2019 at 15:34
To: "dmm@ietf.org"
Subject: Re: [DMM] WGLC on draft-ietf-dmm-pmipv6-dlif-03
+1
I support progre
I support the adoption of this draft as an informational document.
I believe this draft provides very useful information from a broad set of 3GPP
documents that are not necessarily easy to find. Any future work on new mobile
related technologies will leverage this. I also believe that IETF is the
Hi all,
We have submitted a new revision of this draft with further details on the PoCs.
Thanks,
Pablo.
On 22/10/2018, 22:50, "internet-dra...@ietf.org"
wrote:
A new version of I-D, draft-camarillo-dmm-srv6-mobile-pocs-01.txt
has been successfully submitted by Pablo Camarillo Ga
Tom, inline. [PC2]
Thanks,
Pablo.
On 18/07/2018, 18:57, "Tom Herbert" wrote:
>
>In summary if you could address:
>
>
>
>1. Section 5.1 Traditional mode (Tom’s comment on terminology and
>IP-in-IP with no relation to SR?)
>
>
>
>
Uma,
Inline. [PC1]
(Thanks for the clear list of points to address. It does help.)
Cheers,
Pablo.
From: Uma Chunduri
Date: Wednesday, 18 July 2018 at 12:52
To: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" , Arashmid Akhavain
Cc: "dmm@ietf.org" , "Alberto Rodriguez Natal (na
nesday, 18 July 2018 at 11:50
To: Arashmid Akhavain , "Pablo Camarillo
(pcamaril)"
Cc: "dmm@ietf.org" , "Alberto Rodriguez Natal (natal)"
, "spr...@ietf.org"
Subject: RE: Comment on SRv6-mobile-userplane
Arash,
In-line [Uma]:
--
Uma C.
From: Arashmi
Tom,
Isn't the IPv6 flow label designed exactly to avoid that? Are you suggesting to
use UDP to avoid using the flow label?
Cheers,
Pablo.
On 18/07/2018, 10:37, "Tom Herbert" wrote:
One caveat to that is that some
intermediate nodes may want to do DPI into transport layer to get
Hi Uma,
During the presentation of draft-bogineni-dmm-optimized-mobile-user-plane you
have raised a comment saying that SRv6 mandates an integration in between the
overlay and the underlay transport network.
I would like to clarify that this is NOT true. Please read
https://tools.ietf.org/html
Dear DMM WG chairs,
I would like to request a 10 minute slot for
draft-camarillo-dmm-srv6-mobile-pocs-00.
This is a new I-D complementary to draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane covering
the related PoCs status.
Topic name: SRv6 Mobile UserPlane PoCs
Presenter name: Lyle Bertz
Time: 10min
Draft:
Hello all,
We have just published a minor update to this I-D that clarifies several
questions that came up on the mailing list.
Also, we have added an annex that covers the current implementations and PoC
status.
Thanks,
Pablo (on behalf of the co-authors).
On 02/07/2018, 22:12, "dmm on beha
Hi Kentaro,
You are right. For each PDU session type you will have a different instance of
an End.M.GTP6.D SID. We can add a note in the next revision of the draft in
case this is not clear.
Thank you.
Cheers,
Pablo.
From: dmm on behalf of Kentaro Ebisawa
Date: Wednesday, 4 April 2018 at 1
Hi Tom,
Inline.
Cheers,
Pablo.
From: Tom Herbert
Date: Sunday, 18 March 2018 at 16:28
To: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)"
Cc: dmm , Uma Chunduri
Subject: Re: [DMM] some test results of different network overlay methods
On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 1:40 PM Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
ma
Hi Tom, Kalyani,
If the SR processing of the two SIDs is done by the end host, then I believe
the results for SR are obviously not valid.
Also in all the hardware-based routing platforms for which we have done interop
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-interop-00#section
Tom,
Your understanding is correct: in the traditional mode there is no pushed SRH
• Less MTU overhead than GTP in traditional mode.
• In enhanced mode with underlay TE with SLA bandwidth with stateless
service chaining we use the SRH.
Any solution other than SRv6 requires an indepen
Tom,
Re: your comment on EH insertion.
This point is not applicable; a new version of srv6-mobile-uplane
(https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-01) is
published making SRv6 encapsulation the default.
Thanks,
Pablo
From: dmm on behalf of Satoru Matsushima
Date: Tuesda
Hi Satoru,
Thank you for your detailed comments. Replies inline [PC].
Cheers,
Pablo.
On 27/02/2018, 05:46, "Satoru Matsushima" wrote:
Pablo,
First of all, thank you for your thorough review on the draft, and concrete
proposal to improve it.
I think I agree almost on th
Hello authors, DMM,
I have reviewed your I-D on SRv6 for mobile user-plane and I would like to make
some proposals. I have already discussed and brainstormed the details with some
of the authors of the draft and they agree to this changes, however I would
like to get the WG feedback on it.
(+ Charlie)
From: dmm on behalf of "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)"
Date: Monday, 26 February 2018 at 21:05
To: "dmm@ietf.org"
Cc: "Voyer, Daniel" , "cf(mailer list)" ,
"Miya Kohno (mkohno)" , "satoru.matsush...@g.softbank.co.jp"
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