Re: [DMM] conclusion of adoption calls

Hi Jouni, On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Jouni Korhonen wrote: > > > This thread is starting to sound like a broken record. We are chartered to > have the maintenance responsibility of Mobile IPv6 protocol family. Once the > chairs see absence of "maintenance

Re: [DMM] conclusion of adoption calls

This thread is starting to sound like a broken record. We are chartered to have the maintenance responsibility of Mobile IPv6 protocol family. Once the chairs see absence of "maintenance oriented" documents that responsibility will be terminated. Till then, if someone does not like Mobile

Re: [DMM] conclusion of adoption calls

The purpose of conference papers is to do research, so I don’t see how conferences papers would help to do … maintenance of IETF RFCs. In addition to bug fixes, MIPv6 and NEMO need to be progressed in the IETF hierarchy of standards. There are issues and options to be discussed, probably even

Re: [DMM] conclusion of adoption calls

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Thierry Ernst wrote: > > The purpose of conference papers is to do research, so I don’t see how > conferences papers would help to do … maintenance of IETF RFCs. In addition > to bug fixes, MIPv6 and NEMO need to be progressed in the

Re: [DMM] conclusion of adoption calls

What are protocols you think no one uses ? MIPv6 and NEMOv6 needs maintenance, and probably more than than maintenance. Regards, Thierry Ernst. > Le 8 janv. 2016 à 20:48, Behcet Sarikaya a écrit : > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Jouni.nosmap

Re: [DMM] conclusion of adoption calls

Well one can always pursue ISE/AD sponsored track if one so feels like. Just saying there are options.. if one desires to go through the WG process DMM has provisions for Mobile IPv6 protocol family maintenance work. Jouni Sent from a smart phone.. Mind the typos.. > Behcet Sarikaya

Re: [DMM] conclusion of adoption calls

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Jouni.nosmap wrote: > Well one can always pursue ISE/AD sponsored track if one so feels like. > > Just saying there are options.. if one desires to go through the WG process > DMM has provisions for Mobile IPv6 protocol family maintenance

Re: [DMM] conclusion of adoption calls

Hi Alex, all, My understanding of what Jouni wrote is that it’s fine to work on MIP6 improvement, but the MIP4 can live its life as is, to which I totally agree. And I also agree with Alex that we need to fix bugs in MIP6 (and the related suite, in particular NEMO) and progress them in the

Re: [DMM] conclusion of adoption calls

Hi Thierry, DMM has the charter for the NEMO protocol maintenance. So, it is the right group and you should be able to bring maintenance and deployment related extensions to this group. Regards Sri > On Jan 8, 2016, at 6:50 AM, Thierry Ernst wrote: > > > Hi Alex,

Re: [DMM] conclusion of adoption calls

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Jouni Korhonen wrote: > > As Sri pointed out DMM is OK to work on "maintenance-oriented extensions of > the Mobile IPv6 protocol family". So this is likely the venue within IETF. > Mobile IPv4 as such has no place here. > Why not ISE? For

Re: [DMM] conclusion of adoption calls

As Sri pointed out DMM is OK to work on "maintenance-oriented extensions of the Mobile IPv6 protocol family". So this is likely the venue within IETF. Mobile IPv4 as such has no place here. - Jouni 1/8/2016, 6:50 AM, Thierry Ernst kirjoitti: Hi Alex, all, My understanding of what Jouni

Re: [DMM] conclusion of adoption calls

Hi Jouni, On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Jouni wrote: > > Behcet, > > Thank you for your constructive comments. I believe academic > conferences/journals are not appropriate venues for PMIPv6/MIPv6 maintenance > since these protocol families are already past their

Re: [DMM] conclusion of adoption calls

On 12/21/15, 2:28 PM, "Behcet Sarikaya" wrote: >On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) > wrote: >> Beat the protocol any time things don¹t go our way. >> >> >> Published September 14, 2015 >> >> >>

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Beat the protocol any time things don¹t go our way. Published September 14, 2015 https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-sarikaya-nvo3-vmm-dmm-pmip-07.txt I wonder why ? Academic interest ? On 12/21/15, 9:46 AM, "dmm on behalf of Behcet Sarikaya"

Re: [DMM] conclusion of adoption calls

On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) wrote: > Beat the protocol any time things don¹t go our way. > > > Published September 14, 2015 > > > https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-sarikaya-nvo3-vmm-dmm-pmip-07.txt > Have you read that draft? Here is the abstract:

Re: [DMM] conclusion of adoption calls

Behcet, Thank you for your constructive comments. I believe academic conferences/journals are not appropriate venues for PMIPv6/MIPv6 maintenance since these protocol families are already past their prime time as “hot research topics". Looking at the existing charter I cannot find too much

Re: [DMM] conclusion of adoption calls

Hi Jouni, all, Let me ask what is the point in maintaining the protocols that no one uses? For academic purposes? If yes, then they should find their places in the conferences or journals. Now, mip4 WG has been closed. So is dmm going to maintain mip4 as well? Regards, Behcet On Fri, Dec 18,

Re: [DMM] conclusion of adoption calls

Hi Jouni, all, Although I'm already late, I just wanted to express my post-adoption call to the three drafts. Carlos On Wed, 2015-12-16 at 08:32 -0800, Jouni Korhonen wrote: > Folks, > > The WG adoption call for all three I-Ds have completed: >