Re: [DNG] resolv.conf

2022-05-09 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Mon, 2022-05-09 at 12:31 +0200, al3xu5 via Dng wrote: > Mon, 9 May 2022 04:49:35 -0400 - Steve Litt < > sl...@troubleshooters.com>: > > > Antony Stone said on Sun, 8 May 2022 16:28:38 +0200 > > > > > On Sunday 08 May 2022 at 16:24:03, william m. moss wrote: > > > > > > > Years ago I became

Re: [DNG] resolv.conf

2022-05-08 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Sun, 2022-05-08 at 10:24 -0400, william m. moss wrote: > > Years ago I became fed up with too many applications and > installations > corrupting my resolv.conf. I type in a resolv.conf using an editor. > > domain billshome > search billshome > nameserver 10.0.0.252 There is one big problem

Re: [DNG] [OT] British vs American language

2021-07-30 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Fri, 2021-07-30 at 22:18 +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > On Friday 30 July 2021 at 22:04:28, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 07:13:43PM +0100, Rowland Penny via Dng > > wrote: > > > > > This is sort of what I was getting at, English is a lang

Re: [DNG] [OT] British vs American language

2021-07-30 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Fri, 2021-07-30 at 13:55 -0500, o1bigtenor wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 1:13 PM Rowland Penny via Dng < > dng@lists.dyne.org> wrote: > > On Fri, 2021-07-30 at 13:57 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > Hendrik Boom said on Thu, 29 Jul 2021 20:31:26 -0400>

Re: [DNG] [OT] British vs American language

2021-07-30 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Fri, 2021-07-30 at 13:57 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Hendrik Boom said on Thu, 29 Jul 2021 20:31:26 -0400 > > > > And it's kind of amazing how these different versions have > > grammatical > > differences, not kust spelling and vocabulary. > > > > Unfortunately, it's currently not accessible,

Re: [DNG] [OT] British vs American language

2021-07-30 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Fri, 2021-07-30 at 11:59 +0200, John Hughes wrote: > On 30/07/2021 09:39, Rowland Penny via Dng wrote: > > No, Chaucer == Old English > > There is no one in England that speaks Old English in normal life > > > > You are quite right though, the only r

Re: [DNG] [OT] British vs American language

2021-07-30 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Fri, 2021-07-30 at 11:56 +0200, Harald Arnesen wrote: > Rowland Penny via Dng [30.07.2021 09:39]: > > > No, Chaucer == Old English > > There is no one in England that speaks Old English in normal life > > > > You are quite right though, the only real English is

Re: [DNG] [OT] British vs American language

2021-07-30 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Thu, 2021-07-29 at 18:07 -0400, . via Dng wrote: > On 7/29/21 6:00 AM, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > American != English > > > > Rowland > > Also, > > British != English > > Canadian != English > > Indian != English > > Australian != English > > Ugandan !=

Re: [DNG] [OT] British vs American language

2021-07-28 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Wed, 2021-07-28 at 17:48 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE via Dng said on Wed, 28 Jul 2021 16:42:51 -0400 > > > On Mittwoch, 28. Juli 2021 15:47:24 -04 Steve Litt wrote: > > > Hendrik Boom said on Wed, 28 Jul 2021 07:04:10 -0400 > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at

Re: [DNG] Nasty Linux systemd security bug revealed

2021-07-26 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Mon, 2021-07-26 at 16:33 +, g4sra via Dng wrote: > On Monday, July 26th, 2021 at 4:48 PM, Steve Litt < > sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote: > > Andreas Messer said on Mon, 26 Jul 2021 09:38:23 +0200 > > > > > My feeling is, that you can not simply teach someone how to write > > > safe

Re: [DNG] ..maybe webmin?, was: Cockpit removal might make sense

2021-06-10 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 10/06/2021 10:36, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote: If you’re looking at something like zentyal, you could look at HPE’s clearos as well. there is a free version. It does all the things that zentyal does. it’s only drawback is that it’s based on centos and it’s laced with systemd. One

Re: [DNG] Cockpit removal might make sense

2021-05-25 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 25/05/2021 17:09, Tomasz Torcz wrote: Dnia Tue, May 25, 2021 at 04:53:29PM +0100, Rowland penny via Dng napisał(a): After installing it on an fresh Beowulf installation, it does not run and to my knowledge will never be able to w/o systemd sockets. IIRC, the policy is not to remove anything

Re: [DNG] Cockpit removal might make sense

2021-05-25 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 25/05/2021 05:42, Simon Walter wrote: Hi all, I wanted to see if Cockpit would by some unknown magic run on Devuan. The reason I wanted to do this is because the packages are available in the default repos. After installing it on an fresh Beowulf installation, it does not run and to my

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-24 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 24/12/2020 15:37, aitor wrote: does the output in the command line matches your desired order? Continuing with our English academy: does it match 'does the command line output match your desired order ?' Also, do not get me started on the use of the word 'since' by non native English

Re: [DNG] Historical note on double negation.

2020-12-24 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 24/12/2020 14:49, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 10:30:58AM +0100, aitor wrote: On 24/12/20 10:23, aitor wrote: neither the mouse nor the keyboard didn't respond Mmm..., this is a double denial. Neither the mouse nor the keyboard could respond? Agreed. Happy to see

Re: [DNG] samba/NAS box problem

2020-12-01 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 01/12/2020 16:25, Fred wrote: Hello, I have a DNS321 NAS box on my local network and samba/cifs to access it.  When I upgraded from Debian Jessie to i386 Beowulf the DNS321 was no longer accessible by samba. fred@ragnok:~$ mount /mnt/dns321 Password for fred@//192.168.42.32/Volume_1:

Re: [DNG] Error installing samba in beowulf

2020-08-31 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 31/08/2020 22:29, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: It is the same the low internet for the pc and from there I update since so I can use it on pc that do not have internet access what I only use: deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main contrib non-free but it is giving me problems

Re: [DNG] Error installing samba in beowulf

2020-08-31 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 31/08/2020 22:16, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: Best Regards -- Ismael Devuan User: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=devuan - Original Message - From: "Dimitris via Dng" To: Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [DNG] Error installing samba in beowulf

Re: [DNG] Error installing samba in beowulf

2020-08-31 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 31/08/2020 21:53, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: I moved the repository to http://deb.devuan.org/merged// and it follows the same problem that does not allow me to install samba from an installation made with devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64-desktop.iso

Re: [DNG] Error installing samba in beowulf

2020-08-31 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 31/08/2020 21:00, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: I replenish between the lines It has always worked for me (famous last words), is your sources.list file correct ? Have you run 'apt update' and 'apt upgrade' recently ? Yes, I did it today OK How are you planning to run Samba ? (this

Re: [DNG] Error installing samba in beowulf

2020-08-31 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 31/08/2020 20:03, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: When I try to install samba it gives me the following error root@ser-linux-01:~# apt-get install krb5-user samba sssd ntp openssh-server Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho Creando Arbol de dependencias Leyendo la informacion de estado... Hecho

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-07 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 07/08/2020 17:19, Haines Brown wrote: On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 04:57:18PM +0100, Rowland penny via Dng wrote: It is extremely slow, but I am unsure just how slow, but 3-4 times slower sounds about right. Wow! If the drive is never plugged into a Windows machine, then there is no point

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-07 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 07/08/2020 16:46, Haines Brown wrote: On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 03:58:40PM +0100, Rowland penny via Dng wrote: Do you use the USB drive on Windows, if not, just reformat it to ext4, ntfs-3g is a FUSE system, it isn't a fast as you would like. Thanks Roland. I left the drive NTFS because I

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-07 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 07/08/2020 15:47, Haines Brown wrote: Cron automatiically backs up some partitions on my HD by means of a script. Not sure of the size of thse backupos, but perhaps 300 Mb. I have been doing the backups to an external WD USB drive, and they took around 3 hours. However, I became nervous

Re: [DNG] What can even possibly go wrong?

2020-03-12 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 12/03/2020 10:25, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Hi! Just a little rant and feel free to ignore it. systemd-homed… I hope none of it is ever implemented to elogind. https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-homed.service.html https://systemd.io/USER_RECORD/ (just count the

Re: [DNG] List index out of range merging the repo of gnuinos with amprolla

2020-02-02 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 02/02/2020 18:24, Aitor wrote: Hi, I'm getting the following error merging packages .gnuinos.org with amprolla: $ python3 amprolla_merge.py [ ] Loading packages: ['/home/aitor/amprolla/spool/gnuinos/dists/beowulf/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz',

Re: [DNG] VMware segmentation fault

2020-01-19 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 19/01/2020 21:22, Haines Brown wrote: It been ten years since I've installed a virtual machine under Linux, and things have changed. I downloaded and ran VMware-Player-3.1.1-282343.x86_64.bundle to install VMware Player with success. Howver, I have trouble starting it. I have no desktop.

Re: [DNG] Fonts trouble on beowulf

2020-01-10 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 10/01/2020 07:13, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Rowland penny via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): Le projet Clearlooks-Phénix a pour but de créer une version GTK3 de Clearlooks, thème par défaut de Gnome 2. Un style est également inclus pour GTK2, Unity et les gestionnaires de fenêtres Metacity

Re: [DNG] Fonts trouble on beowulf

2020-01-08 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 08/01/2020 17:56, fsmithred via Dng wrote: On 1/8/20 11:38 AM, Rowland penny via Dng wrote: On 08/01/2020 16:25, goli...@devuan.org wrote: On 2020-01-08 10:14, Rowland penny via Dng wrote: On 08/01/2020 16:02, goli...@devuan.org wrote: phenix is the correct spelling and has been since

Re: [DNG] Fonts trouble on beowulf

2020-01-08 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 08/01/2020 16:25, goli...@devuan.org wrote: On 2020-01-08 10:14, Rowland penny via Dng wrote: On 08/01/2020 16:02, goli...@devuan.org wrote: phenix is the correct spelling and has been since jessie.  ;)  The French do it differently. :D No, the Americans cannot spell correctly

Re: [DNG] Fonts trouble on beowulf

2020-01-08 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 08/01/2020 16:02, goli...@devuan.org wrote: phenix is the correct spelling and has been since jessie.  ;)  The French do it differently. :D No, the Americans cannot spell correctly, it is Pheonix in English ;-) Rowland ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-11 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 14:01:15 +0200 Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 01:27:08PM +0200, Edward Bartolo via Dng > wrote: > > > [ ... ] That prank was completely misplaced: as someone replied, > >one does not joke with security. The latter can mean lost business. > >Only if

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-02 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 14:28:52 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 14:29:46 +0300, Dimitris wrote in message > : > > > - TZ difference is bad. we should all go GMT or something unique, > > and know when april fools starts/ends. > > ..disagreed, good pranks can use the extra bonus

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-01 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 20:18:01 + Daniel Abrecht via Dng wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > It's now clear that this was a planned action and there was no danger. > But when it happened, this wasn't obvious in any way. I assume the > other staff members knew about

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

2019-03-08 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 11:44:49 -0600 "Jamey Fletcher" wrote: > > Anno domini 2019 Fri, 8 Mar 10:45:04 -0600 > > > Nate Bargmann scripsit: > > >> * On 2019 08 Mar 08:00 -0600, KatolaZ wrote: > > >>> and, IIRC, also /var/lib/dbus/machine-id is re-generated at boot > >>> time. But we need to

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

2019-03-08 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 13:47:40 +0100 Jaromil wrote: > > re all, > > any thoughts about this new systemd-made thing that freedesktop > immediately "standardized" (whatever is their procedure for that, > likely smoking cigars among old-boys or so) >

Re: [DNG] Creating directory in /var/run on bootup

2019-02-05 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 21:31:46 +0100 Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 05/02/19 at 11:34, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > Tom: > > ... > >> What is the recommended alternative way to create a sub-directory > >> of /var/run on bootup for non-daemon software? > > Don't know about "recommended", but you can >

Re: [DNG] excessive bounces

2019-01-09 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 21:26:45 + Rowland Penny via Dng wrote: > On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 12:53:48 -0800 > Rick Moen wrote: > > > Quoting Rowland Penny via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > > > > > Rick, please stop name dropping and please stop, just stop. > > >

Re: [DNG] excessive bounces

2019-01-04 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 12:53:48 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Rowland Penny via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > > > Rick, please stop name dropping and please stop, just stop. > > Seriously? I merely asked you, while thanking you for your work on > Samba, to please say hullo t

Re: [DNG] excessive bounces

2019-01-04 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 11:56:29 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Correcting mistype: > > > Please, let's work through the scenario. You as rpe...@samba.org > > subscribe to dng@lists.dyne.org. Hypothetically for purposes of > > discussion, for some reason the samba.org SMTP host occasionally > > does

Re: [DNG] excessive bounces

2019-01-04 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 04:21:28 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Rowland Penny via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > > > > It has happened again, my membership to this list has been disabled > > due to excessive bounces. I am fairly sure this isn't true, or I > > would have to

[DNG] excessive bounces

2019-01-04 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
It has happened again, my membership to this list has been disabled due to excessive bounces. I am fairly sure this isn't true, or I would have told by one of the Samba team list moderators. Rowland ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Re: What should an Install Guide accomplish?

2019-01-02 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 00:18:19 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 19:04:32 -0800 > Rick Moen wrote: > > > Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org): > > > > [much concentrated wisdom] > > > > > The best documemntation will be useless if no one reads it. > > [...] > > > Even though

Re: [DNG] Samba 4.9 Package

2018-12-08 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 12:24:14 -0600 Bob Wooldridge wrote: > I'm setting up a domain controller using Devuan ascii.  Is there a > package available for Samba 4.9 that will work?  There appears to be > a Samba 4.9 package in Debian Sid.  Would this work? > > Go here: http://apt.van-belle.nl/

Re: [DNG] Devuan armhf won't boot on Raspberry 3 Model B

2018-12-05 Thread Rowland Penny
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 09:43:59 +0100 Joril wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I'm trying to get the devuan_ascii_2.0.0_armhf_raspi2 image to boot > on a Raspberry 3 Model B, but the only thing I get is a black > screen... Am I missing something or am I using the wrong image? >

Re: [DNG] Request for comments - training room

2018-12-03 Thread Rowland Penny
On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 18:46:13 +0100 Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 03/12/18 at 18:19, Tomasz Kundera wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 2:40 PM Rowland Penny > <mailto:rpe...@samba.org>> wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 14:28:25 +0100 > > Tomasz

Re: [DNG] Request for comments - training room

2018-12-03 Thread Rowland Penny
On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 18:19:04 +0100 Tomasz Kundera wrote: > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 2:40 PM Rowland Penny wrote: > > > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 14:28:25 +0100 > > Tomasz Kundera wrote: > > > > > You can still use NIS if you don't need the power (and > > &g

Re: [DNG] Request for comments - training room

2018-12-03 Thread Rowland Penny
On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 15:35:12 +0100 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > Am Montag, 3. Dezember 2018 schrieb Simon Hobson: > > Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > > > Hm ... on devuan mailinglist asking for trainingroom setup for > > > 600 active user? I don't think server nor clients are M$-based, > > >

Re: [DNG] Request for comments - training room

2018-12-03 Thread Rowland Penny
On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 15:25:14 +0100 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > Am Montag, 3. Dezember 2018 schrieb Rowland Penny: > > On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 14:58:24 +0100 > > [...] > > > > No it doesn't, but then neither does Linux ;-) > > > > If y

Re: [DNG] Request for comments - training room

2018-12-03 Thread Rowland Penny
On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 14:58:24 +0100 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > Am Montag, 3. Dezember 2018 schrieb Rowland Penny: > > On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 13:22:40 + > > g4sra wrote: > > > > > From my perspective, this topic has had some very interesting >

Re: [DNG] Request for comments - training room

2018-12-03 Thread Rowland Penny
On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 05:51:30 -0800 Bruce Ferrell wrote: > On 12/3/18 5:22 AM, g4sra wrote: > > >From my perspective, this topic has had some very interesting > > contributions. Thank you all whom have contributed. > > > > To pick out just one as an example, I had considered NIS\YP to be > > (or

Re: [DNG] Request for comments - training room

2018-12-03 Thread Rowland Penny
On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 13:22:40 + g4sra wrote: > From my perspective, this topic has had some very interesting > contributions. Thank you all whom have contributed. > > To pick out just one as an example, I had considered NIS\YP to be (or > rather didn't consider because) all but defunct, and

Re: [DNG] Request for comments - training room

2018-12-02 Thread Rowland Penny
On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 14:28:25 +0100 Tomasz Kundera wrote: > You can still use NIS if you don't need the power (and complexity) of > samba. > NIS is a bit outdated and Samba isn't that complex from a Linux point of view. Rowland ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Request for comments - training room

2018-12-02 Thread Rowland Penny
On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 10:07:23 + Simon Hobson wrote: > Rowland Penny wrote: > > >> Indeed, but this scenario is for a fixed setup where the users (28 > >> of them) are setup once and then there is no further user > >> maintenance going forward. In such a sc

Re: [DNG] Request for comments - training room

2018-12-01 Thread Rowland Penny
On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 22:17:58 + Simon Hobson wrote: > Rowland Penny wrote: > > >> I think what Roland was getting at here is the number of users and > >> how they are dealt with makes a huge difference. > >> > >> At one extreme, you

Re: [DNG] Request for comments - training room

2018-12-01 Thread Rowland Penny
On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 21:49:41 + Simon Hobson wrote: > g4sra wrote: > > >> How is the Linux server going to authenticate users, > >> via /etc/passwd or other ? > >> > >> A lot depends on this, also the number of users will have a factor > >> as well. > > > Which network authentication

Re: [DNG] Request for comments - training room

2018-12-01 Thread Rowland Penny
On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 20:46:58 + g4sra wrote: > One server and 28+ workstations all to be Linux, the rest of the > network is inconsequential (firewalled off). > OK, I would install the latest Samba I could get, which, as you will be running Devuan, will be from here:

Re: [DNG] Request for comments - training room

2018-12-01 Thread Rowland Penny
On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 17:49:40 + g4sra wrote: > Which network authentication method would you suggest ? > > On 01/12/2018 15:43, Rowland Penny wrote: > > On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 15:21:51 + > > g4sra wrote: > > > >> It's not an exhibition it's a room for tra

Re: [DNG] Request for comments - training room

2018-12-01 Thread Rowland Penny
On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 15:21:51 + g4sra wrote: > It's not an exhibition it's a room for training using simulation > software (permanent classroom), think flight simulator game for 28+ > people. Cabling is not my problem, the server and workstation software > configuration is ;). > > NFS ? SAMBA

Re: [DNG] Request for comments - training room

2018-11-29 Thread Rowland Penny
On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 16:19:44 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 18:55:03 + > g4sra wrote: > > > > How should this training room be best implemented for reliability > > and ease of maintenance ? > > Be sure to tape every cable to the carpet/floor so nobody trips over > them.

Re: [DNG] yet another case of silly Lennartism :p [Fwd: Our build system may be broken: /bin vs /usr/bin]

2018-11-21 Thread Rowland Penny
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 18:50:42 +0100 Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 21/11/18 at 18:39, Rowland Penny wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 18:25:02 +0100 > > Alessandro Selli wrote: > > > >> On 21/11/18 at 18:15, m712 wrote: > >>>>   Of course we are, why

Re: [DNG] yet another case of silly Lennartism :p [Fwd: Our build system may be broken: /bin vs /usr/bin]

2018-11-21 Thread Rowland Penny
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 18:29:59 +0100 Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 21/11/18 at 18:21, Rowland Penny wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 18:05:44 +0100 > > Alessandro Selli wrote: > > > >> On 21/11/18 at 17:57, Rowland Penny wrote: > >>> On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17

Re: [DNG] yet another case of silly Lennartism :p [Fwd: Our build system may be broken: /bin vs /usr/bin]

2018-11-21 Thread Rowland Penny
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 18:25:02 +0100 Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 21/11/18 at 18:15, m712 wrote: > >>   Of course we are, why don't you read before replying? > > I can't be sure if you are in jest. > > >    Of course I am not. > >   Dr. Nikolaus Klepp asked: > > > From: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp"

Re: [DNG] yet another case of silly Lennartism :p [Fwd: Our build system may be broken: /bin vs /usr/bin]

2018-11-21 Thread Rowland Penny
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 18:05:44 +0100 Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 21/11/18 at 17:57, Rowland Penny wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:43:12 +0100 > > Alessandro Selli wrote: > > > >> On 21/11/18 at 17:37, Rowland Penny wrote: > >>> On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17

Re: [DNG] yet another case of silly Lennartism :p [Fwd: Our build system may be broken: /bin vs /usr/bin]

2018-11-21 Thread Rowland Penny
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:43:12 +0100 Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 21/11/18 at 17:37, Rowland Penny wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:28:40 +0100 > > Alessandro Selli wrote: > > > >> On 21/11/18 at 17:22, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > >>> Am Mittwo

Re: [DNG] yet another case of silly Lennartism :p [Fwd: Our build system may be broken: /bin vs /usr/bin]

2018-11-21 Thread Rowland Penny
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:28:40 +0100 Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 21/11/18 at 17:22, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 21. November 2018 schrieb Hendrik Boom: > > > [...] > > > >> I read the discussion at > >>

Re: [DNG] English grammar.

2018-11-18 Thread Rowland Penny
On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 10:11:50 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > Changed the subject to a more appropriate one. > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 01:52:01PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > On 18/11/18 at 13:36, Rowland Penny wrote: > > > On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:24:51 +0100 >

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-18 Thread Rowland Penny
On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:24:51 +0100 Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 18/11/18 at 10:46, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > > KatolaZ - 18.11.18, 09:36: > >> This is not gonna happen, given for instance the way our presence > >> in debian-devel has been "cheered up" (with aggressive posts and > >>

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-16 Thread Rowland Penny
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 12:27:50 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 16:04:42 +0100 > Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > > > I do not yet have a firm opinion on this. So for now I just like to > > share an experience I had with Debian without usrmerge: > > > > I downloaded a software – I

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-16 Thread Rowland Penny
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 05:11:01 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 22:11:17 +1300 > Daniel Reurich wrote: > > > Hi Devuan followers, fans and friends, > > > > Debian as of the upcoming Buster release looks to be implementing a > > merged /usr by default. At this stage there is no

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-16 Thread Rowland Penny
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 22:11:17 +1300 Daniel Reurich wrote: > Hi Devuan followers, fans and friends, > > Debian as of the upcoming Buster release looks to be implementing a > merged /usr by default. At this stage there is no plan to make it > forced... but you never know what happens when their

Re: [DNG] Implementing directory services/Kerberos

2018-11-08 Thread Rowland Penny
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 11:12:16 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Redirecting back on-list. > > Quoting wirelessd...@gmail.com (wirelessd...@gmail.com): > > > On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 13:47, Rick Moen wrote: > > > > > > Anyway, it's been a _long_ time since I dealt with all of that > > > badness, so I'm

Re: [DNG] Implementing directory services/Kerberos

2018-11-08 Thread Rowland Penny
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 12:04:53 +1100 wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote: > On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 17:37, Rowland Penny wrote: > > > > On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 10:34:50 +1000 > > wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > I’m looking to setup some sort of directory services/ne

Re: [DNG] A shift in systemd development

2018-10-29 Thread Rowland Penny
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 17:02:30 -0500 goli...@dyne.org wrote: > OK. Having no idea what an S/390 system is (except for a scan of the > wikipedia page), I'm hoping that someone can 'splain how this will > affect community based Linux and everyone who jumped on the systemd > bandwagon: > >

Re: [DNG] Excessive Bounces

2018-10-29 Thread Rowland Penny
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:38:47 +0100 Harald Arnesen wrote: > Linux O'Beardly [10/29/18 2:40 AM]: > > > Is anyone else using a gmail account getting excessive bounce errors > > from the DNG mailing list? It keeps locking out my account.  I'm not > > having any issues with any of my other mailing

[DNG] Well, this is interesting

2018-10-28 Thread Rowland Penny
IBM is buying Red Hat. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-28/ibm-is-said-to-near-deal-to-acquire-software-maker-red-hat Rowland ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Avahi [was Weird network issue]

2018-10-15 Thread Rowland Penny
On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 11:12:41 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr): > > > This is fine if you always work in the same place. During my > > professional life, I used to travel to various labs and found it > > convenient to automatically find, in the cups menu of my laptop,

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-14 Thread Rowland Penny
On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 08:23:09 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 02:45:07AM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > ... > > > > And OT do I even need avahi installed at all? > > What is it needed for? I do not really know, if you have DNS set up correctly, it isn't required and guess

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).

2018-10-10 Thread Rowland Penny
On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 13:13:57 -0700 Bruce Perens wrote: > I think this discussion is now so astronomically far from the purpose > of DNG that it serves no further purpose. Perhaps moderation is > called for? It never was on topic, but then many posts aren't ;-) I gave up on it when I decided

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).

2018-10-10 Thread Rowland Penny
On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 14:04:15 +0200 "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" wrote: > On 10.10.2018 13:20, Rowland Penny wrote: > > Hi, > > > You could just have said: > > * people against shall be banned/silenced, as they're > >discriminating/agai

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).

2018-10-10 Thread Rowland Penny
On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 13:01:42 +0200 "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" wrote: > On 01.10.2018 07:28, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > > Hi, > > > On 09/27/2018 05:11 PM, Bruce Perens wrote: > >> I'm that Social Justice Warrior that you don't like. > > > > I can almost guarantee you aren't. > > > >

Re: [DNG] How to test the backend of simple-netaid

2018-09-07 Thread Rowland Penny
On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 18:37:52 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: > On Friday 07 September 2018 at 17:59:39, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > > On 07/09/2018, aitor_czr wrote: > > > El 07/09/18 a las 12:00, Edward Bartolo escribió: > > >> Aitor wrote: > > >> "I spent a lot of time downgrading the frontend from

Re: [DNG] Implementing directory services/Kerberos

2018-09-03 Thread Rowland Penny
On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 10:34:50 +1000 wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote: > I’m looking to setup some sort of directory services/network > authentication for users on a small corporate network running Devuan > Ascii. Is it recommended to use Kerberos+LDAP? > > Are there any good tutorials out there for

Re: [DNG] Git and git.devuan.org - solved

2018-08-16 Thread Rowland Penny
On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 22:56:29 +0300 Lars Noodén wrote: > On 08/16/2018 09:04 PM, Stefan Krusche wrote: > > Am Donnerstag 16 August 2018 schrieb Lars Noodén: > [snip] > >> There seems to be some finesse missing. > > > > Hi Lars, > > > > I'm almost totally unexperienced with git, but what is

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-17 Thread Rowland Penny
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 12:20:08 -0500 goli...@dyne.org wrote: > On 2018-07-17 12:04, spiralofhope wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 01:52:53 +0200 > > Alessandro Selli wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 15:16:27 -0400 > >> Steve Litt wrote: > >> > >> > Jimmy, you've just won a free procmail trip

Re: [DNG] who's tying up my port 80?

2018-07-11 Thread Rowland Penny
On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 00:27:17 +0200 Harald Arnesen wrote: > Rowland Penny [2018-07-10 15:44]: > > On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 15:36:46 +0200 > > Harald Arnesen wrote: > > > >> Rowland Penny [2018-07-10 14:37]: > >> > >> > The problem is that it

Re: [DNG] who's tying up my port 80?

2018-07-10 Thread Rowland Penny
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 15:36:46 +0200 Harald Arnesen wrote: > Rowland Penny [2018-07-10 14:37]: > > > The problem is that it is probably easier to start anew rather than > > trying to update/maintain an existing project. You have to contact > > the existing maintainer (and

Re: [DNG] who's tying up my port 80?

2018-07-10 Thread Rowland Penny
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 14:08:48 +0200 Harald Arnesen wrote: > Rick Moen [2018-07-10 10:30]: > > > Was there something that lead you to believe it had become illegal > > to use unmaintained code? Otherwise, I find the basis of your > > question quite difficult to understand. > > Don't be

Re: [DNG] [BACK ON LIST] [OFFLIST] Re: A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread Rowland Penny
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 14:16:01 +0200 KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 12:55:39PM +0100, Rowland Penny wrote: > > On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 13:27:03 +0200 > > KatolaZ wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 12:15:27PM +0100, Rowland Penny wrote: > > > &g

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread Rowland Penny
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 13:27:03 +0200 KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 12:15:27PM +0100, Rowland Penny wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > Jimmy, please either put up or shut up. > > If there are 'backdoors' in the kernel code, tells us where they > > are, if

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread Rowland Penny
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 04:02:23 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 07/09/2018 03:53 AM, KatolaZ wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 03:42:40AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > > > [cut] > > > >> > >> > >> Well some of those kernel experts are saying you need to check > >> your kernel. Also how you

Re: [DNG] NFS failure New ascii to upgraded ascii.

2018-07-05 Thread Rowland Penny
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 12:48:19 +1000 terryc wrote: > I have a newish system that had devuan-Jessie installed and then > recently upgrade to Devuan-Ascii. It has been acting as a NFS > reliabnle from its installation some months ago. > > The NFS server was a Debian-stretch system that has just been

Re: [DNG] ascii 2.0 installation confused by mount points

2018-06-10 Thread Rowland Penny
On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 10:18:24 -0400 Haines Brown wrote: > On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 12:36:02PM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote: > > > I think you may be confused about what this section is doing. You > > are telling the installer a) what to do with a disk & it's > > partitions (eg, should it format a

Re: [DNG] ascii 2.0 installation confused by mount points

2018-06-10 Thread Rowland Penny
On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 08:55:55 -0400 Haines Brown wrote: > On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 10:05:48AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > > Le 10/06/2018 à 04:01, Haines Brown a écrit : > > >On Sat, Jun 09, 2018 at 10:36:46PM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote: > > >>Haines Brown wrote: > > >> > > >>>In the partitioning

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0 RC - Strange dependencies with FreeRadius?

2018-05-27 Thread Rowland Penny
On Sun, 27 May 2018 12:02:36 +0100 Mike Tubby wrote: > I have built a new internet router/firewall box with an old Dell R610 > and lots of Ethernet interfaces. > > Installed Devuan Ascii 2.0 RC 'non graphical' install (no X, no > desktop), yet when I go to install FreeRADIUS

Re: [DNG] Does devuan install from USB really need a CDROM?

2018-04-04 Thread Rowland Penny
On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 19:09:04 +0200 Jaromil wrote: > hi Mubarak, > > On Mon, 26 Mar 2018, muba...@openmailbox.org wrote: > > > Hello Erik & Alessandro > > > > I faced similar problem but not in the system installation. > > > > 4-6 months ago I installed Devuan 1.0 DVD i386

Re: [DNG] Mozilla is at it again - Firefox nightly sends all your hostname lookups to cloudflare

2018-04-01 Thread Rowland Penny
On Sun, 1 Apr 2018 17:39:35 +0200 aitor_czr wrote: > Hi, > > On 01/04/18 16:29, Antony Stone wrote: > > On Sunday 01 April 2018 at 16:13:10, aitor_czr wrote: > > > >> On 31/03/18 20:54, Rick Moen wrote: > >> > >>> Yes, and your point is? > >> My point of view, you mean? >

Re: [DNG] Extended attributes - in major use?

2018-03-29 Thread Rowland Penny
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 09:00:59 -1000 Joel Roth wrote: > Hi List, > > I've been backing up my system with rsync years without > the --xattrs option. I'm curious if important parts of > Debian/Devuan rely on extended attributes. > > TIA > Don't know about most of Devuan, but

Re: [DNG] Wicd + dhclient no longer sends the correct host name and doesn't request search domains anymore in ascii.

2018-03-12 Thread Rowland Penny
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 10:41:09 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: >     This is just to remind everyone that wicd isn't necessary - at > least if it doesn't provide anything more than wifi config. > >     I've been living without it - and without network-manager - for > many years. All I

[DNG] Ascii install in VM

2018-03-04 Thread Rowland Penny
I installed Ascii in VM with a fixed IP and the install went without any problems or errors, but when it rebooted, there was no network. I checked and the ipaddress was set to '192.168.0.36/24' and there wasn't a netmask setting. Removed the '/24' and added 'netmask 255.255.255.0' Restarted

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