Le 24/06/2015 03:20, Jude Nelson a écrit :
Looks like Linus weighed in. I found the whole conversation thread
interesting.
http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1506.2/05492.html
-Jude
Thanks for this enjoyable link, Jude!
Looks like the destination of the message is GKH : I
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 09:20:37PM -0400, Jude Nelson wrote:
Looks like Linus weighed in. I found the whole conversation thread
interesting.
http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1506.2/05492.html
Yes, it is definitely interesting. The most scary thing is the
emergence in that thread
On 24/06/15 21:33, KatolaZ wrote:
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 09:20:37PM -0400, Jude Nelson wrote:
Looks like Linus weighed in. I found the whole conversation thread
interesting.
http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1506.2/05492.html
Yes, it is definitely interesting. The most scary thing
Looks like Linus weighed in. I found the whole conversation thread
interesting.
http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1506.2/05492.html
-Jude
On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 5:28 PM, KatolaZ kato...@freaknet.org wrote:
On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 08:15:01PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
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Le 20/06/2015 11:06, James Powell a écrit :
Then this without a doubt is clear evidence that kdbus is in fact a
systemd proprietary IPC. Has anyone heard of any software otherwise
that will use kdbus at all, even in the least?
Lennart is desperate to get kdbus in, but is making a critical
Le 20/06/2015 12:11, Martin Steigerwald a écrit :
Am Freitag, 19. Juni 2015, 11:16:12 schrieb Jude Nelson:
Whelp, looks like kdbus in systemd is no longer optional (but to be fair,
its use can be disabled at runtime, and won't be used anyway if kdbus
isn't present in the kernel).
On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 02:06:26AM -0700, James Powell wrote:
Then this without a doubt is clear evidence that kdbus is in fact a systemd
proprietary IPC. Has anyone heard of any software otherwise that will use
kdbus at all, even in the least?
Lennart is desperate to get kdbus in, but is
Sideroadmailto:clarke.sider...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [DNG] We Must be Prepared
It does not make the kernel systems, but its presence might make some
poorly written program think systems is present. But poor code assumes
things all the time, so really it will not make a difference.
Arnt
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Subject: Re: [DNG] We Must be Prepared
Le 20/06/2015 11:06, James Powell a écrit :
Then this without a doubt is clear evidence that kdbus is in fact a
systemd proprietary IPC. Has anyone heard of any software
On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 12:11:12PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Freitag, 19. Juni 2015, 11:16:12 schrieb Jude Nelson:
Whelp, looks like kdbus in systemd is no longer optional (but to be fair,
its use can be disabled at runtime, and won't be used anyway if kdbus
isn't present in the
On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 12:07:59PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 18. Juni 2015, 12:29:57 schrieb Marlon Nunes:
The job of keeping kernel development moving isn't so much about
technical know-how these days, he said. Running the core of arguably
the world's most important
On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 12:07:59PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 18. Juni 2015, 12:29:57 schrieb Marlon Nunes:
The job of keeping kernel development moving isn't so much about
technical know-how these days, he said. Running the core of arguably
the world's most important
Clarke Sideroad writes:
I hoping the Kernel Developers as a combined whole would see
the bigger Linux picture well beyond the desktop.
I can't see the Kernel being made to swallow something that
would poison the whole multifaceted structure in the way that
the various distros swallowed the,
On 06/19/2015 02:59 AM, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
Clarke Sideroad writes:
I hoping the Kernel Developers as a combined whole would see the
bigger Linux picture well beyond the desktop.
I can't see the Kernel being made to swallow something that would
poison the whole multifaceted structure in the
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015, Jude Nelson wrote:
The reason they're working on kdbus at all is because they have
discovered that it's costly to pipe a lot of data between dbus
endpoints
reminds me of the time we had some momentum to have vloopback into
Linux. or even before that, the times
Whelp, looks like kdbus in systemd is no longer optional (but to be fair,
its use can be disabled at runtime, and won't be used anyway if kdbus isn't
present in the kernel).
Announcement:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-June/033170.html
-Jude
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at
The job of keeping kernel development moving isn't so much about
technical know-how these days, he said. Running the core of arguably
the world's most important operating system is now about being trusted
and being available. GREG (AKA GREG KROAH HARTMAN) IS THE OBVIOUS NUMBER
TWO. HE COULD
I'm not worried. Linus won't accept kdbus until he thinks it's in a
position where it will be stable and easily supported for the foreseeable
future. Watching kdbus get refactored a few times over this past year, I'd
wager a guess that they're going to end up keeping as much of dbus in
userspace
Does seem to be true, that he is a systemd supporter:
http://kroah.com/log/blog/2014/01/15/kdbus-details/
Anybody have a crystal ball?
Will a kernel fork be required to not use systemd?
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Marlon Nunes nu...@openmailbox.org
wrote:
The job of keeping kernel
Sent: 6/18/2015 9:20 AM
To: Richardmailto:richard.h...@gmail.com
Cc: dng@lists.dyne.orgmailto:dng@lists.dyne.org
Subject: Re: [DNG] We Must be Prepared
I'm not worried. Linus won't accept kdbus until he thinks it's in a
position where it will be stable and easily supported
Richard writes:
Will a kernel fork be required to not use systemd?
Perhaps if Linus dies any time soon. But I think not even in that case —
don't forget that android is the biggest linux distribution.
Arnt
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I hoping the Kernel Developers as a combined whole would see the bigger
Linux picture well beyond the desktop.
I can't see the Kernel being made to swallow something that would poison
the whole multifaceted structure in the way that the various distros
swallowed the, just another init, what's
...
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From: Jude Nelson
Sent: 6/18/2015 9:20 AM
To: Richard
Cc: dng@lists.dyne.org
Subject: Re: [DNG] We Must be Prepared
I'm not worried. Linus won't accept kdbus until he thinks it's in a
position where it will be stable and easily supported for the
foreseeable future
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