On 11/27/18 8:08 PM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
__
It is a while ago that I struggled with a USB modem but your device
should be recognized by your system (supported since 2.6.18).
A old bug i found was that usbstorage is too fast for usbswitch. The
remedy would be to create
Quoting Miroslav Skoric (sko...@uns.ac.rs):
> Hello all,
>
> What is needed to install so that Devuan Jessie recognizes Huawei modems:
>
> - Huawei Mobile Connect - 3G modem (Wintendo sees it as such)
> - Huawei USB modem E3372 4G
> - Huawei Mobile Wifi router E5573C 4G
Try Web-searching for
Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl):
> Back in 2002, I made a pictorial HOWTO wrt dealing with Wintendo-only
> modems: https://angband.pl/fun/winmodem/ -- as you can see, they can be a
> tough nut to crack. This HOWTO hasn't lost a bit of its value.
You da man!
Back in the 1990s, I was
On 27-11-18 13:53, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> On 11/23/18 5:02 PM, Adam Borowski wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 01:28:00PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>>
>>> Right, many USB modems show up as something different than a
>>> networking device when they are plugged-in. I haven't used any of
On 23/11/18 at 17:02, Adam Borowski wrote:
> Back in 2002, I made a pictorial HOWTO wrt dealing with Wintendo-only
> modems: https://angband.pl/fun/winmodem/ -- as you can see, they can be a
> tough nut to crack. This HOWTO hasn't lost a bit of its value.
LOL! This is getting mad a a piece
On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 01:28:00PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 23/11/18 at 12:02, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> > On 11/22/18 4:28 PM, ael wrote:
> >> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 03:10:15PM +0100, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What is needed to install so that Devuan Jessie recognizes Huawei
>
On 23/11/18 at 12:02, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> On 11/22/18 4:28 PM, ael wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 03:10:15PM +0100, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
>>>
>>> What is needed to install so that Devuan Jessie recognizes Huawei
>>> modems:
>>>
>>> - Huawei Mobile Connect - 3G modem (Wintendo sees it as
On 11/22/18 4:28 PM, ael wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 03:10:15PM +0100, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
What is needed to install so that Devuan Jessie recognizes Huawei modems:
- Huawei Mobile Connect - 3G modem (Wintendo sees it as such)
- Huawei USB modem E3372 4G
- Huawei Mobile Wifi router
Hi Enrico,
On 19/11/18 19:34, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote:
Maybe we should discuss how to bring extra packages (that aren't
covered by Debian at all) into the distro. Any ideas ?
--mtx
This week i've been working on the live-sdk and amprolla (gnuinos jessie
is comming soon). I
On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 03:10:15PM +0100, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
>
> What is needed to install so that Devuan Jessie recognizes Huawei modems:
>
> - Huawei Mobile Connect - 3G modem (Wintendo sees it as such)
> - Huawei USB modem E3372 4G
> - Huawei Mobile Wifi router E5573C 4G
I used to use a
Hello all,
What is needed to install so that Devuan Jessie recognizes Huawei modems:
- Huawei Mobile Connect - 3G modem (Wintendo sees it as such)
- Huawei USB modem E3372 4G
- Huawei Mobile Wifi router E5573C 4G
Any good experience with those? Seems that those only support Wintendo
and Mac.
On 08.11.18 15:12, Nico Schottelius wrote:
>
> Hey mtx,
>
> that is AWESOME. It is *THE* thing we are looking at into for ungleich
> and if there was direct support of k8s in Devuan, it could potentially
> enable many more people to use Devuan as the default infrastructure OS.
thx.
Maybe we
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On 19/11/2018 02.01, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> ..you mirror straight off http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/, or
> off http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/ and pull some amprolla
> style stunt?
I don't pull any amprolla like stunts, I just use
On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 00:34:58 +, Daniel wrote in message
<5a3caca3-ebb2-9ab9-014d-0fe49f6f1...@danielabrecht.ch>:
> On 18/11/2018 00.45, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > ..you want to do a separate "make repo" and a "make clean-repo-too",
> > and possibly move the repo out of the build/ tree, say, to
On 18/11/2018 00.45, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
..you want to do a separate "make repo" and a "make clean-repo-too",
and possibly move the repo out of the build/ tree, say, to repo/ or
repos/ if you have multiple repos now or later.
Ok, all git repos are now cloned into the repo/ folder. I've also
On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 21:26:07 +, Daniel wrote in message
<0ed76638-06d3-bf40-7485-38905d46d...@danielabrecht.ch>:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I've taken a look at purisms' image-builder scripts, and then made my
> own for the devkit based on them to get an overview of all the
> components and how
On 17/11/18 at 22:26, Daniel Abrecht wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I've taken a look at purisms' image-builder scripts, and then made my
> own for the devkit based on them to get an overview of all the
> components and how things work together. I don't have a devkit yet, so
> I don't have any idea if
Hi everyone,
I've taken a look at purisms' image-builder scripts, and then made my
own for the devkit based on them to get an overview of all the
components and how things work together. I don't have a devkit yet, so I
don't have any idea if the images generated by my scripts will actually
On 11/01/2018 10:20 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 01/11/18 at 13:19, m712 wrote:
>> Your best bet is a killfile since he's guaranteed to bomb our inboxes after
>> your message.
(not asking for a reply)
What makes you think that?
I am entitled to share my opinions no matter how unpopular
On 10/17/18 1:19 PM, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
Hi all,
I recently installed Devuan Jessie on a computer for presentations via
large TV. And that machine is also directly wired in a small LAN to
another box that runs some old Ubuntu (probably 12.04 or so, it is also
just to tell the audience
On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 08:55:55 +0100
Andreas Messer wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 04, 2018 at 12:11:44AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > It's a _touchscreen_ phone, not a "real" computer. For that you
> > want Gemini or GPD Pocket. The input device is not fit for any
> > real hacking. You at most connect
On Sun, Nov 04, 2018 at 12:11:44AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> It's a _touchscreen_ phone, not a "real" computer. For that you want Gemini
> or GPD Pocket. The input device is not fit for any real hacking. You at
> most connect to it from the outside.
Well, according to their information it
On Sat, Nov 03, 2018 at 11:14:01PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> AFAIK the customizations concern mainly the graphical interface, the
> presence of some drivers specific to the new device and a particular
> selection of applications
Sounds to me that fixing regressions in a base distribution
On 02/11/18 at 23:18, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Friday 02 November 2018 at 23:10:48, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
>> On 02/11/18 at 13:36, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>>> Uness there is already a desktop environment adapted to the needs of
>>> mobile touch devices.
>>>
>>> Or they provide it. Unless they
On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 08:02:26PM +, Daniel Abrecht wrote:
> [...]
> I hope they ship the devkit soon, I want to install devuan on it too.
> Getting a Desktop Environment and Apps to work so it is usable could then
> become a bit tricky though.
good to know. I'm also looking forward to
On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 15:20:27 +0100, Alessandro wrote in message
<180ec613-1a33-1719-65d3-8aa7a2192...@linux.com>:
> Forget it, it was straight on their home page:
>
> https://system76.com/desktops
...which points to: https://system76.com/pop and
https://github.com/pop-os .
..one problem I
On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 20:02:26 +, Daniel wrote in message
:
...
> All the software is publicly available on their gitlab:
> https://source.puri.sm/Librem5
..found this, _are_ they putting systemd on their cell phone OS?:
https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/librem-buildbot/issues/1
..it's in all
On Friday 02 November 2018 at 23:10:48, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 02/11/18 at 13:36, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > Uness there is already a desktop environment adapted to the needs of
> > mobile touch devices.
> >
> > Or they provide it. Unless they rely on systemd, of course.
>
>
On 02/11/18 at 13:36, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> Uness there is already a desktop environment adapted to the needs of
> mobile touch devices.
>
> Or they provide it. Unless they rely on systemd, of course.
https://pureos.net/
Free/libre software
PureOS is a derivative of Debian
On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 08:02:26PM +, Daniel Abrecht wrote:
> On 31/10/2018 15.00, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 09:44:48AM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > Hendrik Boom - 31.10.18, 01:49:
> > > > Now they're working on a Purism phone. They do seem to intend it to
> >
On 31/10/2018 15.00, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 09:44:48AM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Hendrik Boom - 31.10.18, 01:49:
Now they're working on a Purism phone. They do seem to intend it to
work with a variety of GNU/Linux systems. They're currently hoping
to get some
Your best bet is a killfile since he's guaranteed to bomb our inboxes after
your message.
On November 1, 2018 3:20:43 AM GMT+03:00, Alessandro Selli
wrote:
>On 01/11/18 at 00:56, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> Suffices to sat to demolish whatever you wrote that we're talking of
>a
>> *smartphone*,
On 01/11/18 at 00:56, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> Suffices to sat to demolish whatever you wrote that we're talking of a
> *smartphone*, not laptops!
Sorry, re-reading the thread I figured out the thread started about
laptops, and a sub-thread initiated by Hendrik Boom (Message-ID:
I was wondering how long before you started again with your misplaced
tirades against Puri.sm.
Suffices to sat to demolish whatever you wrote that we're talking of a
*smartphone*, not laptops!
I.e. something that has no Intel chips inside. Are there
OpenPOWER-powered smartphones?
Would you
Everyone here knows purism stuff is blobbed right?
Their laptops have coreboot but that isn't open source firmware - the
hardware init process on their laptops is entirely blobbed (done via
FSP) and they are are being very dishonest for not stating this up front
and instead claiming to have "open
On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 08:27:45 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message
<20181031122744.clkla3eewf2bi...@topoi.pooq.com>:
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:53:03PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:01:03 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message
> > <20181030180103.7xwhnvyqbs6zn...@topoi.pooq.com>:
>
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 09:44:48AM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Hendrik Boom - 31.10.18, 01:49:
> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:53:03PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:01:03 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message
> > >
> > > <20181030180103.7xwhnvyqbs6zn...@topoi.pooq.com>:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 09:44:48 +0100, Martin wrote in message
<8914632.p2IEeqaq0r@merkaba>:
> Hendrik Boom - 31.10.18, 01:49:
> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:53:03PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:01:03 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message
> > >
> > >
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:53:03PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:01:03 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message
> <20181030180103.7xwhnvyqbs6zn...@topoi.pooq.com>:
>
> > I use Devuan on a Purism laptop. Purism's OS is based on Debian, and
> > has become contaminated with systemd.
On 10/28/18 3:14 AM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
I don't think you need SSH when using VNC. I just happen to have used
it only with SSH (and RDP).
Sure. I'll test it more. Tnx!
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Hendrik Boom - 31.10.18, 01:49:
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:53:03PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:01:03 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message
> >
> > <20181030180103.7xwhnvyqbs6zn...@topoi.pooq.com>:
> > > I use Devuan on a Purism laptop. Purism's OS is based on Debian,
> > >
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:53:03PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:01:03 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message
> <20181030180103.7xwhnvyqbs6zn...@topoi.pooq.com>:
>
> > I use Devuan on a Purism laptop. Purism's OS is based on Debian, and
> > has become contaminated with systemd.
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:01:03 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message
<20181030180103.7xwhnvyqbs6zn...@topoi.pooq.com>:
> I use Devuan on a Purism laptop. Purism's OS is based on Debian, and
> has become contaminated with systemd.
..they blindly accepted it?
> So, naturally, I replaced it with
I use Devuan on a Purism laptop. Purism's OS is based on Debian, and
has become contaminated with systemd. So, naturally, I replaced it
with Devuan.
It works very well, except for a problem with the touchpad.
I can move the mouse pointer around by stroking the touch pad and I can
do the
Lennart has a sense of humor? That's a little too much of an in joke
for me. Went right over my head . . .
On 2018-10-29 17:10, Daniel Reurich wrote:
I'm sure that's a joke relating to Redhat being bought out by IBM
...
On 30/10/18 11:02, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
OK. Having no idea what an
I'm sure that's a joke relating to Redhat being bought out by IBM
...
On 30/10/18 11:02, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> OK. Having no idea what an S/390 system is (except for a scan of the
> wikipedia page), I'm hoping that someone can 'splain how this will
> affect community based Linux and
Am Sonntag, 28. Oktober 2018 schrieb Dr. Nikolaus Klepp:
> Hi all!
>
> Today I tried to get bluetooth working on the PRiW0, which led me down a
> different rabbithole in the lands of "devuan vs. raspbian". First the
> findings:
>
> Devuan:
> - /dev/ttyACM0 appears always, either accessable
Hi all!
Today I tried to get bluetooth working on the PRiW0, which led me down a
different rabbithole in the lands of "devuan vs. raspbian". First the
findings:
Devuan:
- /dev/ttyACM0 appears always, either accessable on GPIO14/15 or via something
unknown (should be bt).
- /dev/ttyS0
Hi Miroslav,
Miroslav Skoric writes:
> On 10/23/18 1:49 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
>
>>
>> For access to other Linux boxen you may have to convince their sshd to
>> do X11 forwarding (probably enabled by default) but once that's working
>> you should have no problem showing their desktop on your
Am Freitag, 26. Oktober 2018 schrieb Gregory Nowak:
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 07:27:14PM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > Some additional information:
> > - booting with devuan rpi1 image gives no serial console, but rpi boots (to
> > an unknown state)
> > - adding "enable_uart=1" in
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 07:27:14PM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Some additional information:
> - booting with devuan rpi1 image gives no serial console, but rpi boots (to
> an unknown state)
> - adding "enable_uart=1" in config.txt and booting does not work, rpi
> activity led goes dark
Am Freitag, 26. Oktober 2018 schrieb Dr. Nikolaus Klepp:
> Am Freitag, 26. Oktober 2018 schrieb Arnt Karlsen:
> > On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 23:55:36 +0200, Dr. wrote in message
> > <201810252355.36418.dr.kl...@gmx.at>:
> >
> > > Hi all!
> > >
> > > I have a problem with Devuan on s new RPi W Zero:
Am Freitag, 26. Oktober 2018 schrieb Arnt Karlsen:
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 23:55:36 +0200, Dr. wrote in message
> <201810252355.36418.dr.kl...@gmx.at>:
>
> > Hi all!
> >
> > I have a problem with Devuan on s new RPi W Zero: Raspbian (latest
> > image) boots fine,
>
> ..does our own
>
On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 23:55:36 +0200, Dr. wrote in message
<201810252355.36418.dr.kl...@gmx.at>:
> Hi all!
>
> I have a problem with Devuan on s new RPi W Zero: Raspbian (latest
> image) boots fine,
..does our own
Hi all!
I have a problem with Devuan on s new RPi W Zero: Raspbian (latest image) boots
fine, system updates work. Then I try to get rid of systemd (replace raspbian
sources with devuan sources). Installing devuan-keyring works. Installing
"sysv-rc" "sysvinit-core" and "sysvinit-utils" throws
On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 14:51:48 +0200, Miroslav wrote in message
:
> On 10/23/18 1:45 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Hendrik, both boxes came to the club installed with Window$, and I
> >> have to keep them that way
> >
> > ..easy now, if these has lawful copies of Wintendo installed, you
On 10/23/18 1:49 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
For access to other Linux boxen you may have to convince their sshd to
do X11 forwarding (probably enabled by default) but once that's working
you should have no problem showing their desktop on your Devuan machine
using Remmina over SSH.
Olaf,
On 10/23/18 1:45 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
Hendrik, both boxes came to the club installed with Window$, and I
have to keep them that way
..easy now, if these has lawful copies of Wintendo installed, you
_can_ keep them that way. Now if these are the pirated ones you
spoke about, any judge
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 23:10:35 +0200, Miroslav wrote in message
<4149ab4f-76e2-f4e5-af96-38bd433dd...@uns.ac.rs>:
> On 10/20/2018 04:31 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> >>
> >> It's a seniors club, 70-75 at average. Some of them are more-less
> >> fluent in (pirated) Window$ -based mouse clicking to
Arnt Karlsen writes:
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 00:05:55 +1100, wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote in
> message <6ec111c6-d733-4e15-a944-e2419b63c...@gmail.com>:
>
>> >
>> > For Ubuntu there is Remina or like (if I recall the proper name)
>> > but duno what needs for Devuan.
>> >
>> > Misko
>>
>> Remains
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 11:10:35PM +0200, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> On 10/20/2018 04:31 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > >
> > > It's a seniors club, 70-75 at average. Some of them are more-less fluent
> > > in
> > > (pirated) Window$ -based mouse clicking to browse the Net, email, and
> > >
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 11:01:01PM +0200, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> On 10/20/2018 02:42 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> >
> > ..http://www.pclinuxos.com/ has a reputation for being the easiest
> > distro for your kinda newbie users. But it is not Devuan. ;o)
> >
> > ..https://www.qubes-os.org/ is
On 10/22/2018 02:38 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
Err, how old do you think the people who developed the "Internet" are?
Don't assume they don't have capable minds. We live in a world they
built.
I'm 72. Still capable mentally, though I need a cane to walk long distances.
Don't need a cane to
On 10/22/2018 02:36 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
alternatives. As I said I have two machines there, one is wired to a big TV
so they who sit in a last row can listen & watch.
What is the other one wired to? A local small display?
Both of them have their own small displays, and the faster box
On 10/20/2018 04:31 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
It's a seniors club, 70-75 at average. Some of them are more-less fluent in
(pirated) Window$ -based mouse clicking to browse the Net, email, and
office. So my point is to show them that there are free & unrestricted
alternatives. As I said I have
On 10/20/2018 02:42 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
..http://www.pclinuxos.com/ has a reputation for being the easiest
distro for your kinda newbie users. But it is not Devuan. ;o)
..https://www.qubes-os.org/ is also not Devuan, but an excellent way
to set up Devuan safely and securely in, er,
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 01:39:41PM +1100, terryc wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 13:07:19 +0200
> Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> >
> > It's a seniors club, 70-75 at average.
>
> Err, how old do you think the people who developed the "Internet" are?
> Don't assume they don't have capable minds. We live
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 01:07:19PM +0200, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> On 10/17/2018 03:18 PM, terryc wrote:
>
> > > Machines can
> > > ping each other now, so besides introducing Devuan, I also want to
> > > introduce Ubuntu via Devuan by some kind of remote GUI access or
> > > like. Suggestions?
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 13:07:19 +0200
Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> On 10/17/2018 03:18 PM, terryc wrote:
I'm going to start off by saying I'm unable to help you with your
quest. In fact, my answers are basically like the local who is asked by
a tourist "How do you get to blah-blah from here" and
> ..you mean remmina? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remmina
> https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=remmina
> https://manpages.debian.org/stretch-backports/remmina/remmina.1.en.html
Sorry, yes. I blame autocorrect for that mistake.
—Tom
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On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 01:14:25PM +0200, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> On 10/17/2018 09:10 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> >
> > You may end up with network delays for systems that are designed with
> > the speed of a local video display in mind.
> >
>
> Well I am not in a hurry. I would make a try in
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 01:07:19PM +0200, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> On 10/17/2018 03:18 PM, terryc wrote:
>
> > > Machines can
> > > ping each other now, so besides introducing Devuan, I also want to
> > > introduce Ubuntu via Devuan by some kind of remote GUI access or
> > > like. Suggestions?
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 00:05:55 +1100, wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote in
message <6ec111c6-d733-4e15-a944-e2419b63c...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > For Ubuntu there is Remina or like (if I recall the proper name)
> > but duno what needs for Devuan.
> >
> > Misko
>
> Remains is also available from
>
> For Ubuntu there is Remina or like (if I recall the proper name) but duno
> what needs for Devuan.
>
> Misko
Remains is also available from ascii-backports.
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 13:07:19 +0200, Miroslav wrote in message
<0a50e90e-0f7c-77c1-63f8-ce05b748f...@uns.ac.rs>:
> On 10/17/2018 03:18 PM, terryc wrote:
>
> >> Machines can
> >> ping each other now, so besides introducing Devuan, I also want to
> >> introduce Ubuntu via Devuan by some kind of
On 10/17/2018 10:16 PM, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
For Linux stuff I've become somewhat fond of X2go
Will check it. Tnx.
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On 10/17/2018 09:10 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
You may end up with network delays for systems that are designed with
the speed of a local video display in mind.
Well I am not in a hurry. I would make a try in any case before the
public demo, so if it does not work in acceptable way, I would
On 10/17/2018 05:14 PM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
The easiest way would be to make a connection with ssh -X or -Y which
enables X-forwarding. You then can start a individual X program from the
commandline but also the complete WM. Perfectly showing how capable
linux is in use.
On 10/17/2018 03:18 PM, terryc wrote:
Machines can
ping each other now, so besides introducing Devuan, I also want to
introduce Ubuntu via Devuan by some kind of remote GUI access or
like. Suggestions? Please note that there is no Internet access to
those boxes, so anything needed for each comp
Steve Litt wrote:
> "Multi-seat" makes little sense now that when you add a user you can give him
> or her a $400 computer with which he can share the server's data.
I would beg to disagree - at least for some workloads. I think "it depends" is
often teh answer to the question of "is
On 19/10/2018 15.04, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote:
OTOH, we could (as mentioned in another thread) invent some small
declarative config file format for expressing at least the very
common cases
There already is init-d-script (5).
On 17.10.2018 15:14, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Why doesn't Devuan edit sysvinit to use systemd's unit files instead
> of scripts? That would bypass the entire problem.
That would be a *very complex* task - basically reimplementing much
of systemd logic. Nothing that I could aggree to support.
Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2018 schrieb Steve Litt:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:50:39 +1100
> Erik Christiansen wrote:
>
> > On 18.10.18 11:37, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > OK. Next question. What is the cost difference between a computer
> > > terminal and a low power computer with the muscle to run apps
On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:50:39 +1100
Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 18.10.18 11:37, Steve Litt wrote:
> > OK. Next question. What is the cost difference between a computer
> > terminal and a low power computer with the muscle to run apps whose
> > data is on the central server?
>
> The price of
On 18.10.18 11:37, Steve Litt wrote:
> OK. Next question. What is the cost difference between a computer
> terminal and a low power computer with the muscle to run apps whose
> data is on the central server?
The price of hardware was entirely different back then, making re-use
much more
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:37:13AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 08:50:51 -0400
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 09:17:13AM -0300, Fernando M. Maresca wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 04:20:36PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Multiseating?
On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 08:50:51 -0400
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 09:17:13AM -0300, Fernando M. Maresca wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 04:20:36PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > Cgroups? There are other ways to do Cgroups without systemd, and
> > > a lot of systemd's buzz for
On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 08:50:51 -0400
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 09:17:13AM -0300, Fernando M. Maresca wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 04:20:36PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > >
> > > Multiseating? When's the last time you had serial cables to
> > > monitors? We have much
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 09:17:13AM -0300, Fernando M. Maresca wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 04:20:36PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> >
> > Multiseating? When's the last time you had serial cables to monitors?
> > We have much more efficient Gigabit Eternet.
Over serial lines? 1979. With
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 04:58:33PM +0200, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 09:30:50AM -0500, Daniel Taylor wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > > c) where and how would you draw the line indicating what's unacceptable
> > > about
> > > systemd - in other words, what exactly do you mean by "the Unix
Quoting Bruce Ferrell (bferr...@baywinds.org):
> For Linux stuff I've become somewhat fond of X2go
Yes, X2Go's really good -- delivering on the promise of FreenX (now
unmaintained) to greatly improve on the performance delivery of VNC/RFP
and RDP.
--
Cheers, Mia
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:58:33 +0200
KatolaZ wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 09:30:50AM -0500, Daniel Taylor wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > > c) where and how would you draw the line indicating what's
> > > unacceptable about systemd - in other words, what exactly do you
> > > mean by "the Unix
Quoting info at smallinnovations dot nl (i...@smallinnovations.nl):
> The easiest way would be to make a connection with ssh -X or -Y which
> enables X-forwarding. You then can start a individual X program from the
> commandline but also the complete WM. Perfectly showing how capable
> linux is
> ..the systemd approach was (and still is?) convert (or "generate")
> sysvinit scripts into systemd unit files.
Still is. But that is only half the issue. As mentioned already, any
attempt to run a sysv script is intercepted by SystemD. The
corresponding unit file ('generated' or 'packaged')
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 05:14:52PM +0200, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
> On 17-10-18 13:19, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I recently installed Devuan Jessie on a computer for presentations via
> > large TV. And that machine is also directly wired in a small LAN to
> >
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 05:51:11PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 October 2018 at 17:37:14, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
>
> > "They" REALLY want to force the use of systemd.
> >
> > I REALLY don't want to use systemd. I've seen too many problems since
> > it's introduction.
> >
> > Now
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 15:14:46 +0200, Edward wrote in message
:
> Why doesn't Devuan edit sysvinit to use systemd's unit files instead
> of scripts? That would bypass the entire problem. Those who want to
> stick to scripts can always direct sysvinit to use scripts instead.
..the systemd approach
On 10/17/18 8:51 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
On Wednesday 17 October 2018 at 17:37:14, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
On 10/17/18 8:24 AM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
On 17-10-18 15:14, Edward Bartolo wrote:
Why doesn't Devuan edit sysvinit to use systemd's unit files instead
of scripts? That
On Wednesday 17 October 2018 at 17:37:14, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
> On 10/17/18 8:24 AM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
> > On 17-10-18 15:14, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> >> Why doesn't Devuan edit sysvinit to use systemd's unit files instead
> >> of scripts? That would bypass the entire
On 10/17/18 8:24 AM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
On 17-10-18 15:14, Edward Bartolo wrote:
Why doesn't Devuan edit sysvinit to use systemd's unit files instead
of scripts? That would bypass the entire problem. Those who want to
stick to scripts can always direct sysvinit to use
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