Re: [DNG] reaffirm security in Devuan with spectre-meltdown mitigations WAS: grsecunoff retpoline patch, toolchain update needed

2018-02-06 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 180206-11:32+, KatolaZ wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 10:57:39AM +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > This is a re-send, because indeed the planned changed subject (just below) > > got > > lost. All the rest of the email is same as the previous. Pls. if you do > &

[DNG] reaffirm security in Devuan with spectre-meltdown mitigations WAS: grsecunoff retpoline patch, toolchain update needed

2018-02-06 Thread Miroslav Rovis
[1] that regards the entire Devuan OS's (as any other OSes) reliability (but my side of the interest/desire lies mostly in getting the necessary mitigations into the grsecunoff kernel) On 180204-00:05+, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > On 180203-23:35+0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > ... > >

Re: [DNG] grsecunoff retpoline patch, toolchain update needed

2018-02-05 Thread Miroslav Rovis
:05+, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > On 180203-23:35+0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > ... > > But I don't have the toolchain to support retpoline. Namely, the first > > thing at the onset of: > > > > fakeroot make deb-pkg > > > ... > > arch/x86/Makefi

Re: [DNG] grsecunoff retpoline patch, toolchain update needed

2018-02-03 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 180203-23:35+, Miroslav Rovis wrote: ... > But I don't have the toolchain to support retpoline. Namely, the first thing > at the onset of: > > fakeroot make deb-pkg > ... > arch/x86/Makefile:191: CONFIG_RETPOLINE=y, but not supported by the compiler. > Toolcha

[DNG] grsecunoff retpoline patch, toolchain update needed

2018-02-03 Thread Miroslav Rovis
-unofficial_grsec/issues/26#issuecomment-362809911 -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] eudev naming of network interfaces

2017-12-26 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 171226-20:04+0100, J. Fahrner wrote: > Am 2017-12-26 19:41, schrieb Miroslav Rovis: > > What ethers you have? Try: > > > > # ip l show > > $ ip l show > 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode > DEFAULT group default ql

Re: [DNG] eudev naming of network interfaces

2017-12-26 Thread Miroslav Rovis
fnames GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0" # to rid me of stupid --and non-persistent, falsely claiming to be persistent-- naming. -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ D

[DNG] how to filter rsyslog'ing for grsec-unoff hardened Devuan Ceres

2017-11-25 Thread Miroslav Rovis
ed testing/main amd64 Packages # If this would not be a quick issue, pls. split this thread by renaming it to something with eudev in its subject line. --- Thanks for the fine OS, Devuan people! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.

Re: [DNG] librezilla: [WAS: Has anyone tried waterfox?]

2017-10-31 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 171012-05:58+0300, m712 wrote: > My account had 'nomail' set for a while so I can't reply to the original, so > I'm replying over Enrico's message. > > On 23.09.2017 10:51, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > >of google's intrusivity; they can put most any spyware in vi

Re: [DNG] Devuan, Firefox and Apulse

2017-09-25 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170924-15:43-0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Miroslav Rovis (miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr): > > > > Quoting zap (calmst...@posteo.de): > > > > > > > > On 09/23/2017 10:35 PM, Rick Moen wrote: > > ... > > > If interested in

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-24 Thread Miroslav Rovis
see below why I left these lines from a previous email: On 170923-18:03+, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > On 170923-19:39+0200, Antoine wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 03:12:23PM +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > (...) > > > > > > Anybody got a quick tip

Re: [DNG] Devuan, Firefox and Apulse

2017-09-24 Thread Miroslav Rovis
also I'm spending more time than I can afford on these curiosities (both the legal one and this https one)... :-) BTW, I updated unofficial-grsecurity-hardened kernel deb packages this morning: https://croatiafidelis.hr/gnu/deb/linux-deb-4.9.51-unofficial+grsec170923-22/ ( a

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170923-19:39+0200, Antoine wrote: > On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 03:12:23PM +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > (...) > > > > Anybody got a quick tips page somewhere to find the exact color codes? Else > > I'm > > out of the discussion for now. Too much effort...

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
Also a reply by Renaud, further in bottom (with the color codes! :-) ) On 170923-18:50+0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 23/09/2017 à 16:54, Miroslav Rovis a écrit : The targetpw, three lines below is key to understanding my query that I posted regarding the ability to forget the root password w

Re: [DNG] Devuan, Firefox and Apulse

2017-09-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
re today or yesterday: Palemoon, on pure ALSA, in my sans-dbus system --means I also recompiled Palemoon sans-dbus--, audio/video in HTML5 works here, as far as I tested it. Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: PGP signature _

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
Also thanks for the quick replies, one from Renaud, in other emails. But... (see below)... On 170923-16:24+0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 23/09/2017 à 15:50, Miroslav Rovis a écrit : > > On 170923-19:01+1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > > On 23.09.17 10:15, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
113a114,124 [...] it appears that I set: force_color_prompt=yes in my ~/.bashrc . And that actually gives me color'ed mr@gdOv:~$ (I'm not an expert as I often admit.) Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr _bashrc.gz Description: application/gz

Re: [DNG] librezilla: [WAS: Has anyone tried waterfox?]

2017-09-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
a DE-bloated system ). --- [1] audio works, but more testing would be needed, haven't tested all, because of google's intrusivity; they can put most any spyware in videos, and I'm looking for the knowhow how to safely deal with Youtube videos, a very hard to gain knowledge, very advanced

Re: [DNG] GNU/Linux security and grsecurity, WAS: upgrade from Debian stretch to Devuan ascii?

2017-09-19 Thread Miroslav Rovis
be resolved quickly and with no harm for you, Bruce. > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017, 10:30 zap <calmst...@posteo.de> wrote: > > > > > > > On 09/19/2017 10:47 AM, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > ( citation manually inserted not to make two email replies; however, > &

Re: [DNG] security

2017-09-19 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170919-14:47-0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 02:47:00PM +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > I'm trying not to go off topic here... But just a few more words... > > Security in systems running Devuan is on topic here. We choose Devuan >

[DNG] GNU/Linux security and grsecurity, WAS: upgrade from Debian stretch to Devuan ascii?

2017-09-19 Thread Miroslav Rovis
I hope I haven't gone too much off topic. I presented my problem's basic aspects, and it's grsecurity that helped uncover it... unofficial-grsecurity that I try to offer tips about to newbies in Devuan ( for clarity: Grsecurity/Pax installation on Devuan GNU/Linux https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php

Re: [DNG] upgrade from Debian stretch to Devuan ascii?

2017-09-18 Thread Miroslav Rovis
aking for an (unknown duration) wait, maybe some of you can reply with full quote of my email, maybe by sending a fully forwarded email of mine? Thanks! Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Devuan Constitution and Social Contract WAS: Sexual politics and society

2017-07-19 Thread Miroslav Rovis
tml ) > > On Sunday 16 July 2017 at 19:55:21, Miroslav Rovis wrote: ( https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20170716.185521.017ad951.en.html ) > > > P.S. I hope no one will produce any hatred of same-sex people out of my > > > words above. By all means, pls. no!, I only regard those

Re: [DNG] I apologize, but I lost my email somehow with the, packages needed for openrc

2017-07-19 Thread Miroslav Rovis
med so good/tested-in-other-distros/well-maintained that it could become the default in Devuan. Our devs have expressed that understanding in various occasions on this ML. -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: PGP sig

Re: [DNG] I apologize, but I lost my email somehow with the, packages needed for openrc

2017-07-18 Thread Miroslav Rovis
I needed, I didn't need the i386 for myself), and installed them with kind help from *you* (in that very topic linked above) and, of course, the OpenRC maintainer Svante and others. How long is the span of your attention, zap? :) -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-16 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170716-13:18-0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 15:59:35 + > Miroslav Rovis <miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr> wrote: > > > Can't trust modern translations of Bible, actually so much undeserving > > of trust that they verge on disgusting... > &

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-16 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170716-12:10+0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 22:46:14 -0700, Rick wrote in message > <20170716054614.gi28...@linuxmafia.com>: > > > Quoting Miroslav Rovis (miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr): > > > > > But pls. people, I don't under

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-15 Thread Miroslav Rovis
isse iuvabit... ;-3) > > Ave atque vale, > > Ron. Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-15 Thread Miroslav Rovis
runs great sans-dbus! And that is, to me, security-wise, privacy-wise (in prospective, only in prospective), a beautiful thing. Mirabile dictu! (as Rick Moen in some of his writing these days reminded me of that Latin saying: it's wonderful to be able to say all that, wonderful to be able relate thi

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-13 Thread Miroslav Rovis
in case any of the senior members decide to write a more in-depth reply to these two Rick's recent emails. ) -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org http

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-13 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170713-18:09+0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: > On 13.07.2017 16:37, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > So true. I'm still banned from Gentoo Forums (also because I never asked to > > be > > back; I didn't feel I was to blame in the least). > > By the way

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-13 Thread Miroslav Rovis
gress::Fancy "off"; Binary::apt::DPkg::Progress-Fancy "off"; AllowInsecureRepositories "off"; # and then pasting all the output. Could I have? No! No, sorry, I couldn't comforably have done so... But it fits there, packages could have not installed correctly, a

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-12 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170712-13:05-0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Miroslav Rovis (miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr): > > > It's good that you linked to it. May need testing. > > As per usual. ;-> > > > And is good advice to GNU/Linux users to try it. > > I particularly

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-12 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170712-07:19-0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Miroslav Rovis (miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr): > > > Now it's sorted right, I hope: > > OpenRC installation in Devuan Ascii > > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1128#p328 > > > > And I also

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-12 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170711-23:18+0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Tue, 2017-07-11 at 17:26 +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: ... > > Do I understand correctly that only these two packages it would be > > useful that they remain posted there on my website temporarily: > > > > -rw-r--r-

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-11 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170711-18:12+0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Tue, 2017-07-11 at 15:35 +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > $ ls -ltr sysvinit-utils_2.88dsf-59.9_amd64.deb \ > > > > > > > > This one is n

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-11 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170711-09:13-0400, zap wrote: > > > On 07/11/2017 06:01 AM, Svante Signell wrote: > > On Tue, 2017-07-11 at 03:56 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > >> On 170710-23:39+0200, Svante Signell wrote: > >>> On Mon, 2017-07-10 at 14:12 +, Miroslav Rovis w

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-10 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170710-23:39+0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Mon, 2017-07-10 at 14:12 +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > Hi Svante and everybody! > > > > (and zap, to whom you right as second person in the email I'm > > replying to. zap > > might give useful advice, since he -

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-10 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170710-20:38+0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 01:28:28PM -0400, zap wrote: > > On 07/10/2017 11:26 AM, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > I've opened a topic: > > > OpenRC installation in Devuan Ascii > > > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-10 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170710-13:28-0400, zap wrote: Well, zap... > > On 07/10/2017 11:26 AM, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > On 170710-14:12+0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > >> Hi Svante and everybody! > >> > >> (and zap, to whom you right as second person in the email I'm replyi

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-10 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170710-14:12+, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > Hi Svante and everybody! > > (and zap, to whom you right as second person in the email I'm replying to. zap > might give useful advice, since he --later-- reported he successfully > installed > OpenRC) ... > By the way, if I get

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-10 Thread Miroslav Rovis
already re-written it a few times, tired...): > apt-get source util-linux (Does not work for me. The Sources file is > unfortunately empty) > apt-get build-dep util-linux > cd util-linux-2.29.2 > dpkg-buildpackage -b > cd ../build-area > dpkg -i util-linux_2.29.2-1+devuan1_.deb libfdis

[DNG] The goodness of Palemoon WAS: error processing package initscripts

2017-07-07 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170706-13:13+0100, G.W. Haywood wrote: > Ooops. Sorry about the previous subject line, finger slipped. > > Hi there, > > On Thu, 6 Jul 2017, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > ... I'm currently without a GUI browser, because of: > > Building Pale Moon on Devuan fai

Re: [DNG] error processing package initscripts, because /lib/init/vars.sh missing

2017-07-06 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170706-12:50+0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Thu, 2017-07-06 at 09:58 +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > On 170705-23:48+0200, Svante Signell wrote: > > > On Wed, 2017-07-05 at 21:05 +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > ... > > > > > If you are on i386 or am

Re: [DNG] error processing package initscripts, because /lib/init/vars.sh missing

2017-07-06 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170705-23:48+0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Wed, 2017-07-05 at 21:05 +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > > What is that /lib/init/vars.sh ? Which package should have installed > > it? What > > could be the reason that it is missing? > > Please don't reboot.

Re: [DNG] error processing package initscripts, because /lib/init/vars.sh missing

2017-07-05 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170705-21:05+, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > What is that /lib/init/vars.sh ? Which package should have installed it? What > could be the reason that it is missing? # dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/initscripts_2.88dsf-59.3+devuan2_amd64.deb reinstalled initscripts, and the /lib/init/v

[DNG] error processing package initscripts, because /lib/init/vars.sh missing

2017-07-05 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170705-10:25+0100, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 04:15:11AM +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > [cut] > > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > > build-essential : Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or > >

Re: [DNG] Broken packages in Ascii, how to fix? (Beware of Debian Stretch) WAS: devuan packages explorer

2017-07-05 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170705-10:25+0100, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 04:15:11AM +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > t@gdOv:/home/mr# ls -l /etc/apt/ > > total 32 > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 283 2017-07-03 18:15 apt.conf > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root roo

Re: [DNG] Broken packages in Ascii, how to fix? (Beware of Debian Stretch) WAS: devuan packages explorer

2017-07-05 Thread Miroslav Rovis
also need to reply to KatolaZ now, before (but pls. I'll say a little more in my reply to KatolaZ')... Kind regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng

[DNG] Broken packages in Ascii, how to fix? (Beware of Debian Stretch) WAS: devuan packages explorer

2017-07-05 Thread Miroslav Rovis
This is just correcting the subject line, and if there are no replies, withdrawing. Widrawing to dev1galaxy.org forums: Broken packages in Ascii, how to fix? (Beware of Debian Stretch) https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1115 On 170705-04:15+, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > On 170705-01:42+0

Re: [DNG] devuan packages explorer

2017-07-04 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170705-01:42+0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Tue, 2017-07-04 at 23:22 +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > On 170704-17:40+0200, Gionni FireGarden wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > Once these are done some day soon, it will contribute for Devuan > > becoming such >

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-03 Thread Miroslav Rovis
t; > > The specific text breached is "You may not impose any further > > restrictions on the recipients' exercise of the rights granted herein." > > > > On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Bruce Perens <br...@perens.com> wrote: > > > >> My legal counsel

Re: [DNG] Error updating ascii today

2017-07-02 Thread Miroslav Rovis
//packages.devuan.org/merged ascii InRelease [113 kB] Get:6 http://packages.devuan.org/devuan ascii InRelease [129 kB] Get:3 http://amprolla.devuan.org/merged ascii-security InRelease [112 kB] Fetched 580 kB in 4s (144 kB/s) Reading package lists... I'm on amd64, (also) a rather old machi

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

2017-07-01 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170630-13:16-0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 14:20:08 + > Miroslav Rovis <miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr> wrote: > > > On 170629-19:34-0400, zap wrote: > > > not really complaining for the most part. But I am curious that's > &g

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

2017-06-30 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170630-10:16-0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > On 2017-06-30 09:20, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > > . . . (and although I can log in to GDO, I'm > > very clumsy at finding out things in there still, to be able to tell > > you). > > > > I often get to gd

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

2017-06-30 Thread Miroslav Rovis
ent. And it's almost always later then they have been expected to happen. Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/

Re: [DNG] ascii-backports? for torbrowser-launcher install WAS: heads 0.3 released!

2017-06-30 Thread Miroslav Rovis
inus' approval WAS: I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii" was split at one time... If you reply from web, you don't get the "In-Reply-To: " header at all, it seems to me. But seeing that, I include it manually now... -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] grsecurity ripoff by Google, with Linus' approval WAS: I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-06-27 Thread Miroslav Rovis
But I can tell you all straight, this is so sad! You guys don't get what geniuses we, Linux developers testers, users, have kind of, lost... And some of you play clever talk on the issues that are bike-shedding on the real facts... Without noticing, or maybe deliberately not wanting to kno

Re: [DNG] Bash keyboard shortcuts working really ugly [SOLVED]

2017-05-29 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170526-14:52+0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On Thu, 25 May 2017 at 07:30:29 + > Miroslav Rovis <miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr> wrote: > > > On 170525-06:51+0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > > On Wed, 24 May 2017 at 16:27:36 + Miroslav Rovis > > &g

Re: [DNG] Bash keyboard shortcuts working really ugly

2017-05-25 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170524-20:03-0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 24 May 2017 22:28:22 + > Miroslav Rovis <miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr> wrote: > > > I'll also reply to Steve Litt's mail, > > [big snip] > > > You lose donuts/dollars :) ! It is xterm! And only xte

Re: [DNG] Bash keyboard shortcuts working really ugly [SOLVED]

2017-05-25 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170525-06:51+0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On Wed, 24 May 2017 at 16:27:36 +0000 Miroslav Rovis > <miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr> wrote: > ... > > > > mr@gd0v:~$ I am only trying to demonstate the issue. ERRATA: demonstrate > > > > That's ' I' in firs

Re: [DNG] Bash keyboard shortcuts working really ugly

2017-05-24 Thread Miroslav Rovis
only depend on it, but refused to use dbus in any way)... I hope it's a little clearer what my issue is, and I'm willing to provide more info. And sorry for the delay. There are still things that I can only do with my mildly broken Gentoo (and which I had to be working on this evening),

[DNG] No mail attachments get to Devuan ML web (and worse) WAS: Help with xmodmap+xcape

2017-05-13 Thread Miroslav Rovis
le https://www.mail-archive.com/dng@lists.dyne.org/msg15192.html Pls. have a look in it: the attachments are all there. I bet the email can even be verified with my PGP sig attached... Thanks for everyone's kind consideration. -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Cro

Re: [DNG] unoffic-grsec 4.9.27 kernel compile, one last hurdle

2017-05-12 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170513-00:21+0200, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > On 170512-22:49+0200, Mathias Krause wrote: > > Hi Miroslav, > > > > On 12 May 2017 at 22:06, Miroslav Rovis <miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr> > > wrote: > > > [...] ... > > Thanks for testing! > Ver

Re: [DNG] unoffic-grsec 4.9.27 kernel compile, one last hurdle

2017-05-12 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170512-22:49+0200, Mathias Krause wrote: > Hi Miroslav, > > On 12 May 2017 at 22:06, Miroslav Rovis <miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr> wrote: > > [...] > > dpkg-gencontrol: error: illegal package name > > 'linux-headers-4.9.27-unofficial_grsec170512-14': char

Re: [DNG] unoffic-grsec 4.9.27 kernel compile, one last hurdle

2017-05-12 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170512-22:32+0200, Jaromil wrote: > dear Miroslav, > > On Fri, 12 May 2017, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > [4] Will git.devuan.org be getting more reliable in availability, is > > that expected? I wouldn't mind that it couldn't possibly be as > >

[DNG] unoffic-grsec 4.9.27 kernel compile, one last hurdle

2017-05-12 Thread Miroslav Rovis
326254 and the links from there, esp.: find "Shawn", and "Karen Sandler" Sincere regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr grsec-dev1-compile.sh.gz Description: Binary data Dev1_170512_fakeroot_make_deb-pkg_ERROR.txt.gz Description: Binary

Re: [DNG] Which is Free, Which is Open Source, is there any difference?

2017-04-26 Thread Miroslav Rovis
any dissidents worldwide have been tortured and their death is on you, because of your spying and your selling of whatever the intelligence you gathered (ah, it's always been much more than just meta data... you've always invaded privacy of anybody's within your reach

[DNG] Creative Commons licenses, which are free? WAS: BAD sig with Devuan Jessie 1.0.0-RC

2017-04-25 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170424-15:59-0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Miroslav Rovis (miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr): > > > IOW, I asked for links where it is explained why "the withholding of > > commercial-usage rights" "is not deemed an open source / free-software > >

Re: [DNG] BAD sig with Devuan Jessie 1.0.0-RC

2017-04-24 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170424-17:28-0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 23:22:09 +0200 > Miroslav Rovis <miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr> wrote: > > > Hmmh... right now I'm having some health issues, and can only work at > > rather degraded level of efficiency... Do you have any

Re: [DNG] BAD sig with Devuan Jessie 1.0.0-RC

2017-04-24 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170424-10:21-0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Miroslav Rovis (miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr): > > > Also I was a little too harsh toward Rick. Sorry! > > Not the slightest offence taken. Very glad to read that! :) > I was just trying to help you and > others deal w

Re: [DNG] BAD sig with Devuan Jessie 1.0.0-RC

2017-04-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170423-22:30+0200, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > ... But the hashes *are* there > in my previous mail, and thanks to PGP they are verifiably exactly what > I sent...)... But I'll see to the missing information. I'm now starting > more serious work on this. Thanks, Rick for yo

Re: [DNG] BAD sig with Devuan Jessie 1.0.0-RC

2017-04-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
serious work on this. On 170423-17:24+0200, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > I already sent this message, but it's 110k altogether, and it's awaiting: > ... > Because I'm removing the network trace, which is 83k, and makes the > mail 110k (because of base64). The rest is the same as in previous e

[DNG] BAD sig with Devuan Jessie 1.0.0-RC

2017-04-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
m -c SHA256SUMS_CHECK devuan_jessie_1.0.0-RC_amd64_DVD.iso: OK $ Do other readers get Jaromil's sig on that hash verified? (I'm also attaching the SHA256SUMS.asc SHA256SUMS and don't verify here.) -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr 39ac1f1cdd007e9

Re: [DNG] files.devua.org cert expired

2017-04-07 Thread Miroslav Rovis
ing worked on, because this is still the case? And it's very ugly... What users see in their browsers is the usual awful, hidious warning ( the "This connection is untrusted" over the entire page ) that no owner of any server in the world wants on their web... ( I _may_ be able to help with

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a qemu VM guest

2017-03-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
t; March 2017 featured book: Troubleshooting: Why Bother? > > http://www.troubleshooters.com/twb > > ___ ... > -- > Joel Roth > BTW, I'm also so happy to be on the Debian Escapees list: http://troubleshooters.com/linux/de

Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here (Alessandro Selli)

2017-03-14 Thread Miroslav Rovis
Firefox 52.0. I don't > > want to install PulseAudio in Devuan Linux system at all. Why should I? > > It's disturbing trend that some FOSS organization create false claim to > justify their new decision that breaks Linux system at the core. > > I gotta start hunting a reliabl

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

2017-03-13 Thread Miroslav Rovis
tt in another email ) > > -- > GPG Key: 0769 AFCF 681E F61E 2137 F4CB 5044 1726 610D 5AE0 Your key imported here. Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] default live Devuan username and password not easily available?

2017-02-24 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170224-11:46+, KatolaZ wrote: > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:29:43PM +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > In the meantime, I believe the main conclusion to draw here, is set > > those suggestions in the Installation README, or anywhere close, su

Re: [DNG] default live Devuan username and password not easily available?

2017-02-24 Thread Miroslav Rovis
Thanks for all the replies. To Hendrik, but also golinux, smallinovations.nl, KatolaZ, and even our kind leader Jaromil. On 170223-13:44-0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 05:32:36PM +, KatolaZ wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 04:26:46PM +0100, Miroslav Ro

Re: [DNG] default live Devuan username and password not easily available?

2017-02-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170223-13:59+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: ... > default login username and password for (live media) > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=573 ... no replies so far. > > So, in my Gentoo: > > $ qemu-system-x86_64 -cpu host -display gtk -m 1024M -machine \ >

Re: [DNG] SSL certificate on devuan.org invalid

2017-02-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
>] 507.26M 5.29MB/sin 87s 2017-02-23 13:02:43 (5.83 MB/s) - ‘devuan_jessie_1.0.0-beta2_amd64.qcow2.xz’ saved [531904260/531904260] $ The image later verified (with the <...>.sha that I also downloaded. So this may not be an urgent matter. Regards! -- Mirosl

[DNG] default live Devuan username and password not easily available?

2017-02-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
ominently: https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/unofficial_devuan_live/ NOTE: that username and password didn't work Pls. help/fix! (if I'm not mistaken in some way) -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: [DNG] eudev status

2016-12-22 Thread Miroslav Rovis
> Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___

Re: [DNG] Won't boot after dist-upgrade

2016-12-15 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 161215-20:50+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > Just worth trying, maybe... Some issues with memory and swap could be > overcome that way. Oh, no, not sway of course, but the RAM issues. Let it all purge out from RAM, just in case. -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFide

Re: [DNG] Won't boot after dist-upgrade

2016-12-15 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 161215-19:31+, KatolaZ wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 08:14:25PM +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > It's related with ATI cards, but with the newer kernel than yours, so... > > > > (And there are some issues with some

Re: [DNG] Won't boot after dist-upgrade

2016-12-15 Thread Miroslav Rovis
no booting activity ... It's related with ATI cards, but with the newer kernel than yours, so... (And there are some issues with some Nvidia cards on Gentoo users ML too.) Certainly, blank screen can indicate problems with graphics card... -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaF

Re: [DNG] recent debian-systemd-people gaffe

2016-11-29 Thread Miroslav Rovis
erlying them. > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: Digital signature _

Re: [DNG] recent debian-systemd-people gaffe

2016-11-28 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 161128-21:41+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: ... CORRECTION: > And allow me to say just one thing, you'll see why. > > SteveL who was lmao ([l]aughing [m] [a]ss [o]ut for a casual reader > visiting here] > ( MISPLACED: > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-987268-start-50.ht

Re: [DNG] recent debian-systemd-people gaffe

2016-11-28 Thread Miroslav Rovis
y happened here, not saying about here, but generally). And you never know how valuable supporter you are really losing, and what the insuing damage will be... Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___

Re: [DNG] devuan-discuss is not useful, quite the opposite

2016-11-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
ng list), but those that were banned did not reappear, apparently they were not admitted back, or? I hope this project still takes off in the future. With systemd the Linux is going to its own nice looking ruin (will be in the hands of the big business, surveillance an

Re: [DNG] Recent Security Update Discrepancy

2016-11-12 Thread Miroslav Rovis
find my first reply where it belonged (but only after I manipulated the email headers in my reply): https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20161112.210850.af43950d.en.html On 16-20:35+0100, aitor_czr wrote: > > Hi Miroslav, > > > On 11/11/2016 01:00 PM, Miroslav

[DNG] Devuan KVM guest install using ISO, virt-install and text based installation

2016-11-12 Thread Miroslav Rovis
reply further below! On 16-20:35+0100, aitor_czr wrote: > > Hi Miroslav, > > > On 11/11/2016 01:00 PM, Miroslav Rovis <miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr> wrote: > > Thanks for replying. > > > > However, my attempts got bogged down at: > > > > v

Re: [DNG] Devuan KVM guest install using ISO, virt-install and text based installation

2016-11-10 Thread Miroslav Rovis
: > Okay, doing a reply all to make sure that Miroslav gets this okay > > On 10/11/16 00:31, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > ... > > I said would [be looking into this tutorial, if...]. > > If this: > >> Once the install was done, I dumped the xml, edited it,

Re: [DNG] Devuan KVM guest install using ISO, virt-install and text based installation

2016-11-09 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 161109-14:31+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > Hi! > > I'll be looking into this tutorial, if... (see below) : > > On 161107-02:08+1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: ... > If this: > > Once the install was done, I dumped the xml, edited it, undefined the > > gue

Re: [DNG] Devuan KVM guest install using ISO, virt-install and text based installation

2016-11-09 Thread Miroslav Rovis
er/thread/20161106.150857.ddc5e862.en.html#20161106.150857.ddc5e862 [by sticking]: au:McGlashan in the search box, it's so much nicer and more readily used when you get the whole thread like for the other subject where you participated: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/thread/20161106.151359.452cfd

Re: [DNG] devuan-discuss is not useful, quite the opposite

2016-11-07 Thread Miroslav Rovis
nt in history! Thanks for the link! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Debuan Opennebula image minor stall at boot

2016-10-16 Thread Miroslav Rovis
Just to clarify the (non existent) issue below. On 161016-00:02+0200, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > Hi! > > I'm making some progress in using VMs, and here is what I managed with > Devuan Opennebula image, so far: > > http://www.croatiafidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-161015-qemu-devuan/

[DNG] Debuan Opennebula image minor stall at boot

2016-10-15 Thread Miroslav Rovis
it, but it can't even be pinged. It appears dead. Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [DNG] devuan jessie crashes during boot on 10 year old iMac

2016-10-11 Thread Miroslav Rovis
t possible my wheezy installation was a bit too minimal? > > > > Or maybe my /boot partition was bit too small? I set it at 256MB. > > > > All suggestions welcome. > > > > And as an FYI - dist-upgrade from squeeze to devuan-jessie fails. You >

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