Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Didier Kryn]

Le 05/11/2017 à 18:09, KatolaZ a écrit :

On Sun, Nov 05, 2017 at 06:01:56PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:

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tried
apt-file purge; apt-file-update

 Still the same.
 Didier

what do you have in your sources.list?
I messed it up; I changed the repository addess for 
jessie-security, jessie-update and jessie-backport but forgot the most 
important, jessie. Now it works. Sorry for the noise.


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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[KatolaZ]

On Sun, Nov 05, 2017 at 06:01:56PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:

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> tried
> apt-file purge; apt-file-update
> 
> Still the same.
> Didier


what do you have in your sources.list?

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Didier Kryn]

Le 05/11/2017 à 17:55, Didier Kryn a écrit :

Le 05/11/2017 à 15:00, KatolaZ a écrit :

On Sun, Nov 05, 2017 at 12:26:27PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:

Le 20/10/2017 à 23:47, goli...@dyne.org a écrit :

The new amprolla3 also provides support for the currently missing
Contents*.gz files (solving the apt-file bug). The feature will be
made available in the coming couple of days.

 Hi Golinux.
 I've replaced ftp.mirror with pkgmaster and it works nicely.
 apt-file now works but it misses most of the database. See the two
following examples:
~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/gcc
~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/zip
openfoam: /usr/bin/zipUpMesh


Hi Didier,

here on ascii:

katolaz@akela:~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/gcc
ccontrol: /usr/bin/gccontrol
gcc: /usr/bin/gcc
gcc: /usr/bin/gcc-ar
gcc: /usr/bin/gcc-nm
gcc: /usr/bin/gcc-ranlib
gcc-6: /usr/bin/gcc-6
gcc-6: /usr/bin/gcc-ar-6
gcc-6: /usr/bin/gcc-nm-6
gcc-6: /usr/bin/gcc-ranlib-6
gcc-python3-dbg-plugin: /usr/bin/gcc-with-python3_dbg
gcc-python3-plugin: /usr/bin/gcc-with-python3
gccgo: /usr/bin/gccgo
gccgo-6: /usr/bin/gccgo-6
gnat-6: /usr/bin/gcc-6-6
pentium-builder: /usr/bin/gcc
xutils-dev: /usr/bin/gccmakedep
$

katolaz@akela:~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/zip
hatari: /usr/bin/zip2st
openfoam: /usr/bin/zipUpMesh
perl: /usr/bin/zipdetails
unzip: /usr/bin/zipgrep
unzip: /usr/bin/zipinfo
zip: /usr/bin/zip
zip: /usr/bin/zipcloak
zip: /usr/bin/zipnote
zip: /usr/bin/zipsplit
zipalign: /usr/bin/zipalign
zipcmp: /usr/bin/zipcmp
zipmerge: /usr/bin/zipmerge
ziproxy: /usr/bin/ziproxy
ziproxy: /usr/bin/ziproxylogtool
ziptime: /usr/bin/ziptime
ziptool: /usr/bin/ziptool
$

My2Cents

KatolaZ

I'm still on Jessie.


tried
apt-file purge; apt-file-update

Still the same.
Didier


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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Didier Kryn]

Le 05/11/2017 à 15:00, KatolaZ a écrit :

On Sun, Nov 05, 2017 at 12:26:27PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:

Le 20/10/2017 à 23:47, goli...@dyne.org a écrit :

The new amprolla3 also provides support for the currently missing
Contents*.gz files (solving the apt-file bug). The feature will be
made available in the coming couple of days.

 Hi Golinux.
 I've replaced ftp.mirror with pkgmaster and it works nicely.
 apt-file now works but it misses most of the database. See the two
following examples:
~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/gcc
~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/zip
openfoam: /usr/bin/zipUpMesh


Hi Didier,

here on ascii:

katolaz@akela:~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/gcc
ccontrol: /usr/bin/gccontrol
gcc: /usr/bin/gcc
gcc: /usr/bin/gcc-ar
gcc: /usr/bin/gcc-nm
gcc: /usr/bin/gcc-ranlib
gcc-6: /usr/bin/gcc-6
gcc-6: /usr/bin/gcc-ar-6
gcc-6: /usr/bin/gcc-nm-6
gcc-6: /usr/bin/gcc-ranlib-6
gcc-python3-dbg-plugin: /usr/bin/gcc-with-python3_dbg
gcc-python3-plugin: /usr/bin/gcc-with-python3
gccgo: /usr/bin/gccgo
gccgo-6: /usr/bin/gccgo-6
gnat-6: /usr/bin/gcc-6-6
pentium-builder: /usr/bin/gcc
xutils-dev: /usr/bin/gccmakedep
$

katolaz@akela:~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/zip
hatari: /usr/bin/zip2st
openfoam: /usr/bin/zipUpMesh
perl: /usr/bin/zipdetails
unzip: /usr/bin/zipgrep
unzip: /usr/bin/zipinfo
zip: /usr/bin/zip
zip: /usr/bin/zipcloak
zip: /usr/bin/zipnote
zip: /usr/bin/zipsplit
zipalign: /usr/bin/zipalign
zipcmp: /usr/bin/zipcmp
zipmerge: /usr/bin/zipmerge
ziproxy: /usr/bin/ziproxy
ziproxy: /usr/bin/ziproxylogtool
ziptime: /usr/bin/ziptime
ziptool: /usr/bin/ziptool
$

My2Cents

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I'm still on Jessie.

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 14:00:59 +, KatolaZ wrote in message 
<20171105140059.gj4...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:

> On Sun, Nov 05, 2017 at 12:26:27PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
> > Le 20/10/2017 à 23:47, goli...@dyne.org a écrit :  
> > >The new amprolla3 also provides support for the currently missing
> > >Contents*.gz files (solving the apt-file bug). The feature will be
> > >made available in the coming couple of days.  
> >     Hi Golinux.
> >     I've replaced ftp.mirror with pkgmaster and it works nicely.
> >     apt-file now works but it misses most of the database. See the
> > two following examples:
> > ~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/gcc
> > ~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/zip
> > openfoam: /usr/bin/zipUpMesh
> >   
> 
> Hi Didier,
> 
> here on ascii:
> 
> katolaz@akela:~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/gcc
> ccontrol: /usr/bin/gccontrol
> gcc: /usr/bin/gcc
> gcc: /usr/bin/gcc-ar
> gcc: /usr/bin/gcc-nm
> gcc: /usr/bin/gcc-ranlib
> gcc-6: /usr/bin/gcc-6
> gcc-6: /usr/bin/gcc-ar-6
> gcc-6: /usr/bin/gcc-nm-6
> gcc-6: /usr/bin/gcc-ranlib-6
> gcc-python3-dbg-plugin: /usr/bin/gcc-with-python3_dbg
> gcc-python3-plugin: /usr/bin/gcc-with-python3
> gccgo: /usr/bin/gccgo
> gccgo-6: /usr/bin/gccgo-6
> gnat-6: /usr/bin/gcc-6-6
> pentium-builder: /usr/bin/gcc
> xutils-dev: /usr/bin/gccmakedep
> $
> 
> katolaz@akela:~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/zip
> hatari: /usr/bin/zip2st
> openfoam: /usr/bin/zipUpMesh
> perl: /usr/bin/zipdetails
> unzip: /usr/bin/zipgrep
> unzip: /usr/bin/zipinfo
> zip: /usr/bin/zip
> zip: /usr/bin/zipcloak
> zip: /usr/bin/zipnote
> zip: /usr/bin/zipsplit
> zipalign: /usr/bin/zipalign
> zipcmp: /usr/bin/zipcmp
> zipmerge: /usr/bin/zipmerge
> ziproxy: /usr/bin/ziproxy
> ziproxy: /usr/bin/ziproxylogtool
> ziptime: /usr/bin/ziptime
> ziptool: /usr/bin/ziptool
> $
> 
> My2Cents
> 
> KatolaZ
> 

...and on Jessie with exerimental vdev-0.1.2 
after running 'apt-file update':
arnt@d44:~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/gcc
ccontrol: /usr/bin/gccontrol
gcc: /usr/bin/gcc
gcc: /usr/bin/gcc-ar
gcc: /usr/bin/gcc-nm
gcc: /usr/bin/gcc-ranlib
gcc-4.8: /usr/bin/gcc-4.8
gcc-4.8: /usr/bin/gcc-ar-4.8
gcc-4.8: /usr/bin/gcc-nm-4.8
gcc-4.8: /usr/bin/gcc-ranlib-4.8
gcc-4.9: /usr/bin/gcc-4.9
gcc-4.9: /usr/bin/gcc-ar-4.9
gcc-4.9: /usr/bin/gcc-nm-4.9
gcc-4.9: /usr/bin/gcc-ranlib-4.9
gccgo: /usr/bin/gccgo
gccgo-4.8: /usr/bin/gccgo-4.8
gccgo-4.9: /usr/bin/gccgo-4.9
gccxml: /usr/bin/gccxml
gccxml: /usr/bin/gccxml_cc1plus
hardening-wrapper: /usr/bin/gcc-4.2
hardening-wrapper: /usr/bin/gcc-4.3
hardening-wrapper: /usr/bin/gcc-4.4
hardening-wrapper: /usr/bin/gcc-4.5
hardening-wrapper: /usr/bin/gcc-4.6
hardening-wrapper: /usr/bin/gcc-4.7
hardening-wrapper: /usr/bin/gcc-4.8
hardening-wrapper: /usr/bin/gcc-4.9
pentium-builder: /usr/bin/gcc
xutils-dev: /usr/bin/gccmakedep
arnt@d44:~$ apt-file search usr/bin/zip
hatari: /usr/bin/zip2st
libio-compress-perl: /usr/bin/zipdetails
openfoam: /usr/bin/zipUpMesh
perl: /usr/bin/zipdetails
unzip: /usr/bin/zipgrep
unzip: /usr/bin/zipinfo
zip: /usr/bin/zip
zip: /usr/bin/zipcloak
zip: /usr/bin/zipnote
zip: /usr/bin/zipsplit
zipalign: /usr/bin/zipalign
zipcmp: /usr/bin/zipcmp
zipmerge: /usr/bin/zipmerge
ziproxy: /usr/bin/ziproxy
ziproxy: /usr/bin/ziproxylogtool
ziptorrent: /usr/bin/ziptorrent
arnt@d44:~$ apt-file purge
arnt@d44:~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/gcc
E: The cache is empty. You need to run 'apt-file update' first.
arnt@d44:~$ apt-file search usr/bin/zip
E: The cache is empty. You need to run 'apt-file update' first.


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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[KatolaZ]

On Sun, Nov 05, 2017 at 12:26:27PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 20/10/2017 à 23:47, goli...@dyne.org a écrit :
> >The new amprolla3 also provides support for the currently missing
> >Contents*.gz files (solving the apt-file bug). The feature will be
> >made available in the coming couple of days.
>     Hi Golinux.
>     I've replaced ftp.mirror with pkgmaster and it works nicely.
>     apt-file now works but it misses most of the database. See the two
> following examples:
> ~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/gcc
> ~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/zip
> openfoam: /usr/bin/zipUpMesh
> 

Hi Didier,

here on ascii:

katolaz@akela:~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/gcc
ccontrol: /usr/bin/gccontrol
gcc: /usr/bin/gcc
gcc: /usr/bin/gcc-ar
gcc: /usr/bin/gcc-nm
gcc: /usr/bin/gcc-ranlib
gcc-6: /usr/bin/gcc-6
gcc-6: /usr/bin/gcc-ar-6
gcc-6: /usr/bin/gcc-nm-6
gcc-6: /usr/bin/gcc-ranlib-6
gcc-python3-dbg-plugin: /usr/bin/gcc-with-python3_dbg
gcc-python3-plugin: /usr/bin/gcc-with-python3
gccgo: /usr/bin/gccgo
gccgo-6: /usr/bin/gccgo-6
gnat-6: /usr/bin/gcc-6-6
pentium-builder: /usr/bin/gcc
xutils-dev: /usr/bin/gccmakedep
$

katolaz@akela:~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/zip
hatari: /usr/bin/zip2st
openfoam: /usr/bin/zipUpMesh
perl: /usr/bin/zipdetails
unzip: /usr/bin/zipgrep
unzip: /usr/bin/zipinfo
zip: /usr/bin/zip
zip: /usr/bin/zipcloak
zip: /usr/bin/zipnote
zip: /usr/bin/zipsplit
zipalign: /usr/bin/zipalign
zipcmp: /usr/bin/zipcmp
zipmerge: /usr/bin/zipmerge
ziproxy: /usr/bin/ziproxy
ziproxy: /usr/bin/ziproxylogtool
ziptime: /usr/bin/ziptime
ziptool: /usr/bin/ziptool
$

My2Cents

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Didier Kryn]

Le 20/10/2017 à 23:47, goli...@dyne.org a écrit :

The new amprolla3 also provides support for the currently missing
Contents*.gz files (solving the apt-file bug). The feature will be
made available in the coming couple of days. 

    Hi Golinux.
    I've replaced ftp.mirror with pkgmaster and it works nicely.
    apt-file now works but it misses most of the database. See the two 
following examples:

~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/gcc
~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/zip
openfoam: /usr/bin/zipUpMesh

   Best
                    Didier
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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[aitor_czr]

On 10/22/2017 03:37 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

We have been testing amprolla3 for more than two months now, on
dozens machines, and it has been working like a charm.


Great news :)

Aitor



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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Alexander Bochmann]

Hi,

...on Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 04:47:57PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote:

 > - replace "auto.mirror.devuan.org" with "pkgmaster.devuan.org" in
 >   your /etc/apt/sources.list
 > - # apt-get update
 > - # apt-get install devuan-keyring

I just updated an ascii system that had been shut down 
for three months, and the only minor nitpick is that I 
had to get an updated devuan-keyring *before* changing 
the sources to pkgmaster.devuan.org...

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Massimiliano Baldinelli]

On 10/20/2017 11:47 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote:


If you want to help testing the new amprolla3, you just need to:

- replace "auto.mirror.devuan.org" with "pkgmaster.devuan.org" in
   your /etc/apt/sources.list
- # apt-get update
- # apt-get install devuan-keyring


I'm on ASCII, just made the switch, 34 packages to upgrade (about 76M). 
Apparently no problem here.


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[DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Edward Bartolo]

On ASCII "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade" pulled about 150M of
packages. This is the first time since several months this has
occurred. Well done to all!
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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Antony Stone]

On Monday 23 October 2017 at 00:39:29, Fungi4All wrote:

> go to devuan''s front page and run a text search for onion
> it is right there

You mean accessing the Devuan repositories via the Tor network?

That's a network routing question, not a repository question.


Antony.

> > From: Antony Stone
> > To: Devuan
> > 
> > On Sunday 22 October 2017 at 23:28:51, Fungal-net wrote:
> >> I am still unclear on what the onion repositories are
> >> 
> >> Me too - what are you referrring to?
> >> 
> >> and what our choice is at this stage. Are we on amprolla3?
> >> 
> >> Well, according to what I've seen on the list so far, if you have
> >> "auto.mirror.devuan.org" in your sources.list, then you're on the old
> >> amprolla; if you have "pkgmaster.devuan.org", then you're on the new
> >> amprolla3.
> >> 
> >> Are debian's non onion addressed used automatically during upgrade
> >> 
> >> I still don't quite understand what "onion" means here.
> >> 
> >> or is it an illusion to see http://debian  through while the update
> >> takes place?
> >> 
> >> Plenty (in fact most) of Devuan's packages are just plain Debian
> >> packages, redirected to the Devuan repository.
> >> 
> >> Basically, anything which does not depend on systemd is a plain Debian
> >> package, and you end up getting it from a Debian repository. Anything
> >> which does (did?) depend on systemd is served (as a package without the
> >> systemd dependencies etc) from the Devuan repository.
> >> 
> >> I hope that helps (and I hope I find out what "onion" means here),
> >> 
> >> Antony.

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[KatolaZ]

On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 05:28:51PM -0400, Fungal-net wrote:
> I am still unclear on what the onion repositories are and what our choice is 
> at this stage.  Are we on amprolla3?  Are debian's non onion addressed used 
> automatically during upgrade or is it an illusion to see http://debian  
> through while the update takes place?


Hi,

the devuan onion URL points to pkgmaster.devuan.org, hence if you use
onion you are using amprolla3. onion requests for non-forked packages
(i.e., those coming from Debian) are correctly redireted to an onion
Debian repo (we have triple-checked right now), so if your onion
configuration is correct you should see only tor+http requests during
apt-get update and apt-get install/upgrade.

HTH

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Antony Stone]

On Sunday 22 October 2017 at 23:28:51, Fungal-net wrote:

> I am still unclear on what the onion repositories are

Me too - what are you referrring to?

> and what our choice is at this stage.  Are we on amprolla3?

Well, according to what I've seen on the list so far, if you have 
"auto.mirror.devuan.org" in your sources.list, then you're on the old 
amprolla; if you have "pkgmaster.devuan.org", then you're on the new 
amprolla3.

> Are debian's non onion addressed used automatically during upgrade

I still don't quite understand what "onion" means here.

> or is it an illusion to see http://debian  through while the update
> takes place?

Plenty (in fact most) of Devuan's packages are just plain Debian packages, 
redirected to the Devuan repository.

Basically, anything which does not depend on systemd is a plain Debian 
package, and you end up getting it from a Debian repository.  Anything which 
does (did?) depend on systemd is served (as a package without the systemd 
dependencies etc) from the Devuan repository.

I hope that helps (and I hope I find out what "onion" means here),


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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 22:17:00 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message 
<20171022211700.gi4...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:

> On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 05:50:54PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> 
> [cut]
> 
> > 
> > ..I see the last mirror update on the Debian side was: ...
> > ftp-master.debian.org 2017-10-22 16:48 305
> > arnt@d44:~/Taranis$ lynx -dump \
> > http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/project/trace/ |grep _traces 
> > [ ] [8]_traces 2017-10-22 17:11 72 
> > 8. http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/project/trace/_traces
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ...so, do we now have the bug fix in effect now at 17:36:38 CEST,
> > or after our next amprolla3 merge run, say around midnight CEST?
> >   
> 
> Dear Arnt,
> 
> amprolla3 merges every few minutes, and thefix is already in place.
> 
> HTH

..it does, thank you all. :o)

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

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I am still unclear on what the onion repositories are and what our choice is at 
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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[KatolaZ]

On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 05:50:54PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

[cut]

> 
> ..I see the last mirror update on the Debian side was: ...
> ftp-master.debian.org 2017-10-22 16:48 305
> arnt@d44:~/Taranis$ lynx -dump \
> http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/project/trace/ |grep _traces 
>   [ ] [8]_traces 2017-10-22 17:11 72 
>   8. http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/project/trace/_traces
> 
> 
> 
> ...so, do we now have the bug fix in effect now at 17:36:38 CEST,
> or after our next amprolla3 merge run, say around midnight CEST?
> 

Dear Arnt,

amprolla3 merges every few minutes, and thefix is already in place.

HTH

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[fsmithred]

On 10/22/2017 10:10 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 08:22:57 -0400
> fsmithred  wrote:
> 
>> On 10/22/2017 06:51 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>>> On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 06:33:58 -0400
>>> fsmithred  wrote:
>>>   
 On 10/22/2017 05:18 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote:  
> On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 at 16:47:57 -0500
> goli...@dyne.org wrote:
>> We are happy to announce that 'amprolla3', the rewrite of nextime's
>> amprolla by parazyd and Wizzup, is finally up and running and ready
>> to be tested.
>
>   All right, tested:
> 164 packages upgraded,
> 74 installed.
>
>   Kernel went from linux-image-4.9+80+deb9u2-amd64 to
> linux-image-4.12.0-0.bpo.2-amd64, libreoffice went from 5.2.7-1 to
> 5.4.1-1, tor from 0.2.9.11-1 to 0.3.1.7-1, pulseaudio is still out of
> the way and, as far as I'm concerned, everything, including https://,
> works like a charm.   


 Your libreoffice went from ascii to buster and tor went from ascii to
 buster/sid/ceres. Does your sources.list say "testing" instead of
 "ascii"?  
>>>
>>>   No, but I have ascii-backports configured, could that be the reason?
>>>  
>>>
>>>   
>>
>> If it's from backports, there should be a bpo in the version. Other than
>> that, the numbers are the same for ascii-backports and buster. Here's the
>> full list of what I find for libreoffice. (Note: I don't install anything
>> or upgrade with these sources enabled.)
>>
>> $ apt-cache policy libreoffice
>> libreoffice:
>>   Installed: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u7
>>   Candidate: 1:5.4.1-1~bpo9+1
> 
> [...]
> 
>   Sorry I didn't check it myself, but I'm very busy today (SMAU and LinuxDay
> coming next week).  Well yes, they're from backports:
> 
> $ apt-cache policy libreoffice-core tor
> libreoffice-core:
>   Installed: 1:5.4.1-1~bpo9+1
>   Candidate: 1:5.4.1-1~bpo9+1
>   Version table:
>  *** 1:5.4.1-1~bpo9+1 500
> 500 https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-backports/main amd64
> Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>  1:5.2.7-1 500
> 500 https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
> tor:
>   Installed: 0.3.1.7-1~bpo9+1
>   Candidate: 0.3.1.7-1~bpo9+1
>   Version table:
>  *** 0.3.1.7-1~bpo9+1 500
> 500 https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-backports/main amd64
> Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>  0.2.9.12-1 500
> 500 https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-security/main amd64
> Packages 0.2.9.11-1~deb9u1 500
> 500 https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
> 
> 
>   Didn't think about disabling backports before doing the update/upgrade, i
> should have.  Well, even then amprolla3 didn't do anything wrong, to my
> utmost pleasure.  Thank you, guys!
> 

Backports should have a lower priority to prevent this kind of thing from
happening.

100 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ stretch-backports/main amd64
release o=Debian
Backports,a=stretch-backports,n=stretch-backports,l=Debian Backports,c=main

500 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-backports/main amd64
release v=2.0.0,a=testing-backports,n=ascii-backports,l=Devuan,c=main

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 16:03:33 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message 
<20171022140333.rnvntd3gxn454vli@reflex>:

> On Sun, 22 Oct 2017, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> 
> > ..leaving "-t experimental" out while adding backports back in, I
> > now have a credible "1 Upgradeable,
> > linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.3-rt-amd64 version 4.9.30-2+deb9u5~bpo8+1"
> > and still no New packages and a lowered "16 Obsolete and Locally
> > Created Packages", vdev, d1h, apulse, the refracta's, setnet,
> > linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.2-rt-amd64-unsigned, dbus-tests,
> > libjournal-shim and local stuff like companion22, brlcad and 2
> > alien epson printer packs.
> > 
> > ..leaving "-t experimental" out of aptitude's cli while adding
> > experimental back in into the sources list, I now have a more
> > credible "4 Upgradeable", 3 broken (udisks2, libudev (and
> > libudisks2)) and "10 New packages" and a credible "5 Obsolete and
> > Locally Created Packages",
> > linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.2-rt-amd64-unsigned, and local stuff like
> > companion22, brlcad and 2 alien epson printer packs.
> > 
> > ..now adding "-t experimental" back in to aptitude's cli, adds no
> > new mayhem, the "10 New packages" above are db4.8-utils and depends
> > etc. "This has been a closer look!" ;o)  
> 
> to round-up the issue, this was due to a bug in amprolla3, now fixed
> 
> https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla3/commit/22ec2a3634b8eee640a335e8d9f28754509e7024
> 
> thanks everyone for spotting it and to parazyd for recognising it and
> fixing it immediately! I was also confused by the nature of this
> glitch.

..I see the last mirror update on the Debian side was: ...
ftp-master.debian.org 2017-10-22 16:48 305
arnt@d44:~/Taranis$ lynx -dump \
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/project/trace/ |grep _traces 
[ ] [8]_traces 2017-10-22 17:11 72 
8. http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/project/trace/_traces



...so, do we now have the bug fix in effect now at 17:36:38 CEST,
or after our next amprolla3 merge run, say around midnight CEST?


..do we have an /project/trace/_traces style dating other than this?:
arnt@d44:~/Taranis$ lynx -dump http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/
   Index of /
 __

[1]../
[2]devuan/11-Oct-2017 23:31
  -
[3]merged/11-Aug-2017 09:52
  -
[4]amprolla.txt   22-Oct-2017 15:46
6102654
[5]bannedpackages.txt 22-Oct-2017 15:46
   2265
[6]libsystemd.txt 22-Oct-2017 15:46
   9357
[7]oldpackages.txt22-Oct-2017 15:46
  34761
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References

   1. http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/
   2. http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/
   3. http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/
   4. http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/amprolla.txt
   5. http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt
   6. http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/libsystemd.txt
   7. http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/oldpackages.txt



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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Alessandro Selli]

On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 08:22:57 -0400
fsmithred  wrote:

> On 10/22/2017 06:51 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 06:33:58 -0400
>> fsmithred  wrote:
>>   
>>> On 10/22/2017 05:18 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote:  
 On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 at 16:47:57 -0500
 goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> We are happy to announce that 'amprolla3', the rewrite of nextime's
> amprolla by parazyd and Wizzup, is finally up and running and ready
> to be tested.

   All right, tested:
 164 packages upgraded,
 74 installed.

   Kernel went from linux-image-4.9+80+deb9u2-amd64 to
 linux-image-4.12.0-0.bpo.2-amd64, libreoffice went from 5.2.7-1 to
 5.4.1-1, tor from 0.2.9.11-1 to 0.3.1.7-1, pulseaudio is still out of
 the way and, as far as I'm concerned, everything, including https://,
 works like a charm.   
>>>
>>>
>>> Your libreoffice went from ascii to buster and tor went from ascii to
>>> buster/sid/ceres. Does your sources.list say "testing" instead of
>>> "ascii"?  
>> 
>>   No, but I have ascii-backports configured, could that be the reason?
>>  
>> 
>>   
>
> If it's from backports, there should be a bpo in the version. Other than
> that, the numbers are the same for ascii-backports and buster. Here's the
> full list of what I find for libreoffice. (Note: I don't install anything
> or upgrade with these sources enabled.)
>
> $ apt-cache policy libreoffice
> libreoffice:
>   Installed: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u7
>   Candidate: 1:5.4.1-1~bpo9+1

[...]

  Sorry I didn't check it myself, but I'm very busy today (SMAU and LinuxDay
coming next week).  Well yes, they're from backports:

$ apt-cache policy libreoffice-core tor
libreoffice-core:
  Installed: 1:5.4.1-1~bpo9+1
  Candidate: 1:5.4.1-1~bpo9+1
  Version table:
 *** 1:5.4.1-1~bpo9+1 500
500 https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-backports/main amd64
Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 1:5.2.7-1 500
500 https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
tor:
  Installed: 0.3.1.7-1~bpo9+1
  Candidate: 0.3.1.7-1~bpo9+1
  Version table:
 *** 0.3.1.7-1~bpo9+1 500
500 https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-backports/main amd64
Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 0.2.9.12-1 500
500 https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-security/main amd64
Packages 0.2.9.11-1~deb9u1 500
500 https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages


  Didn't think about disabling backports before doing the update/upgrade, i
should have.  Well, even then amprolla3 didn't do anything wrong, to my
utmost pleasure.  Thank you, guys!

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Jaromil]

On Sun, 22 Oct 2017, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

> ..leaving "-t experimental" out while adding backports back in, I now 
> have a credible "1 Upgradeable, linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.3-rt-amd64
> version 4.9.30-2+deb9u5~bpo8+1" and still no New packages and a 
> lowered "16 Obsolete and Locally Created Packages", vdev, d1h, apulse,
> the refracta's, setnet, linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.2-rt-amd64-unsigned,
> dbus-tests, libjournal-shim and local stuff like companion22, brlcad 
> and 2 alien epson printer packs.
> 
> ..leaving "-t experimental" out of aptitude's cli while adding
> experimental back in into the sources list, I now have a more credible
> "4 Upgradeable", 3 broken (udisks2, libudev (and libudisks2)) and 
> "10 New packages" and a credible "5 Obsolete and Locally Created
> Packages", linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.2-rt-amd64-unsigned, and local 
> stuff like companion22, brlcad and 2 alien epson printer packs.
> 
> ..now adding "-t experimental" back in to aptitude's cli, adds no new
> mayhem, the "10 New packages" above are db4.8-utils and depends etc.
> "This has been a closer look!" ;o)

to round-up the issue, this was due to a bug in amprolla3, now fixed

https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla3/commit/22ec2a3634b8eee640a335e8d9f28754509e7024

thanks everyone for spotting it and to parazyd for recognising it and
fixing it immediately! I was also confused by the nature of this
glitch.


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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 14:12:51 +0200, Arnt wrote in message 
<20171022141252.7d06269c@d44>:

> On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:14:24 +0200, Arnt wrote in message 
> <20171022121424.4755f92c@d44>:
> 
> > On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:28:21 +0900, Olaf wrote in message 
> > <87vaj7etwv@member.fsf.org>:
> >   
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Arnt Karlsen writes:
> > > 
> > > > On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 20:37:35 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message
> > > > <20171021193735.gg4...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
> > > >  
> > > >> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 08:48:57PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> [cut]
> > > >>  
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > We have been testing amprolla3 for more than two months
> > > >> > > now, on dozens machines, and it has been working like a
> > > >> > > charm.  
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ..ok, with jessie + jessie-* + experimental too?
> > > >> >  
> > > >>
> > > >> Yes. You don't need to use both packages.devuan.org and
> > > >> pkgmaster.devuan.org. The former serves the packages merged by
> > > >> the original amprolla. The latter served the repos merged by
> > > >> amprolla3. So choose one of the two.  
> > > >
> > > > ..done, 613 upgradeable, Obsolete & local dropped to 5 from 6k
> > > > and Installed rose by 6k to 7380, so I guess we're headed the
> > > > right way, I have e.g. pulseaudio wanting to upgrade from our
> > > > 5.0-13+devuan2 to I suspect Debian's systemd'ed 7.1.2~bpo8+1,
> > > > what else to look out for?  
> > > 
> > > I found the same.  I'm on jessie with security, updates and
> > > backports enabled.  It turned out that all my upgradable packages
> > > are from the backports suite.  Slightly worrying is that a number
> > > of these are for devuan-ized packages.  The 'pulseaudio' package
> > > you mentioned is one. Another that is probably trouble was
> > > 'reportbug'.  The other (source) packages I found were
> > > bash-completions and cups.
> > > 
> > > For non-devuan-ized packages, udev and rsyslog might be
> > > problematic.
> > > 
> > > Hope this helps,
> > 
> > ..it does... dropping backports, the 613 upgradeables drops to 60,
> > mostly kde's with fishy +deb8uX tails, sudo, dwww and linux-*-3.16,
> > while linux-*-4.9, forensic-all et al, gnash, klash etc winds up as
> > Obsolete and Locally Created Packages hiking it to 72 from 5, sooo, 
> > like Seth Meyers puts it: It's time for a closer look!  
> 
> ..dropping " -t experimental " from aptitude's cli will let it show 
> it's built package lists, showing no Upgradeable and no New packages
> and "83 bsolete and Locally Created Packages."

..leaving "-t experimental" out while adding backports back in, I now 
have a credible "1 Upgradeable, linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.3-rt-amd64
version 4.9.30-2+deb9u5~bpo8+1" and still no New packages and a 
lowered "16 Obsolete and Locally Created Packages", vdev, d1h, apulse,
the refracta's, setnet, linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.2-rt-amd64-unsigned,
dbus-tests, libjournal-shim and local stuff like companion22, brlcad 
and 2 alien epson printer packs.

..leaving "-t experimental" out of aptitude's cli while adding
experimental back in into the sources list, I now have a more credible
"4 Upgradeable", 3 broken (udisks2, libudev (and libudisks2)) and 
"10 New packages" and a credible "5 Obsolete and Locally Created
Packages", linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.2-rt-amd64-unsigned, and local 
stuff like companion22, brlcad and 2 alien epson printer packs.

..now adding "-t experimental" back in to aptitude's cli, adds no new
mayhem, the "10 New packages" above are db4.8-utils and depends etc.
"This has been a closer look!" ;o)


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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[fsmithred]

On 10/22/2017 06:51 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 06:33:58 -0400
> fsmithred  wrote:
> 
>> On 10/22/2017 05:18 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>>> On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 at 16:47:57 -0500
>>> goli...@dyne.org wrote:  
 We are happy to announce that 'amprolla3', the rewrite of nextime's
 amprolla by parazyd and Wizzup, is finally up and running and ready
 to be tested.  
>>>
>>>   All right, tested:
>>> 164 packages upgraded,
>>> 74 installed.
>>>
>>>   Kernel went from linux-image-4.9+80+deb9u2-amd64 to
>>> linux-image-4.12.0-0.bpo.2-amd64, libreoffice went from 5.2.7-1 to
>>> 5.4.1-1, tor from 0.2.9.11-1 to 0.3.1.7-1, pulseaudio is still out of the
>>> way and, as far as I'm concerned, everything, including https://, works
>>> like a charm. 
>>
>>
>> Your libreoffice went from ascii to buster and tor went from ascii to
>> buster/sid/ceres. Does your sources.list say "testing" instead of "ascii"?
> 
>   No, but I have ascii-backports configured, could that be the reason?
>  
> 
> 

If it's from backports, there should be a bpo in the version. Other than
that, the numbers are the same for ascii-backports and buster. Here's the
full list of what I find for libreoffice. (Note: I don't install anything
or upgrade with these sources enabled.)

$ apt-cache policy libreoffice
libreoffice:
  Installed: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u7
  Candidate: 1:5.4.1-1~bpo9+1
  Version table:
 1:5.4.2-3 0
100 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ceres/main amd64 Packages
 10 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
 1:5.4.1-1 0
 10 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ buster/main amd64 Packages
 1:5.4.1-1~bpo9+1 0
500 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-backports/main amd64
Packages
100 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ stretch-backports/main
amd64 Packages
 1:5.2.7-1 0
100 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii/main amd64 Packages
 10 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ stretch/main amd64 Packages
 1:5.2.7-1~bpo8+1 0
200 http://packages.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-backports/main amd64
Packages
 *** 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u7 0
500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie/main amd64 Packages
500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-security/main
amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:14:24 +0200, Arnt wrote in message 
<20171022121424.4755f92c@d44>:

> On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:28:21 +0900, Olaf wrote in message 
> <87vaj7etwv@member.fsf.org>:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Arnt Karlsen writes:
> >   
> > > On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 20:37:35 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message
> > > <20171021193735.gg4...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
> > >
> > >> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 08:48:57PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > >>
> > >> [cut]
> > >>
> > >> > >
> > >> > > We have been testing amprolla3 for more than two months now,
> > >> > > on dozens machines, and it has been working like a charm.
> > >> >
> > >> > ..ok, with jessie + jessie-* + experimental too?
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Yes. You don't need to use both packages.devuan.org and
> > >> pkgmaster.devuan.org. The former serves the packages merged by
> > >> the original amprolla. The latter served the repos merged by
> > >> amprolla3. So choose one of the two.
> > >
> > > ..done, 613 upgradeable, Obsolete & local dropped to 5 from 6k
> > > and Installed rose by 6k to 7380, so I guess we're headed the
> > > right way, I have e.g. pulseaudio wanting to upgrade from our
> > > 5.0-13+devuan2 to I suspect Debian's systemd'ed 7.1.2~bpo8+1,
> > > what else to look out for?
> > 
> > I found the same.  I'm on jessie with security, updates and
> > backports enabled.  It turned out that all my upgradable packages
> > are from the backports suite.  Slightly worrying is that a number
> > of these are for devuan-ized packages.  The 'pulseaudio' package
> > you mentioned is one. Another that is probably trouble was
> > 'reportbug'.  The other (source) packages I found were
> > bash-completions and cups.
> > 
> > For non-devuan-ized packages, udev and rsyslog might be problematic.
> > 
> > Hope this helps,  
> 
> ..it does... dropping backports, the 613 upgradeables drops to 60,
> mostly kde's with fishy +deb8uX tails, sudo, dwww and linux-*-3.16,
> while linux-*-4.9, forensic-all et al, gnash, klash etc winds up as
> Obsolete and Locally Created Packages hiking it to 72 from 5, sooo, 
> like Seth Meyers puts it: It's time for a closer look!

..dropping " -t experimental " from aptitude's cli will let it show 
it's built package lists, showing no Upgradeable and no New packages
and "83 bsolete and Locally Created Packages."

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Alessandro Selli]

On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 06:33:58 -0400
fsmithred  wrote:

> On 10/22/2017 05:18 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 at 16:47:57 -0500
>> goli...@dyne.org wrote:  
>>> We are happy to announce that 'amprolla3', the rewrite of nextime's
>>> amprolla by parazyd and Wizzup, is finally up and running and ready
>>> to be tested.  
>> 
>>   All right, tested:
>> 164 packages upgraded,
>> 74 installed.
>> 
>>   Kernel went from linux-image-4.9+80+deb9u2-amd64 to
>> linux-image-4.12.0-0.bpo.2-amd64, libreoffice went from 5.2.7-1 to
>> 5.4.1-1, tor from 0.2.9.11-1 to 0.3.1.7-1, pulseaudio is still out of the
>> way and, as far as I'm concerned, everything, including https://, works
>> like a charm. 
>
>
> Your libreoffice went from ascii to buster and tor went from ascii to
> buster/sid/ceres. Does your sources.list say "testing" instead of "ascii"?

  No, but I have ascii-backports configured, could that be the reason?
 


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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[fsmithred]

On 10/22/2017 05:18 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 at 16:47:57 -0500
> goli...@dyne.org wrote:
>> We are happy to announce that 'amprolla3', the rewrite of nextime's
>> amprolla by parazyd and Wizzup, is finally up and running and ready
>> to be tested.
> 
>   All right, tested:
> 164 packages upgraded,
> 74 installed.
> 
>   Kernel went from linux-image-4.9+80+deb9u2-amd64 to
> linux-image-4.12.0-0.bpo.2-amd64, libreoffice went from 5.2.7-1 to 5.4.1-1,
> tor from 0.2.9.11-1 to 0.3.1.7-1, pulseaudio is still out of the way and, as
> far as I'm concerned, everything, including https://, works like a charm.
> 


Your libreoffice went from ascii to buster and tor went from ascii to
buster/sid/ceres. Does your sources.list say "testing" instead of "ascii"?


Version tables (for reference)

libreoffice:
1:5.4.1-1 0
 10 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ buster/main amd64 Packages
1:5.2.7-1 0
100 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii/main amd64 Packages
 10 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ stretch/main amd64 Packages

tor:
0.3.1.7-1 0
100 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ceres/main amd64 Packages
 10 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ buster/main amd64 Packages
 10 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
0.2.9.11-1~deb9u1 0
100 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii/main amd64 Packages
 10 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ stretch/main amd64 Packages
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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:28:21 +0900, Olaf wrote in message 
<87vaj7etwv@member.fsf.org>:

> Hi,
> 
> Arnt Karlsen writes:
> 
> > On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 20:37:35 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message
> > <20171021193735.gg4...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
> >  
> >> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 08:48:57PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> >>
> >> [cut]
> >>  
> >> > >
> >> > > We have been testing amprolla3 for more than two months now, on
> >> > > dozens machines, and it has been working like a charm.  
> >> >
> >> > ..ok, with jessie + jessie-* + experimental too?
> >> >  
> >>
> >> Yes. You don't need to use both packages.devuan.org and
> >> pkgmaster.devuan.org. The former serves the packages merged by the
> >> original amprolla. The latter served the repos merged by
> >> amprolla3. So choose one of the two.  
> >
> > ..done, 613 upgradeable, Obsolete & local dropped to 5 from 6k
> > and Installed rose by 6k to 7380, so I guess we're headed the
> > right way, I have e.g. pulseaudio wanting to upgrade from our
> > 5.0-13+devuan2 to I suspect Debian's systemd'ed 7.1.2~bpo8+1,
> > what else to look out for?  
> 
> I found the same.  I'm on jessie with security, updates and backports
> enabled.  It turned out that all my upgradable packages are from the
> backports suite.  Slightly worrying is that a number of these are for
> devuan-ized packages.  The 'pulseaudio' package you mentioned is one.
> Another that is probably trouble was 'reportbug'.  The other (source)
> packages I found were bash-completions and cups.
> 
> For non-devuan-ized packages, udev and rsyslog might be problematic.
> 
> Hope this helps,

..it does... dropping backports, the 613 upgradeables drops to 60,
mostly kde's with fishy +deb8uX tails, sudo, dwww and linux-*-3.16,
while linux-*-4.9, forensic-all et al, gnash, klash etc winds up as
Obsolete and Locally Created Packages hiking it to 72 from 5, sooo, 
like Seth Meyers puts it: It's time for a closer look!


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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Lars Noodén]

On 10/22/2017 12:39 PM, Jaromil wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Oct 2017, Lars Noodén wrote:
>> Who can update it fix the wording and the link and how did it get closed
>> off?
> 
> I can, its in my TODO and will be done soon.

Thanks.

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Jaromil]

hi all

out of Arnt's and Olaf testing and reporting, its made clear that we
need to improveme on amprolla3: we need a "warnlist" for packages that
are overrinding devuan's forked packages. IMHO when debian updates a
package forked by devuan in any of the available suites, the warnlist
would file a bug on bugs.devuan.org and block the package from merging

I believe this will be easy to implement for parazyd and wizzup?

also it is now useful to move over to our infrastructure the devuan
package explorer web frontend made by firegarden, which was previewed
a while ago off their servers.


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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Jaromil]

On Sat, 21 Oct 2017, Lars Noodén wrote:
> Who can update it fix the wording and the link and how did it get closed
> off?

I can, its in my TODO and will be done soon.

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Alessandro Selli]

On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 at 16:47:57 -0500
goli...@dyne.org wrote:

> Dear dev1rs,

  Are these some sort of devs-running-daemon devi1s?  :-)

> We are happy to announce that 'amprolla3', the rewrite of nextime's
> amprolla by parazyd and Wizzup, is finally up and running and ready
> to be tested.

  All right, tested:
164 packages upgraded,
74 installed.

  Kernel went from linux-image-4.9+80+deb9u2-amd64 to
linux-image-4.12.0-0.bpo.2-amd64, libreoffice went from 5.2.7-1 to 5.4.1-1,
tor from 0.2.9.11-1 to 0.3.1.7-1, pulseaudio is still out of the way and, as
far as I'm concerned, everything, including https://, works like a charm.

  Plus:

Yesterday:
$ apt-file list bash
E: The cache is empty. You need to run "apt update" first.

Today:
$ apt-file list bash
bash: /bin/bash
bash: /bin/rbash
bash: /etc/bash.bashrc
bash: /etc/skel/.bash_logout
bash: /etc/skel/.bashrc
bash: /etc/skel/.profile
bash: /usr/bin/bashbug
bash: /usr/bin/clear_console
bash: /usr/share/doc/bash/CHANGES.gz
bash: /usr/share/doc/bash/COMPAT.gz
bash: /usr/share/doc/bash/INTRO.gz
bash: /usr/share/doc/bash/NEWS.gz
bash: /usr/share/doc/bash/POSIX.gz
[...]


  Thank you!


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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Alberto Zuin - Liste]

Hi,

Testing on my workstation + some servers: it works like a charm, thank 
you for your effort in improving our distro!


Alberto


On 20/10/17 22:47, goli...@dyne.org wrote:

Dear dev1rs,

We are happy to announce that 'amprolla3', the rewrite of nextime's
amprolla by parazyd and Wizzup, is finally up and running and ready
to be tested.

The code can be found at:

https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla3

The rewrite increases the frequency of merges (now performed
every few minutes, rather than once a day), meaning that new packages,
updates, and upgrades will be available almost immediately to Devuan
users.

We have set up a second host which will serve Devuan packages as
merged by the new amprolla3. It is now available at
pkgmaster.devuan.org and currently serves Devuan Jessie, Devuan Ascii,
and Devuan Ceres, including all the *-security and *-updates sections.
The host, pkgmaster.devuan.org, also supports https.

If you want to help testing the new amprolla3, you just need to:

- replace "auto.mirror.devuan.org" with "pkgmaster.devuan.org" in
  your /etc/apt/sources.list
- # apt-get update
- # apt-get install devuan-keyring

Then just use it as you did with auto.mirror.devuan.org. Please
report any bugs on https://bugs.devuan.org, as usual.

The current auto.mirror.devuan.org host remains up and running and
perfectly usable. Once the testing of amprolla3 is complete, the
transition to the new system should be seamless and transparent to
all users.

The new amprolla3 also provides support for the currently missing
Contents*.gz files (solving the apt-file bug). The feature will be
made available in the coming couple of days.

The Dev1Devs
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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Olaf Meeuwissen]

Hi,

Arnt Karlsen writes:

> On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 20:37:35 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message
> <20171021193735.gg4...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
>
>> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 08:48:57PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>>
>> [cut]
>>
>> > >
>> > > We have been testing amprolla3 for more than two months now, on
>> > > dozens machines, and it has been working like a charm.
>> >
>> > ..ok, with jessie + jessie-* + experimental too?
>> >
>>
>> Yes. You don't need to use both packages.devuan.org and
>> pkgmaster.devuan.org. The former serves the packages merged by the
>> original amprolla. The latter served the repos merged by amprolla3. So
>> choose one of the two.
>
> ..done, 613 upgradeable, Obsolete & local dropped to 5 from 6k
> and Installed rose by 6k to 7380, so I guess we're headed the
> right way, I have e.g. pulseaudio wanting to upgrade from our
> 5.0-13+devuan2 to I suspect Debian's systemd'ed 7.1.2~bpo8+1,
> what else to look out for?

I found the same.  I'm on jessie with security, updates and backports
enabled.  It turned out that all my upgradable packages are from the
backports suite.  Slightly worrying is that a number of these are for
devuan-ized packages.  The 'pulseaudio' package you mentioned is one.
Another that is probably trouble was 'reportbug'.  The other (source)
packages I found were bash-completions and cups.

For non-devuan-ized packages, udev and rsyslog might be problematic.

Hope this helps,
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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 20:37:35 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message 
<20171021193735.gg4...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:

> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 08:48:57PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> 
> [cut]
> 
> > > 
> > > We have been testing amprolla3 for more than two months now, on
> > > dozens machines, and it has been working like a charm.   
> > 
> > ..ok, with jessie + jessie-* + experimental too?
> >   
> 
> Yes. You don't need to use both packages.devuan.org and
> pkgmaster.devuan.org. The former serves the packages merged by the
> original amprolla. The latter served the repos merged by amprolla3. So
> choose one of the two.

..done, 613 upgradeable, Obsolete & local dropped to 5 from 6k
and Installed rose by 6k to 7380, so I guess we're headed the 
right way, I have e.g. pulseaudio wanting to upgrade from our
5.0-13+devuan2 to I suspect Debian's systemd'ed 7.1.2~bpo8+1,
what else to look out for?


..still no changelog viewing in aptitude: 
"You can only view changelogs of official Debian packages.
  [ Ok ]"



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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[KatolaZ]

On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 08:48:57PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

[cut]

> > 
> > We have been testing amprolla3 for more than two months now, on dozens
> > machines, and it has been working like a charm. 
> 
> ..ok, with jessie + jessie-* + experimental too?
> 

Yes. You don't need to use both packages.devuan.org and
pkgmaster.devuan.org. The former serves the packages merged by the
original amprolla. The latter served the repos merged by amprolla3. So
choose one of the two.

HTH

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 17:47:50 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message 
<20171021164750.gf4...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:

> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 06:31:50PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> 
> [cut]
> 
> > 
> > ..did all this (except with aptitude), should I then go from 4 to 
> > 615 upgradeable packages???
> > 
> > ..I did the git clone dance first.  
> > Does amprolla3 know that "Debian Jessie == Debian old-stable", 
> > and that "Debian stable == Debian Stretch", and that 
> > "Devuan Jessie != Debian Jessie", so we pick the right
> > "Debian Jessie == Debian old-stable" packages into our 
> > /Merged/ tree and not the "Debian stable == Debian Stretch"???
> > 
> > ..bottom line: Did I pick up Debian Stretch packages from amprolla3?
> > No worries, I'll do the aptitude upgrade dance only after we know
> > what's going on here. ;o)
> >  
> 
> I am not sure I understand what you mean, but you must use "jessie",
> "ascii", or "ceres" in your sources.list, and not "stable", "testing",
> "unstable", if that is your question. 

..nope, I asked about amprolla3's understanding of these names.
Do we (Devuan) abandon the "stable", "testing" and "unstable" names?

..but I agree with your answer, did I miss anything here?:
root@d44:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
# Devuan repositories
deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie main contrib non-free
deb-src http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie main contrib non-free

# /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-security.list
deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main contrib
non-free 
deb-src http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main contrib
non-free

# /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-updates.list
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged jessie-updates main
contrib non-free 
deb-src http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged jessie-updates main
contrib non-free

# /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-proposed-updates.list
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged jessie-proposed-updates main
contrib non-free deb-src http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged
jessie-proposed-updates main contrib non-free

# /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-backports.list
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main
contrib non-free 
deb-src http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main
contrib non-free

# /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-experimental.list
# 
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan experimental main contrib
non-free # 
deb-src http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan experimental main contrib
non-free

# https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DevuanInstall
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian
jessie main 
deb-src
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian
jessie main 
deb
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian
jessie main 
deb-src
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian
jessie main


> You probably get 615 packages to upgrade since ascii-upgrades was
> finally merged by amprolla3.

..ok, did something similar happen with the jessie-* ?
(jessie-security, jessie-updates, jessie-proposed-updates,
jessie-backports)

..or could it be my experimental lines?

> amprolla3 is functionally equivalent to the traditional amprolla. So
> if you specify "jessie", you will get Jessie packages, not Stretch
> ones.

..ok, so you must have adressed my 2nd question 
on amprolla3's understanding of facts like 
"Debian Jessie == Debian old-stable" and 
"Debian stable == Debian Stretch", and 
"Devuan Jessie != Debian Jessie" then. :o)

> If you are on Devuan "ascii", you will get Ascii packages. Those
> packages that have been forked by Devuan will come from Devuan, and
> those that have not been touched will come from Debian. As in the
> original amprolla.
> 
> As usual, you should never mix debian and devuan repos. If you do mix
> them, you are on your own, and must not blame amprolla or devuan :)
> 
> We have been testing amprolla3 for more than two months now, on dozens
> machines, and it has been working like a charm. 

..ok, with jessie + jessie-* + experimental too?

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[KatolaZ]

On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 06:31:50PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

[cut]

> 
> ..did all this (except with aptitude), should I then go from 4 to 
> 615 upgradeable packages???
> 
> ..I did the git clone dance first.  
> Does amprolla3 know that "Debian Jessie == Debian old-stable", 
> and that "Debian stable == Debian Stretch", and that 
> "Devuan Jessie != Debian Jessie", so we pick the right
> "Debian Jessie == Debian old-stable" packages into our 
> /Merged/ tree and not the "Debian stable == Debian Stretch"???
> 
> ..bottom line: Did I pick up Debian Stretch packages from amprolla3?
> No worries, I'll do the aptitude upgrade dance only after we know
> what's going on here. ;o)
>

I am not sure I understand what you mean, but you must use "jessie",
"ascii", or "ceres" in your sources.list, and not "stable", "testing",
"unstable", if that is your question. You probably get 615 packages to
upgrade since ascii-upgrades was finally merged by amprolla3.

amprolla3 is functionally equivalent to the traditional amprolla. So
if you specify "jessie", you will get Jessie packages, not Stretch
ones. If you are on Devuan "ascii", you will get Ascii packages. Those
packages that have been forked by Devuan will come from Devuan, and
those that have not been touched will come from Debian. As in the
original amprolla.

As usual, you should never mix debian and devuan repos. If you do mix
them, you are on your own, and must not blame amprolla or devuan :)

We have been testing amprolla3 for more than two months now, on dozens
machines, and it has been working like a charm. 

HND

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 16:47:57 -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote in message 
:

> If you want to help testing the new amprolla3, you just need to:
> 
> - replace "auto.mirror.devuan.org" with "pkgmaster.devuan.org" in
>your /etc/apt/sources.list
> - # apt-get update
> - # apt-get install devuan-keyring

..did all this (except with aptitude), should I then go from 4 to 
615 upgradeable packages???

..I did the git clone dance first.  
Does amprolla3 know that "Debian Jessie == Debian old-stable", 
and that "Debian stable == Debian Stretch", and that 
"Devuan Jessie != Debian Jessie", so we pick the right
"Debian Jessie == Debian old-stable" packages into our 
/Merged/ tree and not the "Debian stable == Debian Stretch"???

..bottom line: Did I pick up Debian Stretch packages from amprolla3?
No worries, I'll do the aptitude upgrade dance only after we know
what's going on here. ;o)

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[KatolaZ]

On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 06:31:26PM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote:
> On 10/21/2017 06:27 PM, KatolaZ wrote:
> [snip]
> 
> > We could probably include an explicit pointer to the public lurker
> > archives in the devuan.org homepage. @golinux might want to have a
> > look at that, perhaps.
> 
> Yes, that would be good, too.  But there should be a way to get there
> from "here".  Maybe the private link can have the public link below it
> in the message footer and it can be mentioned on the mailing list info
> page.  As it currently stands, you can't get there from here.
> 

Yes, we could *add* the public lurker link in the ML signatire as
well, without removing the private one. That's a good suggestion :)

Thanks

KatolaZ

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Lars Noodén]

On 10/21/2017 06:27 PM, KatolaZ wrote:
[snip]

> We could probably include an explicit pointer to the public lurker
> archives in the devuan.org homepage. @golinux might want to have a
> look at that, perhaps.

Yes, that would be good, too.  But there should be a way to get there
from "here".  Maybe the private link can have the public link below it
in the message footer and it can be mentioned on the mailing list info
page.  As it currently stands, you can't get there from here.

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[KatolaZ]

On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 09:06:49AM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote:

[cut]

> 
> 
> KatolaZ . . . I tried to explain yesterday that the link to the archives on
> that page is non-functional - I get a 404 (it used to work).  It was
> discussed at the last meet and it's on jaromil's todo list.  I have been
> addressing this issue for weeks via pm, on various lists etc. and at the
> meet but no action.  I am getting tired of repeating myself. If you have
> access to mailman can you please fix it.
>

That must be fixed, but not removed from the footers. Will try to push
on that direction :)

HND

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[KatolaZ]

On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 12:04:21PM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote:
> On 10/21/2017 11:56 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
> [snip]> and is public. The original mailman archive is visible only to
> > subscribed members, and rightly so. There is nothing to fix there.
> [snip]
> 
> The list software seems to point to the wrong page then:
> 
> > Dng mailing list
> > Dng@lists.dyne.org
> > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
> 
> The link appended by the list software should be this one instead:
> 
> https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/dng.en.html

No, it shouldn't, since the link shown is the correct link for the
list subscribers.

We could probably include an explicit pointer to the public lurker
archives in the devuan.org homepage. @golinux might want to have a
look at that, perhaps.

HND

KatolaZ

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[golinux]

On 2017-10-21 03:56, KatolaZ wrote:

On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 11:39:13AM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote:

On 10/21/2017 11:07 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
[snip]
> google: dng lurker

I look at the link added by the list software to the tail end of the
message ...

[snip]
> ___
> Dng mailing list
> Dng@lists.dyne.org
> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

... and see that it says:

"To see the collection of prior postings to the list,
visit the Dng Archives. (The current archive is only
available to the list members.) "

And the link in that sentence is different:

https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/dng/

Who can update it fix the wording and the link and how did it get 
closed

off?




Lars, the archives of this ML have always been publicly available
through lurker, who takes care of removing email addresses and other
clutter (such as signatures) from the emails.

The lurker archive is available at:

  https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/dng.en.html

and is public. The original mailman archive is visible only to
subscribed members, and rightly so. There is nothing to fix there.

My2Cents

KatolaZ

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KatolaZ . . . I tried to explain yesterday that the link to the archives 
on that page is non-functional - I get a 404 (it used to work).  It was 
discussed at the last meet and it's on jaromil's todo list.  I have been 
addressing this issue for weeks via pm, on various lists etc. and at the 
meet but no action.  I am getting tired of repeating myself. If you have 
access to mailman can you please fix it.


golinux


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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[golinux]

On 2017-10-21 02:27, Lars Noodén wrote:

On 10/21/2017 12:47 AM, goli...@dyne.org wrote:

Dear dev1rs,

We are happy to announce that 'amprolla3', the rewrite of nextime's
amprolla by parazyd and Wizzup, is finally up and running and ready
to be tested.

The code can be found at:

https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla3

[snip]

Thanks!

Is there a short (or long) blog entry about amprolla3 anywhere?

I'd like to be able to link to the announcement but the list archives
are not available to people that aren't subscribed.  That means that
those that can view the archive probably already read your message.

/Lars
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Of course the dng archives are available to everyone.  It's just that 
the link on the mailman subscription page is broken and no one who can 
fix it has done so yet.  This is the view that I prefer:


https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/mindex/d...@20380101.00..en.html

The announcement is also available here: 
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1671


golinux


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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Lars Noodén]

On 10/21/2017 11:56 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
[snip]> and is public. The original mailman archive is visible only to
> subscribed members, and rightly so. There is nothing to fix there.
[snip]

The list software seems to point to the wrong page then:

> Dng mailing list
> Dng@lists.dyne.org
> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

The link appended by the list software should be this one instead:

https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/dng.en.html

/Lars


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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[KatolaZ]

On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 11:39:13AM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote:
> On 10/21/2017 11:07 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
> [snip]
> > google: dng lurker
> 
> I look at the link added by the list software to the tail end of the
> message ...
> 
> [snip]
> > ___
> > Dng mailing list
> > Dng@lists.dyne.org
> > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
> 
> ... and see that it says:
> 
>   "To see the collection of prior postings to the list,
>   visit the Dng Archives. (The current archive is only
>   available to the list members.) "
> 
> And the link in that sentence is different:
> 
>   https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/dng/
> 
> Who can update it fix the wording and the link and how did it get closed
> off?
> 


Lars, the archives of this ML have always been publicly available
through lurker, who takes care of removing email addresses and other
clutter (such as signatures) from the emails.

The lurker archive is available at:

  https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/dng.en.html

and is public. The original mailman archive is visible only to
subscribed members, and rightly so. There is nothing to fix there.

My2Cents

KatolaZ

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Lars Noodén]

On 10/21/2017 11:07 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
[snip]
> google: dng lurker

I look at the link added by the list software to the tail end of the
message ...

[snip]
> ___
> Dng mailing list
> Dng@lists.dyne.org
> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

... and see that it says:

"To see the collection of prior postings to the list,
visit the Dng Archives. (The current archive is only
available to the list members.) "

And the link in that sentence is different:

https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/dng/

Who can update it fix the wording and the link and how did it get closed
off?

/Lars
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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[KatolaZ]

On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 10:27:30AM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote:
> On 10/21/2017 12:47 AM, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> > Dear dev1rs,
> > 
> > We are happy to announce that 'amprolla3', the rewrite of nextime's
> > amprolla by parazyd and Wizzup, is finally up and running and ready
> > to be tested.
> > 
> > The code can be found at:
> > 
> > https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla3
> [snip]
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Is there a short (or long) blog entry about amprolla3 anywhere?
> 
> I'd like to be able to link to the announcement but the list archives
> are not available to people that aren't subscribed.  That means that
> those that can view the archive probably already read your message.
> 

The archives of this ML have always been OPEN. 

google: dng lurker

1st result: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/dng.en.html

HND

KatolaZ

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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[Lars Noodén]

On 10/21/2017 12:47 AM, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> Dear dev1rs,
> 
> We are happy to announce that 'amprolla3', the rewrite of nextime's
> amprolla by parazyd and Wizzup, is finally up and running and ready
> to be tested.
> 
> The code can be found at:
> 
> https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla3
[snip]

Thanks!

Is there a short (or long) blog entry about amprolla3 anywhere?

I'd like to be able to link to the announcement but the list archives
are not available to people that aren't subscribed.  That means that
those that can view the archive probably already read your message.

/Lars
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Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[aitor_czr]

On 10/20/2017 11:47 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote:

Dear dev1rs,

We are happy to announce that 'amprolla3', the rewrite of nextime's
amprolla by parazyd and Wizzup, is finally up and running and ready
to be tested. 


Hurray!!

The DevJuanBoy


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[DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

[golinux]

Dear dev1rs,

We are happy to announce that 'amprolla3', the rewrite of nextime's
amprolla by parazyd and Wizzup, is finally up and running and ready
to be tested.

The code can be found at:

https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla3

The rewrite increases the frequency of merges (now performed
every few minutes, rather than once a day), meaning that new packages,
updates, and upgrades will be available almost immediately to Devuan
users.

We have set up a second host which will serve Devuan packages as
merged by the new amprolla3. It is now available at
pkgmaster.devuan.org and currently serves Devuan Jessie, Devuan Ascii,
and Devuan Ceres, including all the *-security and *-updates sections.
The host, pkgmaster.devuan.org, also supports https.

If you want to help testing the new amprolla3, you just need to:

- replace "auto.mirror.devuan.org" with "pkgmaster.devuan.org" in
  your /etc/apt/sources.list
- # apt-get update
- # apt-get install devuan-keyring

Then just use it as you did with auto.mirror.devuan.org. Please
report any bugs on https://bugs.devuan.org, as usual.

The current auto.mirror.devuan.org host remains up and running and
perfectly usable. Once the testing of amprolla3 is complete, the
transition to the new system should be seamless and transparent to
all users.

The new amprolla3 also provides support for the currently missing
Contents*.gz files (solving the apt-file bug). The feature will be
made available in the coming couple of days.

The Dev1Devs
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