Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed? dropin replacement

2020-02-23 Thread Tito via Dng
On 2/23/20 1:54 PM, Aitor wrote: Hi, On 23/2/20 13:17, Aitor wrote: The binary won't be suid, but rather it'll receive the root password through the mentioned unix socket using internally (sudo | su) afterwards. As simple as that: system( "echo | sudo -S "); I tested my first draft and

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed? dropin replacement

2020-02-23 Thread Tito via Dng
On 2/23/20 12:34 PM, Aitor wrote: Hi Steve, On 21/2/20 21:57, Steve Litt wrote: Will it work even if I'm not using lxqt? Does it stand alone? SteveT I've just started developing a replacement for gksu in gtk2 following the same method used in simple-netaid, that is: a suid binary

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed? dropin replacement

2020-02-23 Thread Tito via Dng
On 2/23/20 4:22 PM, Aitor wrote: Hi Tito, On 23/2/20 14:15, Tito via Dng wrote: On 2/23/20 1:54 PM, Aitor wrote: Hi, On 23/2/20 13:17, Aitor wrote: The binary won't be suid, but rather it'll receive the root password through the mentioned unix socket using internally (sudo | su

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

2020-02-25 Thread Tito via Dng
On 2/25/20 4:40 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: Hi! Anno domini 2020 Tue, 25 Feb 16:29:58 +0100 al3xu5 / dotcommon scripsit: Hi all I am using Devuan (2.1) + MATE DE since 08/2016... Now I wish to change DE but I am in doubt: XFCE or LXDE or LXQt??? Please, based on your experience and

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed?

2020-02-24 Thread Tito via Dng
On 2/24/20 1:21 PM, Daniel Abrecht via Dng wrote: Hi I would like to add my point of view to the polkit debate. I don't think polkit is bad or unnecessary, it simply has a completely different usecase/scope than sudo has. sudo is for starting a process as an other user provided some

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed?

2020-02-14 Thread Tito via Dng
On 2/14/20 11:30 AM, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 14/02/2020 à 08:24, Tito via Dng a écrit : On 2/14/20 3:37 AM, Ozi Traveller via Dng wrote: Does this help? You've probably seen this already. https://mike632t.wordpress.com/2019/11/17/gksu-is-dead-long-live-pkexec/ https://www.freedesktop.org

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed? dropin replacement

2020-02-19 Thread Tito via Dng
On 2/19/20 10:23 AM, tom wrote: On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 00:35:26 -0800 tom wrote: Deprecated gksudo? Well thats pretty dumb. Any particular reason Devuan doesn't just fish around for the old gksudo git repo and continue that instead of dealing with this policykit mess of complexity? You can

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed? dropin replacement

2020-02-21 Thread Tito via Dng
On 2/21/20 10:56 PM, Florian Zieboll wrote: On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 15:57:42 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 01:23:47 -0800 tom wrote: Just found a drop-in replacement for gksudo. It's called lxqt-sudo. https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-sudo It works pretty well. Will it work even

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed? dropin replacement

2020-02-23 Thread Tito via Dng
On 2/23/20 11:10 PM, marc wrote: You should never send an unencrypted password over a shell or pipe. So in the case of the former (using the shell, via echo or an environment variable) you are correct. Those show up in process listings... I am not so sure about the second part, the bit about

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed?

2020-02-13 Thread Tito via Dng
On 2/14/20 3:37 AM, Ozi Traveller via Dng wrote: Does this help? You've probably seen this already. https://mike632t.wordpress.com/2019/11/17/gksu-is-dead-long-live-pkexec/ https://www.freedesktop.org/software/polkit/docs/0.105/pkexec.1.html On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:28 PM Gastón via Dng

Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports - slim 3d try

2020-01-03 Thread Tito via Dng
On 12/31/19 8:58 PM, fsmithred via Dng wrote: Please upgrade your highly customized and configured ascii production system to beowulf and tell us if it works. Okay, DO THIS ON A COPY, not the real thing. I've upgraded standard no-X systems, xfce and mate desktops, and those went smoothly.

Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports

2020-01-03 Thread Tito via Dng
On 1/3/20 10:11 PM, te...@tempforever.dynu.com wrote: fsmithred via Dng wrote: Please upgrade your highly customized and configured ascii production system to beowulf and tell us if it works. Okay, DO THIS ON A COPY, not the real thing. Did another successful upgrade.  XFCE desktop.  LVM

Re: [DNG] Result of the Debian vote 'General Resolution: Init systems and systemd'

2020-01-01 Thread Tito via Dng
On 12/31/19 7:46 PM, Steve Litt wrote: On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 17:00:39 + (UTC) Alexis PM via Dng wrote: >Many years ago, on this mailing list, one of the VUAs mentioned that the long term plan was to leave Debian behind and become the Devuan independent distro. I am sorry to burst

Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports

2020-01-05 Thread Tito via Dng
On 06/01/20 02:30, tempforever wrote: 'smee via Dng wrote: When I ran dist-upgrade the first time, it downloaded and unpacked everything okay but then failed with an error that dpkg had errored out. /var/log/dpkg.log didn't give anything helpful but I ended up finding the solution was to run

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of lapto have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-09 Thread Tito via Dng
Hi, 1 DELL LATITUDE D820 1 ASUS EEPC 1018PX they just work. Ciao, Tito On 4/9/20 3:56 AM, terryc wrote: > This is a hardware question. > Which brand and model(s) of laptop have people successfully installed > devuan onto? > How difficult was it? > > Thank You In Advance. > > The long

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-26 Thread Tito via Dng
On 4/26/20 7:43 PM, aitor wrote: > Hi, > >> On 9/4/20 18:16, Didier Kryn wrote: >>>     I remember this was also the case in a previous version, wether Jessie >>> or Ascii. Obviously this isn't an issue when upgrading. I also remind you >>> that the startup delay caused by the timed-out

Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-08-30 Thread Tito via Dng
Il 30/08/20 06:33, Gregory Nowak ha scritto: > On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 10:36:26PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: >> On 2020-08-29 22:15, Gregory Nowak wrote: >>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 09:15:13PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M of=/dev/sdx >>> >>> That will just

Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-09-04 Thread Tito via Dng
Il 04/09/20 08:50, goli...@devuan.org ha scritto: > On 2020-09-01 00:07, goli...@devuan.org wrote: >> Thanks to everyone who has responded to this thread (some off-list). I >> just wanted to drop a short note updating you that the dock arrived >> earlier today but I haven't yet had a chance to

Re: [DNG] removing systemd from rpm-based distro

2020-09-25 Thread Tito via Dng
Il 25/09/20 13:03, Peter Duffy ha scritto: > Apologies - this is probably off-topic, or at least veering off in that > direction. Also apologies if this has been addressed previously and I've > missed it - if so, I'd appreciate it if someone would point me at the > discussion. > > Given the

Re: [DNG] AppArmor documentation and packaging

2020-10-01 Thread Tito via Dng
Il 01/10/20 17:43, kdibble ha scritto: > I don't know to whom these should go to, or how to get them fixed. > > Documentation: > > Having read the fine manual: > > Neither > man apparmor > or > man apparmor.d > > have any mention of apparmor.d/local > > There is no mention of proper

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-16 Thread Tito via Dng
Il 16/09/20 08:11, Steve Litt ha scritto: > On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 16:41:19 + > A Nilsson wrote: > >>> From: Dng [mailto:dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org] On Behalf Of Bruce >>> Perens via Dng Sent: den 14 september 2020 06:23 >> >>> Systemd and so on are symptoms of the Unix design not really

Re: [DNG] my experience upgrading to NFT

2020-08-03 Thread Tito via Dng
On 8/3/20 10:53 AM, Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: > On Fri, 2020-07-31 at 18:44 -0700, Thomas Groman via Dng wrote: >> I upgraded one of my larger and more complex servers from ASCII to >> Beowulf. Switching to NFT was very easy after the upgrade. Just >> create the rules, (have flush have the

Re: [DNG] Configuration of boot drives

2020-06-29 Thread Tito via Dng
On 6/29/20 6:22 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 05:49:29PM +0200, Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba > wrote: >> Hi, Hendrik. >> >> El Sun, 28 Jun 2020 18:37:45 -0400 >> Hendrik Boom escribió: >> >>> Where is it configured which drives get updated when I update the kernel, >>>

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

2020-06-14 Thread Tito via Dng
On 6/14/20 4:44 PM, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote: > Am 2020-06-14 15:09, schrieb Dr. Nikolaus Klepp: >> Anno domini 2020 Sun, 14 Jun 14:12:21 +0200 >>  J. Fahrner via Dng scripsit: >>> [   22.579214] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk >>> [ 1145.246051] EXT4-fs (sda1): mounted filesystem with

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

2020-06-13 Thread Tito via Dng
On 6/13/20 9:49 AM, richard lucassen via Dng wrote: > On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 08:52:18 +0200 > "J. Fahrner via Dng" wrote: > >> Am 2020-06-13 08:25, schrieb J. Fahrner via Dng: >>> nofail was a good hint. Now the system boots, but the usb disk is >>> still not mounted. "mount -a" mounts it without

Re: [DNG] Anybody successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 with Devuan?

2020-11-29 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 07:26:58 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Has anyone successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 with > Devuan? As a bonus, has anyone gotten it to work without Pulseaudio? > > Thanks, > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > Autumn 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough

[DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-17 Thread tito via Dng
Hi, a few days ago I was able to complete may new router with 12 nics and 1 wifi. I moved the devuan drive from my previous defunct box to the new one and experienced all the problems reported in the "Ethernet names revisited" thread. I tried all the wise advice of the thread included my own just

Re: [DNG] Ethernet names revisited

2020-12-12 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 14:15:53 +0100 Antony Stone wrote: > Hi. > > I've just installed a couple of Beowulf systems, each of which has > three ethernet interfaces; one on the motherboard, and two on a PCI > card. > > I'm trying to work out how to give those interfaces the names I want; > the

Re: [DNG] Ethernet names revisited - a workaround (but the basic question still remains)

2020-12-12 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 23:11:52 +0100 Antony Stone wrote: > On Saturday 12 December 2020 at 14:15:53, Antony Stone wrote: > > > Historically, I've been used to udev > > and /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent- net.rules doing this, where I > > can specify the name I want for each interface according

Re: [DNG] Ethernet names revisited

2020-12-13 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 10:45:56 +0100 Antony Stone wrote: > On Sunday 13 December 2020 at 09:25:24, terryc wrote: > > > On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 14:15:53 +0100 > > > > Antony Stone wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > > > I've just installed a couple of Beowulf systems, each of which has > > > three ethernet

Re: [DNG] Ethernet names revisited

2020-12-13 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 14:25:37 +0100 tito via Dng wrote: > On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 10:45:56 +0100 > Antony Stone wrote: > > > On Sunday 13 December 2020 at 09:25:24, terryc wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 14:15:53 +0100 > > > > > > Antony Ston

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-24 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 10:10:07 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 23:41:58 +0100 > Didier Kryn wrote: > > > Le 23/12/2020 à 22:03, Antony Stone a écrit : > > > If the kernel decides A=eth1, B=eth2, C=eth0 then there's no way > > > for udev rules to rename them, because "File exists"

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-24 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 16:21:24 +0100 aitor wrote: > Hi Tito, > > On 24/12/20 14:24, tito via Dng wrote: > > BTW: I noticed during my test that even pci bus numbers can > > change wildly in the predictable names case (vs MACS, > > if I recall it

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-24 Thread tito via Dng
Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 24, 2020, at 8:24 AM, tito via Dng > > wrote: > > > > On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:40:58 +0100 > > Didier Kryn wrote: > > > >> Le 24/12/2020 à 00:24, Antony Stone a écrit : > >>>>Or maybe the kernel is

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-24 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:40:58 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 24/12/2020 à 00:24, Antony Stone a écrit : > >> Or maybe the kernel is much faster than Eudev and it has the > >> time to create the interfaces faster than Eudev processes them. > > That sounds likely. > > > >> But for sure the

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-18 Thread tito via Dng
On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 18:55:22 +0100 Antony Stone wrote: > On Friday 18 December 2020 at 00:17:48, tito via Dng wrote: > > > Hi, > > a few days ago I was able to complete may new router > > with 12 nics and 1 wifi. > > I'm intrigued. What do you need 12 NICs for th

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-19 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 15:10:01 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 18/12/2020 à 17:26, Hendrik Boom a écrit : > > > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Mdev says: > > In general, when using KDE or GNOME, mdev is not suitable. > > but does not explain why. > > I surmise that KDE and GNOME have some specific

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-19 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 11:40:31 -0800 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2020-12-18 21:28, tito via Dng wrote: > > > I love physical connections therefore I prefer NICs over Wifi, so 12 > > of them are not so much (a few clients, a server, pos, couple of > > printers, Nas,

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-21 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 04:21:40 + tux...@sapo.pt wrote: > hello, > > > > > "Hi, > > > a few days ago I was able to complete may new router > > > > with 12 nics and 1 wifi. I moved the devuan drive from > > > > my previous defunct box to the new one and experienced > > > > all the problems

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-18 Thread tito via Dng
On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 15:22:37 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 18/12/2020 à 14:41, tito via Dng a écrit : > > On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 10:36:01 +0100 > > Didier Kryn wrote: > > > >> Le 18/12/2020 à 00:17, tito via Dng a écrit : > >>> Hi, > >>>

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-18 Thread tito via Dng
On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 10:36:01 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 18/12/2020 à 00:17, tito via Dng a écrit : > > Hi, > > a few days ago I was able to complete may new router > > with 12 nics and 1 wifi. I moved the devuan drive from > > my previous defunct box to the new

[DNG] if2mac V0.2 init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-27 Thread tito via Dng
Hi, attached you will find a improved and more robust version of if2mac initscript and a example configuration file. The script is tested only on 2 systems, my desktop (3 nics) and my router (12 nics + wlan) and seems to work so far. If there are any bold testers who want to give it a try their

Re: [DNG] Who is disabling core dumps?

2020-11-18 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 12:10:19 +0100 Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > Hi all, > > I enabled core dumps in /etc/security/limits.d/coredump.conf (* - > core unlimited); core_pattern and suid_dumpable are set > appropriately. However, most processes have a soft limit of 0; that > is, core dump

Re: [DNG] packages held back due to conflict with libsystemd0

2020-11-07 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 07 Nov 2020 10:41:47 -0300 Eike Lantzsch via Dng wrote: > Hi!Maybe somebody can add some cheese to my whine: > > For months I am not able to resolve this catch-22 in Beowulf: > > The following packages have been kept back: > > Description: user, seat and session management library >

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-25 Thread tito via Dng
On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 10:09:18 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 09:57:43 +0100 > tito via Dng wrote: > > > On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:11:49 -0500 > > Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 16:32:18 +0100 > > > tito via Dng wrote:

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-25 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:11:49 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 16:32:18 +0100 > tito via Dng wrote: > > > On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 10:10:07 -0500 > > Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 23:41:58 +0100 > > > Didier Kryn wrote: &

[DNG] Why attachments are stripped from the web archives?

2021-01-05 Thread tito via Dng
Hi, I wonder why attachments are stripped from the web archives? Ciao, Tito ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] if2mac V0.3 init.d service for persistent network interface names

2021-01-13 Thread tito via Dng
Hi, attached and inline you will find a improved and more robust version of if2mac initscript and a example configuration file. The script is tested only on 5 systems, my desktop (3 nics) and my 2 routers (8/12 nics + wlan) and 2 NAS and seems to work. If there are any bold testers who want to

Re: [DNG] X startup error

2021-01-24 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 18:27:13 -0700 Fred wrote: > On 1/23/21 6:02 PM, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 09:53:15 -0700 > > Fred wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I installed Beowulf amd64 netinst and then installed Xorg and > >> openbox with apt-get. Startx grinds for a

Re: [DNG] Another request for assistance

2021-06-14 Thread tito via Dng
On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 17:42:04 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 4:11 PM Tim Wallace > wrote: > > > After you boot with rEFInd, follow the directions for "Reinstalling > > grub-efi on your hard drive" on this page: GrubEFIReinstall - > > Debian Wiki

Re: [DNG] Hopman and inotify

2021-06-13 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 15:35:56 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I think inotify is the best foundation for a usb plugin/plugout > detector. I used it in my early 2015 proof of concept proving that > Poettering's socket activation was overkill and could be accomplished > much less intrusively

Re: [DNG] ..maybe webmin?, was: Cockpit removal might make sense

2021-06-13 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 19:41:28 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > d...@d404.nl writes: > > > On 08-06-2021 00:46, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 12:05:39AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > >>> ..snip "tech" justification of subversive systemd politics. > >>> > So

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

2021-06-13 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 12:37:00 -0700 Fred wrote: > On 6/11/21 7:05 AM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 17:37:13 -0700 > > Fred wrote: > > > >> On 6/10/21 1:48 PM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > >>> On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 08:49:24 -0700 > >>> Fred wrote: > >>> >

Re: [DNG] ntp setup

2021-06-19 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 09:31:23 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > Noticed that my new Beowulf install time was not accurate. > > Went looking for a tips page and all I could find was information > relating to using systemd and or its tools to do such. I know there is > a way to do

[DNG] End of free open source software?

2021-05-09 Thread tito via Dng
Hi to all, today while reading online my selection of international newspapers on the german www. faz.net I've found this little article which made my antennas vibrate, link is:

Re: [DNG] exim paniclog

2021-05-31 Thread tito via Dng
On Mon, 31 May 2021 21:43:54 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: > On Monday 31 May 2021 at 21:37:30, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > > Is deleting the paniclog the proper way to stop receiving these > > > e-mails? > > > > No, don't delete it, empty it, this should be the standard practice > > when manually

Re: [DNG] attempting to migrate from Buster to Beowulf

2021-05-23 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 23 May 2021 07:53:21 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > For a number of reasons I would prefer to migrate (this machine is a > server test bed (where I experiment)). > > Following the 'destrucitons' on: >

Re: [DNG] attempting to migrate from Buster to Beowulf

2021-05-23 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 23 May 2021 09:00:43 -0500 o1bigtenor wrote: > On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 8:03 AM tito via Dng > wrote: > > > > On Sun, 23 May 2021 07:53:21 -0500 > > o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > For a

Re: [DNG] Odd issue with busybox dc in beowulf

2021-04-29 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 09:59:02 +0800 Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: > G'day All, > > I've upgraded a staging server from Jessie to Beowulf and find a > script in my initramfs is now broken, tracking it down it is a huge > change in behaviour in the busybox version of dc and I can't find any >

Re: [DNG] Odd issue with busybox dc in beowulf

2021-04-28 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 09:59:02 +0800 Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: > G'day All, > > I've upgraded a staging server from Jessie to Beowulf and find a > script in my initramfs is now broken, tracking it down it is a huge > change in behaviour in the busybox version of dc and I can't find any >

Re: [DNG] ..are we|Devuan safe from this systemd backdoor malware, taking our kernels from Debian?

2021-05-05 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 05 May 2021 19:04:10 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Hi Martin, list, > Martin Steigerwald writes: > > > Hi! > > > > goli...@devuan.org - 02.05.21, 22:15:48 CEST: > >> On 2021-05-02 06:08, terryc wrote: > >> > Unfortunately there are systemd libraries installed by > >> >

Re: [DNG] Remote two-way sound?

2021-03-27 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:36:46 +0100 Antony Stone wrote: > Hi. > > I don't know if I'm just overlooking something obvious, but I can't > think of the answer... > > Does anyone know of a remote access mechanism which supports two-way > sound? > > I've deliberately worded that slightly vaguely,

Re: [DNG] minor panic with host reboot

2021-04-01 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 08:13:45 -0600 "Chris Richmond" wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 07:53:34 +0200 > From: tito > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Subject: Re: [DNG] minor panic with host reboot > Message-ID: <20210401075334.6573abb6@devuan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On

Re: [DNG] FSF and human rights

2021-03-27 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 17:50:07 +0100 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 08:30:14 -0400, Steve wrote in message > <20210327083014.2b434...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > > > Alexis PM via Dng said on Sat, 27 Mar 2021 09:23:21 + (UTC) > > > > > > Hi All, > > >> > > >> Debian is engaging in a

Re: [DNG] minor panic with host reboot

2021-03-31 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 10:29:52 +1100 wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > > > > On 1 Apr 2021, at 08:27, crich...@blackfoot.net wrote: > > > >  > > I’ve had a router/misc./etc. running ASCII for a couple of years, > > and today I inadvertently rebooted it > > > > because I wasn’t playing attention

Re: [DNG] I kinda sorta got opennic DNS working

2021-03-11 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 13:18:27 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting tito via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > > > On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:38:35 -0800 > > Rick Moen wrote: > > > > > Quoting Dimitris via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > > > > > > > https

Re: [DNG] web conferencing software (was Re: Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver?)

2021-03-10 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 23:02:31 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting tito via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > > > Hi, > > just for fast information, is it enough for unbound to remove: > > > > forward-zone: > > #forward-first: yes > > name:

Re: [DNG] I kinda sorta got opennic DNS working

2021-03-10 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 23:07:14 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting tito via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > > > Hi, > > can this opennic.cache file be downloaded freely or do you need > > to register? > > As mentioned, I have not experimented with alternative DNS roots

Re: [DNG] I kinda sorta got opennic DNS working

2021-03-10 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:38:35 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Dimitris via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > > > https://wiki.opennic.org/tier_2_unbound > > > > eg. for opennic root servers : > > # dig . NS @161.97.219.84 > root.hints > > Yeah, I _vaguely_ recall (after not paying attention to such

Re: [DNG] web conferencing software (was Re: Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver?)

2021-03-09 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 22:26:29 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Gabe Stanton via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > > > In the absence of a "community of dns server operators and users", > > is the optimal option to have everyone run their own recursive > > server? But then the upstream servers still get

Re: [DNG] I kinda sorta got opennic DNS working

2021-03-09 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 22:02:47 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > > > When I added four opennic root servers to my unbound's root.hints > > {laughs} > > Oh, you sweet summer child. Experimenting with alternative DNS roots, > eh? > > It's been decades

Re: [DNG] My Qemu LAN-peer documentation is now in its first draft

2021-03-02 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 01:34:40 +1100 Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > On 02/03 14:29, tito wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 00:06:27 +1100 > > Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > > > > > On 02/03 06:48, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > As you know, I was asking many Qemu LAN-peer

Re: [DNG] My Qemu LAN-peer documentation is now in its first draft

2021-03-03 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 03 Mar 2021 21:44:30 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 7:54 PM, tito via Dng > wrote: > > > On Wed, 03 Mar 2021 16:15:10 + > > g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > > > > >

Re: [DNG] My Qemu LAN-peer documentation is now in its first draft

2021-03-03 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 03 Mar 2021 16:15:10 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 3:21 PM, tito via Dng > wrote: > > > On Wed, 03 Mar 2021 14:52:57 + > > g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > > &

Re: [DNG] My Qemu LAN-peer documentation is now in its first draft

2021-03-02 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 00:06:27 +1100 Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > On 02/03 06:48, Steve Litt wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > As you know, I was asking many Qemu LAN-peer questions on this list > > a week ago. My documentation on the subject has finally achieved > > first-draft status. If you'd like

Re: [DNG] How to firewall on Devuan?

2021-02-24 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 07:01:58 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm now at the stage where I need a firewall on my Devuan VM guest, > and I don't know how to do it. I have the iptables package installed, > and /usr/sbin/iptables is a command, but I have no idea where to go > from there. Is

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-04 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 04 Mar 2021 10:20:11 -0700 Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote: > On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 16:51 +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > > in anycase disco would be last on my list of 70s music :P > > not even a little redneck disco? > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaK3a44BghU > > I admit it's from

Re: [DNG] xrdp in devuan?

2021-03-04 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 09:39:22 -0600 vmlinux wrote: > Hi All, > I have a segregated LAN with clones of our production machines > sitting in it which is used for testing patches, developer things, > etc. It's a "testing" network. People are logging into the test > network by connecting their RDP

Re: [DNG] Strange behaviour with last version of grub

2021-03-04 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 17:22:42 +0100 viverna wrote: > Yesterday I updated one of my computers with apt-get upgrade. This > packages are upgraded: > > grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common > > dpkg install from version 2.02+dfsg1-20+deb10u3 to version > 2.02+dfsg1-20+deb10u4 > >

Re: [DNG] My Qemu LAN-peer documentation is now in its first draft

2021-03-04 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:38:49 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > > >On Wed, 03 Mar 2021 21:44:30 + > >g4sra via Dng wrote: > > >In my young years I used to tinker with linux distros on floppy > >disks and there still where eth0, eth1 and so on but no udev, > >so where did the names came from? > >

Re: [DNG] My Qemu LAN-peer documentation is now in its first draft

2021-03-03 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 07:24:50 +0100 aitor wrote: > Hi tito, > > On 4/3/21 0:47, tito via Dng wrote: > > In my young years I used to tinker with linux distros on floppy > > disks and there still where eth0, eth1 and so on but no udev, > > so where did the names came fr

Re: [DNG] My Qemu LAN-peer documentation is now in its first draft

2021-03-02 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 01:06:55 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 13:06:45 +1100 > Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > > > On 03/03 00:19, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > > On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 12:15 AM, spiralofhope > > > wrote: > > > > On Wed,

Re: [DNG] My Qemu LAN-peer documentation is now in its first draft

2021-03-03 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 10:40:20 +0100 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 08:04:19 +0100 > tito via Dng wrote: > > > you can set the device names by MAC addresses at boot > > and in the past it worked as udev/eudev net-persisent-name.rules > > (but seems

Re: [DNG] My Qemu LAN-peer documentation is now in its first draft

2021-03-03 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 10:16:13 +0100 John Hughes wrote: > On 02/03/2021 15:57, tito via Dng wrote: > > I would add that renaming of multiple cards/ports works > > only if you rename all of them to a different intermediate name > > and then back to wanted name and order other

Re: [DNG] My Qemu LAN-peer documentation is now in its first draft

2021-03-03 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 15:07:14 +0100 John Hughes wrote: > On 03/03/2021 14:01, tito wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 10:16:13 +0100 > > John Hughes wrote: > > > >> On 02/03/2021 15:57, tito via Dng wrote: > >>> I would add that renaming of multiple card

Re: [DNG] My Qemu LAN-peer documentation is now in its first draft

2021-03-03 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 03 Mar 2021 14:52:57 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > <-- huge snip --> > > Just for completeness should someone dig this thread up trying to > solve an issue...such as a 12 port router > > The kernel's FDT determines the order of detection for built-in > interfaces. Learn how to make

Re: [DNG] My Qemu LAN-peer documentation is now in its first draft

2021-03-04 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 11:02:08 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 04/03/2021 à 07:46, tito via Dng a écrit : > > How Linux assigns network interface names > > The default name for Ethernet interfaces is based upon how Linux > > initializes them during device discovery. As Li

[DNG] Bug on backport-kernel

2021-03-07 Thread tito via Dng
Hi, somebody has an idea what this is about? I 've looked at _rb_insert_augmented but there was nothing obvious for a self taught free time coder. Ciao, Tito Mar 7 01:00:01 aplysia kernel: [1168943.562359] BUG: kernel NULL pointer dereference, address: 0008 Mar 7 01:00:01 aplysia

Re: [DNG] What does this remind you of?

2021-03-07 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 18:03:30 +0100 Antony Stone wrote: > On Sunday 07 March 2021 at 17:59:22, Steve Litt wrote: > > > See this web page: > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-pattern > > > > I'd say at least half of the listed anti-patterns are used by > > systemd. > > Very nice. > >

Re: [DNG] What does this remind you of?

2021-03-07 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 19:11:18 +0100 "d...@d404.nl" wrote: > On 07-03-2021 18:20, tito via Dng wrote: > > On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 18:03:30 +0100 > > Antony Stone wrote: > > > >> On Sunday 07 March 2021 at 17:59:22, Steve Litt wrote: > >> > >>

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-05 Thread tito via Dng
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 10:49:06 +0100 Stephane Ascoet via Dng wrote: > tito : > > You still have Tiscali in Italy ;-) > > > >> > >> Others include of course Pink Floyd, > > It's my second favorite band and I wrote them in my first mail ;-) > > > Steppenwolf, Janis Joplin, The > >> Doors...so

Re: [DNG] My Qemu LAN-peer documentation is now in its first draft

2021-03-05 Thread tito via Dng
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 18:56:25 + Simon Hobson wrote: > Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > > For the sake of completeness and y'all's convenience, here a link > > to the related info in the Debianwiki: > > > > https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkInterfaceNames > > Did anyone else read that and

Re: [DNG] Debian/Buster-to-Devuan/Beowulf : Version 1

2021-04-07 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 07 Apr 2021 13:42:40 +0200 Svante Signell via Dng wrote: > Hello, > > The following instructions is the first version of how to migrate from > Debian/Buster to Devuan/Beowulf. This description is a complement to > the description at: >

Re: [DNG] BUG in desktop-base

2021-04-13 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 02:06:05 +0200 aitor wrote: > Hi Tito, > > On 12/4/21 21:35, tito via Dng wrote: > > Hi, > > while trying and retrying buster to beowulf migrations I've seen > > this error pop up a few times. Could this be considered a bug? > > &

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-15 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 20:06:02 +0200 Antoine via Dng wrote: > On Wednesday, 14 April at 16:13, tito via Dng wrote: > > > >Hi, > >thanks for your time and effort. My question was rather practical, > >so let me rephrase it: is there a robust way to detect from a s

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.8

2021-04-15 Thread tito via Dng
Hi, v 1.8 now with supported DE's: 1) GNOME 2) LXDE 3) LXQT 4) XFCE 5) KDE 6) MATE 7) CINNAMON and minor fixes, improvements and cleanups. Made script more robust against failures: 1) added test for internet connectivity 2) check that time and date is correct or apt update will fail.

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.8

2021-04-15 Thread tito via Dng
On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 00:32:51 +0200 tito via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > v 1.8 > > now with supported DE's: > > 1) GNOME > 2) LXDE > 3) LXQT > 4) XFCE > 5) KDE > 6) MATE > 7) CINNAMON > > and minor fixes, improvements and cleanups. > > Made s

[DNG] Script to migrate buster GNOME DE to beowulf

2021-04-09 Thread tito via Dng
Hi, attached you will find a proof of concept script for a buster to beowulf migration. It is tested only in a standard install (plus gnome DE and ssh) buster Virtualbox 6.1 vm fully updated to version 10.9. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!!! DON'T USE IN PRODUCTION!!! Bold testers, hints and improvements

Re: [DNG] Upgrade stuck on grub-pc unresponsive GUI [Was: Beowulf 3.0.0 won't update

2021-04-10 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 17:39:26 +0930 dva...@internode.on.net wrote: > > On 10.04.21 01:47, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > Hi Erik, > > > > Have a look at this thread: > > > https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20200601.192228.c35aef7f.en.html > > > Many thanks. The work-around seems to work, and

Re: [DNG] Debian/Buster-to-Devuan/Beowulf : Version 3

2021-04-10 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 21:56:03 +0200 Svante Signell via Dng wrote: > Hello, > > The following text file describes the procedure: > (replacing Debian's Gnome desktop (default) with Devuan's Gnome) > > apt-get install emacs-nox > apt-get install net-tools > emacs ~srs/.bashrc > + export

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