Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-isp-ip6rdns-06.txt

2018-09-10 Thread Lee Howard
On 09/06/2018 03:14 AM, Shane Kerr wrote: All, On 2018-09-05 20:45, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations WG of the IETF. Title   : Reve

[DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-isp-ip6rdns

2017-11-16 Thread Lee Howard
I updated this draft months ago, based on feedback from the previous WGLC, and it expired without comment. I’ve refreshed it, and would like to ask again for reviews (especially if anything has changed in the past year) and another WGLC. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-isp-ip6rdn

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-isp-ip6rdns-03.txt

2017-05-12 Thread Lee Howard
On 5/11/17, 1:28 PM, "DNSOP on behalf of Paul Vixie" wrote: > > >John Levine wrote: > In my experience, without reverse DNS it is essentially impossible >to have > mail delivered to the internet at large. Yes. >>> since this isn't an ideal or intended state of affairs, let's co

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-isp-ip6rdns-03.txt

2017-05-03 Thread Lee Howard
On 5/2/17, 3:16 PM, "DNSOP on behalf of Paul Vixie" wrote: > > >Lee Howard wrote: >> >> On 3/16/17, 7:02 AM, "Philip Homburg" > behalf of pch-dnso...@u-1.phicoh.com> wrote: >> >>> In my experience, without reverse DNS it is essent

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-isp-ip6rdns-03.txt

2017-05-02 Thread Lee Howard
On 3/16/17, 7:02 AM, "Philip Homburg" wrote: >>1. I do not think there is consensus that having PTRs is or is not a best >>practice, so emphasizing the lack of consensus lets us move on to what an >>ISP can do, if they care to do anything. >>The first paragraph has been overhauled to say "While

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-isp-ip6rdns-03.txt

2017-03-15 Thread Lee Howard
aft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations of the >IETF. > >Title : Reverse DNS in IPv6 for Internet Service >Providers >Author : Lee Howard > Filename: draft-ietf-dnsop-isp-ip6rdns-03.txt > Pages :

[DNSOP] FW: New Version Notification for draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-08.txt

2015-05-15 Thread Lee Howard
uot;internet-dra...@ietf.org" >wrote: > >> >>A new version of I-D, draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-08.txt >>has been successfully submitted by Lee Howard and posted to the >>IETF repository. >> >>Name: draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns >>Revision:

Re: [DNSOP] relax the requirement for PTR records?

2015-05-13 Thread Lee Howard
From: Lee Howard Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 10:57 AM To: , Alain Durand Cc: "dnsop@ietf.org" Subject: [DNSOP] relax the requirement for PTR records? > > Is there consensus now that ISPs don't need to provide PTRs for their > customers? Nope, there is

Re: [DNSOP] relax the requirement for PTR records?

2015-05-13 Thread Lee Howard
On 5/13/15, 11:12 AM, "Tony Finch" wrote: >Lee Howard wrote: >> >> Is there consensus now that ISPs don't need to provide PTRs for their >> customers? > >ISPs should delegate the relevant part of the IPv6 reverse DNS tree to the >customer, so the c

Re: [DNSOP] relax the requirement for PTR records?

2015-05-13 Thread Lee Howard
On 5/13/15, 11:05 AM, "Paul Wouters" wrote: >On Wed, 13 May 2015, Lee Howard wrote: > >> Is there consensus now that ISPs don¹t need to provide PTRs for their >>customers? > >No. > >As long as the anti-spam meassures include refusing email from IPv6 >

[DNSOP] relax the requirement for PTR records?

2015-05-13 Thread Lee Howard
dnesday, April 1, 2015 at 10:05 PM To: Alain Durand Cc: Lee Howard , "dnsop@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [DNSOP] draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-07.txt > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Alain Durand wrote: >> >> 3) There is another solution, that is do nothing, i.e. Do NOT po

[DNSOP] draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-07.txt

2015-03-31 Thread Lee Howard
;s baked, I think there's consensus. Thanks, Lee On 2/15/15, 11:56 AM, "Lee Howard" wrote: >Per discussion, I have added the four use cases discussed at a previous >meeting. >The "Recommendations" section is now "Considerations and Recommendations." >

[DNSOP] FW: New Version Notification for draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-07.txt

2015-02-15 Thread Lee Howard
s applause). Is this document ripe for publication? Thanks, Lee On 2/15/15 11:46 AM, "internet-dra...@ietf.org" wrote: > >A new version of I-D, draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-07.txt >has been successfully submitted by Lee Howard and posted to the >IETF repository. > >Name:

Re: [DNSOP] Using PTRs for security validation is stupid

2014-11-12 Thread Lee Howard
needed to change eventually. And here's the RFC saying it's wrong: rfc4120 (from that thread). Lee From: George Michaelson Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:07 AM To: Dan York Cc: Warren Kumari , Lee Howard , DNSOP WG Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Using PTRs for security validat

Re: [DNSOP] Using PTRs for security validation is stupid

2014-11-12 Thread Lee Howard
On 11/11/14 9:30 PM, "Warren Kumari" wrote: >On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Lee Howard wrote: >> Many SSH servers (by default) reject connections from IP addresses >>without >> PTRs. >> This is stupid. >> > >dun't matter if it is stu

[DNSOP] Using PTRs for security validation is stupid

2014-11-11 Thread Lee Howard
Many SSH servers (by default) reject connections from IP addresses without PTRs. This is stupid. I heard applause during the WG meeting in response to these statements; sounded like consensus to me. I said I would check that consensus on list. Thanks, Lee ___

Re: [DNSOP] Draft Reverse DNS in IPv6 for Internet Service Providers

2014-10-30 Thread Lee Howard
On 10/23/14 5:17 PM, "Mark Andrews" wrote: > >In message , Lee Howard writes: >> >> From: Mwendwa Kivuva >> Date: Thursday, October 23, 2014 7:23 AM >> To: dnsop >> Subject: [DNSOP] Draft Reverse DNS in IPv6 for Internet Service >>Pr

Re: [DNSOP] Draft Reverse DNS in IPv6 for Internet Service Providers

2014-10-23 Thread Lee Howard
From: Mwendwa Kivuva Date: Thursday, October 23, 2014 7:23 AM To: dnsop Subject: [DNSOP] Draft Reverse DNS in IPv6 for Internet Service Providers > Refering to the draft by Lee Howard > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-howard-dnsop-ip6rdns-00 > > and given the weakness of

[DNSOP] draft-howard-dnsop-ip6rdns

2014-10-14 Thread Lee Howard
We discussed this in Toronto, and there seemed to be a positive response to the question, "Is this work we should undertake in this WG?" There were two pointers, to http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-andrews-dnsop-pd-reverse-02 and to the Homenet naming work. I'm editing to add those references; is

Re: [DNSOP] summary (was: RE: new version of IPv6 rDNS for ISPs)

2012-11-29 Thread Lee Howard
> -Original Message- > From: dnsop-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ted Lemon > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:46 AM > To: Warren Kumari > Cc: Lee Howard; > Subject: Re: [DNSOP] summary (was: RE: new version of IPv6 rDNS for ISPs) &g

Re: [DNSOP] summary (was: RE: new version of IPv6 rDNS for ISPs)

2012-11-29 Thread Lee Howard
> -Original Message- > From: Tony Finch [mailto:fa...@hermes.cam.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tony Finch > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 6:06 AM > To: Ted Lemon > Cc: Lee Howard; > Subject: Re: [DNSOP] summary (was: RE: new version of IPv6 rDNS for ISPs) > > Ted Lem

Re: [DNSOP] summary (was: RE: new version of IPv6 rDNS for ISPs)

2012-11-28 Thread Lee Howard
> -Original Message- > From: Ted Lemon [mailto:ted.le...@nominum.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 4:23 PM > To: Lee Howard > Cc: > Subject: Re: [DNSOP] summary (was: RE: new version of IPv6 rDNS for ISPs) > > On Nov 28, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Lee Howard

[DNSOP] summary (was: RE: new version of IPv6 rDNS for ISPs)

2012-11-28 Thread Lee Howard
Thanks for the lively discussion! Here's what I heard, in addition to several useful, non-controversial text suggestions: 1. Uses for reverse DNS a. Several people think it's unnecessary to require PTRs. A few even think a lack of PTRs might be a good thing (in the case of mail servers reject

[DNSOP] new version of IPv6 rDNS for ISPs

2012-11-21 Thread Lee Howard
You may remember this draft from a couple of years ago. People keep asking me what a residential ISP should do for IPv6 PTR records, and I keep repeating what's in the draft. The intent is to document existing solutions, since prepopulating PTRs like we did in IPv4 doesn't work. Last time I broug

[DNSOP] IPv6 rDNS for ISPs v3

2010-03-08 Thread Lee Howard
I apologize for waiting until the last minute to make updates. Earlier versions of this draft have been discussed on-list and at the last two IETF meetings: draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-03 Comments from the last meeting were as follows; I think I have responded to all of them in the new draf

Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-01

2009-11-09 Thread Lee Howard
Thank you, these are excellent suggestions. In particular, you raise several points that require clarification; I will try to respond in the near future. Lee > -Original Message- > From: dnsop-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of JINMEI > Tatuya / > Sent: Tue

Re: [DNSOP] Dynamically Generated PTR, was Re: ... rDNS for IPv6...

2009-09-03 Thread Lee Howard
> -Original Message- > From: dnsop-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Edward > Lewis > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:07 PM > To: Lee Howard > Cc: dnsop@ietf.org; 'Edward Lewis' > Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Dynamically Generated

Re: [DNSOP] A practical solution for ISP-level support of the reverse DNS tree for IPv6

2009-09-03 Thread Lee Howard
> -Original Message- > From: dnsop-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ted Lemon > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 1:05 PM > To: Lee Howard > Cc: 'dnsop' > Subject: [DNSOP] A practical solution for ISP-level support of the reverse

Re: [DNSOP] Dynamically Generated PTR, was Re: ... rDNS for IPv6...

2009-09-03 Thread Lee Howard
> -Original Message- > From: dnsop-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Edward > Lewis > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 4:35 PM > To: fujiw...@jprs.co.jp > Cc: dnsop@ietf.org; ed.le...@neustar.biz > Subject: [DNSOP] Dynamically Generated PTR, was Re: ... rDNS for

Re: [DNSOP] Draft on rDNS for IPv6: draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-00

2009-09-03 Thread Lee Howard
> -Original Message- > From: dnsop-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Douglas > Otis > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 2:18 PM > To: Doug Barton > Cc: dnsop; Shane Kerr > Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Draft on rDNS for IPv6: draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-00 > > Saying IPv6

Re: [DNSOP] Draft on rDNS for IPv6: draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-00

2009-09-03 Thread Lee Howard
> -Original Message- > From: dnsop-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mark > Andrews > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:53 PM > To: Doug Barton > Cc: dnsop > Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Draft on rDNS for IPv6: draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns-00 > > Windows already attempts to