Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Marc Paré]

Hi all,

Just to add, in my trying to convince local libraries to purchase sets
of guides for LibreOffice, I am often asked if there is a whole set that
they can purchase. The answer thus far from me has been no. Having a
full 7.2 would greatly help in promoting the guides as complete sets to
libraries. I know that is quite challenging, but, most helpful for the
marketing of LibreOffice docs if a full set is available.

Thanks to all of you for your monumental work on getting these guides
out in such order. Truly amazing!

Cheers,

Marc
LibreWaterloo.ca support group lead in Canada

On 2021-11-22 05 h 44, Jean Weber wrote:
> I agree, and I suggest 7.2. It would be nice to have a complete set of
> guides branded for the same release. If Peter does Draw and Steve does Base
> and someone (who?) does Math, we could have a full set for 7.2.
>
> Jean
>
> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 20:13 Olivier Hallot 
> wrote:
>
>> HI
>>  From a standpoint of keeping our guides in synch with the software
>> version and branding, I think it is advisable to publish a 7.x release
>> of the Base Guide, even with minor feature updates.
>>
>> Regards
>> Olivier
>>
>> Em 22/11/2021 06:22, Robert Großkopf escreveu:
>>> Hi Steve,
>>>
>>> there has nothing been changed in Base in LO 7.*. Only thing which
>>> should be part of the description: Since LO 6.4.3 Firebird has been set
>>> back to experimental feartures. So you could only create a new Firebird
>>> dabase when "experimental features" are choosen.
>>>
>>> Don't know the whole content of the Guide but could be the feature "Auto
>>> Grow" in reports, introduced since LO 6.4, is also missing.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Steve Fanning]

Hello Team,

Many thanks for the offers of help with updating the Base Guide to LO 7.2.

I have created the folder structure in NextCloud, included a tracking 
spreadsheet, applied the LO 7 template to all ODT files, and placed 
those files in the Work in Progress folder. I have also checked out 
BG7200 Preface to update it. Meanwhile Jean is proposing some updates to 
Chapter 7 and so others would be better avoiding that chapter for the 
moment.


The task could take a long time if one person updates all chapters, and 
it would be helpful if others could select chapters for which they can 
perform the update. Since the software hasn’t changed much since the 6.4 
Base Guide was published, this shouldn’t be more complicated than your 
normal review activities (e.g. does the software accurately describe 
what Base does; does the text make sense; etc). Please consider doing 
some updates!


One systematic problem I have noticed is that the figures need some work 
throughout the document. Some appear to have been edited with photo 
editing software and many don’t have captions. I will regenerate a 
complete set of figures for the document and insert them into the 
chapters later – doing it that way will ensure a consistent appearance. 
However, please could those updating chapters add captions where they 
are missing.


I will review all updates and comments, as I have when updating the Calc 
Guide.


Good luck to all!

Regards,

Steve


On 22/11/2021 08:16, Steve Fanning wrote:

Hello everybody.

All our guides now reflect LibreOffice 7, apart from the Base Guide 
which currently describes LibreOffice 6.4. As far as I can see, nobody 
is working on an update to the Base Guide but please correct me if 
this assumption is wrong.


As discussed at the most recent Documentation Team meeting, I propose 
to start updating the Base Guide so that it reflects either 7.2 or 7.3 
(depending how long the update takes).


I do not claim to be particularly knowledgeable about Base, but I can 
read the document and check its text and figures against the software. 
I expect the update to be mostly cosmetic because the various release 
notes list only a few changes.


If anybody is interested in helping with this update, please let us 
know via this mailing list. All assistance will be extremely welcome!


Regards,

Steve




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Robert Großkopf]

Hi Jean, hi Steve,

> Can we identify portions of the German book about Firebird that could
> be translated and go into the English version? Or are the books too
> different now?

Have a look at the chapter "Tabellen"→"Direkte Eingabe von SQL-Befehlen"
of "Base Handbuch 7.2"
(https://de.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/). I have integrated
the difference of HSQLDB and Firebird for every SQL-code written there.
I marked all with green colored "HSQLDB", which will work with HSQLDB
and all with green colored "FIREBIRD", which will work in Firebird. Also
the parts, which won't work, were marked red colored and cancelled.

There is another chapter "Abfragen"→"Abfrageerweiterungen im SQL-Modus"
which will show many of this differences between HSQLDB and Firebird..

The English guide will ha a chapter "Appendix B", which won't appear
here. It has been integrated by me in "Appendix A". There is the same
structure for Functions and data types. I marked it the same with
"HSQLDB" and "Firebird".

I haven't removed much content to the Base Handbuch. I only added new
content. So the structure of the Base Handbuch will be the same as the
structure of the Base Guide. One new chapter I have seen directly was
the chapter about SQLite - 1 page - in chapter "Datenbanken erstellen".
There are many more chapters like the chapter about charts in forms or
gridcontrols in dialogs. But all this isn't essential for showing the
difference between Firebird and HSQLDB.

Regards

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Jean Weber]

I have now checked Chapter 7 of the Base Guide, which covers (among
other things) the Mail Merge function, which uses Writer. There have
been some changes: relatively minor, involving a few of the Mail Merge
dialogs and including at least one extra function. I can update these
in the BG chapter using material from the WG chapter. Someone else
(perhaps you) will need to do the part of BG Ch7 on Calc.

I also think there may have been a minor issue with one of the sample
databases, but I will have to check on that and get back to you.

Jean

On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 8:32 PM Jean Weber  wrote:
>
> I think there may be some changes in Writer that might affect the discussion 
> of using Base with Writer. I’ll take a look.
>
> Jean
>
> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 18:17 Steve Fanning  
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everybody.
>>
>> All our guides now reflect LibreOffice 7, apart from the Base Guide
>> which currently describes LibreOffice 6.4. As far as I can see, nobody
>> is working on an update to the Base Guide but please correct me if this
>> assumption is wrong.
>>
>> As discussed at the most recent Documentation Team meeting, I propose to
>> start updating the Base Guide so that it reflects either 7.2 or 7.3
>> (depending how long the update takes).
>>
>> I do not claim to be particularly knowledgeable about Base, but I can
>> read the document and check its text and figures against the software. I
>> expect the update to be mostly cosmetic because the various release
>> notes list only a few changes.
>>
>> If anybody is interested in helping with this update, please let us know
>> via this mailing list. All assistance will be extremely welcome!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Steve

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Jean Weber]

Robert,
Can we identify portions of the German book about Firebird that could
be translated and go into the English version? Or are the books too
different now?

Steve, FYI the English Base Guide started out as a translation of the
German Base Handbuch; it has been revised and portions rewritten since
then. But once or twice, several years ago, new or changed parts of
the German book were inserted into the English book, translated (by
various people, plus Google), and edited (often by me). I think it
worked well. But if the books have diverged too much, this may not be
practical.

Jean

On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 6:16 AM Robert Großkopf
 wrote:
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> creating a new internal Firebird database has been set to experimental.
> Using the created Firebird database isn't experimental. So there are
> many people, who had created such a database (thinking HSQLDB will be
> deprecated) and won't notice any difference to versions before LO 6.4.3.
>
> We need a description of Firebird for this people, but having a look at
> the English Guide there is not much description for Firebird. Only an
> Appendix B, which shows the difference betwenn HSQLDB and Firebird.
> German "Base Handbuch" contains many more descrition about Firebird, but
> another translation form German to English won't be a good idea.
>
> Regards
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Felipe Viggiano de Souza]

Hello everyone,

Congratulations to Steve, Peter and everyone involved on the recent 
published guides! Very nice!!



Steve,

I do not have much experience with LO Base, but I can help with the reviews!


Best regards,

Felipe Viggiano



Em 22/11/2021 05:16, Steve Fanning escreveu:

Hello everybody.

All our guides now reflect LibreOffice 7, apart from the Base Guide 
which currently describes LibreOffice 6.4. As far as I can see, nobody 
is working on an update to the Base Guide but please correct me if 
this assumption is wrong.


As discussed at the most recent Documentation Team meeting, I propose 
to start updating the Base Guide so that it reflects either 7.2 or 7.3 
(depending how long the update takes).


I do not claim to be particularly knowledgeable about Base, but I can 
read the document and check its text and figures against the software. 
I expect the update to be mostly cosmetic because the various release 
notes list only a few changes.


If anybody is interested in helping with this update, please let us 
know via this mailing list. All assistance will be extremely welcome!


Regards,

Steve




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Steve Fanning]

Hi Robert,

Thanks for that and apologies for my daft questions (I'm not always 
aware of the history of the project).


I'll give some more thought to improving this area in the (English) Base 
Guide, although I probably won't be able to do much during this 
iteration. I do, however, believe passionately that we should not be 
using the guides to highlight implementation problems, bugs, and 
instability!


Translating German materials doesn't sound a great idea for me - it 
would be too big a step for my schoolboy German (even with the help of 
Google Translate).


Based on what you've read in the German "Base Handbuch", are there any 
particular areas that we might be able to improve in the Base Guide by 
extracting information from the Firebird 3.0 documentation 
(https://firebirdsql.org/en/reference-manuals/)?


Regards,

Steve


On 22/11/2021 20:15, Robert Großkopf wrote:

Hi Steve,

creating a new internal Firebird database has been set to experimental.
Using the created Firebird database isn't experimental. So there are
many people, who had created such a database (thinking HSQLDB will be
deprecated) and won't notice any difference to versions before LO 6.4.3.

We need a description of Firebird for this people, but having a look at
the English Guide there is not much description for Firebird. Only an
Appendix B, which shows the difference betwenn HSQLDB and Firebird.
German "Base Handbuch" contains many more descrition about Firebird, but
another translation form German to English won't be a good idea.

Regards

Robert


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Robert Großkopf]

Hi Steve,

creating a new internal Firebird database has been set to experimental.
Using the created Firebird database isn't experimental. So there are
many people, who had created such a database (thinking HSQLDB will be
deprecated) and won't notice any difference to versions before LO 6.4.3.

We need a description of Firebird for this people, but having a look at
the English Guide there is not much description for Firebird. Only an
Appendix B, which shows the difference betwenn HSQLDB and Firebird.
German "Base Handbuch" contains many more descrition about Firebird, but
another translation form German to English won't be a good idea.

Regards

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Steve Fanning]

Hello everybody,

In my experience so far working within the Documentation Team, we don't 
tend to describe experimental features within the guides.Therefore, 
given its current status, would I be better off removing discussion of 
the internal Firebird engine from the 7.2 Base Guide?


This would avoid references to a "large number of bugs", "instability" 
and warnings to "be extremely careful here". These don't read well when 
trying to convince users that LO is a quality product.


The material could easily be re-instated later, if and when Firebird is 
promoted from experimental to operational.


Any opinions please?

Regards,

Steve



On 22/11/2021 09:22, Robert Großkopf wrote:

Hi Steve,

there has nothing been changed in Base in LO 7.*. Only thing which
should be part of the description: Since LO 6.4.3 Firebird has been set
back to experimental feartures. So you could only create a new Firebird
dabase when "experimental features" are choosen.

Don't know the whole content of the Guide but could be the feature "Auto
Grow" in reports, introduced since LO 6.4, is also missing.

Regards

Robert


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Rafael Lima]

Hi everyone!

An update to the Base Guide is surely needed. You can count on me for
reviewing chapters.

Rafael


On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 7:46 AM Jean Weber  wrote:

> I agree, and I suggest 7.2. It would be nice to have a complete set of
> guides branded for the same release. If Peter does Draw and Steve does Base
> and someone (who?) does Math, we could have a full set for 7.2.
>
> Jean
>
> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 20:13 Olivier Hallot <
> olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org>
> wrote:
>
> > HI
> >  From a standpoint of keeping our guides in synch with the software
> > version and branding, I think it is advisable to publish a 7.x release
> > of the Base Guide, even with minor feature updates.
> >
> > Regards
> > Olivier
> >
> > Em 22/11/2021 06:22, Robert Großkopf escreveu:
> > > Hi Steve,
> > >
> > > there has nothing been changed in Base in LO 7.*. Only thing which
> > > should be part of the description: Since LO 6.4.3 Firebird has been set
> > > back to experimental feartures. So you could only create a new Firebird
> > > dabase when "experimental features" are choosen.
> > >
> > > Don't know the whole content of the Guide but could be the feature
> "Auto
> > > Grow" in reports, introduced since LO 6.4, is also missing.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Jean Weber]

I agree, and I suggest 7.2. It would be nice to have a complete set of
guides branded for the same release. If Peter does Draw and Steve does Base
and someone (who?) does Math, we could have a full set for 7.2.

Jean

On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 20:13 Olivier Hallot 
wrote:

> HI
>  From a standpoint of keeping our guides in synch with the software
> version and branding, I think it is advisable to publish a 7.x release
> of the Base Guide, even with minor feature updates.
>
> Regards
> Olivier
>
> Em 22/11/2021 06:22, Robert Großkopf escreveu:
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > there has nothing been changed in Base in LO 7.*. Only thing which
> > should be part of the description: Since LO 6.4.3 Firebird has been set
> > back to experimental feartures. So you could only create a new Firebird
> > dabase when "experimental features" are choosen.
> >
> > Don't know the whole content of the Guide but could be the feature "Auto
> > Grow" in reports, introduced since LO 6.4, is also missing.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Robert
> >
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Jean Weber]

I think there may be some changes in Writer that might affect the
discussion of using Base with Writer. I’ll take a look.

Jean

On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 18:17 Steve Fanning 
wrote:

> Hello everybody.
>
> All our guides now reflect LibreOffice 7, apart from the Base Guide
> which currently describes LibreOffice 6.4. As far as I can see, nobody
> is working on an update to the Base Guide but please correct me if this
> assumption is wrong.
>
> As discussed at the most recent Documentation Team meeting, I propose to
> start updating the Base Guide so that it reflects either 7.2 or 7.3
> (depending how long the update takes).
>
> I do not claim to be particularly knowledgeable about Base, but I can
> read the document and check its text and figures against the software. I
> expect the update to be mostly cosmetic because the various release
> notes list only a few changes.
>
> If anybody is interested in helping with this update, please let us know
> via this mailing list. All assistance will be extremely welcome!
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Olivier Hallot]

HI
From a standpoint of keeping our guides in synch with the software 
version and branding, I think it is advisable to publish a 7.x release 
of the Base Guide, even with minor feature updates.


Regards
Olivier

Em 22/11/2021 06:22, Robert Großkopf escreveu:

Hi Steve,

there has nothing been changed in Base in LO 7.*. Only thing which
should be part of the description: Since LO 6.4.3 Firebird has been set
back to experimental feartures. So you could only create a new Firebird
dabase when "experimental features" are choosen.

Don't know the whole content of the Guide but could be the feature "Auto
Grow" in reports, introduced since LO 6.4, is also missing.

Regards

Robert



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Robert Großkopf]

Hi Steve,

there has nothing been changed in Base in LO 7.*. Only thing which
should be part of the description: Since LO 6.4.3 Firebird has been set
back to experimental feartures. So you could only create a new Firebird
dabase when "experimental features" are choosen.

Don't know the whole content of the Guide but could be the feature "Auto
Grow" in reports, introduced since LO 6.4, is also missing.

Regards

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[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Steve Fanning]

Hello everybody.

All our guides now reflect LibreOffice 7, apart from the Base Guide 
which currently describes LibreOffice 6.4. As far as I can see, nobody 
is working on an update to the Base Guide but please correct me if this 
assumption is wrong.


As discussed at the most recent Documentation Team meeting, I propose to 
start updating the Base Guide so that it reflects either 7.2 or 7.3 
(depending how long the update takes).


I do not claim to be particularly knowledgeable about Base, but I can 
read the document and check its text and figures against the software. I 
expect the update to be mostly cosmetic because the various release 
notes list only a few changes.


If anybody is interested in helping with this update, please let us know 
via this mailing list. All assistance will be extremely welcome!


Regards,

Steve


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[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide 6.4

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Everybody,
I have prepared the full book for Base Guide 6.4 and the pdf can be
downloaded from:- https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/Kixjzraq7kQ24Rw
This is the first time I prepared a full book, so I might have made many
mistakes. Please check it for any mistakes.
Pulkit Krishna

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide 6.4 or 7.0

[Jean-Pierre Ledure]

Just a remark : as from 6.4 Access2Base may be executed from Python scripts.

I would like to add a few alineas about that at the end of the section 
about A2B (except if you consider that a book about macros should be 
limited to Basic ?).


Thanks.
Jean-Pierre

Le 5/05/20 à 05:34, Jean Weber a écrit :

I agree with the suggestion to do a quick update from v6.2 to v6.4,
with only one review necessary.
Jean

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:05 PM Pulkit Krishna  wrote:

Now that the Base Guide 6.2 has been published, I am thinking about the
next version of Base Guide. As it has been decided that we would rewrite
the complete Base Guide for version 7.0, so it would take time. Since v6.4
has got almost no change in Base, so I propose that all the chapters
shouldn't go for 2 reviews. Only the chapters with significant changes
should go for the two review system. Rest of the chapters can be just
updated by me and declared as published. They can be checked for formatting
errors if anyone wants but they should be quick.This will publish the 6.4
book quickly and would give us more time to work on 7.0 book. Another way
can be that we simply ommit the v6.4 book. I don't want to go with the
second way for a reason:- All the guides including GS, WG, CG, DG, IG, MG
are going to have a v6.4(I am not sure about the impress book). Since 6.4
is the last member of 6.x series, so it would be good if every guide has a
version 6.4. So, Even if we have no change in Base in 6.4, we should
publish it. For v7.0, I have a long plan which I will send in an seperate
email.
Pulkit Krishna


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide 6.4 or 7.0

[Jean Weber]

I agree with the suggestion to do a quick update from v6.2 to v6.4,
with only one review necessary.
Jean

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:05 PM Pulkit Krishna  wrote:
>
> Now that the Base Guide 6.2 has been published, I am thinking about the
> next version of Base Guide. As it has been decided that we would rewrite
> the complete Base Guide for version 7.0, so it would take time. Since v6.4
> has got almost no change in Base, so I propose that all the chapters
> shouldn't go for 2 reviews. Only the chapters with significant changes
> should go for the two review system. Rest of the chapters can be just
> updated by me and declared as published. They can be checked for formatting
> errors if anyone wants but they should be quick.This will publish the 6.4
> book quickly and would give us more time to work on 7.0 book. Another way
> can be that we simply ommit the v6.4 book. I don't want to go with the
> second way for a reason:- All the guides including GS, WG, CG, DG, IG, MG
> are going to have a v6.4(I am not sure about the impress book). Since 6.4
> is the last member of 6.x series, so it would be good if every guide has a
> version 6.4. So, Even if we have no change in Base in 6.4, we should
> publish it. For v7.0, I have a long plan which I will send in an seperate
> email.
> Pulkit Krishna

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[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide 6.4 or 7.0

[Pulkit Krishna]

Now that the Base Guide 6.2 has been published, I am thinking about the
next version of Base Guide. As it has been decided that we would rewrite
the complete Base Guide for version 7.0, so it would take time. Since v6.4
has got almost no change in Base, so I propose that all the chapters
shouldn't go for 2 reviews. Only the chapters with significant changes
should go for the two review system. Rest of the chapters can be just
updated by me and declared as published. They can be checked for formatting
errors if anyone wants but they should be quick.This will publish the 6.4
book quickly and would give us more time to work on 7.0 book. Another way
can be that we simply ommit the v6.4 book. I don't want to go with the
second way for a reason:- All the guides including GS, WG, CG, DG, IG, MG
are going to have a v6.4(I am not sure about the impress book). Since 6.4
is the last member of 6.x series, so it would be good if every guide has a
version 6.4. So, Even if we have no change in Base in 6.4, we should
publish it. For v7.0, I have a long plan which I will send in an seperate
email.
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[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide 6.2

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Everybody,
I have moved chapter 9 of the Base Guide to published folder. I have
updated the spreadsheet.

Jean: I have corrected all the contents on which you commented. You can now
compile the final book. I am looking forward to it.
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide 6.2 Ch9 Macros

[Pulkit Krishna]

Thanks Jean, I will take a look.
Pulkit Krishna


On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 6:13 AM Jean Weber  wrote:

> I have finished formatting Chapter 9, Macros. I corrected many small
> typos and other errors but did not record those.
> I did record a bigger change to the info on customizing a toolbar in
> the "Securing your database" section (p. 64), which had an out of date
> image of the Customize dialog.
> I also left several questions about things I did not understand.
> The file is in the Feedback folder for BG6.2.
>
> I will work on Chapter 7 now.
>
> Jean
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:12 PM Pulkit Krishna
>  wrote:
> >
> > Hello Everybody,
> > The 2nd review of macros chapter has been done by  jean-Pierre Ledure.
> Jean
> > Webber can now take it for formatting. That would not take more than 2
> > days, so I think the base guide 6.2 would be published in the first week
> of
> > may.
> > Pulkit Krishna
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide 6.2 Chapter 7

[Jean Weber]

I have done final formatting/reviewing/editing of Chapter 7 and placed
it in the Published folder. I tidied up some of the English, mainly
typos and some missing words.
I will start compiling the full book and drop in Chapter 9 when it is finished.

Jean

On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 12:18 PM Pulkit Krishna
 wrote:
>
> Hello Everybody,
> I have taken a look at the file BG6207 reviewed by Dan. When he wrote that
> he has rewritten the whole section of mailmerge due to the bug of
> salutation, then I thought that he meant about substitute of the mailmerge
> wizard or a different set of steps which does not include salutation. But
> he has not done so and has included a not to address that bug. I have no
> problem with that. Infact I also suggested this I think. I have moved the
> chapter to the drafts folder after accepting all the changes.
>
> Jean: Now, you can take both chapter 9 and 7 from drafts folder, review
> them, upload it to the published folder and compile the final book. I think
> you have downloaded the file of ch.7 from the feedback folder. Then, FYI I
> have not made any change in that file, I have just accepted all the
> changes. So, you can continue using that file for your review also.
> Pulkit Krishna

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide 6.2 Ch9 Macros

[Jean Weber]

I have finished formatting Chapter 9, Macros. I corrected many small
typos and other errors but did not record those.
I did record a bigger change to the info on customizing a toolbar in
the "Securing your database" section (p. 64), which had an out of date
image of the Customize dialog.
I also left several questions about things I did not understand.
The file is in the Feedback folder for BG6.2.

I will work on Chapter 7 now.

Jean

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:12 PM Pulkit Krishna
 wrote:
>
> Hello Everybody,
> The 2nd review of macros chapter has been done by  jean-Pierre Ledure. Jean
> Webber can now take it for formatting. That would not take more than 2
> days, so I think the base guide 6.2 would be published in the first week of
> may.
> Pulkit Krishna
>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Robert,
That is what Dan hsa did. When he said that he had rewritten thn I also got
confused. But he has done nice work. The file has now been selected as
final and Jean is working on formmating now.
Pulkit Krishna


On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 11:25 AM Robert Großkopf 
wrote:

> Hi Dan,
> >
> > I know that I got very discussed trying to make it work until the bug
> > was reported to me. I just do not want anyone else to have to go through
> > what I did without getting the results they expect.
>
> So give a hint for the buggy behavior. In the Handbuch there are tables
> called HINWEIS. I would prefer to write down the buggy behavior there.
>
> For example another buggy behavior, which appeared and disappeared in
> LO-Versions (and in AOO): Report-Builder could show charts, but there
> have been versions, where no charts could be shown. So I have written a
> special chapter for error sources in Report Builder. But the chapter for
> charts has been there the whole time.
>
> Regards
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Robert Großkopf]

Hi Dan,
> 
> I know that I got very discussed trying to make it work until the bug
> was reported to me. I just do not want anyone else to have to go through
> what I did without getting the results they expect.

So give a hint for the buggy behavior. In the Handbuch there are tables
called HINWEIS. I would prefer to write down the buggy behavior there.

For example another buggy behavior, which appeared and disappeared in
LO-Versions (and in AOO): Report-Builder could show charts, but there
have been versions, where no charts could be shown. So I have written a
special chapter for error sources in Report Builder. But the chapter for
charts has been there the whole time.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide 6.2

[Jean Weber]

OK will do. Jean

On Fri, 1 May 2020 at 12:18 Pulkit Krishna 
wrote:

> Hello Everybody,
> I have taken a look at the file BG6207 reviewed by Dan. When he wrote that
> he has rewritten the whole section of mailmerge due to the bug of
> salutation, then I thought that he meant about substitute of the mailmerge
> wizard or a different set of steps which does not include salutation. But
> he has not done so and has included a not to address that bug. I have no
> problem with that. Infact I also suggested this I think. I have moved the
> chapter to the drafts folder after accepting all the changes.
>
> Jean: Now, you can take both chapter 9 and 7 from drafts folder, review
> them, upload it to the published folder and compile the final book. I think
> you have downloaded the file of ch.7 from the feedback folder. Then, FYI I
> have not made any change in that file, I have just accepted all the
> changes. So, you can continue using that file for your review also.
> Pulkit Krishna
>
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 7:36 AM Pulkit Krishna 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello Jean,
> > Sorry for arguing. I also have taken the note of your name's spelling.
> > But, can you wait for a day before you take BG6207? I want to look at to
> > first. Then you can review it once again then compile the final book.
> > Pulkit Krishna
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 7:33 AM Pulkit Krishna  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Jean,
> >> Sorry for arguing. I also have taken the note of your name's spelling.
> >> But, can you wait for a day before you take BG6207? I wante to look at
> >> ot first.
> >> Pulkit Krishna
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 6:30 AM Jean Weber  wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have taken this chapter (BG6209) to work on the formatting and check
> >>> the English.
> >>> I will also look at BG6207, which Dan has been discussing in another
> >>> thread. I agree with Dan that the limitation on personalized
> >>> salutations should be mentioned.
> >>>
> >>> When I have finished with both chapters and everyone has stopped
> >>> arguing about them, shall I compile the book?
> >>> P.S. Please note the correct spelling of my surname.
> >>>
> >>> Jean Weber
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:12 PM Pulkit Krishna
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Hello Everybody,
> >>> > The 2nd review of macros chapter has been done by  jean-Pierre
> Ledure.
> >>> Jean
> >>> > Webber can now take it for formatting. That would not take more than
> 2
> >>> > days, so I think the base guide 6.2 would be published in the first
> >>> week of
> >>> > may.
> >>> > Pulkit Krishna
> >>>
> >>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide 6.2

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Everybody,
I have taken a look at the file BG6207 reviewed by Dan. When he wrote that
he has rewritten the whole section of mailmerge due to the bug of
salutation, then I thought that he meant about substitute of the mailmerge
wizard or a different set of steps which does not include salutation. But
he has not done so and has included a not to address that bug. I have no
problem with that. Infact I also suggested this I think. I have moved the
chapter to the drafts folder after accepting all the changes.

Jean: Now, you can take both chapter 9 and 7 from drafts folder, review
them, upload it to the published folder and compile the final book. I think
you have downloaded the file of ch.7 from the feedback folder. Then, FYI I
have not made any change in that file, I have just accepted all the
changes. So, you can continue using that file for your review also.
Pulkit Krishna


On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 7:36 AM Pulkit Krishna 
wrote:

> Hello Jean,
> Sorry for arguing. I also have taken the note of your name's spelling.
> But, can you wait for a day before you take BG6207? I want to look at to
> first. Then you can review it once again then compile the final book.
> Pulkit Krishna
>
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 7:33 AM Pulkit Krishna 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Jean,
>> Sorry for arguing. I also have taken the note of your name's spelling.
>> But, can you wait for a day before you take BG6207? I wante to look at
>> ot first.
>> Pulkit Krishna
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 6:30 AM Jean Weber  wrote:
>>
>>> I have taken this chapter (BG6209) to work on the formatting and check
>>> the English.
>>> I will also look at BG6207, which Dan has been discussing in another
>>> thread. I agree with Dan that the limitation on personalized
>>> salutations should be mentioned.
>>>
>>> When I have finished with both chapters and everyone has stopped
>>> arguing about them, shall I compile the book?
>>> P.S. Please note the correct spelling of my surname.
>>>
>>> Jean Weber
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:12 PM Pulkit Krishna
>>>  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hello Everybody,
>>> > The 2nd review of macros chapter has been done by  jean-Pierre Ledure.
>>> Jean
>>> > Webber can now take it for formatting. That would not take more than 2
>>> > days, so I think the base guide 6.2 would be published in the first
>>> week of
>>> > may.
>>> > Pulkit Krishna
>>>
>>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide 6.2

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Jean,
Sorry for arguing. I also have taken the note of your name's spelling. But,
can you wait for a day before you take BG6207? I want to look at to first.
Then you can review it once again then compile the final book.
Pulkit Krishna


On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 7:33 AM Pulkit Krishna 
wrote:

> Hello Jean,
> Sorry for arguing. I also have taken the note of your name's spelling.
> But, can you wait for a day before you take BG6207? I wante to look at
> ot first.
> Pulkit Krishna
>
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 6:30 AM Jean Weber  wrote:
>
>> I have taken this chapter (BG6209) to work on the formatting and check
>> the English.
>> I will also look at BG6207, which Dan has been discussing in another
>> thread. I agree with Dan that the limitation on personalized
>> salutations should be mentioned.
>>
>> When I have finished with both chapters and everyone has stopped
>> arguing about them, shall I compile the book?
>> P.S. Please note the correct spelling of my surname.
>>
>> Jean Weber
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:12 PM Pulkit Krishna
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello Everybody,
>> > The 2nd review of macros chapter has been done by  jean-Pierre Ledure.
>> Jean
>> > Webber can now take it for formatting. That would not take more than 2
>> > days, so I think the base guide 6.2 would be published in the first
>> week of
>> > may.
>> > Pulkit Krishna
>>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide 6.2

[Jean Weber]

I have taken this chapter (BG6209) to work on the formatting and check
the English.
I will also look at BG6207, which Dan has been discussing in another
thread. I agree with Dan that the limitation on personalized
salutations should be mentioned.

When I have finished with both chapters and everyone has stopped
arguing about them, shall I compile the book?
P.S. Please note the correct spelling of my surname.

Jean Weber


On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:12 PM Pulkit Krishna
 wrote:
>
> Hello Everybody,
> The 2nd review of macros chapter has been done by  jean-Pierre Ledure. Jean
> Webber can now take it for formatting. That would not take more than 2
> days, so I think the base guide 6.2 would be published in the first week of
> may.
> Pulkit Krishna

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Dan Lewis]

On 4/30/20 10:43, Robert Großkopf wrote:

Hi Dan,


After reading Jean's email about the bug that exists on step 3 of the
Mail Merge wizard, I have decided that that part of chapter 7 needs to
be rewritten which I have done today. I am uploading it to the feedback
folder for your consideration. Now I will get back to work on GS6408.

Do I understand it the right way? There is a bug, so it doesen't work in
this special version. And now the content should be written without this
feature, because it has been lost by the buggy behaviour?

If I would do this for the whole Base-Handbuch I have a lot to do. There
is more than one feature, which isn't working in LO at this moment, but
described as it has been planned to work.

I would only give a hint: There is a buggy behavior at this moment, but
could be it is working with the version you use...

Regards

Robert


  My problem with this bug is that it has been in existence since 2018, 
perhaps 2017. It does not work for 6.2.6.1, 6.2.8.2, 6.3.6.2, nor for 
6.4.3.2. At least not for the Debian versions. So, possibly it does not 
work with Debian versions even for the 5.x.x. It does not work for MacOS 
according to Jean.


   The thing is that the Mail Merge wizard works fine when a person 
does not select a personal salutation. (Again, I have verified this with 
several of the versions I mentioned, trying several times in 
successions.) At the very least, mention should be made of what versions 
of LO are affected as well as giving a simple solution for those who 
like myself use a version that are affected.


I know that I got very discussed trying to make it work until the bug 
was reported to me. I just do not want anyone else to have to go through 
what I did without getting the results they expect.


Dan


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Robert Großkopf]

Hi Pulkit,

> I agree with Robert. Oliver said that we should write believing that the
> bugs are non existent. So I propose to let the chapter as it is. By the way
> Robert, this may intrest you:-
> There are only 4 steps in mailmerge from v6.2 but the handbauch gives 8
> steps.

I will have a look at this for the next edition.

If you are planning to write an edition for LO 6.4.*: I would give a
hint Firebird couldn't be choosen as database since LO 6.4.3.2, if
experimental features are set to "On".

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Pulkit Krishna]

I agree with Robert. Oliver said that we should write believing that the
bugs are non existent. So I propose to let the chapter as it is. By the way
Robert, this may intrest you:-
There are only 4 steps in mailmerge from v6.2 but the handbauch gives 8
steps.

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 20:13 Robert Großkopf 
wrote:

> Hi Dan,
>
> > After reading Jean's email about the bug that exists on step 3 of the
> > Mail Merge wizard, I have decided that that part of chapter 7 needs to
> > be rewritten which I have done today. I am uploading it to the feedback
> > folder for your consideration. Now I will get back to work on GS6408.
>
> Do I understand it the right way? There is a bug, so it doesen't work in
> this special version. And now the content should be written without this
> feature, because it has been lost by the buggy behaviour?
>
> If I would do this for the whole Base-Handbuch I have a lot to do. There
> is more than one feature, which isn't working in LO at this moment, but
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>
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> could be it is working with the version you use...
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Robert Großkopf]

Hi Dan,

> After reading Jean's email about the bug that exists on step 3 of the
> Mail Merge wizard, I have decided that that part of chapter 7 needs to
> be rewritten which I have done today. I am uploading it to the feedback
> folder for your consideration. Now I will get back to work on GS6408.

Do I understand it the right way? There is a bug, so it doesen't work in
this special version. And now the content should be written without this
feature, because it has been lost by the buggy behaviour?

If I would do this for the whole Base-Handbuch I have a lot to do. There
is more than one feature, which isn't working in LO at this moment, but
described as it has been planned to work.

I would only give a hint: There is a buggy behavior at this moment, but
could be it is working with the version you use...

Regards

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Dan Lewis]

After reading Jean's email about the bug that exists on step 3 of the 
Mail Merge wizard, I have decided that that part of chapter 7 needs to 
be rewritten which I have done today. I am uploading it to the feedback 
folder for your consideration. Now I will get back to work on GS6408.


Dan

On 4/29/20 23:53, Pulkit Krishna wrote:

Helo Everybody,
I have put the chapter 7 of base guide 6.2 to its published folder. Now
only 1 chapter left. AHR( I don't know who is it) has done its first
review. Jean-Pierre Ledure from Access2Base has taken it to add Access2Base
documentation. After he is done , Jean Webber can take it for an additional
review to update the styles(the chapter still uses old styles).

The Base Guide 6.2 is going to be published soon I think.
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[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide 6.2

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Everybody,
The 2nd review of macros chapter has been done by  jean-Pierre Ledure. Jean
Webber can now take it for formatting. That would not take more than 2
days, so I think the base guide 6.2 would be published in the first week of
may.
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Jean-Pierre Ledure]

Hi Pulkit,

I have just uploaded a new section about Access2Base in a file named 
BG6209-Macros_JPL_20200430.odt (Draft directory of the 6.2 Base Handbook).


It would probably benefit from a rapid review by a native english writer.

I started from the updates made by AHR (Alain Romedenne).

I never used before the template and the proposed styles. So, adapting 
them to whatever is newer (Jean Webber ?) should improve the result.


Regards.
JPL


Le 30/04/20 à 05:53, Pulkit Krishna a écrit :

Helo Everybody,
I have put the chapter 7 of base guide 6.2 to its published folder. Now
only 1 chapter left. AHR( I don't know who is it) has done its first
review. Jean-Pierre Ledure from Access2Base has taken it to add Access2Base
documentation. After he is done , Jean Webber can take it for an additional
review to update the styles(the chapter still uses old styles).

The Base Guide 6.2 is going to be published soon I think.
Pulkit Krishna



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[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Pulkit Krishna]

Helo Everybody,
I have put the chapter 7 of base guide 6.2 to its published folder. Now
only 1 chapter left. AHR( I don't know who is it) has done its first
review. Jean-Pierre Ledure from Access2Base has taken it to add Access2Base
documentation. After he is done , Jean Webber can take it for an additional
review to update the styles(the chapter still uses old styles).

The Base Guide 6.2 is going to be published soon I think.
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Rob Westein]

I agree!
Next 4 days off so I hope I can work on the Base 7 Guide.

I would like to change the dates in the sample Database for a more 
actual look. Instead of looking at dates from 7 years ago, it would be 
nice if the reader sees more recent (2020) dates on the screenshots.


/Rob


On 23-04-2020 15:19, Pulkit Krishna wrote:

Hello Rob & Jean,
After a discussion with oliver, and as jean suggested, I think we should
edit the base guide in v7 and not in v6.4. We should also let v6.4 be
released. V7 is a major release with rebranding and all. We should make a
good v7 book.
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[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Rob & Jean,
After a discussion with oliver, and as jean suggested, I think we should
edit the base guide in v7 and not in v6.4. We should also let v6.4 be
released. V7 is a major release with rebranding and all. We should make a
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[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide 6.2

[Pulkit Krishna]

A reviewer with windows system and a good knowledge of Base Macros is
needed for review of access2base documentation in base guide. I have not
written this portion yet but I want to make sure there is a reviewer who
can add the screenshots as well. I will copy most of the info from A2B
website as I do not have a windows system to test new documentation on.

Drew: After a discussion with Oliver, I have started this work. I know that
you were doiing this work but you are taking too much time and I wanted the
base guide 6.2 to be released as soon as possible because base guide has
not been updated since v4.0. We will make it error free in version 7.0 If
you want to continue with your work then you can write to me.
Pulkit Krishna

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide Quality and images

[Dan Lewis]

On 4/18/20 10:10, Robert Großkopf wrote:

Hi Rob,

seems I don't understand enough English to get the right words for it.
Could be it is only a problem in the translated book. I have had a look
at the German original and couldn't find any problematic content there.

Regards

Robert


I am not sure that it is in the translation. Here is why:

German version:

Die Feldnamen "Vorname", "Nachname" und "Geburtstag" dürften klar sein. 
Zusätzlich wurde ein Feld mit der Bezeichnung "ID" eingetragen. Dieses 
Feld soll später einen Wert aufnehmen, der die einzigartige Eigenschaft 
eines jeden Datensatzes ist. So ein einzigartiges Schlüsselfeld ist für 
die eingebettete Datenbank notwendig. Ansonsten lassen sich keine 
Datensätze in die Tabelle eingeben. Dieses Schlüsselfeld wird bei 
Datenbanken als «Primärschlüssel» bezeichnet.


Google's translation:

The field names "first name", "last name" and "birthday" should be 
clear. In addition, a field with the name "ID" was entered. This field 
will later hold a value that is the unique property of each record. Such 
a unique key field is necessary for the embedded database. Otherwise, no 
data records can be entered in the table. This key field is referred to 
as “primary key” in databases.


However, this paragraph needs to be rewritten to make it more 
meaningful. As Robert has pointed out, tables can be created in the Base 
GUI. Data can be added to such a table using Tools > SQL. My question to 
Robert is this: How can a table without a primary key be accessed in 
terms of forms, and reports? I know queries can be created with Tools > 
SQL.


Dan


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide Quality and images

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Peter and Rob,
I thought about Peter when I first read Rob's message. Perhaps, if Rob does
the first review of the chapters of the base guide 6.4 then Peter can take
them for their second review and make sure good English is used. That way
both tasks would be fulfilled- database errors would be removed and English
would become good. As for figures I agree with Jean. We should do all this
in the v6.4 not v6.2. We should let v6.2 be published because Base Guide
has not been updated since v4.0 I think. I have already prepared the drafts
of first 6 chapters of v6.4. If Rob can take it for its first review it
would be great. I think Peter, you are busy with Draw guide. Can you manage
the two at once? As for time I think we have much for v6.4. v7.0 is going
to be released in August, so if we complete v6.4 by end of July, and it
would have no or only little mistakes, then I think it wouldn't take more
than a month to update it to v7.0. It depends how base changes in going to
v7.0.
Pulkit Krishna


On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:56 PM Peter Schofield  wrote:

> I do not have the Base skills as I have only cretics very simple databases
> in past. However, I think my English skills are good and could always help.
> The question is time available.
>
> Jean you mentioned figures for Base in one message. To me figures should
> always be numbered and captioned. That way it makes it easier to refer to
> figures.
>
> Regards
> Peter Schofield
> psaut...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> > On 19 Apr 2020, at 02:13, Jean Weber  wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:21 AM Rob Westein  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Robert,
> >>
> >> On 18-04-2020 16:10, Robert Großkopf wrote:
> >>> Hi Rob,
> >>>
> >>> seems I don't understand enough English to get the right words for it.
> >>> Could be it is only a problem in the translated book. I have had a look
> >>> at the German original and couldn't find any problematic content there.
> >> I already thought it was a translation problem... so I hope that some
> >> people with database knowledge will check the text, and not only look at
> >> grammar errors.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Rob
> >
> > For several years, we've been trying to find people who have the
> > knowledge, the time, and the English skills to review and improve the
> > text. I questioned some things in the book while I was reviewing
> > chapters, but my knowledge is limited to quite simple databases.
> >
> > If you (or anyone else) can help with this, we would all be very glad.
> > But perhaps not holding up publication of the v6.x book; instead,
> > working toward a much improved book for LO v7.
> >
> >
> > Jean
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide Quality and images

[Rob Westein]

Hi All,

On 19-04-2020 09:25, Peter Schofield wrote:

I do not have the Base skills as I have only cretics very simple databases in 
past. However, I think my English skills are good and could always help. The 
question is time available.


The same goes for me: Time availability for now I will working on 
the screenshots... and translation of the Sample databases to Dutch for 
the Dutch Base manual.


What is the time planning for the V7 release of the manual?

/Rob



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide Quality and images

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Jean,
Not only you but Dan and Drew have also reviewed the chapters. But Rob is
welcome to do the review of the 6.4 chapters.

Pulkit Krishna

On 19 Apr 2020 5:44 a.m., "Jean Weber"  wrote:

> Because I am mentioned in this discussion, I will respond here. I
> noticed the lack of figure numbers and captions, but I did not
> recommend adding them in the v6.x versions of the book because we were
> in a hurry to get the book done. I was going to suggest that for v7.
>
> Also, my knowledge of databases is fairly limited. I know a lot of
> theory but have little experience beyond very simple ones. I did not
> test everything, and I did question some things, but I would not like
> to say there is "very little chance of error".
>
> Jean
>
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 5:07 PM Pulkit Krishna
> mailto:pulkitkrishn...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >   I do not know if it is important to number all the figures in a
> >   chapter. Anyway Jean does not think so because the chapter was
> >   reviwed by her. The chapter has been reviewed twice and it was
> >   decided that we are not to change the screenshots in v6.2. I am
> >   updating the guide to v6.4. You can take the chapters of v6.4 to
> >   replace the screenshots. Ubuntu would do. The chapter was
> >   reviewed by Dan and Jean. So there is very less chance of error.
> >
> >On 18 Apr 2020 4:39 p.m., "Rob Westein"  >> wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >   I'm a bit worried of the quality of the Base Guide. Due to the
> > >   speed of translating the Base Guide I am afraid that the
> > >   quality of the guide is less than normal.
> > >   [...]
>
> > >   another thing what we have seen in de manual while translating
> > >   it into the Dutch language is the usage of numbered captions
> > >   for images in the manual.
> > >   In "Introduction to Base (6.2)" chapter and only the first 10
> > >   images are having numbered captions and after that it stops...
> > >   why is this?
> > >   Going thru the text It was sometimes not clear which text is
> > >   related to an image
> > >
> > >   Seen this also in the "Creating a Database" chapter.
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide Quality and images

[Jean Weber]

Peter,
For the record: I disagree that *all* figures need a caption (with a figure
number), nor do all figures need a reference in the text, but yes *most* of
them do need one or both.

Jean

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 17:25 Peter Schofield  wrote:

> Jean you mentioned figures for Base in one message. To me figures should
> always be numbered and captioned. That way it makes it easier to refer to
> figures.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide Quality and images

[Peter Schofield]

I do not have the Base skills as I have only cretics very simple databases in 
past. However, I think my English skills are good and could always help. The 
question is time available.

Jean you mentioned figures for Base in one message. To me figures should always 
be numbered and captioned. That way it makes it easier to refer to figures.

Regards
Peter Schofield
psaut...@gmail.com



> On 19 Apr 2020, at 02:13, Jean Weber  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:21 AM Rob Westein  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Robert,
>> 
>> On 18-04-2020 16:10, Robert Großkopf wrote:
>>> Hi Rob,
>>> 
>>> seems I don't understand enough English to get the right words for it.
>>> Could be it is only a problem in the translated book. I have had a look
>>> at the German original and couldn't find any problematic content there.
>> I already thought it was a translation problem... so I hope that some
>> people with database knowledge will check the text, and not only look at
>> grammar errors.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Rob
> 
> For several years, we've been trying to find people who have the
> knowledge, the time, and the English skills to review and improve the
> text. I questioned some things in the book while I was reviewing
> chapters, but my knowledge is limited to quite simple databases.
> 
> If you (or anyone else) can help with this, we would all be very glad.
> But perhaps not holding up publication of the v6.x book; instead,
> working toward a much improved book for LO v7.
> 
> 
> Jean
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide Quality and images

[Jean Weber]

On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:21 AM Rob Westein  wrote:
>
> Hi Robert,
>
> On 18-04-2020 16:10, Robert Großkopf wrote:
> > Hi Rob,
> >
> > seems I don't understand enough English to get the right words for it.
> > Could be it is only a problem in the translated book. I have had a look
> > at the German original and couldn't find any problematic content there.
> I already thought it was a translation problem... so I hope that some
> people with database knowledge will check the text, and not only look at
> grammar errors.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rob

For several years, we've been trying to find people who have the
knowledge, the time, and the English skills to review and improve the
text. I questioned some things in the book while I was reviewing
chapters, but my knowledge is limited to quite simple databases.

If you (or anyone else) can help with this, we would all be very glad.
But perhaps not holding up publication of the v6.x book; instead,
working toward a much improved book for LO v7.


Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide Quality and images

[Jean Weber]

Because I am mentioned in this discussion, I will respond here. I
noticed the lack of figure numbers and captions, but I did not
recommend adding them in the v6.x versions of the book because we were
in a hurry to get the book done. I was going to suggest that for v7.

Also, my knowledge of databases is fairly limited. I know a lot of
theory but have little experience beyond very simple ones. I did not
test everything, and I did question some things, but I would not like
to say there is "very little chance of error".

Jean

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 5:07 PM Pulkit Krishna
mailto:pulkitkrishn...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>   I do not know if it is important to number all the figures in a
>   chapter. Anyway Jean does not think so because the chapter was
>   reviwed by her. The chapter has been reviewed twice and it was
>   decided that we are not to change the screenshots in v6.2. I am
>   updating the guide to v6.4. You can take the chapters of v6.4 to
>   replace the screenshots. Ubuntu would do. The chapter was
>   reviewed by Dan and Jean. So there is very less chance of error.
>
>On 18 Apr 2020 4:39 p.m., "Rob Westein" > wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >   I'm a bit worried of the quality of the Base Guide. Due to the
> >   speed of translating the Base Guide I am afraid that the
> >   quality of the guide is less than normal.
> >   [...]

> >   another thing what we have seen in de manual while translating
> >   it into the Dutch language is the usage of numbered captions
> >   for images in the manual.
> >   In "Introduction to Base (6.2)" chapter and only the first 10
> >   images are having numbered captions and after that it stops...
> >   why is this?
> >   Going thru the text It was sometimes not clear which text is
> >   related to an image
> >
> >   Seen this also in the "Creating a Database" chapter.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide Quality and images

[Rob Westein]

Hi Robert,

On 18-04-2020 16:10, Robert Großkopf wrote:

Hi Rob,

seems I don't understand enough English to get the right words for it.
Could be it is only a problem in the translated book. I have had a look
at the German original and couldn't find any problematic content there.
I already thought it was a translation problem... so I hope that some 
people with database knowledge will check the text, and not only look at 
grammar errors.


Best regards,

Rob


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide Quality and images

[Robert Großkopf]

Hi Rob,

seems I don't understand enough English to get the right words for it.
Could be it is only a problem in the translated book. I have had a look
at the German original and couldn't find any problematic content there.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide Quality and images

[Rob Westein]

On 18-04-2020 14:53, Robert Großkopf wrote:

Hi Rob,

For example at the top on page 14 of "Introduction to Base (6.2)"
chapter it says "The field names forename (first name), surname (last
name), and birthday are likely to be clear. In addition, a field called
ID was added. This field will later take a value which is unique for
each record. A unique key field is necessary for the embedded database.
Otherwise, no records can be entered in the table. This key field is
called the /primary key/ in databases."

The sentence "A unique key field is necessary for the embedded database"
is imho not correct. a table has an unique key (primary key), not
databases.

The database HSQLDB requires this primary key for every tabe - if you
will work with the table in GUI.


You are correct Robert, but the text is saying that a primary key is 
attached to a database (at least that is how I'm reading it) , but a 
primary key is attached to a table!





Also the primary key is used on tables in all sorts of
databases. It is not only valid for Embedded databases.

This is wrong. Have a look at DBase, MySQL or, very simple, have a look
at HSQLDB without using the GUI. You could create tables in this
database without using a primary key and you could also add values to
this tables. The wizard works with this feature.


The text is: "A unique key field is necessary for the embedded database" 
You can better add to the text that Base requires a primary key for 
tables in embedded databases...


Suppose someone without database knowledge reads this text and he or she 
will think that external databases do not use primary keys at all, 
because in the text the emphasis is on Embedded databases.


There for you have to mention that in general database usage a primary 
key can be used (is advised) but not necessary


BTW. Thank you for writing the guide(s), great job, I'm a fan!! I got a 
lot information out of it and also from the early versions like 
importing info from PDF files for example I'm planning to translate 
those samples as well, because it shows us what is possible with Base 
with some little programming!


Thanks!

Rob


Regards

Robert


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide Quality and images

[Robert Großkopf]

And now the example:

Create a table in the internal HSQLDB.
Fields: "forename" and "surname" - both VARCHAR(50)
Save this table with name "table_without_pk", ignore the warning for PK
Go to Tools > SQL
INSERT INTO "table_without_pk" ("forename","surname") VALUES
('Robert','Großkopf')
... and press "Execute" (don't know the name for the button haven't time
to switch to English ...)
One row has been added.

Don't think I haven't written all this content for the Base-Handbuch and
haven't tested. If you think so put it away and write your own.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide Quality and images

[Robert Großkopf]

Hi Pulkit,

>> Also the primary key is used on tables in all sorts of
>> databases. It is not only valid for Embedded databases.
> This line means that primary key is not only used in embedded database but
> also in external Database. You cannot add records to a table using base
> without a primary key, in any database engine, be it external or embedded.

I'm able to do this. Please try it before writing.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide Quality and images

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Robert,
> Also the primary key is used on tables in all sorts of
> databases. It is not only valid for Embedded databases.
This line means that primary key is not only used in embedded database but
also in external Database. You cannot add records to a table using base
without a primary key, in any database engine, be it external or embedded.
Pulkit Krishna


On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 6:24 PM Robert Großkopf 
wrote:

> Hi Rob,
> >
> > For example at the top on page 14 of "Introduction to Base (6.2)"
> > chapter it says "The field names forename (first name), surname (last
> > name), and birthday are likely to be clear. In addition, a field called
> > ID was added. This field will later take a value which is unique for
> > each record. A unique key field is necessary for the embedded database.
> > Otherwise, no records can be entered in the table. This key field is
> > called the /primary key/ in databases."
> >
> > The sentence "A unique key field is necessary for the embedded database"
> > is imho not correct. a table has an unique key (primary key), not
> > databases.
>
> The database HSQLDB requires this primary key for every tabe - if you
> will work with the table in GUI.
>
> > Also the primary key is used on tables in all sorts of
> > databases. It is not only valid for Embedded databases.
>
> This is wrong. Have a look at DBase, MySQL or, very simple, have a look
> at HSQLDB without using the GUI. You could create tables in this
> database without using a primary key and you could also add values to
> this tables. The wizard works with this feature.
>
> Regards
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide Quality and images

[Robert Großkopf]

Hi Rob,
> 
> For example at the top on page 14 of "Introduction to Base (6.2)"
> chapter it says "The field names forename (first name), surname (last
> name), and birthday are likely to be clear. In addition, a field called
> ID was added. This field will later take a value which is unique for
> each record. A unique key field is necessary for the embedded database.
> Otherwise, no records can be entered in the table. This key field is
> called the /primary key/ in databases."
> 
> The sentence "A unique key field is necessary for the embedded database"
> is imho not correct. a table has an unique key (primary key), not
> databases. 

The database HSQLDB requires this primary key for every tabe - if you
will work with the table in GUI.

> Also the primary key is used on tables in all sorts of
> databases. It is not only valid for Embedded databases.

This is wrong. Have a look at DBase, MySQL or, very simple, have a look
at HSQLDB without using the GUI. You could create tables in this
database without using a primary key and you could also add values to
this tables. The wizard works with this feature.

Regards

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide Quality and images

[Rob Westein]

Hello Pulkit,

On 18-04-2020 13:37, Pulkit Krishna wrote:

Hello Rob,
. The chapter was reviewed by Dan and Jean. So there is very less 
chance of error.


I'm a bit disappointed on ignoring my improvements of the text and 
suggestion to have a better look at database-related text...


/Rob




On 18 Apr 2020 4:39 p.m., "Rob Westein" > wrote:


Hi,

I'm a bit worried of the quality of the Base Guide. Due to the
speed of translating the Base Guide I am afraid that the quality
of the guide is less than normal.

For example at the top on page 14 of "Introduction to Base (6.2)"
chapter it says "The field names forename (first name), surname
(last name), and birthday are likely to be clear. In addition, a
field called ID was added. This field will later take a value
which is unique for each record. A unique key field is necessary
for the embedded database. Otherwise, no records can be entered in
the table. This key field is called the /primary key/ in databases."

The sentence "A unique key field is necessary for the embedded
database" is imho not correct. a table has an unique key (primary
key), not databases. Also the primary key is used on tables in all
sorts of databases. It is not only valid for Embedded databases.

I recommend to check the (technical) details in the manual in
order to provide correct info.

another thing what we have seen in de manual while translating it
into the Dutch language is the usage of numbered captions for
images in the manual.
In "Introduction to Base (6.2)" chapter and only the first 10
images are having numbered captions and after that it stops... why
is this?
Going thru the text It was sometimes not clear which text is
related to an image

Seen this also in the "Creating a Database" chapter.

I promissed to redo the screenshots, Is it OK to do them in
Ubuntu? I hope I can keep up the pace

Also the Index of the chapters has to be updated

/Rob






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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide Quality and images

[Rob Westein]

Hi Pulkit,

Maybe I used the wrong words... By index I mean "Table of contents" at 
the beginning of each chaper and book.
If you need to update the table of Contents you choose command "Update 
index" that is where the confusion came from.


/Rob


On 18-04-2020 13:38, Pulkit Krishna wrote:
As foe the index, Jean does not think that it is needed in a pdf book. 
She says it is best not to have an index for now.

Pulkit Krishna


On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 5:07 PM Pulkit Krishna 
mailto:pulkitkrishn...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello Rob,
I do not know if it is important to number all the figures in a
chapter. Anyway Jean does not think so because the chapter was
reviwed by her. The chapter has been reviewed twice and it was
decided that we are not to change the screenshots in v6.2. I am
updating the guide to v6.4. You can take the chapters of v6.4 to
replace the screenshots. Ubuntu would do. The chapter was
reviewed by Dan and Jean. So there is very less chance of error.

On 18 Apr 2020 4:39 p.m., "Rob Westein" mailto:rwest...@planet.nl>> wrote:

Hi,

I'm a bit worried of the quality of the Base Guide. Due to the
speed of translating the Base Guide I am afraid that the
quality of the guide is less than normal.

For example at the top on page 14 of "Introduction to Base
(6.2)" chapter it says "The field names forename (first name),
surname (last name), and birthday are likely to be clear. In
addition, a field called ID was added. This field will later
take a value which is unique for each record. A unique key
field is necessary for the embedded database. Otherwise, no
records can be entered in the table. This key field is called
the /primary key/ in databases."

The sentence "A unique key field is necessary for the embedded
database" is imho not correct. a table has an unique key
(primary key), not databases. Also the primary key is used on
tables in all sorts of databases. It is not only valid for
Embedded databases.

I recommend to check the (technical) details in the manual in
order to provide correct info.

another thing what we have seen in de manual while translating
it into the Dutch language is the usage of numbered captions
for images in the manual.
In "Introduction to Base (6.2)" chapter and only the first 10
images are having numbered captions and after that it stops...
why is this?
Going thru the text It was sometimes not clear which text is
related to an image

Seen this also in the "Creating a Database" chapter.

I promissed to redo the screenshots, Is it OK to do them in
Ubuntu? I hope I can keep up the pace

Also the Index of the chapters has to be updated

/Rob






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[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide Quality and images

[Rob Westein]

Hi,

I'm a bit worried of the quality of the Base Guide. Due to the speed of 
translating the Base Guide I am afraid that the quality of the guide is 
less than normal.


For example at the top on page 14 of "Introduction to Base (6.2)" 
chapter it says "The field names forename (first name), surname (last 
name), and birthday are likely to be clear. In addition, a field called 
ID was added. This field will later take a value which is unique for 
each record. A unique key field is necessary for the embedded database. 
Otherwise, no records can be entered in the table. This key field is 
called the /primary key/ in databases."


The sentence "A unique key field is necessary for the embedded database" 
is imho not correct. a table has an unique key (primary key), not 
databases. Also the primary key is used on tables in all sorts of 
databases. It is not only valid for Embedded databases.


I recommend to check the (technical) details in the manual in order to 
provide correct info.


another thing what we have seen in de manual while translating it into 
the Dutch language is the usage of numbered captions for images in the 
manual.
In "Introduction to Base (6.2)" chapter and only the first 10 images are 
having numbered captions and after that it stops... why is this?
Going thru the text It was sometimes not clear which text is related to 
an image


Seen this also in the "Creating a Database" chapter.

I promissed to redo the screenshots, Is it OK to do them in Ubuntu? I 
hope I can keep up the pace


Also the Index of the chapters has to be updated

/Rob






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[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Everybody,

Base Guide 6.4:-
I have uploaded the first drafts of chapter 3,4 and 5 to the drafts folder.
There are no main changes in these chapters. Just few small changes. Anyone
is welcome to take these chapters including chapter 0-2 for their first
review.

Base Guide 6.2:-
I got an email from Dan via the list asking for some info on a topic in DB
connections. Robert had already responded to it and his answer is correct
so I did no replied. So, I think Dan would complete the review of chapter 7
soon. I have not got any message from Drew for his progress on macros
chapter. We have to wait for him.
Pulkit Krishna

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Pulkit Krishna]

Ok, thanks.

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 02:15 Jean Weber  wrote:

> No, we probably do not need that column for 6.4. And I won’t take the
> chapters until other people have reviewed them.
>
> Jean
>
> On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 at 21:24 Pulkit Krishna 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Jean,
>> Do we need a column called "Has Style been updated?" in Base Guide 6.4
>> tracking spreadsheet? I mean the I am updating Base Guide from its v6.2.
>> You yourself updated the styles of all the chapters except macros of that
>> version. So do we need that column?
>> Pulkit Krishna
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 4:41 PM Pulkit Krishna > >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello Everybody,
>> > While we are waiting for Drew and Dan to complete their reviews on
>> BG6.2,
>> > I have start updating the completed chapters for v6.4. I have uploaded
>> the
>> > drafts of Preface, Chapter 1, and chapter 2 of Base Guide 6.4. Anyone
>> can
>> > take them for their first review. There are not much changes in Preface
>> and
>> > Chapter 1 but in chapter 2, i have added two new sections:-
>> > 1) Connecting to PostgreSQL Directly
>> > 2) I have added the steps to connect to external HSQLDB in chapter 2
>> from
>> > Appendix A. I think they are more appropriate in chapter 2 than in
>> Appendix
>> > A.
>> >
>> > Jean:-
>> > You should not take the chapters for their first review. You can take
>> them
>> > for their second review to ensure that they have the required
>> formatting. I
>> > am saying this because,
>> > Pulkit Krishna
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 5:54 PM Pulkit Krishna <
>> pulkitkrishn...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello Jean,
>> >> I will start the work on libreoffice base guide 6.4 tommorow.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 03:03 Jean Weber  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> While we are waiting for Drew and Dan to complete their reviews on
>> >>> BG6.2, I
>> >>> suggest we start updating the completed chapters for v6.4. I think you
>> >>> said
>> >>> there were not many changes.
>> >>>
>> >>> Jean
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 21:54 Pulkit Krishna <
>> pulkitkrishn...@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > Hello Everybody,
>> >>> > Base Guide Appendix B has been published. Its second review was
>> done by
>> >>> > Randolph Gamo. Now only 2 chapters are left- Macros(which is taken
>> for
>> >>> its
>> >>> > first review by Drew. I think Jean can take it for its second
>> review to
>> >>> > make sure the formatting are correct) and DB connections(which is
>> >>> taken for
>> >>> > its second review by Dan). Both Dand and Drew are taking much time
>> but
>> >>> as
>> >>> > Oliver said in meeting, we cannot pose deadline on volunteers.
>> >>> > Pulkit Krishna
>> >>> >
>>
>>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Jean Weber]

No, we probably do not need that column for 6.4. And I won’t take the
chapters until other people have reviewed them.

Jean

On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 at 21:24 Pulkit Krishna 
wrote:

> Hello Jean,
> Do we need a column called "Has Style been updated?" in Base Guide 6.4
> tracking spreadsheet? I mean the I am updating Base Guide from its v6.2.
> You yourself updated the styles of all the chapters except macros of that
> version. So do we need that column?
> Pulkit Krishna
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 4:41 PM Pulkit Krishna 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello Everybody,
> > While we are waiting for Drew and Dan to complete their reviews on BG6.2,
> > I have start updating the completed chapters for v6.4. I have uploaded
> the
> > drafts of Preface, Chapter 1, and chapter 2 of Base Guide 6.4. Anyone can
> > take them for their first review. There are not much changes in Preface
> and
> > Chapter 1 but in chapter 2, i have added two new sections:-
> > 1) Connecting to PostgreSQL Directly
> > 2) I have added the steps to connect to external HSQLDB in chapter 2 from
> > Appendix A. I think they are more appropriate in chapter 2 than in
> Appendix
> > A.
> >
> > Jean:-
> > You should not take the chapters for their first review. You can take
> them
> > for their second review to ensure that they have the required
> formatting. I
> > am saying this because,
> > Pulkit Krishna
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 5:54 PM Pulkit Krishna <
> pulkitkrishn...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Jean,
> >> I will start the work on libreoffice base guide 6.4 tommorow.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 03:03 Jean Weber  wrote:
> >>
> >>> While we are waiting for Drew and Dan to complete their reviews on
> >>> BG6.2, I
> >>> suggest we start updating the completed chapters for v6.4. I think you
> >>> said
> >>> there were not many changes.
> >>>
> >>> Jean
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 21:54 Pulkit Krishna  >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Hello Everybody,
> >>> > Base Guide Appendix B has been published. Its second review was done
> by
> >>> > Randolph Gamo. Now only 2 chapters are left- Macros(which is taken
> for
> >>> its
> >>> > first review by Drew. I think Jean can take it for its second review
> to
> >>> > make sure the formatting are correct) and DB connections(which is
> >>> taken for
> >>> > its second review by Dan). Both Dand and Drew are taking much time
> but
> >>> as
> >>> > Oliver said in meeting, we cannot pose deadline on volunteers.
> >>> > Pulkit Krishna
> >>> >
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Robert Großkopf]

Hi Pulkit,

> It was my mistake. PostgreSQL was there in v6.2 and I had translated it
> too. I have added Direct connection to firebird in v6.4 not PostgreSQL. 

It has been also part of the Base-Handbuch 6.2. There is a description
how to get an external Firebird file from the internal Firebird.odb.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Robert,
It was my mistake. PostgreSQL was there in v6.2 and I had translated it
too. I have added Direct connection to firebird in v6.4 not PostgreSQL. I
wrote about PSQL by mistake in my last email.

Pulkit Krishna

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020, 18:51 Pulkit Krishna 
wrote:

> I know that there is no change in base since v6.2 other then Report
> Builder and access2base( python support has been added).
> Pulkit Krishna
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 6:49 PM Pulkit Krishna 
> wrote:
>
>> I went to the german docs website and downloaded the base guide 6.2. I
>> think I might have missed that section about direct connection to
>> PostgreSQL. I have added it to v6.4 anyway.
>> Pulkit Krishna
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 6:45 PM Robert Großkopf <
>> rob...@familiegrosskopf.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Pulkit
>>>
>>> > in chapter 2, i have added two new sections:-
>>> > 1) Connecting to PostgreSQL Directly
>>>
>>> Which version did you translate? The direct connetion to PostgreSQL is
>>> part of the Base-Handbuch since LO 4.1.
>>>
>>> The only part, which has been changed sind LO 6.2 (Last version I
>>> uploded to de.libreoffice.org) and LO 6.4, is part of the Report
>>> Builder. There could be added the possibility to auto-grow fields.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Robert Großkopf]

Hi Pulkit

> in chapter 2, i have added two new sections:-
> 1) Connecting to PostgreSQL Directly

Which version did you translate? The direct connetion to PostgreSQL is
part of the Base-Handbuch since LO 4.1.

The only part, which has been changed sind LO 6.2 (Last version I
uploded to de.libreoffice.org) and LO 6.4, is part of the Report
Builder. There could be added the possibility to auto-grow fields.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Jean,
Do we need a column called "Has Style been updated?" in Base Guide 6.4
tracking spreadsheet? I mean the I am updating Base Guide from its v6.2.
You yourself updated the styles of all the chapters except macros of that
version. So do we need that column?
Pulkit Krishna


On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 4:41 PM Pulkit Krishna 
wrote:

> Hello Everybody,
> While we are waiting for Drew and Dan to complete their reviews on BG6.2,
> I have start updating the completed chapters for v6.4. I have uploaded the
> drafts of Preface, Chapter 1, and chapter 2 of Base Guide 6.4. Anyone can
> take them for their first review. There are not much changes in Preface and
> Chapter 1 but in chapter 2, i have added two new sections:-
> 1) Connecting to PostgreSQL Directly
> 2) I have added the steps to connect to external HSQLDB in chapter 2 from
> Appendix A. I think they are more appropriate in chapter 2 than in Appendix
> A.
>
> Jean:-
> You should not take the chapters for their first review. You can take them
> for their second review to ensure that they have the required formatting. I
> am saying this because,
> Pulkit Krishna
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 5:54 PM Pulkit Krishna 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Jean,
>> I will start the work on libreoffice base guide 6.4 tommorow.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 03:03 Jean Weber  wrote:
>>
>>> While we are waiting for Drew and Dan to complete their reviews on
>>> BG6.2, I
>>> suggest we start updating the completed chapters for v6.4. I think you
>>> said
>>> there were not many changes.
>>>
>>> Jean
>>>
>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 21:54 Pulkit Krishna 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hello Everybody,
>>> > Base Guide Appendix B has been published. Its second review was done by
>>> > Randolph Gamo. Now only 2 chapters are left- Macros(which is taken for
>>> its
>>> > first review by Drew. I think Jean can take it for its second review to
>>> > make sure the formatting are correct) and DB connections(which is
>>> taken for
>>> > its second review by Dan). Both Dand and Drew are taking much time but
>>> as
>>> > Oliver said in meeting, we cannot pose deadline on volunteers.
>>> > Pulkit Krishna
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Everybody,
While we are waiting for Drew and Dan to complete their reviews on BG6.2, I
have start updating the completed chapters for v6.4. I have uploaded the
drafts of Preface, Chapter 1, and chapter 2 of Base Guide 6.4. Anyone can
take them for their first review. There are not much changes in Preface and
Chapter 1 but in chapter 2, i have added two new sections:-
1) Connecting to PostgreSQL Directly
2) I have added the steps to connect to external HSQLDB in chapter 2 from
Appendix A. I think they are more appropriate in chapter 2 than in Appendix
A.

Jean:-
You should not take the chapters for their first review. You can take them
for their second review to ensure that they have the required formatting. I
am saying this because,
Pulkit Krishna


On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 5:54 PM Pulkit Krishna 
wrote:

> Hello Jean,
> I will start the work on libreoffice base guide 6.4 tommorow.
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 03:03 Jean Weber  wrote:
>
>> While we are waiting for Drew and Dan to complete their reviews on BG6.2,
>> I
>> suggest we start updating the completed chapters for v6.4. I think you
>> said
>> there were not many changes.
>>
>> Jean
>>
>> On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 21:54 Pulkit Krishna 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello Everybody,
>> > Base Guide Appendix B has been published. Its second review was done by
>> > Randolph Gamo. Now only 2 chapters are left- Macros(which is taken for
>> its
>> > first review by Drew. I think Jean can take it for its second review to
>> > make sure the formatting are correct) and DB connections(which is taken
>> for
>> > its second review by Dan). Both Dand and Drew are taking much time but
>> as
>> > Oliver said in meeting, we cannot pose deadline on volunteers.
>> > Pulkit Krishna
>> >
>> >
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Jean,
I will start the work on libreoffice base guide 6.4 tommorow.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 03:03 Jean Weber  wrote:

> While we are waiting for Drew and Dan to complete their reviews on BG6.2, I
> suggest we start updating the completed chapters for v6.4. I think you said
> there were not many changes.
>
> Jean
>
> On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 21:54 Pulkit Krishna 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello Everybody,
> > Base Guide Appendix B has been published. Its second review was done by
> > Randolph Gamo. Now only 2 chapters are left- Macros(which is taken for
> its
> > first review by Drew. I think Jean can take it for its second review to
> > make sure the formatting are correct) and DB connections(which is taken
> for
> > its second review by Dan). Both Dand and Drew are taking much time but as
> > Oliver said in meeting, we cannot pose deadline on volunteers.
> > Pulkit Krishna
> >
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Jean Weber]

While we are waiting for Drew and Dan to complete their reviews on BG6.2, I
suggest we start updating the completed chapters for v6.4. I think you said
there were not many changes.

Jean

On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 21:54 Pulkit Krishna 
wrote:

> Hello Everybody,
> Base Guide Appendix B has been published. Its second review was done by
> Randolph Gamo. Now only 2 chapters are left- Macros(which is taken for its
> first review by Drew. I think Jean can take it for its second review to
> make sure the formatting are correct) and DB connections(which is taken for
> its second review by Dan). Both Dand and Drew are taking much time but as
> Oliver said in meeting, we cannot pose deadline on volunteers.
> Pulkit Krishna
>
>

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[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Everybody,
Base Guide Appendix B has been published. Its second review was done by
Randolph Gamo. Now only 2 chapters are left- Macros(which is taken for its
first review by Drew. I think Jean can take it for its second review to
make sure the formatting are correct) and DB connections(which is taken for
its second review by Dan). Both Dand and Drew are taking much time but as
Oliver said in meeting, we cannot pose deadline on volunteers.
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[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide and LibreOffice Tutorials

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Everybody,

Base Guide:-

Randolph has done the second review of the appendix A of Base Guide. I have
placed it in the published folder. 3 chapters are now left fo 1 each
review. Drew has taken macros. Dan has taken DB Connections and Randolph
has taken Appendix B. This means that the base guide is to be published
soon enough. After that I will start to work on Base Guide 6.4.


@randolph gamoI have added your name to the
contributors list in appendix A. You could have done that yourself too.


LibreOffice Tutorial:-
The first 4 chapters(including preface) of the LibreOffice Tutorials have
been published. I have written them and Bernard has reviewed them. I am
working on chapter 4. There were only 10 chapters in the original Essential
Tutorial by Bernard Poole, but I, with help of Bernard am planning to
include a 11th chapter that will be based on Math. Bernard is writing it
and I will give it the formatting of a typical libreoffice guide.
Pulkit Krishna

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Pulkit Krishna]

Will do, thanks!
Pulkit Krishna


On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 10:38 PM Drew Jensen 
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> Don't grab it for review till tomorrow April 8th, after that I'm done
> either way.
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 12:42 AM Pulkit Krishna 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Robert,
>> I have written to Drew once more. If he replies that's the best. If he
>> doesn't reply then can you take the macros chapter for a review. I think
>> the Access2Base has to wait.
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Drew Jensen]

Don't grab it for review till tomorrow April 8th, after that I'm done
either way.

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> I have written to Drew once more. If he replies that's the best. If he
> doesn't reply then can you take the macros chapter for a review. I think
> the Access2Base has to wait.
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[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Robert,
I have written to Drew once more. If he replies that's the best. If he
doesn't reply then can you take the macros chapter for a review. I think
the Access2Base has to wait.
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[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Drew and Dan,
Are you done with your respective reviews?
Pulkit Krishna

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